New Stand: Ongoing work (updated)

[PeterintheRain]

This says it all.

 

  It says you've not been paying attention.   If it looks like the original pictures and becomes the stadium we were promised then fine.   Right now it looks like we're going to have something out of an industrial estate.  Which is not fine.   Unless you are happy at being lied to?

[kingantti1874]

It says you've not been paying attention. If it looks like the original pictures and becomes the stadium we were promised then fine. Right now it looks like we're going to have something out of an industrial estate. Which is not fine. Unless you are happy at being lied to?

Oh for **** sake.. lied to.

[bn jambo]

It says you've not been paying attention. If it looks like the original pictures and becomes the stadium we were promised then fine. Right now it looks like we're going to have something out of an industrial estate. Which is not fine. Unless you are happy at being lied to?

'We wur lyd tae ! ' FFS

Where has anyone lied? Pretty sure we were promised a ten million pound new stand with great corporate facilities that is what we are getting, lied to get a grip!

 

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[bn jambo]

Back on topic , MOAR PHOTIES PLEASE

[Rudolf's Mate]

It says you've not been paying attention. If it looks like the original pictures and becomes the stadium we were promised then fine. Right now it looks like we're going to have something out of an industrial estate. Which is not fine. Unless you are happy at being lied to?

 

[Jamboelite]

Interesting comments, however the glass is not curved and will not therefore have 'focal heat' due to a lens effect.

 

Whilst the support steelwork is curved, the curtainwall facets round the curve in straight segments - the overall 'curve' is pretty shallow, so once complete it will pretty much look like it is curved. Please also bear in mind that curved glass units are extremely expensive and would have near enough doubled the budget.

 

With regards to Ibrox and Villa Park brick facades they are magnificent, if from a by gone age. On modern buildings there is a desire to let as much daylight as possible into the interior, and the new stand facility at Tynecastle follows this theme.

Could you not have reduced your profit margin and put in the more expensive stuff :-)

[Jamboelite]

It says you've not been paying attention. If it looks like the original pictures and becomes the stadium we were promised then fine. Right now it looks like we're going to have something out of an industrial estate. Which is not fine. Unless you are happy at being lied to?

So much hatred hard to imagine you being a Hearts fan................................

[Notts1874]

  It says you've not been paying attention.   If it looks like the original pictures and becomes the stadium we were promised then fine.   Right now it looks like we're going to have something out of an industrial estate.  Which is not fine.   Unless you are happy at being lied to?

You don't half talk some shite pal!!!!!!

[Taffin]

With respect you have no idea if it will look "sublime" or not until it's finished!

 

If it looks like the most recent artists impressions then it certainly won't look "sublime" but given the rate they seem to change you are correct, we don't know how it will look.

 

I wouldn't hold my breath though given that the impressions have got progressively less breathtaking.

 

It will be a fantastic stand and one we can all be very very proud of. FA has his opinion and you have yours. I happen to fall somewhere between the two. It will definitely be better than 'run of the mill' by a considerable margin, but it will be less aesthetic than we were first led to believe. That isn't a criticism of the club, the only thing they can be criticised for is potentially raising expectations with impressions that were better than the finished article.

[Watt-Zeefuik]

Interesting comments, however the glass is not curved and will not therefore have 'focal heat' due to a lens effect.

 

Whilst the support steelwork is curved, the curtainwall facets round the curve in straight segments - the overall 'curve' is pretty shallow, so once complete it will pretty much look like it is curved.  Please also bear in mind that curved glass units are extremely expensive and would have near enough doubled the budget.

 

With regards to Ibrox and Villa Park brick facades they are magnificent, if from a by gone age.  On modern buildings there is a desire to let as much daylight as possible into the interior, and the new stand facility at Tynecastle follows this theme.

 

Thanks for the clarification.  For what it's worth I don't think the University of Virginia building I showed above uses curved glass either, so I think a limited "focal heat" effect is still possible, but as you say the curve is so mild on the new stand as to make this unlikely to be a problem.

