sadj Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 Just now, indianajones said: True but seems even more so in the past year or so. Stuck in the past. Ahhh if its getting worse thats enjoyable. I tend to avoid speaking to Aberdeen fans full stop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 Construction costs are up 25% or thereabouts. Nobody is going to be building anything. Expect to be reading this pie in the sky proposal in 5 years time. Thank god we built our new stand when we did. Aberdeen, Dundee etc are Donald ducked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 10 hours ago, Mikey1874 said: If Aberdeen hold out for the out of town site then they lose an ally and a lot of goodwill. Which could hurt them if they ever hit problems in the future. Having the Council on side was certainly helpful a times down the years for Hearts. very true. We have some very good friends in high places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo92 Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 Their current stadium isn't worth much, over surplus of homes in the area, existing houses prices have dropped like a stone. Their generation of glory hunting fans are starting to pass on, I would be seriously worried about the state of the club in 15-20 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelly Terraces Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 Best stadium in the Championship at this rate. Good. **** them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 3 hours ago, Nelly Terraces said: Best stadium in the Championship at this rate. Good. **** them. They’ve escaped relegation a few times due to reconstruction or other clubs failing to meet stadium rules iirc. This could be their time perhaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 47 minutes ago, davemclaren said: They’ve escaped relegation a few times due to reconstruction or other clubs failing to meet stadium rules iirc. This could be their time perhaps. St Johnstone win, and they get beaten by Dundee then the skids are under them. They seem to be a team without bottle or desire these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 3 hours ago, Deevers said: St Johnstone win, and they get beaten by Dundee then the skids are under them. They seem to be a team without bottle or desire these days. They just called him Jim Badloss on the radio 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 5 hours ago, davemclaren said: They’ve escaped relegation a few times due to reconstruction or other clubs failing to meet stadium rules iirc. This could be their time perhaps. Would be sweet and well deserved. They've dodged several bullets and also benefitted from not spending on infrastructure like most clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 On 21/04/2022 at 11:51, NANOJAMBO said: My reading of the Cormack statement is that they are/were going for a state of the art stadium within the budget available to them. So, there should be room for compromise but reducing the spec of the stadium might mean losing out on the additional revenue they thought they'd get (not sure what he means here : hospitality ? concerts ?) There's no way they're building this stadium in the near future : Covid has pushed the price of everything through the roof so expect another couple of years delay IMO. At least. They will need to be very careful with the events to raise additional revenue. Theyve built the p&J which is a 7min drive (4.4miles) up the bypass from Kingsford. You are going to get very few big acts to play a wee stadium in the countryside as opposed to playing at the p&j. Even logistically getting fans there will be hard enough so trying to get event attendees there will cause similar issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boag1874 Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 If they go down… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo_jim2001 Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 I'm sure they can pick up a decent sheep pen on flea bay...75 freaking million, imagine the team that could buy😳 knowing them though would probably buy 11 duds😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 Financial insanity if they start building a stadium just now. As said above, it's a total fantasy but Aberdeen fans are used to that mindset. Jim Cannywin is a brilliant appointment apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poseidon Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Did the Dons stiff HBOS as well as part of one of their previous deby restructures of was that just the vermin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hungry hippo Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 24 minutes ago, Poseidon said: Did the Dons stiff HBOS as well as part of one of their previous deby restructures of was that just the vermin? I don't think Aberdeen did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poseidon Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 4 hours ago, Hungry hippo said: I don't think Aberdeen did. Yeah, maybe not, I seem to remember there being another team who did around same time as Hibs, can't remember who though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Just now, Poseidon said: Yeah, maybe not, I seem to remember there being another team who did around same time as Hibs, can't remember who though Dundee United I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poseidon Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Sooks said: Dundee United I think Yeah, I looked it up and you are right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Just now, Poseidon said: Yeah, I looked it up and you are right. I think there was something with Aberdeen too but i can not remember all the details Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 On 20/04/2022 at 22:37, 1971fozzy said: november 2016 🤣 It’s 2022. Have feeling this thread will be going on come 2026 In the year twenty five twenty five... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poseidon Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, Sooks said: I think there was something with Aberdeen too but i can not remember all the details There was, WM Donald paid off debt to get a share of the club and Milne and someone else converted their debt to equity. Wasn't totally clear if the bank debt was paid in full, fairly sure it wasn't but can't find the exact details Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 On 21/04/2022 at 04:17, Section Q said: Thanks for that. Agree Aberdeen badly needs regeneration. Can also see council's point in wanting the new stadium to be part of the city. The length of time it's taken to get to this stage must also have been a factor in blow out costs. Our new stand was discussed/agreed/planned/built, in a fraction of this time. Shows what can happen when fans/club/council, all work together. I sometimes wonder if the whole out of town thing has primarily been intended to pressure Aberdeen City Council into giving them generous grants, an easy ride with planning, etc, to keep them within the city. It's the sort of thing that happens regularly in US sport, with teams moving (or threatening to, at least) outside the city authority's boundaries, or even to an entirely new city, in exchange for grants and/or tax breaks. It would probably seem a very normal thing to do for someone like Cormack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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1971fozzy Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Just caught up with sportscene. Oh my god that Aberdeen support v Livingston 😱😱 I know they are bottom 6 and have a crap home support anyway but that is brutal. Apathy isn’t the word. That club is in dire straits. They call Jim Goodwin a new name Jim Badloss 🤣🤣 Huge rebuild for him (if they stay up that is). What’s happened @IveSeenTheLight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 9 hours ago, davemclaren said: 🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 On 23/11/2016 at 16:18, IveSeenTheLight said: The majority of the fans are quite optimistic about it. We are concerned about the finance. In reality, if it happens, were looking at 2021 before were there. Any bricks been put down yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 1 hour ago, hughesie27 said: Any bricks been put down yet? Dick Gordon was certainly "putting down" a couple over the weekend, he kens they're in a relegation battle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_HMFC Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 Love seeing clubs like Aberdeen back where they should be. They were getting far too big for their boots, and with the numbers in the stands drastically on the decline the only way is down for them. Proper shitehouse fanbase who only support their team when they're doing half decent, a bit like Hibs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 Just shows the difference with us V Hibs and Aberdeen. We still supported our club during the shite times of relelvarion, admin and when the football wasn’t all the pretty. Reaping the rewards now though. Aberdeen being a one city club should be particularly ashamed of their support. A big, relatively wealthy city at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 1 hour ago, AlimOzturk said: Just shows the difference with us V Hibs and Aberdeen. We still supported our club during the shite times of relelvarion, admin and when the football wasn’t all the pretty. Reaping the rewards now though. Aberdeen being a one city club should be particularly ashamed of their support. A big, relatively wealthy city at that. Not all did. A good fair few on here chucked it. Went right in the creme puff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sac Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 Cormack, Nelms, and Gordon all conspired in their own individual ways to harm us during covid, any bad Karma that pays them a visit is fine by me, reap what you sow. Never forget, only Hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaShango Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 Where's the resident Aberdeen fan that was all over this board when we were doing crap? Not seen or heard from him in months. I hope he's wallowing in misery and that Aberdeen get sucked into a play off spot and go down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 £14 million the training ground cost according to Andrew McKinlay last night. He's visiting today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 3 hours ago, AlimOzturk said: Just shows the difference with us V Hibs and Aberdeen. We still supported our club during the shite times of relelvarion, admin and when the football wasn’t all the pretty. Reaping the rewards now though. Aberdeen being a one city club should be particularly ashamed of their support. A big, relatively wealthy city at that. it’s not a wealthy city now. Far from it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 49 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: £14 million the training ground cost according to Andrew McKinlay last night. He's visiting today. My biggest issue with us moving out of Oriam would be expansion of the green disease from the west setting up an East coast centre there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, Sooks said: My biggest issue with us moving out of Oriam would be expansion of the green disease from the west setting