The 2015 General Election Megathread

[Hasselhoff]

40% of benefit claimants are in work. Most benefit payments are in fact subsidies to landlords and employers who refuse to pay the living wage. We are not talking about small businesses struggling to survive, but companies like Tesco, Celtic FC and Starbucks. Wake up and smell the coffee.

Of course some benefit claimants are in work, it tops up their money via tax credits etc. Rather than have them not working and being fully on benefits, they earn some money themselves and get the rest as top up from the government. Not only does this reduce welfare spend but they feel like they are earning their way in life as opposed to just getting handouts.

[Gorgiewave]

Paranoia is rampant in Scotland because of ill-informed "independent-minded" DYOR-types and the SNP's stirring:

 

https://twitter.com/07586298862_/status/594659300951334912/photo/1

 

Edited May 6, 2015 by Gorgiewave

[maroonlegions]

Ha ha, brilliant, are some waking up to the fact that the elite run the country no matter the government. Out off touch? course they fecking are.

 

 

?Do you think the UK?s current democracy, crippling voter apathy, is caused by the fact that its Prime Minister, Mayor of the capital, and Chancellor were all in the same class at school?"

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/generalelection/general-election-2015-watch-david-cameron-and-boris-johnson-being-told-theyre-elitist-and-out-of-touch-because-they-went-to-eton-10226546.html

[aussieh]

...to be replaced by Nutter Black, Bigot O' Hare, Tax Avoidance Expert/Twitter Troll Hay and Margaret 'ask me anything but just don't ask me about anything of substance' Farrier.

 

What an improvement.

bigot O'Hare?

[Gorgiewave]

Ha ha, brilliant, are some waking up to the fact that the elite run the country no matter the government. Out off touch? course they fecking are.

 

 

?Do you think the UK?s current democracy, crippling voter apathy, is caused by the fact that its Prime Minister, Mayor of the capital, and Chancellor were all in the same class at school?"

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/generalelection/general-election-2015-watch-david-cameron-and-boris-johnson-being-told-theyre-elitist-and-out-of-touch-because-they-went-to-eton-10226546.html

 

Have you ever checked a fact or done anything than regurgitated undigested information in your entire life?

 

George Osborne went to St. Paul's School.

Boris Johnson and David Cameron went to Eton but Johnson is two years older.

[Mikey1874]

Getting people into jobs stops welfare being as high. That is their plan along with more of the same but to a lesser extent as the last 5 years.

 

How many times over is the mansion tax and 50% tax being spent currently in the Labour/SNP manifesto? They will stifle business causing more people to be out of work and increasing the welfare bill.

definitely need jobs and to encourage business and enterprise

 

its not so clear though how best to do this

 

certainly seen business people say "let the Tories finish the job" but I'm not sure for example how a 2 year pause before an EU referendum that is likely to put off for at least delay investment when a recovery is still fragile or a confused immigration policy that on the one hand means up to 1 in 2 of new jobs will go to an immigrant while high value tourists or skilled workers or students are denied entry - how these will encourage investment and sustainable growth?

 

Radical changes to education and health to encourage enterprise and social mobility not protecting vested interests - still waiting to hear from our "brave new world" SNP 8 years of nothing of course but that's another debate.

 

then there's the whole argument the SNP notably make - that austerity is limiting the economy and many economists argue you should invest at such a time

 

while I agree with the point about high tax measures on small number of the richest, arguably a government that has doubled the debt hasn't made the case that it deserves to "finish the job"

[SE16 3LN]

Of course some benefit claimants are in work, it tops up their money via tax credits etc. Rather than have them not working and being fully on benefits, they earn some money themselves and get the rest as top up from the government. Not only does this reduce welfare spend but they feel like they are earning their way in life as opposed to just getting handouts.

40% isn't "some. Why should the tax payer subsidise multi-national companies who make billions of pounds in profit, but pay their workers peanuts? It's part of the greed culture that led the country to the edge. 

[Boab]

Paranoia is rampant in Scotland because of ill-informed "independent-minded" DYOR-types and the SNP's stirring:

 

https://twitter.com/07586298862_/status/594659300951334912/photo/1

 

We may not agree with a lot of things politically, GW, but thanks for posting this.

This will be my 15th or thereabouts Election working and the first time I've seen anything like this. 

Our briefings are always on the side of security so can only imagine this is the work of freaks.