 

I realize the glass curtain walls are for daylight -- it's just an effect I'm tired of.  I think solar tubes work better for bringing in daylight and allow for different exterior treatments, but that's a view which has been slow to catch on and solar tubes bring their own architectural challenges.

 

I think we are nearing a transition in architecture after which the glass curtain wall will be archaic in its own right. That said, it is certainly dominant now and as buildings go I think our new stand will be a lovely exemplar.  I suppose I'm just defending (to a degree) the sentiment that others have expressed here of being tired of glass facades.

[kila]

I think once the windows and the shaded outside walls at either end are in it'll look great.

 

Right now it's like looking at a skeleton of a beautiful woman and saying she's ugly...

[Watt-Zeefuik]

But attracts 80k crowds every Bayern home game

 

With free and easy transport to and from the city all included in your ?320 season ticket

 

I loved it and was bouncing all game and had a better atmosphere than Tynie these days

 

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I would absolutely hate it if we tried to build that monstrosity in Edinburgh (or anywhere, really -- it's awful looking). 

 

If we want a 60k+ stadium we don't need to build a new one.  There's one already about a 10 minute walk from Tynecastle that is far less woeful architecturally.

[All roads lead to Gorgie]

I suppose you hate this then?

 

 

 

That is horrible; looks like an upturned dinghy or paddling pool.

[Thomaso]

It says you've not been paying attention. If it looks like the original pictures and becomes the stadium we were promised then fine. Right now it looks like we're going to have something out of an industrial estate. Which is not fine. Unless you are happy at being lied to?

 

Are you still harping on about being lied to?????

 

You're coming across like a right plumb Pete!!

[Thomaso]

Could you not have reduced your profit margin and put in the more expensive stuff :-)

Profit margin did you say!!!!!!!!

[Unknown user]

If it looks like the most recent artists impressions then it certainly won't look "sublime" but given the rate they seem to change you are correct, we don't know how it will look.

 

I wouldn't hold my breath though given that the impressions have got progressively less breathtaking.

 

It will be a fantastic stand and one we can all be very very proud of. FA has his opinion and you have yours. I happen to fall somewhere between the two. It will definitely be better than 'run of the mill' by a considerable margin, but it will be less aesthetic than we were first led to believe. That isn't a criticism of the club, the only thing they can be criticised for is potentially raising expectations with impressions that were better than the finished article.

Precisely, I agree all the way, the very basics of customer service is to under promise and over deliver, it guarantees happy customers.

 

Peter though, I do not agree with that guy at all. There's been no lying, there's zero reason to really slag the club, and his mask's well and truly slipped if you ask me.

[Heartsofgold]

Jesus H Christ!!!  Can we not keep one thread on topic!!  If you have issues with the potential outcome of the new stand they start a separate moaning pussed thread for your thoughts so that they can be debated off this one.  

[Thomaso]

I think once the windows and the shaded outside walls at either end are in it'll look great.

 

Right now it's like looking at a skeleton of a beautiful woman and saying she's ugly...

Good analogy.

[Thomaso]

Thanks for the clarification. For what it's worth I don't think the University of Virginia building I showed above uses curved glass either, so I think a limited "focal heat" effect is still possible, but as you say the curve is so mild on the new stand as to make this unlikely to be a problem.

 

I realize the glass curtain walls are for daylight -- it's just an effect I'm tired of. I think solar tubes work better for bringing in daylight and allow for different exterior treatments, but that's a view which has been slow to catch on and solar tubes bring their own architectural challenges.

 

I think we are nearing a transition in architecture after which the glass curtain wall will be archaic in its own right. That said, it is certainly dominant now and as buildings go I think our new stand will be a lovely exemplar. I suppose I'm just defending (to a degree) the sentiment that others have expressed here of being tired of glass facades.

 

All solar gain calcs have been undertaken.

