Maroon Sailor Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 I thought so! True story; I had a springer spaniel a few years ago, the dirtiest sod in the kennel I've ever had, I would walk the dogs in the morning, put them back in the kennels, within minutes he'd have shit, he was totally hyper and would run up and down up and then jump up and down up down, the shit would be all over the kennel walls!!! Bobby Sands was what my mates called him! Surprised Corbyn wasn't there to wipe Sand's arse for him, after all he must have been a great family man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 I thought so! True story; I had a springer spaniel a few years ago, the dirtiest sod in the kennel I've ever had, I would walk the dogs in the morning, put them back in the kennels, within minutes he'd have shit, he was totally hyper and would run up and down up and then jump up and down up down, the shit would be all over the kennel walls!!! Bobby Sands was what my mates called him! Haha..... But could he go a? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Surprised Corbyn wasn't there to wipe Sand's arse for him, after all he must have been a great family mancorbyn would have been there with his tongue ready Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Haha..... But could he go a? Naw!!! Ftch x Ftch and couldn't find a rabbit in a telephone box and as much style as me, drunk and dancing!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Surprised Corbyn wasn't there to wipe Sand's arse for him, after all he must have been a great family man It's 2017, 2018 in the next 6 months now. Hopefully you older ultra "Scottish" Yoon generations die out and give the youngsters coming through a chance to reconcile. Like most of them are doing over there these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 It's 2017, 2018 in the next 6 months now. Hopefully you older ultra "Scottish" Yoon generations die out and give the youngsters coming through a chance to reconcile. Like most of them are doing over there these days. How long ago was it that you died oot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 How long ago was it that you died oot? Died oot? What is wrong with smaller accountable government that meets the needs of the population? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Died oot? What is wrong with smaller accountable government that meets the needs of the population? It was in response to the older yoon Scottish ultras. Weren't you one some years back? [emoji3] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 It's 2017, 2018 in the next 6 months now. Hopefully you older ultra "Scottish" Yoon generations die out and give the youngsters coming through a chance to reconcile. Like most of them are doing over there these days. Reconcile what.. the SNP caused the divide in this country... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Surprised Corbyn wasn't there to wipe Sand's arse for him, after all he must have been a great family man What's going on here? http://www.croydonguardian.co.uk/news/4045346.IRA_councillor_welcomed_back_to_Tory_bosom/?ref=fbshr Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Refusing to condemn the IRA just now on Sky News, was asked by Sophy Ridge several times if he condemned the actions of the IRA and kept trying to dodge the question, would only say that he's against any form of violence by any side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo Jim Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Is condemning all violence not condemning violence by the IRA. Why not ask him to specifically condem Nelson Mandela. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Is condemning all violence not condemning violence by the IRA. Why not ask him to specifically condem Nelson Mandela.Probably because Corbyn invited known IRA men to his offices in the Commons and shared Troops Out platforms with Adams and co. Comparing the PIRA to the ANC is a sick joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Is condemning all violence not condemning violence by the IRA. Why not ask him to specifically condem Nelson Mandela. He is not slow to condem violence by the British Soon as you question him on the actions of the IRA it's the usual broad brush answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo Jim Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Probably because Corbyn invited known IRA men to his offices in the Commons and shared Troops Out platforms with Adams and co. Comparing the PIRA to the ANC is a sick joke. You seem want to choose which so called terrorist to demonise and suggest that some other so called "terrorists" are perhaps " freedom fighters". The latter phrase is my interpretation of your comment. Not sure the people on the receiving end of eithers violence would have seen the difference. Still not have any dialouge with either would have helped solve the problem right enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Did anyone question Cameron when he did this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 You seem want to choose which so called terrorist to demonise and suggest that some other so called "terrorists" are perhaps " freedom fighters". The latter phrase is my interpretation of your comment. Not sure the people on the receiving end of eithers violence would have seen the difference. Still not have any dialouge with either would have helped solve the problem right enough.I'm not demonising him. These links have been prevalent since Corbyn became an MP. It isn't exactly a state secret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo Jim Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 I'm not demonising him. These links have been prevalent since Corbyn became an MP. It isn't exactly a state secret.