[TheMaganator]

Paranoia is rampant in Scotland because of ill-informed "independent-minded" DYOR-types and the SNP's stirring:

 

https://twitter.com/07586298862_/status/594659300951334912/photo/1

 

 

Fess up SNP voters of JKB. Who of you will be assisting in maintaining democracy by providing a personal escort to the ballot papers?

[TheMaganator]

Have you ever checked a fact or done anything than regurgitated undigested information in your entire life?

 

George Osborne went to St. Paul's School.

Boris Johnson and David Cameron went to Eton but Johnson is two years older.

(Admin delete)  Trolling.

[Guest Trapper John]

 

Fess up SNP voters of JKB. Who of you will be assisting in maintaining democracy by providing a personal escort to the ballot papers?

I'm taking a big stick with me, just in case.

[Gorgiewave]

We may not agree with a lot of things politically, GW, but thanks for posting this.

This will be my 15th or thereabouts Election working and the first time I've seen anything like this. 

Our briefings are always on the side of security so can only imagine this is the work of freaks.

 

It's one thing I've never feared in Britain, a vote being rigged or a ballot box stuffed.

Edited May 6, 2015 by Gorgiewave

[JAYEL]

40% isn't "some. Why should the tax payer subsidise multi-national companies who make billions of pounds in profit, but pay their workers peanuts? It's part of the greed culture that led the country to the edge. 

 

Time for change

[TheMaganator]

100 broken promises from the SNP.

 

http://100snpfailedpromises.weebly.com

[Boab]

It's one thing I've feared in Britain, a vote being rigged or a ballot box stuffed.

 

Trust me, it's fantasy.

We may have very different views but Britain's Election process is second to none. Believe me.

Some of the nonsense at the referendum was that....nonsense.

[maroonlegions]

Have you ever checked a fact or done anything than regurgitated undigested information in your entire life?

 

George Osborne went to St. Paul's School.

Boris Johnson and David Cameron went to Eton but Johnson is two years older.

 

Cam doon drama queen, it was a question from a member of the audience and was not my belief that they were all in the same class but its my belief that the elite run the country that was my point i was making. Try and lay off the personal attacks though. 

[Guest Trapper John]

100 broken promises from the SNP.

 

http://100snpfailedpromises.weebly.com

Only a 100?

[manaliveits105]

Main stv news from London obviously and Glasgow ? ? Edinburgh is the capital and seat of Scottish Parliament but gives an inkling of how an independent scotland would be manipulated by the weeg .Our dear first minister has refused to move to Edinburgh but would rather travel from that dear green place on a daily basis.Insult !.

[luckydug]

Ian Duncan Smith has shown to me just what the agenda of the tory  welfare cuts are all about and  those recent attacks on the benefits awarded to the  disabled and sick  were totally barbaric, people struggling have taken their own lives because of those barbaric cuts  to their welfare.

 

Getting people into work is all fine and dandy but what is the percentage of those very jobs that  actually  pay poverty wages or below inflation wages.That recently leaked tory welfare cuts dossier that contained in it the  drawn up plans to cut working tax credits and child benefit is were its at. The fact that those cuts to working tax credits that a lot of people in work i may add rely on were being considered for cuts in the first place signifies  the true tory  perception of the ordinary person, they dont give a feck about the  sick, old disabled, the millions in  poorly paid jobs , they have made that abundantly clear in 5 years they have been in power.

 

I ask myself this question, why did that  tory Ruth Davidson not come clean on any future tory welfare cuts or those before, why? because she and her party knows  that there is  more misery to come for the less well off if those heart less b******* get in again.

 

I find it difficult to believe that they haven't been put under more pressure about these welfare cuts.

Its as if welfare has become a dirty word . The other night Davidson was not pressed on exactly what these welfare cuts would entail. The presenter on the debate made sure of that.

All any of these Tories say when challenged about the use of food banks is that getting everybody into work will sort everything.

They ignore the fact a lot of people using food banks are in work on pitiful wages. If they would insist that companies paid the living wage they would be able to cut in work benefits. At the moment in work benefits in some cases are actually subsidising tight fisted employers.

Its these tight fisted employers who are actually the real benefit cheats by having the government paying their wages for them .

All I can say is that people in rUK must be happy with this situation and that is why I shall be voting SNP and hopefully one day rUK can keep the Tories to themself.

[Don Draper]

It's been fun guys, we've all enjoyed this thread a great deal, but the time is almost upon us. I look forward to discussing the fallout with you all come may 8th.

 

But it's about time this thread was closed for quiet reflection.