 

There will always be a desire to let maximum light into a building and have views out from it - as such glazed curtainwall are here to stay for the foreseeable future.

[Unknown user]

Jesus H Christ!!! Can we not keep one thread on topic!! If you have issues with the potential outcome of the new stand they start a separate moaning pussed thread for your thoughts so that they can be debated off this one.

The thread is on topic, this is exactly the place to talk about how you feel about the stand (or is that only when everyone's agreeing?)

Honestly, people need to learn how to deal with other's views a bit better. Either that or reach for the block button and stop being so moaning pussed about it.

[Thomaso]

If it looks like the most recent artists impressions then it certainly won't look "sublime" but given the rate they seem to change you are correct, we don't know how it will look.

 

I wouldn't hold my breath though given that the impressions have got progressively less breathtaking.

 

It will be a fantastic stand and one we can all be very very proud of. FA has his opinion and you have yours. I happen to fall somewhere between the two. It will definitely be better than 'run of the mill' by a considerable margin, but it will be less aesthetic than we were first led to believe. That isn't a criticism of the club, the only thing they can be criticised for is potentially raising expectations with impressions that were better than the finished article.

 

Tend to agree with your comments however to be fair to the Club the plan to build had to be rushed through, and when the computer generated artists impressions were released, I think it was on the basis that the design had not been finalised and it was a bit of "this is what it could look like".

[Tazio]

There are a lot of good posts getting buried by the bunfights.

[Roxy Hearts]

 

 

I shouldn't I know ... but so far it looks to be shaping up to look like a run of the mill office block of circa 1970, with the sort of curtain wall structure (albeit with a curve!) they began throwing up in New York and elsewhere 80 years ago. Maybe it will be better when the glass and other coloured bits in the artists impression are in place.

 

But it will perform its function well I am sure, which is the main thing.

Thought that was Bryan Ferry lol.

[Deid Heid]

There are a lot of good posts getting buried by the bunfights.

[John Findlay]

Bayern's ground reminds me of one of those polo mints.

Reminds me of a white tread Goodyear tyre.

[Cade]

Kickback's elite arsehole squad on top form

[Jamboelite]

Kickback's elite arsehole squad on top form

I never said a word....

[heartsfc_fan]

Jesus. People are fickle.

 

We have ?12Million budget to build a stand that replaces our existing crumbling structure. Gives us a greater capacity in the restricted area. Gives us greater hospitality revenue. Before those more important things are considered the look of the thing is not a top priority. It will be better than anything outside Glasgow. It will be be different and it will be a hell of a lot better than what we had. Wait till the thing is built before making judgement!

[jimmy the jambo]

Jesus. People are fickle.

 

We have ?12Million budget to build a stand that replaces our existing crumbling structure. Gives us a greater capacity in the restricted area. Gives us greater hospitality revenue. Before those more important things are considered the look of the thing is not a top priority. It will be better than anything outside Glasgow. It will be be different and it will be a hell of a lot better than what we had. Wait till the thing is built before making judgement!

 

 

Amen to that,well said.

[communist]

Still excited here, despite the knee deep crap I have to wade through to get to the stadium porn pics.

 

Thanks to all the picture people.

[King Of The Cat Cafe]

Jesus. People are fickle.

We have ?12Million budget to build a stand that replaces our existing crumbling structure. Gives us a greater capacity in the restricted area. Gives us greater hospitality revenue. Before those more important things are considered the look of the thing is not a top priority. It will be better than anything outside Glasgow. It will be be different and it will be a hell of a lot better than what we had. Wait till the thing is built before making judgement!

After almost 19,000 posts, have you not yet cottoned on to the fact that sensible comments like this cut no ice with JKB ars@0les? Edited May 26, 2017 by King Of The Cat Cafe

[jambo in iraq]

tell you what... if its a glass front and they use maroon spotlights to light it up on match nights with the Hearts badge all lit up it will look fantastic. As for all the moaning doubters, there are maybe 250 clubs in Europe with better stadiums than ours. If you don't like what we have, they why not pick one and go there every week!

