Daveandal Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Great counting Scott. As I said earlier its looking very unlikely we'll have any attendances under 14,000 this season with most games being well over 15,000. In terms if the on going stadium debate we are going to need a few seasons, lets say 4, where we are constantly going over 15,000 attendances for our small games, Hamilton etc, and nit having enough seats for games against Aberdeen, Dundee and Dundee Utd. For me that makes a solid business case that a 20,000 to 22,000 seater stadium is reasonable. In other words its up to us the fans to make it happen. One thing is certain though. I've nit been this excited about a season in years....COME ON HEARTS!! Sorry about the spelling.....bloody phone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisyboy7 Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Great counting Scott. As I said earlier its looking very unlikely we'll have any attendances under 14,000 this season with most games being well over 15,000. In terms if the on going stadium debate we are going to need a few seasons, lets say 4, where we are constantly going over 15,000 attendances for our small games, Hamilton etc, and nit having enough seats for games against Aberdeen, Dundee and Dundee Utd. For me that makes a solid business case that a 20,000 to 22,000 seater stadium is reasonable. In other words its up to us the fans to make it happen. One thing is certain though. I've nit been this excited about a season in years....COME ON HEARTS!! Sorry about the spelling.....bloody phone 20-22k stadium is a good start but we need space to expand like most clubs Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Jung Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Just spotted that Bradford City have sold 17,000 season tickets....not sure what this says about us?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Just spotted that Bradford City have sold 17,000 season tickets....not sure what this says about us?! I'm sure if we were selling season tickets at ?149 for adults we'd shift them pronto too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Jung Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 I'm sure if we were selling season tickets at ?149 for adults we'd shift them pronto too.Does that say something about competitive pricing in a hypothetical world where we have a larger stadium? There are people saying it shouldn't get much bigger however if pricing was involved how big should it be? Just asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Does that say something about competitive pricing in a hypothetical world where we have a larger stadium? There are people saying it shouldn't get much bigger however if pricing was involved how big should it be? Just asking. yes, pricing is a factor good point I believe there is scope with cheaper tickets - hard to do without losing money and (pause for open minds and some reflection) this is where tools like dynamic pricing and selective cheap ticketing comes in 20,000 at ?10 = ?200,000 15,000 at ?15 = ?225,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sac Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 I'm sure if we were selling season tickets at ?149 for adults we'd shift them pronto too. Could be a solution tho, reasonably priced tickets in a 22-25k capacity, would allow us to grow the number of ST holders (assuming steady improvement on and off the field) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alicante jambo Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Just spotted that Bradford City have sold 17,000 season tickets....not sure what this says about us?! NJ theyre season tickets are cheap as mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozi Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Hate to say that after 9 consecutive seasons I am not renewing this season, my wife is due our first child and I reluctantly agreed to forgo my ticket this year. Particularly gutting as watching this fine young team develop I honestly believe we are in for a special season, with some silverware coming back to Tynecastle.... Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Just spotted that Bradford City have sold 17,000 season tickets....not sure what this says about us?!Bradford has a greater population than Edinburgh and only one team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigC Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Bradford has a greater population than Edinburgh and only one team. Not as much money about though and they take rugby league a lot more seriously down there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Not as much money about though and they take rugby league a lot more seriously down there.Bradford Bulls average crowd was 6891 last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveandal Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 I make it.... 13,361 Season Tickets sold so far.......... slowing but still 13,500 possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hueyview Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 a 61 b 40 c 6 d 1 e 25 f 27 g 78 238 ========== h 74 j 6 80 ========== n1 7 n2 1 n3 84 p 13 q 8 r 8 s 14 t1 28 t2 6 t3 75 244 =========== v 17 w 4 x 12 y 18 z 21 72 =========== Total 634 Still selling a steady 10 a day or so 13,366 sold if 14,000 is taken as the agreed number on sale Sorry if this is very obvious, but which of the four stands above relate to the main stand. I bring visiting relatives from Ireland to the games during the festival and at Christmas, and am just trying to see if there is some numbers of seats left together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Sorry if this is very obvious, but which of the four stands above relate to the main stand. I bring visiting relatives from Ireland to the games during the festival and at Christmas, and am just trying to see if there is some numbers of seats left together. between n1 and t3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Just spotted that Bradford City have sold 17,000 season tickets....not sure what this says about us?! I had a wee look at their website. It appears they are counting flexi passes which for a fee of ?50 you can buy match day tickets for a tenner. They are counting these among their season ticket total in addition to kids free season tickets and adults ?149. