Walter Payton Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Extreme3DJ one of the few good players on Sky. Would generally take his bets for what they are/ Cheers- the King definitely did me favours as it slowed him down, but I wasn't calling any more big bets anyway. It's hard to know when you raise from the button, you don't know if the reraise is just because they think you're at it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statto Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Finished 19th. Won ?11.60. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Macaroons Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 2nd in the ?6K rebuy will hill tonight ?1364 in the pokey, also bubbled in the ?9K which was a bummer. FREE MONEY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Macaroons Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 I've got no idea what Redsleuth's talking about... CONGRATULATIONS you have won a prize post No 1000 on the poko thread collect your prize at the Nigerian post office just beside the job centre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsmak Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 i really wanted to have the 1000th O well.. I'll get number 2000. OK.. Calculating the outs.. Calculate the number of 'outs' opponent 2 has to outright win or tie the hand given both players have moved all in: Opponent 1: AcJs Opponent 2: As5h Flop/Turn: Ah, 2c, 2h, - 3h Its not that difficult but lets help the newer guys to work the answers out more. Also who is favourite to win the hand at this point with only 1 card to come Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scallywag Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Player 2 has 12 outs, 24 % chance. Player 1 has 50 outs, 80% chance. Is that right ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merse Posted February 26, 2009 Author Share Posted February 26, 2009 2nd in the ?6K rebuy will hill tonight ?1364 in the pokey, also bubbled in the ?9K which was a bummer. FREE MONEY Jeezo thats good going. I was a bit of a yo yo last night. I hate working, not getting enough time to play patient poker now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merse Posted February 26, 2009 Author Share Posted February 26, 2009 Player 2 has 12 outs, 24 % chance. Player 1 has 50 outs, 80% chance. Is that right ? Mmm wouldn't think so. Player 2 can hit 9 flush outs. 3 straight outs (4 but the 4 of hearts is already accounted for), and 3 5's for a better 2 pair. 4 K's and 4 Q's for a split. So technically 23 cards for a split or better. 15 to win 8 to split. AJ has has 25 cards for a split or better, 17 to win, 8 to split. AJ must therefore be the favourite with 1 card to come. That right Smak? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merse Posted February 26, 2009 Author Share Posted February 26, 2009 (edited) Mmm wouldn't think so. Player 2 can hit 9 flush outs. 3 straight outs (4 but the 4 of hearts is already accounted for), and 3 5's for a better 2 pair. 3 K's and 3 Q's for a split. So technically 21 cards for a split or better. 15 to win 6 to split. AJ has has 29 cards for a split or better, 23 to win, 6 to split. AJ must therefore be the favourite with 1 card to come. That right Smak? Have edited as made a mistake. Probably still have, its waaay too early. Edited February 26, 2009 by D-McG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Payton Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 (edited) Ace, King or Queen splits the pot (as long as it's not a Heart). Any Heart,4 or 5 gives it to A,5. Everything else gives it to A,J. I reckon- about 45% chance to A,J about 35% chance to A,5 20% split pot. Edited February 26, 2009 by Andy Grant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Macaroons Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Jeezo thats good going. I was a bit of a yo yo last night. I hate working, not getting enough time to play patient poker now! ty. Yes, it can be annoying when work gets in the way of a good game of poker! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Macaroons Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Question ...re carving up the prize money online. last night myself and the eventuall winner wanted to split the prize money when we both had 330000 chips and called for admin in the chatbox...ive seen this done before with admin appearing in red type and stopping tourney to carry out the wishes but they didnt appear this time,....how do you instigate this properly? FWIW not long after he won with 33 v my AK, flop A 3 7 turn blank river blank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsmak Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Player 2 has 12 outs, 24 % chance. Player 1 has 50 outs, 80% chance. Is that right ? Just want to know the outs for player 2 to win or half the pot. And no, not right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsmak Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Mmm wouldn't think so. Player 2 can hit 9 flush outs. 3 straight outs (4 but the 4 of hearts is already accounted for), and 3 5's for a better 2 pair. 3 K's and 3 Q's for a split. So technically 21 cards for a split or better. 15 to win 6 to split. AJ has has 29 cards for a split or better, 23 to win, 6 to split. AJ must therefore be the favourite with 1 card to come. That right Smak? Have edited as made a mistake. Probably still have, its waaay too early. Nope, both your first and second answers are wrong. Ace, King or Queen splits the pot (as long as it's not a Heart). Any Heart,4 or 5 gives it to A,5. Everything else gives it to A,J. I reckon- about 45% chance to A,J about 35% chance to A,5 20% split pot. Close... not 100% correct. Also - What is your actual answer on the number of outs to win or split it? Anyone else want to try at it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merse Posted February 26, 2009 Author Share Posted February 26, 2009 Nope, both your first and second answers are wrong. Close... not 100% correct. Also - What is your actual answer on the number of outs to win or split it? Anyone else want to try at it? Its because I forgot to put the ace as a split isn't it. Correct otherwise I think!