 

[Pans Jambo]

This fella,James Forrest,has got it spot on,Unionists on here will hate it but they know he speaks for the majority of decent minded folk on JKB.

 

http://www.commentisntfree.com/the-last-days-of-a-loveless-marriage/

Thats a good read

[Mikey1874]

I find it difficult to believe that they haven't been put under more pressure about these welfare cuts.

the level of scrutiny generally seems lacking

 

best I've seen is the tv debates with younger people who ask a better range of questions

 

but cutting benefits is seen as popular / a vote winner

 

unless of course you look at people's actual lives where the level of suffering seems to have increased.

[Hasselhoff]

40% isn't "some. Why should the tax payer subsidise multi-national companies who make billions of pounds in profit, but pay their workers peanuts? It's part of the greed culture that led the country to the edge.

Many economists suggest that it is a bad idea to raise minimum wage drastically above inflation and that tax credits are the better way to top someone up to an amount which allows them to get by. This is a something the Tories are trying to do with universal credit.

 

By sharply raising the minimum wage, companies would have to spend more money per employee which eats into profits. As a private business they are entitled to make whatever decisions they need to in that situation and so the cuts would follow. Alternatively, the government could give the company money to help fund the increased wages but then it would be pointless taking more money then giving some back. The fairest way is for the government to make up the shortfall via tax credits. That way, the people who need the money most will always get the help up from the government. The tax threshold has increased from ?5k odd under labour to ?10k+ under the coalition so the poorest in society get to keep every penny they earn.

 

If you don't like the private companies making these decisions and paying poorly, boycott them. Private companies with shareholders are entitled to run their business in the most efficient manner as possible. In an ideal world companies should do what Hearts have done and pay a living wage but by forcing companies to do it, it may well push more into unemployment.

 

What i find poor is the huge layer of management at the top of the untouchable NHS. Managers getting ?400k a year for working for the NHS when we are struggling to get enough nurses and doctors. There should be a salary cap of ?100k if you work for the NHS. No way should a pencil pusher get paid more than a surgeon. Get rid of these wasters and stop writing blank cheques to the NHS to fritter away on middle management. Doctors, nurses and equipment should be the main spend areas and I hope whoever does get in to government streamlines the management heavily.

[TheMaganator]

Full Fiscal Autonomy demolished again, the SNP candidate floundering and clueless.

 

Glorious.

 

These people genuinely have no clue. None.

 

They have a few lines that they learn and parrot but don't even understand what they are saying.

 

But we'll be sending 40+ to Westminster

[The Mighty Thor]

Glorious.

 

These people genuinely have no clue. None.

 

They have a few lines that they learn and parrot but don't even understand what they are saying.

 

But we'll be sending 40+ to Westminster

It's almost like listening to Dave and the boys when they are asked about the 12 billion of welfare cuts and if child benefit will be protected. They haven't a scooby.

[jambos are go!]

As someone who is a first time voter in this general election, up until September of last year I would have voted for Labour because I believed that they had the best interests of the working people of this country at heart. However, their smear tactics against the SNP would rival those in the Daily Mail which seem to portray anyone who votes for the SNP as someone who wants to undermine the very nature of democracy. What faith can I, as a first time, left-minded voter have in a Labour party who just last year stood on the same soapbox as the Tories and promised the world if we stayed, yet have delivered nothing?

 

The SNP seem to favour moderate spending increases as a means of kickstarting the economy and investing in the future; reducing the deficit without it being at the expense of the most vulnerable, while also not believing that their country should be used as a nuclear base capable of wiping out civilisation. Surely these views only seem extreme if you are, in fact a right-wing lunatic?

 

 

So it was only last September that you realised that long running Better Together campaign  contained Labour and the Tories and they were both in favour of Trident. Pull the other one

Edited May 6, 2015 by jambos are go!

[jambo1185]

Now there's an interesting point. The party whip can make or break your career? your career? Is that serving your constituents or carving yourself a notch a wee bit further up the greasy pole?

 

I suppose getting one's snout into the trough at Westminster must be quite intoxicating.

Depends on if you have a backbone i suppose. The whips never used to be so strong but its a development for the worst over the past 10yrs or so. Continually cos trouble and you won't get a ministerial post under the current leadership but plenty of backbenchers have no problem with that across the house and wont be easily compromised.

 

It will be interesting to see how intoxicating all the newbies find it after s couple of years. Robertson certainly has had his monies worth.

