ZH VETS Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 he just turned 23 last week Arrived in Belgium 2013 ,,,,, Not a bad player ------ only the attitude.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Unlikely that Watt will pass any test with his waste of space attitude. Needs a man manager to turn him around and stop the downward spiral. I don't think that's the case. I don't think he could be 'man managed' into becoming a good player. I simply don't think there's the interest or desire within him to put in the work required to achieve that. Some people seem to think that any player who underachieves in relation to their basic level of skill, due to lack of application, would have done much better if they'd just had the right manager at the right time, but the fact is that some people simply don't have the necessary desire, the interest, the enthusiasm, the hunger, or whatever, to even want to put in the work required to be anything like as successful as their natural talent would allow. I'd guess that Tony Watt has probably already made at least 3 or 4 million quid after tax from football. If so, he could afford a much better lifestyle than the vast majority of people even if he never works again. Lots of people in that position would simply have no interest in putting any effort in, regardless of what sort of management they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted January 3, 2017 Author Share Posted January 3, 2017 That goal against barca probably worst thing that could have happened to him. Or could have been the best, real shame all that skill , still very young, maybe some hope left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Draws opponents in to him with his close control freeing up team mates for a pass then with great consistency fails to even attempt to pass. Pity. He had an opportunity at Hearts to relaunch himself and made no effort to do so. Wonder what age he will get to before he realises a chunk of his career has been wasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Funny how no-one is questioning his attitude now he's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Funny how no-one is questioning his attitude now he's gone. Apart from nearly every post above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Funny how no-one is questioning his attitude now he's gone. Eh ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo dans les Pyrenees Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Just ******* wow, needed pasting on the thread Karl Robinson has confirmed that Tony Watt is set to return to Charlton. The Manager was asked about the striker, who has been out on loan at Hearts, following Saturday?s 1-1 draw against Southend United at Roots Hall. And he says that Watt will be back at the club in the next couple of days for testing. ?What is going to happen with Tony Watt is that he is going to come in and I?m going to run the legs off of him,? said Robinson. ?I?m going to make him sweat, make him cry and I want to see whether he has got the desire to play for me and this club. ?That is the top and bottom of it. There have been a lot of questions about Tony, his mentality and desire, but no-one in this football world has ever questioned his talent. ?Tony has to come back an apologise for certain things and then endear himself to the fans and to me and to the club. If you want to play football, come to a club with great young players, great fans and a great desire to improve and be better. ?I want him to prove that he can be one of the best players in this league. He?s got to come back for testing and, within that, we?ll see if he has got the application to be here.? Wonder if Tony let him know he wouldn't be turning up for training today as it is a holiday in Scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavK1012 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Funny how no-one is questioning his attitude now he's gone. Chrimbo is over, stay off the liquor!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CollyWolly Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 "Testing" might be interesting after two weeks on the raz wi Sam and his pals.......allegedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glastonbury jambo Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Watt ...yer pish ..get over it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Apart from nearly every post above Yet there were some who claimed I was a liar around the very same subject. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 "Testing" might be interesting after two weeks on the raz wi Sam and his pals.......allegedly. You mean Nicholson? Where you hear that from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upgotheheads Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Maybe he's just not that good. There's more to football than keepy-uppy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 PD slavers piddle Its his post that has suggested indiscipline but with no back up at all.. well bar his source he mentions Saddens me that a so called Hearts fan can post such negativity with no back up Internet forum at its worst Though when you ??? such guff its suggested you are TW pal, could not make it up If we've got a player with disciplinary issues then he'll be dealt with accordingly. If we've got a loanee who repeatedly has disciplinary issues then I'm 99% certain he'd be sent packing. Not saying PD is lying but I'd be shocked if the club allowed this considering how ruthless they've been with others. This. We're not that daft funny that it's even being discussed without any substance TWatt is hopeless and should be punted. Phil Dunfy is talking shit also. If Watts discipline and attitude was so bad I'm pretty sure he would be either sent back to his club, banished to training alone or with the youth team. Our DOF