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Macaroons Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 (edited) Anyone else want to try at it? 25? 9 flush 3 3,s 3 4's 3 5's 3 k's 3 q's 1 ace Edited February 26, 2009 by Era Macaroons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsmak Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Its because I forgot to put the ace as a split isn't it. Correct otherwise I think!! Nope 28? 9 flush 3 3,s 4 4's 3 5's 4 k's 4 q's 1 ace nope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsmak Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 25? 9 flush 3 3,s 3 4's 3 5's 3 k's 3 q's 1 ace I got in before you edited it.. Still wrong though, both 28 and 25 are not the right answers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merse Posted February 26, 2009 Author Share Posted February 26, 2009 i really wanted to have the 1000th O well.. I'll get number 2000. OK.. Calculating the outs.. Calculate the number of 'outs' opponent 2 has to outright win or tie the hand given both players have moved all in: Opponent 1: AcJs Opponent 2: As5h Flop/Turn: Ah, 2c, 2h, - 3h Its not that difficult but lets help the newer guys to work the answers out more. Also who is favourite to win the hand at this point with only 1 card to come Right FFS I'm getting it right this time. Opponent 1 can hit: 2 x J 3 x T 3 x 9 3 x 8 3 x 7 3 x 6 3 x 3 So thats 20 outs to win, and 3 K's, 3 Q's, 2 2's and the case Ace to split. 20 wins, 9 splits. Opponent 2 can hit. 9 x flush outs, 3 x straight outs. 3 x 5 for better 2 pair. and has 9 split outs. So 15 wins and 7 splits. Opp 1: 20 wins, 9 splits. Opp 2: 15 wins, 9 splits. Surely I've got it this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Macaroons Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 I got in before you edited it.. Still wrong though, both 28 and 25 are not the right answers 27 ? (add in 2 2's) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsmak Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 OK this is the answer for Quiz 1 Calculate the number of 'outs' opponent 2 has to outright win or tie the hand given both players have moved all in: Opponent 1: AcJs Opponent 2: As5h Flop/Turn: Ah, 2c, 2h, - 3h OK... Player 2 can split the pot with The A, = 1 the 3 kings (not hearts) = 3 the 3 queens (Not hearts) = 3 The other 2s - giving both a full house = 2 Thats 9 outs. To win the pot - the 3 fours for a straight, the 3 5s for the win - (2 pairs) thats 6 more outs. he also has the remaining hearts 4,6,7,8,9,10,J,Q,K = 9 outs 9=9=6 = 24 outs to win or half the pot. Everyone forgot about the 2 for the split Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merse Posted February 26, 2009 Author Share Posted February 26, 2009 OK this is the answer for Quiz 1 Calculate the number of 'outs' opponent 2 has to outright win or tie the hand given both players have moved all in: Opponent 1: AcJs Opponent 2: As5h Flop/Turn: Ah, 2c, 2h, - 3h OK... Player 2 can split the pot with The A, = 1 the 3 kings (not hearts) = 3 the 3 queens (Not hearts) = 3 The other 2s - giving both a full house = 2 Thats 9 outs. To win the pot - the 3 fours for a straight, the 3 5s for the win - (2 pairs) thats 6 more outs. he also has the remaining hearts 4,6,7,8,9,10,J,Q,K = 9 outs 9=9=6 = 24 outs to win or half the pot. Everyone forgot about the 2 for the split I nipped in at the end getting it right bawbag. Btw there is TWO 2's you can hit!! Not one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Macaroons Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 fek it...im all in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merse Posted February 26, 2009 Author Share Posted February 26, 2009 fek it...im all in! I call. I'm opponent 3 with pocket 2's. You owe me ?1,364. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsmak Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 I nipped in at the end getting it right bawbag. Btw there is TWO 2's you can hit!! Not one. I know .. Well done on getting it right.. It was just an exercise to show that its not always the easiest to work out in about 10 seconds what your outs and odds are. If can be complicated. I would rather have the AJ in this situation. But I know the bar steward would hit against me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merse Posted February 26, 2009 Author Share Posted February 26, 2009 I know .. Well done on getting it right.. It was just an exercise to show that its not always the easiest to work out in about 10 seconds what your outs and odds are. If can be complicated. I would rather have the AJ in this situation. But I know the bar steward would hit against me. You should try some Omaha when your all in on the flop against someone and the cards are coming down and you're trying to figure out what you need to avoid! Basically just have to wait to see which direction t he chips move in!