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 This Bradford City caper is sounding less and less impressive with each post, likes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hueyview Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 between n1 and t3 cheers, i thoughtit was stand 1 or 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Bradford City have sold 17,000 due to very good deals for those tickets...?149 for adults and ?99 for kids. Seems to prove money is a huge factor in match attendances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSTR Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Just spotted that Bradford City have sold 17,000 season tickets....not sure what this says about us?! Cheaper than ours, the city is bigger than Edinburgh population wise, there is only one team and their stadium holds over 8,000 more people than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabienleclerq Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Cheaper than ours, the city is bigger than Edinburgh population wise, there is only one team and their stadium holds over 8,000 more people than us. City is bigger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnking123 Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Edinburgh has a bigger population overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Bradford Bulls average crowd was 6891 last season Similar size to h1b5 then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glottis Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Re stadium debate. I think it was soccernomics i read that teams who build a new purpose built stadium usually see an increase in attendance (if you build it, they will come) Middlesbrough new stadium 95 http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attnclub/midd.htm Huddersfield new stadium 94 http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attnclub/hudt.htm Reading new stadium 98 http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attnclub/read.htm I am wary of this though as English football has much more finance and exposure than scottish football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Edinburgh has a bigger population overall.I don't think it does. Bradford and its environs is something like 1.4m and the city is 520k plus. Both more than Edinburgh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 You can laugh but in a city with such a big population, the two professional clubs can't even sell 20,000 season tickets between them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 I don't think it does. Bradford and its environs is something like 1.4m and the city is 520k plus. Both more than Edinburgh. Bradford has a city population of 522.452 and Edinburgh 492.680 but that comes from Wiki so could be way off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 You can laugh but in a city with such a big population, the two professional clubs can't even sell 20,000 season tickets between them.Fair point but we have already sold 13400 and Hibs are close to 7000, still poor but Edinburgh is full of foreigners, immigrants and public school boys. Our support is just as much from West Lothian and east lothian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackney Hearts Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 You can laugh but in a city with such a big population, the two professional clubs can't even sell 20,000 season tickets between them. So what is the Number 1 sport in Edinburgh? Presumably there's some activity that draws bigger crowds than these which means Edinburgh isn't a 'football city'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 A bit off topic but as we are discussing it anyway, I wondered as both Bradford and Leeds are back to back is it sacrilege to support Leeds if you come from Bradford or vice versa.? Leeds were the most successful for the most part in that part of Yorkshire after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 So what is the Number 1 sport in Edinburgh? Presumably there's some activity that draws bigger crowds than these which means Edinburgh isn't a 'football city'? Armchair EPL in my experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester™ Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 So what is the Number 1 sport in Edinburgh? Presumably there's some activity that draws bigger crowds than these which means Edinburgh isn't a 'football city'?Its not a case of 'whats the number 1 sport' or a single activity which draws more. Thats a bit too simplistic. Over the last wee while, Edinburgh hasnt been great supporting their main sports teams: Hearts, Hibs, Capitals, Monarchs, Rugby (admittedly Monarchs are in Armadale). Why is that? Varying factors from population change to cost, with the latter a big factor for many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 So what is the Number 1 sport in Edinburgh? Presumably there's some activity that draws bigger crowds than these which means Edinburgh isn't a 'football city'? Well it sure ain't Rugby anyway as you could add up the crowds at Edinburgh Rugby and club level as well and they still wouldn't come to the total at Tynecastle on match day. If we played in a better league I would hazard a guess that our season ticket level would double but we are where we are and that won't change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cast No Shadow Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Fair point but we have already sold 13400 and Hibs are close to 7000, still poor but Edinburgh is full of foreigners, immigrants and public school boys. Our support is just as much from West Lothian and east lothian :rofl: :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Big danger for me is we start inviting 10k+ away supports again. Personally I hated that. Much more preferable to have them small in number and tucked away in a corner. Spot on! Less away fans = less vocal support for their team = less chance of swaying the referee = better chance of Hearts getting a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 :rofl: :rofl: Whats so funny ya freak show? Just you stick to boasting how you are too good for friendlies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Fair point but we have already sold 13400 and Hibs are close to 7000, still poor but Edinburgh is full of foreigners, immigrants and public school boys. Our support is just as much from West Lothian and east lothian Remember being at a shareholders meeting back in the Pieman days and someone said that the bulk of season ticket holders were from outside of the city, with Loanhead having the highest concentration. Places like Currie, Balerno, South Queensferry, Penicuik etc are full of Hearts fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Fair point but we have already sold 13400 and Hibs are close to 7000, still poor but Edinburgh is full of foreigners, immigrants and public school boys. Our support is just as much from West Lothian and east lothian Midlothian will have a heavy population of Hearts fans - Penicuik, Bonnyrigg, Gorebrige, Dalkeith etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Midlothian will have a heavy population of Hearts fans - Penicuik, Bonnyrigg, Gorebrige, Dalkeith etc.I know Broxburn Hearts have introduced membership cards as cant meet demand. My wee laddies footy team has more jambos than any other team which wouldnt have been the case when i wasyoung Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerry Jambo Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Midlothian will have a heavy population of Hearts fans - Penicuik, Bonnyrigg, Gorebrige, Dalkeith etc. Correct there's actually nae Hearts fans in Gorgie!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nixie Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 More than a fifth of the population of Scotland at the time? Don't think so somehow. True story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 I`ve heard it all now. "Edinburgh needs to become a football city"? There`s more Hearts fans from outside Edinburgh? It seems the Hearts support underestimate the Hearts support! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Paulo Sergio Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 The inner city is lettered with Hobo's, I always wondered where our fans came from I do know quite a few who claim to be fans yet never go to games, Budge needs to target them. We talk about potential, it's already here, they just need to be encouraged in until there hooked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 I`ve heard it all now. "Edinburgh needs to become a football city"? There`s more Hearts fans from outside Edinburgh? It seems the Hearts support underestimate the Hearts support! Yep, total Hibs mythology. Yes we have many fans in Mid/West/East Lothian, but we have loads in the city too. This sort of nonsense is usually allied to ridiculous redrawings of where idiot Hibs fans class the centre of town or the city boundaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Yep, total Hibs mythology. Yes we have many fans in Mid/West/East Lothian, but we have loads in the city too. This sort of nonsense is usually allied to ridiculous redrawings of where idiot Hibs fans class the centre of town or the city boundaries. I'm talking about Hearts and Hibs. Hibs are worse than us FFS. If the two clubs clear 20,000 season tickets between them for next season then that'll be an achievement. Shite figures in a city this size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Yep, total Hibs mythology. Yes we have many fans in Mid/West/East Lothian, but we have loads in the city too. This sort of nonsense is usually allied to ridiculous redrawings of where idiot Hibs fans class the centre of town or the city boundaries. i must have imagined all the supporters buses listed from Edinburgh when I was a nipper. Edinburgh has a pop of 492,000 , more than East/West and Midlothian combined. The Lothians, particularly West, is dripping with Old Firmers. There's Hearts fans from everywhere of course and I know we pull a good support from the Lothians , and not forgetting Fife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howdy Doody Jambo Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 I'm talking about Hearts and Hibs. Hibs are worse than us FFS. If the two clubs clear 20,000 season tickets between them for next season then that'll be an achievement. Shite figures in a city this size. I agree 100% x is Edinburgh actually a football city, a population around half a million Why is this, it's not a good ratio per head compared to other cities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Just spotted that Bradford City have sold 17,000 season tickets....not sure what this says about us?! This was a positive thread about our ST sales. Now everyone is talking about a crap support the two Edinburgh teams have. Well done you are an expert in the field of negativity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Hearts have strong support. Everywhere I go, mostly Edinburgh I meet Hearts fans some of whom live outside the city. We're in a good position and getting stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 I'm talking about Hearts and Hibs. Hibs are worse than us FFS. If the two clubs clear 20,000 season tickets between them for next season then that'll be an achievement. Shite figures in a city this size. I agree the figures are shite. I am just mentioning the oft battered out myth that there are more Hibs fans in the City of Edinburgh than Hearts fans. A myth I've heard trotted out by Hibs fans my whole life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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