Geoff Kilpatrick Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Any that might look at a Qb in the draft minus the colts. Bills Jets Dolphins Browns Jaguars Broncos Chiefs 49ers Seahawks Cardinals Given the daft contract the Bills gave to Fitzpatrick, could they afford Flynn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-Dizzle Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Any that might look at a Qb in the draft minus the colts. Bills Jets Dolphins Browns Jaguars Broncos Chiefs 49ers Seahawks Cardinals Don't agree on the ones in bold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 I think the Jags would definitely take another QB if they got the chance. Gabbert is horrendous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sterling Archer Posted January 1, 2012 Author Share Posted January 1, 2012 Given the daft contract the Bills gave to Fitzpatrick, could they afford Flynn? Forgot about that contract. I'm curious why dizzle doesn't think the others would take a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac Clarke Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 (edited) I'm on holiday at the moment so getting on the internet often is proving quite tricky. I'd say I'm open to trading Ben Tate for draft picks and/or WR's, depending on the offer. EDIT: I'll try and get back on the internet in a couple days to respond to any offers, cheers. Edited January 1, 2012 by JamboTaylor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sterling Archer Posted January 1, 2012 Author Share Posted January 1, 2012 I think the Jags would definitely take another QB if they got the chance. Gabbert is horrendous. Especially considering the new rookie deals mean you're not tied down like before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-Dizzle Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Forgot about that contract. I'm curious why dizzle doesn't think the others would take a look. Well, Bills has already been explained. I think the Jags would be better at looking at a vet QB to come in for a season or two and see if they can turn Gabbert around after his shite rookie year, not sure what the Gerrard situation was before he was released, but looking back you would say they should've kept him. Broncos have Tebow, we can argue how much the turn around was down to him but they were stacking up the Ws with him at QB. I think I'm right in saying various people involved with the Broncos have said this is the way they want to go forward, plus the fans have taken to him. They've also got Quinn as back-up, and I think he's still contracted for a couple of years. Smith has turned things around this season, seems like it's all down to Harbaugh's coaching that's lead to his improvement. Could be wrong on this one, but I think things clicked this season and I don't see why they'd change that. Cardinals spent a fair bit to bring in Kolb, I don't think you write him off straight away, Skelton seems to be doing alright just now. Don't you think they'd improve other areas and try to make things work with Kolb? Just don't see any of these teams spending starting QB money on Flynn, and that's what they'd need to pay because there are a fair few teams out there that can offer it. I also think Flynn is going to go somewhere that he can get that starting job commitment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sterling Archer Posted January 1, 2012 Author Share Posted January 1, 2012 Since we spoke about this. Found this: The qb franchise number is going to be really high. If they tag him and can't find a taker... Yeah isn't the franchise tag mean he has to be top 5 paid QB? I don't think even Rodgers is top 5 anymore. No way the Pack does this. #5. Brady, $13 mil #4. Vick, $14.4 mil #3. Big Ben, $14,75 mil #2. Peyton, $16 mil #1.. #1. Sanchez, $17.25 mil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sterling Archer Posted January 1, 2012 Author Share Posted January 1, 2012 Oh and I totally forgot about Washington. They're stupid enough to pay him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Surely they couldn't afford to pay Manning too if Sanchez is on a contract like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-Dizzle Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Redskins is a good shout. That Sanchez money... How does that even happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Grimes Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 I see its open season on ridiculous trade offers already.... My three 1st rounders & Jon Baldwin for Darren McFadden. Seriously?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sterling Archer Posted January 2, 2012 Author Share Posted January 2, 2012 I'll take Seahawks 1.05 for Flynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 I see its open season on ridiculous trade offers already.... My three 1st rounders & Jon Baldwin for Darren McFadden. Seriously?? I'm sorry if the offer upset you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-Dizzle Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 I'll take Seahawks 1.05 for Flynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 That Lions-Packers game was ridiculous, Flynn's got a lot of talent and I think Washington is a very good shout to go for him, seeing they'll be out of reach for Luck and Griffin. Awful performance from the Broncos today and Tebow was terrible. The playcalling is a joke and when they actually get Tebow to throw, he's only got two recievers to go for every time. Great stuff from the Chargers though and although the Broncos will get thumped in the play offs by the Steelers, at least they've finally got there again. Broncos have Tebow, we can argue how much the turn around was down to him but they were stacking up the Ws with him at QB. I think I'm right in saying various people involved with the Broncos have said this is the way they want to go forward, plus the fans have taken to him. They've also got Quinn as back-up, and I think he's still contracted for a couple of years. Quinn's contract is up at the end of the year and Tebow is the only one under contract. Wouldn't be surprised to see them re-sign Quinn for another year as he wouldn't get a start anywhere else. I think they'll probably give