up an East coast centre there We should continue to rent as long as costs are ok. training grounds are not worth the investment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poseidon Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: We should continue to rent as long as costs are ok. training grounds are not worth the investment. McKinley has previously suggested we'd be looking for our own as at certain times of the year the SRU take over and we have no access to full size indoor pitches etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: We should continue to rent as long as costs are ok. training grounds are not worth the investment. I am not convinced either mate but apparently that is what the guys that use it want .................. I really do not want Celtic having some kind of presence at our end of our city either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upgotheheads Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 1 hour ago, PapaShango said: Where's the resident Aberdeen fan that was all over this board when we were doing crap? Not seen or heard from him in months. I hope he's wallowing in misery and that Aberdeen get sucked into a play off spot and go down. A bit harsh on I've Seen The Light imo, he wasn't the gloating type, but he has been quiet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, Sooks said: I am not convinced either mate but apparently that is what the guys that use it want .................. I really do not want Celtic having some kind of presence at our end of our city either I must have missed that this is something Celtic want to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 1 minute ago, jamboinglasgow said: I must have missed that this is something Celtic want to do. Apparently although I read it on here so make of that what you will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 Oriam lease is till 2029. But they are clearly preparing plans for a Hearts owned facility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirwalter Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 1 hour ago, upgotheheads said: A bit harsh on I've Seen The Light imo, he wasn't the gloating type, but he has been quiet. Suppose he has an awful lot to be quiet about... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Sooks said: Apparently although I read it on here so make of that what you will We can’t stop them really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterion Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Sooks said: Apparently although I read it on here so make of that what you will It could be possible is they rent Oriam for 2 or 3 nights a week. Allows them to operate a 2nd Academy structure for player evaluation but I don't think its cost effective to have a full time base in the capital. Celtic are in the process of having Barrowfield torn apart and completely redeveloped for their youth Academy. This would make Lennoxtown their mens team, women's team and u21 (reserve) home whilst all other football operations are carried out in the community around Barrowfield. This makes a lot of sense and is good from a marketing perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterion Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Poseidon said: at certain times of the year the SRU take over and we have no access to full size indoor pitches etc. I don't fully understand this idea for a couple of reasons: What are we doing in the indoor arena that can't be done on the external pitches (either grass or the synthetic surface) ? The academy & infrastructure existed without the Oriam part for years, I don't understand how scheduling around a handful of rugby games causes issues ? If the indoor arena pitch is required then it seems unreasonable not to find a way to schedule around things. Not doubting your comment, just find it bizarre if true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterion Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Poseidon said: McKinley has previously suggested we'd be looking for our own 2nd post on this - paying out millions for a training centre due to a conflict on facilities use a few times a year doesn't really make sense. Arguable there's a solution to be found where Hearts may have to move scheduling around or pay costs for the SRU if equipment needs to be moved in/out of the indoor arena between sessions. It seems a bit mad to be actively pursuing a move away (unless it's a negotiating point). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
droid Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 21 minutes ago, Mysterion said: 2nd post on this - paying out millions for a training centre due to a conflict on facilities use a few times a year doesn't really make sense. Arguable there's a solution to be found where Hearts may have to move scheduling around or pay costs for the SRU if equipment needs to be moved in/out of the indoor arena between sessions. It seems a bit mad to be actively pursuing a move away (unless it's a negotiating point). Can’t help but think with the FOH it’s a bit of vanity project so to speak. There’s always the next project/idea that they can spend money on. Keeps them busy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 (edited) 42 minutes ago, droid said: Can’t help but think with the FOH it’s a bit of vanity project so to speak. There’s always the next project/idea that they can spend money on. Keeps them busy. It's an investment. The training facility is a stadium, community facilities and other income generation. Same as that other 'vanity project' on McLeod Street. Edited April 26, 2022 by Mikey1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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