[Bull's-eye]

Any mention of solar panels and wind turbines engraciated into the visual external facade ?

[HeartsInMyBlood]

Great pics : really appreciate everyone that's posting as the main stand undergoes its transformation - really looking forward to watching the progress over the summer

[heartsfc_fan]

After almost 19,000 posts, have you not yet cottoned on to the fact that sensible comments like this cut no ice with JKB ars@0les?

I can lead a horse to water

[Boof]

Thanks for the pics, chaps. Disappointed I never got to see the old one for a last look but I can't wait for this one.

[kingantti1874]

Old Trafford doesn't look bad to me.. much bigger obv,convex rather than concave and a tint. Think our wee version will look great.. certainly better than anything else in Scotland

 

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[kingantti1874]

A maroon tint on the glass would be class..

 

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[dc-jambo]

Thank god for the people who keep posting their marvellous pics on here, keeping us up to date and ignoring all the crap ...

 

Just want to thank everybody who has taken pictures and put them up on here, it has been a fantastic service to your fellow Hearts supporters and i thank each and every one of you. Would buy you all a drink if I had the opportunity

[jamboinglasgow]

Old Trafford doesn't look bad to me.. much bigger obv,convex rather than concave and a tint. Think our wee version will look great.. certainly better than anything else in Scotland

 

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Just looking that glass at old Trafford, it does suggest that it is how it will look. Will look good.

[Gorgie_Rules]

Its going to look the bollocks with the glass frontage. If it were Aberdeen, Hibs, Dundee etc doing this i'd be jealous as feck of the plans and the pictures on this thread of it taking shape

 

Easily the best stadium in Scotland for its size, can't be many across the UK that will be as unique as Tynecastle

[Shanks said no]

I hope this glass wall looks good but to be perfectly honest I won't give a folk once I am in the ground. If you asked me what the Wheatfield /Roseburn looked, or indeed the Shed, from the outside then I would struggle.

 

The only wee moan I might have is if we fit a bleeding escalator instead of maroon tinted glass.

[Jambo, Goodbye]

Bayern's ground reminds me of one of those polo mints.

It looks a bit like the result of Kris Boyd accidentally sitting on a golf ball

[communist]

I hope this glass wall looks good but to be perfectly honest I won't give a folk once I am in the ground. If you asked me what the Wheatfield /Roseburn looked, or indeed the Shed, from the outside then I would struggle.

 

The only wee moan I might have is if we fit a bleeding escalator instead of maroon tinted glass.

Tints can be added afterward. much cheaper than coloured glass.

 

There are a couple of companies locally that specialise in window film for commercial properties.

[Drewboy]

Just looking that glass at old Trafford, it does suggest that it is how it will look. Will look good.

I demand to see the original artists impressions, I heard they looked much better and the ManU have lied to us about how it now looks!

 

 

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[Another Robbo]

Don't really care what the outside looks like it's the inside and the PILLAR FREE VIEW of the pitch that matters!

[on&up2017]

Great photo - although the camara lens makes the curve look convex rather than concave

Very true, noticed & should have commented on that. A nice curve none the less!!

[on&up2017]

A maroon tint on the glass would be class..

 

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Is there not a chance we could be putting in place a one way glass?  This would provide a nicer, smoother finish - masking the now additional horizontal/vertical beams from the original design.  I am no expert in structural design/implementation, it may well be an expensive alternative and not within budget.

[hughesie27]

Is there not a chance we could be putting in place a one way glass?  This would provide a nicer, smoother finish - masking the now additional horizontal/vertical beams from the original design.  I am no expert in structural design/implementation, it may well be an expensive alternative and not within budget.

There are no new beams. those are temporary rails for workies.

[sam?]

Any word on the big TV screens ??

 

 

Hope they don't get binned as that would be great to have,

 

 

Apologies if covered already.