doesn't take any shit. Few utterly daft looking *******s on the early pages of this thread. Rudolfs Mate gets away without looking too bad, he doesn't call me a liar. Enjoy lads, seems like I was right all along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo dans les Pyrenees Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 I'm not looking forward to going back to work tomorrow, but then again at least I'm not Tony Watt being beasted by a nutter in South London. Karma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 I said at Pittodrie Watt was the only person he cared about. Caley made me believe he could change but that was it alas. He will disappear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Sifter Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Few utterly daft looking *******s on the early pages of this thread. Rudolfs Mate gets away without looking too bad, he doesn't call me a liar. Enjoy lads, seems like I was right all along. Just catching up on the thread. So was there proof of this bad attitude after all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Just catching up on the thread. So was there proof of this bad attitude after all? The fact he's been sent packing is proof enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo1961 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 The fact he's been sent packing is proof enough. Is It ?? It didnt work out and he's away back to CAFC Wheres your proof of his indiscipline , dont see any Now that TW has gone you can reveal your source and information Assuming either ever existed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewboy Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Is It ?? It didnt work out and he's away back to CAFC Wheres your proof of his indiscipline , dont see any Now that TW has gone you can reveal your source and information Assuming either ever existed You obviously haven't seen the comments from Karl Robinson then! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewboy Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Is It ?? It didnt work out and he's away back to CAFC Wheres your proof of his indiscipline , dont see any Now that TW has gone you can reveal your source and information Assuming either ever existed Screams "attitude problem"http://mobile.cafc.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/charlton-athletic-football-club-karl-robinson-tony-watt-3493974.aspx Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo1961 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 I'm in no doubt TW has been a pest at previous clubs its well documented Just wondering what problems he has caused at Hearts if any Just been a shit signing sadly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Is It ?? It didnt work out and he's away back to CAFC Wheres your proof of his indiscipline , dont see any Now that TW has gone you can reveal your source and information Assuming either ever existed Why's he been sent packing then? Why has Ian Cathro decided that it's not worth keeping him around if it's anything other than indiscipline? You've been well and truly shown up on this thread. I suggest you come to terms with that mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo1961 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Your deluded Never as much as a Fact in your posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Why's he been sent packing then? Why has Ian Cathro decided that it's not worth keeping him around if it's anything other than indiscipline? You've been well and truly shown up on this thread. I suggest you come to terms with that mate. I'm not doubting that Watt may have been causing problems and/or displaying issues with his attitude...but it is entirely possible that Cathro simply doesn't rate him, and has taken an easy opportunity to get an ineffective, unwanted player off the wage bill. Him leaving doesn't prove he has behaved badly, just as him having behaved badly previously at Charlton doesn't mean he has behaved badly at Hearts. Of course, it's entirely possible that he has - and history would suggest a pattern has already been established. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Few utterly daft looking *******s on the early pages of this thread. Rudolfs Mate gets away without looking too bad, he doesn't call me a liar. Enjoy lads, seems like I was right all along. Without looking too bad. All I said was I'd be shocked if the club let him get away with that. Rather than let people interpret it the wrong way I added the part about saying I wasn't calling you a liar. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just joe Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Think we all " hoped "he would have been a good striker He's gone now No point discussing it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Your deluded Never as much as a Fact in your posts So, tell me then, why has he been told to **** off? And why has the Charlton manager released his statement about his attitude too? In fact, don't answer. I'm not interested in the nonsensical ramblings of someone who probably found the internet by accident. I'm not doubting that Watt may have been causing problems and/or displaying issues with his attitude...but it is entirely possible that Cathro simply doesn't rate him, and has taken an easy opportunity to get an ineffective, unwanted player off the wage bill. Him leaving doesn't prove he has behaved badly, just as him having behaved badly previously at Charlton doesn't mean he has behaved badly at Hearts. Of course, it's entirely possible that he has - and history would suggest a pattern has already been established. It seems a little odd that he's not really given him a chance to impress, choosing to just send him back at the first opportunity. It seems to fit that he's had previous issues at previous