Tebow next season but through the draft and free agency, they need to get him help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-Dizzle Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 I'm sorry if the offer upset you Chuck Forsett in, might be the tipping point. :'> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Chuck Forsett in, might be the tipping point. :'> 9 touches for 12 yards for the dynamic back today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-Dizzle Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 9 touches for 12 yards for the dynamic back today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Grimes Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 I'm sorry if the offer upset you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Winner takes all tonight. Fancy the Giants big in this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sterling Archer Posted January 2, 2012 Author Share Posted January 2, 2012 If it was possible I'd expect both teams to throw it away at the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 If it was possible I'd expect both teams to throw it away at the end. Maybe they'll tie, missing 4 field goals each in overtime! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sterling Archer Posted January 2, 2012 Author Share Posted January 2, 2012 Looks like I was right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt.Speirs Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 QB killed my team this year. Three RBs in the top 18, WR top eight TE top four. really need 1 QB 2 WR and a young TE this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sterling Archer Posted January 2, 2012 Author Share Posted January 2, 2012 Gates has been sensational. Top 3 TE over the last 6 weeks of the season, with the emergence of Cook I'm looking to move one of them. As I said Scott all my Qbs are available. I think we've got a quite good setup that accurately reflects the real NFL, teams without Qbs will really struggle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-Dizzle Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Would be interested to know what you'd want for Freeman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sterling Archer Posted January 2, 2012 Author Share Posted January 2, 2012 I'm sure you would. I value him based on two seasons ago rather than last year. Depending on who declares I'd expect atleast a first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt.Speirs Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Gates has been sensational. Top 3 TE over the last 6 weeks of the season, with the emergence of Cook I'm looking to move one of them. As I said Scott all my Qbs are available. I think we've got a quite good setup that accurately reflects the real NFL, teams without Qbs will really struggle. With you on that one Donn regarding the Qbs. Problem was I was always playing one season fantasy games where QB were not the be all and end all. I think I will now be a mediocre mid div team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sterling Archer Posted January 2, 2012 Author Share Posted January 2, 2012 With you on that one Donn regarding the Qbs. Problem was I was always playing one season fantasy games where QB were not the be all and end all. I think I will now be a mediocre mid div team Cutlers been fine it's just his line and receivers have been terrible. It's easier to get depth and points at the other positions so it may just be a case of identifying a guy you want and going after him. Even if you have to sacrifice someone you like. As Qbs have the longest career getting a good one means you don't need to worry about it and can take all your flyers/draft picks on other positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 I'm sure you would. I value him based on two seasons ago rather than last year. Depending on who declares I'd expect atleast a first. At least a first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-Dizzle Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 I'm sure you would. I value him based on two seasons ago rather than last year. Depending on who declares I'd expect atleast a first. Not from me anyway. I like Freeman as a QB, but he's been shite this season. You might base his value on what he did two seasons ago, but anyone wanting to pick him up will be looking at how much of a shambles the Buccs will be next year. If they get their shit together, you've got a valuable QB, if they don't then I'd be as well sticking with Fitzpatrick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Not from me anyway. I like Freeman as a QB, but he's been shite this season. You might base his value on what he did two seasons ago, but anyone wanting to pick him up will be looking at how much of a shambles the Buccs will be next year. If they get their shit together, you've got a valuable QB, if they don't then I'd be as well sticking with Fitzpatrick. Even 2 years ago he only threw for 10 TD's with 18 interceptions. Granted he looked good last season but maybe he was flattering to deceive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sterling Archer Posted January 2, 2012 Author Share Posted January 2, 2012 (edited) Even 2 years ago he only threw for 10 TD's with 18 interceptions. Granted he looked good last season but maybe he was flattering to deceive No two years ago he threw for 25 tds and only 6 interceptions. You're thinking of his 9 game rookie season. I hadn't realised Mendenhall tore his ACL yesterday. Sore one. Eta I see we're talking about two different seasons. Edited January 2, 2012 by Ron Swanson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sterling Archer Posted January 2, 2012 Author Share Posted January 2, 2012 I'd be curious to see how you guys would rank QBs for dynasty. I can't see freeman being much lower than 12-15 and therefore a QB1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sterling Archer Posted January 2, 2012 Author Share Posted January 2, 2012 Ive just checked and despite his "terrible" season he finished QB17 (QB20 in avg points) which makes him essentially a QB1 for our league. Unless you assume he continues to get worse he's easily worth a first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Not