[Guest Trapper John]

It's almost like listening to Dave and the boys when they are asked about the 12 billion of welfare cuts and if child benefit will be protected. They haven't a scooby.

Or Nic splaff about the the ?7.6bn FFA gap and the ?7bn of oil revenues.

 

I agree, it seems to be catching.

[TheMaganator]

As someone who is a first time voter in this general election, up until September of last year I would have voted for Labour because I believed that they had the best interests of the working people of this country at heart. However, their smear tactics against the SNP would rival those in the Daily Mail which seem to portray anyone who votes for the SNP as someone who wants to undermine the very nature of democracy. What faith can I, as a first time, left-minded voter have in a Labour party who just last year stood on the same soapbox as the Tories and promised the world if we stayed, yet have delivered nothing?

 

The SNP seem to favour moderate spending increases as a means of kickstarting the economy and investing in the future; reducing the deficit without it being at the expense of the most vulnerable, while also not believing that their country should be used as a nuclear base capable of wiping out civilisation. Surely these views only seem extreme if you are, in fact a right-wing lunatic?

The Smith Commission is being delivered with all timescales having been honoured.

 

Even Sturgeon acknowledges this.

 

So, what hasn't been delivered?

 

Also, if you don't like labour because they campaigned with the Tories on a single issue that was important to both parties then you should have a long hard look at yourself. That's the most small minded and ridiculous reason to hate a party.

[Guest Trapper John]

The Smith Commission is being delivered with all timescales having been honoured.

 

Even Sturgeon acknowledges this.

 

So, what hasn't been delivered?

 

Also, if you don't like labour because they campaigned with the Tories on a single issue that was important to both parties then you should have a long hard look at yourself. That's the most small minded and ridiculous reason to hate a party.

 

 

You've got to admit, it's one they like to cling on to.

[jambo1185]

40% isn't "some. Why should the tax payer subsidise multi-national companies who make billions of pounds in profit, but pay their workers peanuts? It's part of the greed culture that led the country to the edge.

The cliff edge of benefits is also a real problem and discourages many from taking additional work as the cut in benefits from working more than a set number of hours would be more than additional wage. The whole system needs an overhaul but its not a small or quick job.

 

Also hard to unpick and rebuild without some losing out in the process.

 

It's all about getting people into work but work that pays, but its easier said than done.

 

7bn of the welfare bill cut is dwp modelling on savings achievable over the life of the parliament by getting more into work.

[jambo1185]

A cut in national insurance would be better thsn increasing the personal allowance i think for those on lower incomes.

 

And a ten pound minimum wage put immediately into effect would ramp up the unemployment rate rather quickly. Its not an easy balance and id like to see the minimum wage de-politicised. Im interested to see what the independent low pay commission Davidson is setting up comes out with.

[Norm]

Still haven't made my mind up. None of the parties or candidates impress me. I'm tempted to let my wife pick. She's a bit pissed off she can't vote. Lived here 16 years, pays taxes but has no say in how it gets used. I don't really get that.

[Mikey1874]

100 broken promises from the SNP.

 

http://100snpfailedpromises.weebly.com

this is interesting, thanks

 

It seems dated with lots of references to 2010 and Promise 48 was to hold an independence referendum

 

but interesting

 

I'd be more interested to see a list of 100 achievements by SNP (helped by Conservative votes for 1st term) Scottish Government

 

no rush - for the 2016 election megathread will be fine folks

[Malinga the Swinga]

Trolling post deleted.

not even in the worst half dozen, and I am polar opposite party from him. Said it before, there are two clear 'worst posters' who cannot argue with facts but instead use laughing gifts, their own made up words and if that fails, the Red Tories and Thatchers deid response.

 

If they are an example of what Scotland has to offer in the future, then it is a bleak picture for our country.

[Guest Trapper John]

not even in the worst half dozen, and I am polar opposite party from him. Said it before, there are two clear 'worst posters' who cannot argue with facts but instead use laughing gifts, their own made up words and if that fails, the Red Tories and Thatchers deid response.

 

If they are an example of what Scotland has to offer in the future, then it is a bleak picture for our country.

Shhh Malinga, you're playing into the Nats hands about us Red and Blue Tories being in cahoots with each other...

[Gorgiewave]

It's almost like listening to Dave and the boys when they are asked about the 12 billion of welfare cuts and if child benefit will be protected. They haven't a scooby.

 

Vote Labour, then. The logical answer.