clubs, people in the know have said he's been in trouble at the club over discipline and now he's been sent back to a seemingly angry Charlton Athletic who have gone public about him needing to apologise. Now, if he's been a model professional, what does he have to apologise for? Without looking too bad. All I said was I'd be shocked if the club let him get away with that. Rather than let people interpret it the wrong way I added the part about saying I wasn't calling you a liar. Lol There's nothing wrong with questioning something, it's the absolute histrionics from certain, less coherent, posters that was particularly amusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 There's nothing wrong with questioning something, it's the absolute histrionics from certain, less coherent, posters that was particularly amusing. Not disputing that tbh and some of the remarks might have made me also want to respond in the way you have. Regardless, in response to my comment. If everyone responded including every post in such a way then the board would be totally inundated with GIRFUY posts [emoji85] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 It seems a little odd that he's not really given him a chance to impress, choosing to just send him back at the first opportunity. It seems to fit that he's had previous issues at previous clubs, people in the know have said he's been in trouble at the club over discipline and now he's been sent back to a seemingly angry Charlton Athletic who have gone public about him needing to apologise. Now, if he's been a model professional, what does he have to apologise for? . He clearly wasn't a model professional, given Robinson's interview comments, but I interpreted that as needing to apologise for previous behaviour at Charlton. Perhaps he did mean he needed to go back to Charlton and apologise to certain people for things he did at Hearts (seems a bit odd). Cathro may well have seen enough in training, some game time and previous knowledge of the player to decide he wasn't worth keeping on whatever financial arrangement we had for him. Of course he may have been in trouble at Hearts; I'm certainly not doubting that. But I don't think that is the only possible reason he is no longer with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo1961 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 So, tell me then, why has he been told to **** off? And why has the Charlton manager released his statement about his attitude too? In fact, don't answer. I'm not interested in the nonsensical ramblings of someone who probably found the internet by accident. We dont jnow the real reasons Tony left Maybe it just didnt pan out and it suited both parties to move on.. shit happens We knew he has been a clown at previous clubs it was a risk signing but that doesnt necessarily mean he was up to no good at Hearts Your one of those internet rockets with no source or inside information basically a screaming fantasist who makes stuff up about players at Hearts to look as if he's in the know and when asked to give more detail dodges the issue Your also rhino skinned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 So, tell me then, why has he been told to **** off? And why has the Charlton manager released his statement about his attitude too? In fact, don't answer. I'm not interested in the nonsensical ramblings of someone who probably found the internet by accident. We dont jnow the real reasons Tony left Maybe it just didnt pan out and it suited both parties to move on.. shit happens We knew he has been a clown at previous clubs it was a risk signing but that doesnt necessarily mean he was up to no good at Hearts Your one of those internet rockets with no source or inside information basically a screaming fantasist who makes stuff up about players at Hearts to look as if he's in the know and when asked to give more detail dodges the issue Your also rhino skinned Not naming my source isn't ducking any issue. It just means I don't respect you enough to tell you who he is. And I also respect his right to privacy by not throwing his name around like confetti. I don't have anything to prove to someone who thinks it's ok to throw personal abuse at someone because he doesn't like the things he's reading. I'd have thought that someone who has the year 1961 in his username would be someone in his fifties, rather than the petulant schoolchild you're behaving like right now. And 'rhino skinned' doesn't even make sense. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo1961 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Aye what ever Away and play with your source you complete spanner You L I A R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo1961 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Not naming my source isn't ducking any issue. It just means I don't respect you enough to tell you who he is. And I also respect his right to privacy by not throwing his name around like confetti. I don't have anything to prove to someone who thinks it's ok to throw personal abuse at someone because he doesn't like the things he's reading. I'd have thought that someone who has the year 1961 in his username would be someone in his fifties, rather than the petulant schoolchild you're behaving like right now. And 'rhino skinned' doesn't even make sense. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Your a contradiction in terms and that has no source Even in the unlikely event you did have a source I wouldnt expect you to name him, but now that TW away you could give us a few snippets of privileged information you have at hand, in why he was told to **** off Until then why wouldnt i see you as a bare faced sad pathetic liar Put up or shut up I say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Comedian Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Aye what ever Away and play with your source you complete spanner You L I A R He's not the only one to hear about Watt and his attitude issues while at the club. Even with a new manager his loan has still been cut short and he hasn't really featured, paints its own picture IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo1961 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Maybe the case and who would be shocked But that poster stated in a matter of fact way about TW and when asked to elaborate on it went all weird and smug TW has gone it would be easy to spill the beans or some But nothing,,, why would I have time for posters who come out with shite as if it was verbatim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 He's not the only one to hear about Watt and his attitude issues while at the club. Even with a new manager his loan has still been cut short and he hasn't really featured, paints its own picture IMO. I wouldn't bother mate, you're probably just a liar too. Maybe the case and who would be shocked But that poster stated in a matter of fact way about TW and when asked to elaborate on it went all weird and smug TW has gone it would be easy to spill the beans or some But nothing,,, why would I have time for posters who come out with shite as if it was verbatim You're in your fifties FFS, behave like an adult It's ok to admit you were wrong about Tony Watt and the information I had, go ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo1961 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 I wouldn't bother mate, you're probably just a liar too. You're in your fifties FFS, behave like an adult It's ok to admit you were wrong about Tony Watt and the information I had, go ahead. What did TW do so wrong at Hearts go on tell us Tell the truth and shame the devil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 What did TW do so wrong at Hearts go on tell us Tell the truth and shame the devil According to my source, he would often be late for training and club events leading to a ?40 fine for each incident. After every game he would fly straight out to Spain to see his girlfriend for the rest of the weekend and sometimes would rock up to training late on the Monday. I heard that he turned up late to the pre-Christmas calendar signing as well as training that very day. Perhaps someone who was at the event can confirm whether or not he arrived after everyone else. Other things would range from setting off fire alarms by using the fire exits at Riccarton and turning up late for the bus to away games. According to the guy I know, he had a total lack of respect towards the management team and their authority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 According to my source, he would often be late for training and club events leading to a ?40 fine for each incident. After every game he would fly straight out to Spain to see his girlfriend for the rest of the weekend and sometimes would rock up to training late on the Monday. I heard that he turned up late to the pre-Christmas calendar signing as well as training that very day. Perhaps someone who was at the event can confirm whether or not he arrived after everyone else. Other things would range from setting off fire alarms by using the fire exits at Riccarton and turning up late for the bus to away games. According to the guy I know, he had a total lack of respect towards the management team and their authority. Hearts train virtually every Sunday. He wasn't late for the calendar signing. No one was although he was one of the later arrivals, he wasn't alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Hearts train virtually every Sunday My understanding is that they get a day off after every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 My understanding is that they get a day off after every game. Seen them quite a few Sunday's up at Riccarton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Seen them quite a few Sunday's up at Riccarton. Interesting. Wonder if it was in his contract that he was ok to miss Sunday training to head off to see his girlfriend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic Username Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Thought his missus was living and studying in Italy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Interesting. Wonder if it was in his contract that he was ok to miss Sunday training to head off to see his girlfriend. Who knows mate but they defo train a lot of Sundays. It was brought in as soon as the new regime took over. Not a bad idea when you consider the Hibs George Street culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Thought his missus was living and studying in Italy. Spain, I was told. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Tucker Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Spain, I was told. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk She's Italian, studying back in Italy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo1961 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Dunphy having a mare when opening up with his sources information as predicted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 My understanding is that they get a day off after every game. Monday is the day off There was some interesting chat about this a while back with for example Michael Stewart explaining the benefits. Athletes often feel far worse on the second day and resting then is deemed better. Hearts Sunday morning programme has been John Hill leading session involving weights etc, and some video analysis. Also did some yoga last season. Not every Sunday but most Sundays. Think it has been a 9.30 till 12.00 session. For me Sunday morning also encourages better behaviour on Saturdays. Thought all this was well known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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