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsmak Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 You should try some Omaha when your all in on the flop against someone and the cards are coming down and you're trying to figure out what you need to avoid! Basically just have to wait to see which direction t he chips move in!! I do love Omaha. I read the the Brunson section on it and have played it a lot online, at a very low limit. I seem to do OK.. Its a game you play after the flop. I am really enjoying Omaha Hi/low and find it is a fun, if not that profitable game as a lot of pots are split. Thank goodness its pot limit though. Saves the cash! You just need to feel the game more and remember the nuts changes all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merse Posted February 26, 2009 Author Share Posted February 26, 2009 I do love Omaha. I read the the Brunson section on it and have played it a lot online, at a very low limit. I seem to do OK.. Its a game you play after the flop. I am really enjoying Omaha Hi/low and find it is a fun, if not that profitable game as a lot of pots are split. Thank goodness its pot limit though. Saves the cash! You just need to feel the game more and remember the nuts changes all the time. I absolutely love omaha mate. And do pretty well out of it! I was just meaning it all happens so quick if there is an all in showdown that its hard to follow what hes got as the turn and river drop and figuring out whether your hand stands up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Payton Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 After raving about how easy Sky Poker was, I just experienced the consequences and had one of the worst suck outs I've ever seen- and I wouldn't have even won the hand! I can only imagine the guy hit "call" by mistake (twice). I've got K,K on the button and there has been 4 limpers so far in a 6 handed game (25/50p stakes) so I raise it 2.50. Small blind re-raises to 7.50, UTG calls and I call. Flop comes As,Kc,8d. Button Raises ?10 (pot's over ?20), UTG calls and I shove for ?40 more- both call. Because it's sky poker, cards aren't turned over until after the river. Turn and River come 9d,3,d. SB has A,A. UTG has 2d,4d for the flush... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Macaroons Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 I call. I'm opponent 3 with pocket 2's. You owe me ?1,364. LOL I'll be playing the ?6K again tonight (hills 9.10pm) ...going for a hat trick of final tables in this tourney (in a row). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Macaroons Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 I know .. Well done on getting it right.. It was just an exercise to show that its not always the easiest to work out in about 10 seconds what your outs and odds are. If can be complicated. I would rather have the AJ in this situation. But I know the bar steward would hit against me. I find it best to do a quick guestimate, it really doesnt matter if your a wee bit off, a quick bet will often push out the guy that needs 20 secs to work out how hes sitting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Macaroons Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Pah...no hat trick. out 82nd So are we gonna have this 1000th post game? Ill start the ball rolling with a suggestion....how about next thurs on Hills 9pm $10 buy in theres a tab for setting up a private touney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merse Posted February 26, 2009 Author Share Posted February 26, 2009 Pah...no hat trick. out 82nd So are we gonna have this 1000th post game? Ill start the ball rolling with a suggestion....how about next thurs on Hills 9pm $10 buy in theres a tab for setting up a private touney I'll play then like. Had an okish day at poker, about ?100 up so hit the ?800 mark on Sky now. I would be on over a grand though I think had it not been for my horrendous football betting recently and a wee go on blackjack (MAHA) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merse Posted February 26, 2009 Author Share Posted February 26, 2009 FFS. Had AK spades a minute ago. Go to raise and all of a sudden it goes you skypoker login has expired and kicks me off. By the time I get back to the table my hand is folded and the board is AK9 and I see AJ taking down a big pot. Should have been mine. How gay is that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statto Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 For the 1000th post game, ?10 sounds good, what do people think of it being this Sunday if you want? Also, blind structure? Slow, fast? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Macaroons Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 I'll play then like. Had an okish day at poker, about ?100 up so hit the ?800 mark on Sky now. I would be on over a grand though I think had it not been for my horrendous football betting recently and a wee go on blackjack (MAHA) consistant wins good form....so why exactly did u bother going to work somewhere!!! I tend not to touch the casino games online but have a dabble in real casinos if im there. been too busy to sit down at Sky Poker yet, but will soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsmak Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Just back from Casino ?10 rebuy. Got 4th and ?200. SO not a bad night.. Sleepy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goonieref Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 FFS. Had AK spades a minute ago. Go to raise and all of a sudden it goes you skypoker login has expired and kicks me off. By the time I get back to the table my hand is folded and the board is AK9 and I see AJ taking down a big pot. Should have been mine. How gay is that! Forget about it, the deck is constantly shuffling so you would have not got that flop if you had raised. Also do you know if overseas players can play on skypoker as it sounds more lucrative than the grind of full tilt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merse Posted February 27, 2009 Author Share Posted February 27, 2009 Forget about it, the deck is constantly shuffling so you would have not got that flop if you had raised. Also do you know if overseas players can play on skypoker as it sounds more lucrative than the grind of full tilt? Really? So for the same hand the flop will be different depending on what happens before the flop? As far as I know there isn't any restrictions for overseas players but I don't really have a clue tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Forget about it, the deck is constantly shuffling so you would have not got that flop if you had raised. Also do you know if overseas players can play on skypoker as it sounds more lucrative than the grind of full tilt? Ive heard this aswell. The random generator is constantly working away, so even the difference of deciding if you should call or raise is enough time for it to be a completely different flop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsmak Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Does it make any difference? I am just happy that the cards are random. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goonieref Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Ive heard this aswell. The random generator is constantly working away, so even the difference of deciding if you should call or raise is enough time for it to be a completely different flop. Yeah the amount of time I hum and haw over making a call without the odds end up folding and flop a set or something, I always say that it would probably not have come because the button would have been clicked at a different point. Also the turn and river cards are shuffling all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merse Posted February 27, 2009 Author Share Posted February 27, 2009 Does it make any difference? I am just happy that the cards are random. Doesn't make any difference, just quite strange! I'm going to be playing later and be complaining that i clicked call too late and didn't get the flop I was meant to get! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Macaroons Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 For the 1000th post game, ?10 sounds good, what do people think of it being this Sunday if you want? Also, blind structure? Slow, fast? Im easy, 10 or 15 min blinds, I can do sunday night as well, If the other guys could post their thoughts on this we could collect them and have a game!! c'mon guys, chop chop...before the moment passes and post 2000 approaches! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Payton Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Im easy, 10 or 15 min blinds, I can do sunday night as well, If the other guys could post their thoughts on this we could collect them and have a game!! c'mon guys, chop chop...before the moment passes and post 2000 approaches! Yeah, Sunday night would work for me. I'd prefer 15 minute blinds and at least 5000 stacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Macaroons Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Just back from Casino ?10 rebuy. Got 4th and ?200. SO not a bad night.. Sleepy WINNER, NICE ONE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goonieref Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Does it make any difference? I am just happy that the cards are random. Well clearly it does make a difference when you consider d-mcg was really frustrated at the flop hitting him. Now he knows this he is less likely to get frustrated and go on potential tilt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statto Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 I was just playing a satellite on pokerstars for the LAPT (Latin-America-Poker-Tour). I had about 18K, blinds at 800/1600. I get QQ, a small stack goes all in and the big stack raises (8k more than initial raise), I re-raise another 5k all in, he takes about 5-6 seconds (a long time considering he has massive odds to call), I obviously like this, he turns 33, the small stack turned 99. There's no suck outs, I win the hand. The next hand, the former big stack (still quite big) pushes all in, clearly on tilt, he gets one call (9k) plus the BB who didn't have enough chips to fold. The other player that called him had called his chips off with 67!!! WTF does he think he is beating? The BB had T2 and the big stack had AJ and won the hand, he was back above me. A couple of hands later, I get AJ UTG, I have about 38K, I raise to 6K, blinds now 1k/2k. The big stack, who is now back above me because of that stupid call re-raises all in, I call knowing he will push with a lot worse than AJ, he has A7... and you guessed it, he hit a 7 I would have been on 70K+ if I had won the hand, I had him right where I wanted him, he was on tilt and had thousands of chips, I was playing top class poker, there was 3 hands that I lost when I went in in front in that tourney, I'm not bothered about that too much, it happens, I'm so annoyed at that other player that doubled the guy up when he had a 7 high, just why? If anyone wants to have a go at the LAPT, satellites are on just now on PS. $2.75 for a satellite to a $10R qualifier, for the LAPT in Uruguay in a couple of weeks. The first satellite has 5 min blinds, you start with a 500 chips stack, there are antes from the start, if you play in skypoker tourney's you will be used to the quick structure and pushing your chips in when you need to, what I noticed was a lot of the players were too conservitive with their chips. It's easy to qualify, then it's all about winning the $10 qualifier with about 150 players, not too much TBH, most tourneys on PS have 3,000-6,000 runners. If you want a poker holiday to Uruguay, give it a go. I'll hopefully be going for it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statto Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Let's get this organised tonight. I'll ask the questions, someone comes up with a suggestion and another agrees then it's done. Right; 1. Tomorrow night (Sunday), ?10+1, what time? 2. Starting chips? options are 1500, 2000, 3000 3. Blinds up every? - 3/6/10/12/15 minutes Done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Macaroons Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Let's get this organised tonight. I'll ask the questions, someone comes up with a suggestion and another agrees then it's done. Right; 1. Tomorrow night (Sunday), ?10+1, what time? 2. Starting chips? options are 1500, 2000, 3000 3. Blinds up every? - 3/6/10/12/15 minutes Done. my preferences would be ... 1) NEXT sunday (cant do this sunday, some of us need a wee bit notice!!) 8pm 2) 3000 chips 3) 12 min blinds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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