exactly a surprise to see both the Rams and the Bucs sacked their coach, it was only a matter of time. Could only see the Colts or the Chargers doing the same out the rest but hopefully Norv will stick around. With the QB's, you probably do need one of the best to challenge as shown by our final this year. For me, Romo is probably only one of about two or three that could help me rebuild completely, if I got a great offer. On the other hand, it could set me back as I've not got a reliable backup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Rodgers Brees Newton Stafford Brady - 35 at the start of next season Rivers Ryan Vick Romo Eli Big Ben Bradford Schaub Fitzpatrick Freeman Cutler Dalton Peyton Manning Joe Flacco Mark Sanchez Tim Tebow Alex Smith Matt Flynn Jake Locker Carson Palmer Christian Ponder Kevin Kolb Matt Moore Everyone else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 I hadn't realised Mendenhall tore his ACL yesterday. Sore one. Yeah Damian Williams also damaged his ribs and Holmes spat the dummy out at the Jets. Hopefully Mendenhall will be ready to go at training camp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sterling Archer Posted January 2, 2012 Author Share Posted January 2, 2012 Rodgers Brees Newton Stafford Brady - 35 at the start of next season Rivers Ryan Vick Romo Eli Big Ben Bradford Schaub Fitzpatrick Freeman Cutler Dalton Peyton Manning Joe Flacco Mark Sanchez Tim Tebow Alex Smith Matt Flynn Jake Locker Carson Palmer Christian Ponder Kevin Kolb Matt Moore Everyone else While I don't quite agree I feel everyone down to Kolb is worth more or less a 1st in our league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 I'd be curious to see how you guys would rank QBs for dynasty. I can't see freeman being much lower than 12-15 and therefore a QB1. In no order, just going by the leagues quickly, ranking above him for me would be Brady Roethlisberger Manning Rivers Manning Romo Vick Rodgers Stafford Cutler Brees Ryan Newton Dalton That's 14 for definite, will go with the assumption that Peyton Manning will still be available for the next couple of years, although obviously that could change. Will include Dalton because he's got Green and they might upgrade even more with their offense with the extra draft picks they got from the Raiders. Almost included Schaub as well because he's helped out by having Andre Johnson but their run game takes away a lot of potential for points. After that it's quite difficult, I don't rate Flacco or Sanchez because they've had the recievers and not shown enough. Bradford could still be good but he needs a lot of help as he's not really had anyone to throw to in his time at the Rams. There's a few others where it's too early to tell. I'd probably say Freeman is around 16 or so, borderline starting QB in our league. Difficult to judge too because he's not got the big names around him in the offense. In fact looking at that list of the top 14, they've all got at least one or two top quality guys to throw to apart from Cutler. If he had good players around him, he would be better than quite a few of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 If anyone is interested in Titus Young, now might be a good time to bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sterling Archer Posted January 2, 2012 Author Share Posted January 2, 2012 If anyone is interested in Titus Young, now might be a good time to bid. :interesting: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt.Speirs Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Two Jets on the chopping block-- Jets WR Santonio Holmes and LB Bart Scott are both rumored to possibly be on their way out of town. Said one teammate on Holmes, He is a "cancer" and is like dealing with a "10 year old." As for Scott, sources have stated that he will definitely not be back with the team in 2012. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sterling Archer Posted January 2, 2012 Author Share Posted January 2, 2012 Back to QBs, you need to look at the rookie picks from last year. I know it's not exact as people rank differently but he's probably worth more than Qbs picked in the 1st last year, exc Newton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-Dizzle Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Back to QBs, you need to look at the rookie picks from last year. I know it's not exact as people rank differently but he's probably worth more than Qbs picked in the 1st last year, exc Newton I'd agree with that, but you'd want more than it's worth to me if I was to trade for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sterling Archer Posted January 2, 2012 Author Share Posted January 2, 2012 I'd agree with that, but you'd want more than it's worth to me if I was to trade for him. That's fair enough, just trying to explain my position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Two Jets on the chopping block-- Jets WR Santonio Holmes and LB Bart Scott are both rumored to possibly be on their way out of town. Said one teammate on Holmes, He is a "cancer" and is like dealing with a "10 year old." As for Scott, sources have stated that he will definitely not be back with the team in 2012. The Jets are run like a circus so it's not a surprise at all. It's quite funny that both the Ryan's haven't even made the play offs when they want as much attention as the players, especially with Rex so it's not a surprise that his players are throwing tantrums. One of the great things about the NFL is that even bringing in the big name players is a definite way to fail seeing as that it's all about a team effort, look at the Jets and the Eagles falling flat on their face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sterling Archer Posted January 2, 2012 Author Share Posted January 2, 2012 Apparently Polians just been shitcanned. Turner, schottenheimer, Caldwell all expected to go shortly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Ewing Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Bill and Chris Polian fired in indy, no word on caldwell yet but hopefully he will be gone by the end of the day aswell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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