[/quote So your taking the view that ANC violence was less an issue than IRA violence and linking the two is somehow is my "sick joke". Must mean the to you one was in the right and the other wrong. Depends how you see it, not that I agree with the violent approach of either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 So your taking the view that ANC violence was less an issue than IRA violence and linking the two is somehow is my "sick joke". Must mean the to you one was in the right and the other wrong. Depends how you see it, not that I agree with the violent approach of either. As a British politician, the ANC is far less relevant that terrorist acts committed in the UK. That's the key difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo Jim Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 As a British politician, the ANC is far less relevant that terrorist acts committed in the UK. That's the key difference. If you think your stance is the " key difference" then so be it. The question I asked, which I still don't think you have answered that if my response in comparing IRA violence to that undertaken by the ANC, is a "sick joke", do you see as one sides violence and tactics as acceptable and one not. If so why?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Did anyone question Cameron when he did this? Wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 If you think your stance is the " key difference" then so be it. The question I asked, which I still don't think you have answered that if my response in comparing IRA violence to that undertaken by the ANC, is a "sick joke", do you see as one sides violence and tactics as acceptable and one not. If so why?. I see neither as acceptable, however I can see more justification for the ANC than I can for the IRA. However, that's because the IRA were gangsters and made fortunes racketeering and smuggling. The "war" was a nice cloak under which to hide. Also, I doubt the ANC killed as many blacks as the IRA killed Catholics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo Jim Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 I see neither as acceptable, however I can see more justification for the ANC than I can for the IRA. However, that's because the IRA were gangsters and made fortunes racketeering and smuggling. The "war" was a nice cloak under which to hide. Also, I doubt the ANC killed as many blacks as the IRA killed Catholics. You have more information regarding the the funding etc of the IRA than I have although without any evidence to the contrary I would expect that the ANC might be no better than the IRA but you obviously know the reality of the situation better than me. I am unaware that the religion or colour of the dead and maimed was high on the list of priorities when looking for a body count no matter which murderer was planting a bomb. I was also of the opinion that neither cause was based exclusively on Colour or Religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 You have more information regarding the the funding etc of the IRA than I have although without any evidence to the contrary I would expect that the ANC might be no better than the IRA but you obviously know the reality of the situation better than me. I am unaware that the religion or colour of the dead and maimed was high on the list of priorities when looking for a body count no matter which murderer was planting a bomb. I was also of the opinion that neither cause was based exclusively on Colour or Religion.The point I was making was to show that the "cause" was just a tad tainted. In addition, democratic alternatives to violence existed in NI which didn't exist in apartheid South Africa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDonald Jardine Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 The point I was making was to show that the "cause" was just a tad tainted. In addition, democratic alternatives to violence existed in NI which didn't exist in apartheid South Africa.That's the key for me.Comparing Northern Ireland to a country where the vast majority had no vote and no prospect of getting one is a sick joke. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDonald Jardine Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Did anyone question Cameron when he did this? The FCS were scum but is there any evidence Cameron was directly linked to that poster? Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 The FCS were scum but is there any evidence Cameron was directly linked to that poster? Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Poster as in Space Sturgeon ? Probably ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo Jim Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 That's the key for me. Comparing Northern Ireland to a country where the vast majority had no vote and no prospect of getting one is a sick joke. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Aye the same democratic system that up until the recent past saw the catholic minority discriminated against in elections which were routinely subject to gerrymandering and property requirements. Fully supported by the state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 The FCS were scum but is there any evidence Cameron was directly linked to that poster? Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk According to this he wasn't a member of the FCS. http://www.newstatesman.com/media-mole/2013/12/twitter-fact-check-david-cameron-didnt-want-hang-nelson-mandela-80s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 According to this he wasn't a member of the FCS. http://www.newstatesman.com/media-mole/2013/12/twitter-fact-check-david-cameron-didnt-want-hang-nelson-mandela-80s He wasn't hence my wrong comment. The FCS was effectively shut down just as he was getting into politics however Spacey lines to just post random pics he himself doesn't actually believe. Or rather care if there's any ounce of truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Let's be honest, David Cameron is a right wing Tory ***** who sticks his ****** in deads pig mouths. Any arguments over that? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Chomp [emoji23] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Gatland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Gatland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Gatland Not a former member of PIRA being in the Tory Party, no way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Aye the same democratic system that up until the recent past saw the catholic minority discriminated against in elections which were routinely subject to gerrymandering and property requirements. Fully supported by the state.Since Stormont was abolished in 1972, what was the justification for another 22 years of violence, by this logic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDonald Jardine Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 You really think living in Northern Ireland in the 70s and 80s, with a universal franchise, was the same as South African townships? You're absolutely deluded. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Surprised Corbyn wasn't there to wipe Sand's arse for him, after all he must have been a great family man Right wing neo Cons all on the moral high ground it seems. I am sick off hearing about how Jeremy Corbyn is a Ira terrorist Sympathiser. So here is a member of parliament, who is his capacity as an mp, talked to these murdering scum, to try and get them to stop killing. Yet we had thatcher who was preaching we will never negotiate with Terrorists. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/?/1981-files-Margaret-Thatchers-?... See more And then this below??? Forget Corbyn and Sinn Fein: Meet the Senior Tory Who Was in the IRA As the Tories attack Jeremy Corbyn for trying to negotiate with Sinn Fein, the IRA's political front back in the 1970s, it is time to re... KENBELL.INFO And even John Cleese is attacking the Tories of being in cahoots with the media. It's obvious why the media isn't reporting John Cleese's extraordinary takedown of Theresa May | The Canary THECANARY.CO This one below is a beauty too. Jeremy Corbyn wins economists? backing for anti-austerity policies Former adviser to Bank of England among signatories to letter dismissing criticism of economic plans, saying they are ?not extreme? THEGUARDIAN.COM Evil Corbyn juts a evil nasty lefty eh.. Oh ffs another selfservative who is NOT in it together" and who is NOT about being "forward together" with us. Exclusive: Chancellor Philip Hammond took personal stake in food technology company months before it won share of ?560,000 Government contract TELEGRAPH.CO.UK Forward together eh.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieh Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Kezia has officially killed Scottish labour. A labour leader(Aye, good yin) actively urging her voters to vote Tory where labour are weak. Well Kezia where do we start. Ya fecking idiot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab87 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Kezia has officially killed Scottish labour. A labour leader(Aye, good yin) actively urging her voters to vote Tory where labour are weak. Well Kezia where do we start. Ya fecking idiot! Has she actually said that? Can you source it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Has she actually said that? Can you source it? Only place I can find anything is here. https://wingsoverscotland.com/in-case-you-still-werent-sure/ But if you listen to the 18 sec clip on the video she doesn't say she wants Labour voters to vote Tory, what she says is that in the Borders and Highlands the Tories are better placed to beat the SNP than Labour are. And she is right about the Borders (my constituency) as Labour are a very distant 3rd some 12,000 votes behind the SNP and over 13,000 behind the Tories, so it's a straight fight between the Tories and the SNP in the Borders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieh Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Has she actually said that? Can you source it?Youtube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieh Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Only place I can find anything is here. https://wingsoverscotland.com/in-case-you-still-werent-sure/ But if you listen to the 18 sec clip on the video she doesn't say she wants Labour voters to vote Tory, what she says is that in the Borders and Highlands the Tories are better placed to beat the SNP than Labour are. And she is right about the Borders (my constituency) as Labour are a very distant 3rd some 12,000 votes behind the SNP and over 13,000 behind the Tories, so it's a straight fight between the Tories and the SNP in the Borders. So she said then, otherwise she'd of said nothing. #snpbad. Goodnight Scottish labour, yer finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Yougov poll for Wales has Labour overturning the Tory lead and now well ahead of them . A 16 point shift to Corbyn which sees him 10 pts clear . If this starts to show the same for labour heartlands in England ,Tory spivs May not get the landslide and dictatorship of their dreams . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieh Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 So she said it then, otherwise she'd have said nothing. #snpbad. Goodnight Scottish labour, yer finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 So she said then, otherwise she'd of said nothing. #snpbad. Goodnight Scottish labour, yer finish. That's quite some incoherent post aussie. Labour have been on a downward spiral for quite some time, Dugdale isn't going to stop that either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieh Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 That's quite some incoherent post aussie. Labour have been on a downward spiral for quite some time, Dugdale isn't going to stop that either. Look above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 So she said it then, otherwise she'd have said nothing. #snpbad. Goodnight Scottish labour, yer finish. Look above. Our posts crossed. In your edited post above you say that she (Dugdale) said it then? Are you saying that in that video posted on the Wings Over Scotland site she is urging Labour voters to vote Tory so as to beat the SNP. Is that right? Is that what your saying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieh Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Our posts crossed. In your edited post above you say that she (Dugdale) said it then? Are you saying that in that video posted on the Wings Over Scotland site she is urging Labour voters to vote Tory so as to beat the SNP. Is that right? Is that what your saying? I don't take any notice of WoS. I watched on YouTube and that's exactly what's she's implying, otherwise she'd have said vote labour, SNP or Libdem or even the greens. What a Muppet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieh Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 A sell out and a traitor to her party and a real danger to Scotland. She'd rather see Tory MPs and the destruction that comes with it, than an Independent Scotland. A weird labour leader indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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