[Gorgiewave]

Still haven't made my mind up. None of the parties or candidates impress me. I'm tempted to let my wife pick. She's a bit pissed off she can't vote. Lived here 16 years, pays taxes but has no say in how it gets used. I don't really get that.

 

Nigel Farage has a German wife, so....

[JamboX2]

Labour and the Tories - 100 years of broken promises.

 

Bring on tomorrow.

Bollocks.

 

Workers rights, the Wheatly Act clearing the slums, public transportation, schools for all, health for all, the welfare state, the open university, gay and lesbian equality, ending the death penalty, pensioners rights, the human rights act, maternity leave, paternity leave, the minimum wage, safeguarding our European membership, international development, women's rights, children's rights, tackling child poverty, tackling pensioner poverty, in Scotland - Free Tuition, New schools, New hospitals, Free personal care for the elderly, increased child care...

 

Labour has delivered for Scotland and Britain.

 

Even under Blair.

 

The SNP have done excellent work at avoiding a lot of bad things in Scotland when in power that need to change and change fast.mhell,nthe you were opposed to a 50p rate, a mansion tax and the abolition of zero hours until a month ago. Beware faux revolutions.

[Guest Trapper John]

Bollocks.

 

Workers rights, the Wheatly Act clearing the slums, public transportation, schools for all, health for all, the welfare state, the open university, gay and lesbian equality, ending the death penalty, pensioners rights, the human rights act, maternity leave, paternity leave, the minimum wage, safeguarding our European membership, international development, women's rights, children's rights, tackling child poverty, tackling pensioner poverty, in Scotland - Free Tuition, New schools, New hospitals, Free personal care for the elderly, increased child care...

 

Labour has delivered for Scotland and Britain.

 

Even under Blair.

 

The SNP have done excellent work at avoiding a lot of bad things in Scotland when in power that need to change and change fast.mhell,nthe you were opposed to a 50p rate, a mansion tax and the abolition of zero hours until a month ago. Beware faux revolutions.

 A post of genius.

[Norm]

Nigel Farage has a German wife, so....

Poor Nigel. His own wife won't even vote for him at this election. Same for Nick.

Edited May 6, 2015 by Normthebarman

[aussieh]

not even in the worst half dozen, and I am polar opposite party from him. Said it before, there are two clear 'worst posters' who cannot argue with facts but instead use laughing gifts, their own made up words and if that fails, the Red Tories and Thatchers deid response.

If they are an example of what Scotland has to offer in the future, then it is a bleak picture for our country.

goalllllllllllllllllll. 51 51 51 51 51 SPUNKTACULAR, MINTIT, & VERY SPLENDIDDIES.

[jack D and coke]

Many economists suggest that it is a bad idea to raise minimum wage drastically above inflation and that tax credits are the better way to top someone up to an amount which allows them to get by. This is a something the Tories are trying to do with universal credit.

 

By sharply raising the minimum wage, companies would have to spend more money per employee which eats into profits. As a private business they are entitled to make whatever decisions they need to in that situation and so the cuts would follow. Alternatively, the government could give the company money to help fund the increased wages but then it would be pointless taking more money then giving some back. The fairest way is for the government to make up the shortfall via tax credits. That way, the people who need the money most will always get the help up from the government. The tax threshold has increased from ?5k odd under labour to ?10k+ under the coalition so the poorest in society get to keep every penny they earn.

 

If you don't like the private companies making these decisions and paying poorly, boycott them. Private companies with shareholders are entitled to run their business in the most efficient manner as possible. In an ideal world companies should do what Hearts have done and pay a living wage but by forcing companies to do it, it may well push more into unemployment.

 

What i find poor is the huge layer of management at the top of the untouchable NHS. Managers getting ?400k a year for working for the NHS when we are struggling to get enough nurses and doctors. There should be a salary cap of ?100k if you work for the NHS. No way should a pencil pusher get paid more than a surgeon. Get rid of these wasters and stop writing blank cheques to the NHS to fritter away on middle management. Doctors, nurses and equipment should be the main spend areas and I hope whoever does get in to government streamlines the management heavily.

Agree with some of your post but I watched this the other night. It's fairly long at about 20 mins but he has an interesting theory on minimum wage and evidence of Seattle in particular raising it and seeing tremendous benefits. Worth a watch.....

[Gorgiewave]

Poor Nigel. His own wife won't even vote for him at this election. Same for Nick.

 

Nick's the unfortunate one. She's adorable.

[TheMaganator]

Massie voting Labour in my constituency.

 

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2015/05/why-i-am-voting-labour/

 

That's good enough for me.

 

#RedMaganator

[Psychedelicropcircle]

Every time it read on here about how great the Labour Party are, it's like reading a history lesson, history was yesterday not today. I hope they fail miserably tomorrow to make them rethink policy and rid themselves of the murphys & mcternan's of this world. The chat of them breaking from London labour will be down to the people who have abandoned them in indyref and this & next years Holyrood election. I do believe that's called change.

 

Best I can do team unionist.

[jambo1185]

I think if you have a cut in employers ni to correspond with any quick increase in the minimum wage that offers a good balance of the employees getting all ghe benefits without the employer being left with affordability problems.

 

Also have to watch that prices dont end up rising as a result as you just end up where you were before (if your wage goes up 3% and the price of goods goes up 3% as well you aren't any better off).

[Pans Jambo]

Many economists suggest that it is a bad idea to raise minimum wage drastically above inflation and that tax credits are the better way to top someone up to an amount which allows them to get by. This is a something the Tories are trying to do with universal credit.

 

By sharply raising the minimum wage, companies would have to spend more money per employee which eats into profits. As a private business they are entitled to make whatever decisions they need to in that situation and so the cuts would follow. Alternatively, the government could give the company money to help fund the increased wages but then it would be pointless taking more money then giving some back. The fairest way is for the government to make up the shortfall via tax credits. That way, the people who need the money most will always get the help up from the government. The tax threshold has increased from ?5k odd under labour to ?10k+ under the coalition so the poorest in society get to keep every penny they earn.

 

If you don't like the private companies making these decisions and paying poorly, boycott them. Private companies with shareholders are entitled to run their business in the most efficient manner as possible. In an ideal world companies should do what Hearts have done and pay a living wage but by forcing companies to do it, it may well push more into unemployment.

 

What i find poor is the huge layer of management at the top of the untouchable NHS. Managers getting ?400k a year for working for the NHS when we are struggling to get enough nurses and doctors. There should be a salary cap of ?100k if you work for the NHS. No way should a pencil pusher get paid more than a surgeon. Get rid of these wasters and stop writing blank cheques to the NHS to fritter away on middle management. Doctors, nurses and equipment should be the main spend areas and I hope whoever does get in to government streamlines the management heavily.

Xxxx "economists". The most evil folk on the surface of the planet. ? is more important to human lives with them.

CEO's earning millions P/A whilst they pay minimum salaries & the ?Billions of profits roll in. Its just greed.

I am ashamed that people turn a blind eye & accept that there is a term called "the working poor" who are employed full time and yet have to go cap in hand to the government for a "top-up" in order to survive and then our government allows said companies to effectively dodge their tax liabilities. Furthermore, the members of our Westminster elite own shares in these private companies and allow them to take public monies by granting them NHS/MOD contracts etc.

evil, corrupt, rotten.

Do we keep them in their positions or do something about it tomorrow?

[jambo1185]

I thought bankers were the most evil?

 

Its also hard to attack big business without doing damage to sme's in the process which is probably why successive governments have failed or not really tried properly.

 

Sadly nothing is as easy to fix as it might seem at a high level, otherwise other countries would have worked out to how go eradicate all these issues before now.

 

What new governments tend to find is lots of what they want to do isnt actually possible (well according to the civil servants at Whitehall and Holyrood anyway) and change is limited to a bit of tinkering around the edges.

Edited May 6, 2015 by jambo1185

[Malinga the Swinga]

Glorious.

These people genuinely have no clue. None.

They have a few lines that they learn and parrot but don't even understand what they are saying.

But we'll be sending 40+ to Westminster

The SNP have been given a ridiculously easy time by the UK media, their leader is allowed to interrupt questions and just answer with her prepared statements, regardless of whether her answer even relates to the question or not, no questions regarding failed policies, promises or pledges are permitted and accompanying Sturgeon at all times are her faithful band of cheerleaders who barrack all other party leaders and speakers.

 

No dissent is permitted in Nicola's hand picked bunch of MP wannabees, they don't have to understand what they are saying, just repeat it parrot fashion yet when they are questioned, the blank expressions that are displayed on their faces are a joy to be seen.

 

The SNP and that other separist party Sinn Fein have a lot more in common than they would care to admit. Both parties would do anything to break up the union and both parties despise the vast majority of citizens from Great Britain and Northern Ireland.