Joe Savage leaves Hearts ( updated )

[JamboAl]

2 hours ago, kila said:

Who will the board go to for advice on a replacement DoF?

 

I fear Budge will have a say in this still... 

As far as I am aware she is still the Chairperson of the company.  It would be unusual therefore for her not to have a say.

[The Real Maroonblood]

2 hours ago, kila said:

Who will the board go to for advice on a replacement DoF?

 

I fear Budge will have a say in this still... 

She will probably seek Levein’s advice.

[EH11]

2 hours ago, Finlay James said:

I know Joe’ family.  Apparently there is nothing sinister in why he has left, it’s simply that he wants a break and a new challenge.

 

Thanks for sharing that. 

 

I'm intrigued to understand what's going on if he feels the need for a break.  Appreciate there could be personal reasons on his side, but I do wonder if there are politics at play.  Perhaps felt undermined, lack of ambition by the club, dynamic with the board / manager.  If you are feeling good in your role, you don't look to take a sabbatical. Something isn't quite right and that sense isn't helped by a lack of communication by the club.  

Edited August 30, 2024 by EH11

[Seymour M Hersh]

3 hours ago, Finlay James said:

I know Joe’ family.  Apparently there is nothing sinister in why he has left, it’s simply that he wants a break and a new challenge.

 

We heard about this at the end of May and as yet he has not popped up anywhere in a new job so I'd say that lends some credence to your post FJ. 

[JamboAl]

27 minutes ago, EH11 said:

 

Thanks for sharing that. 

 

I'm intrigued to understand what's going on if he feels the need for a break.  Appreciate there could be personal reasons on his side, but I do wonder if there are politics at play.  Perhaps felt undermined, lack of ambition by the club, dynamic with the board / manager.  If you are feeling good in your role, you don't look to take a sabbatical. Something isn't quite right and that sense isn't helped by a lack of communication by the club.  

Seems like you're looking for something negative.  The reason might be something personal to JS and I'm starting to think along these lines as little or nothing has been said from him or the club.

Edited August 30, 2024 by JamboAl

[The Tackle]

Still no communication from the club as to whether he’s being replaced. 
 

Naismith isn’t experienced enough to take on both roles

[kila]

1 hour ago, JamboAl said:

As far as I am aware she is still the Chairperson of the company.  It would be unusual therefore for her not to have a say.

 

I'm sure I read a quote from her a couple of years ago that she was stepping back from being involved in making football decisions, around the time McKinley replaced her as CEO.

 

I don't think she has a good track record for football decisions, and would hope she doesn't get involved or influence things.

[JamboAl]

6 minutes ago, kila said:

 

I'm sure I read a quote from her a couple of years ago that she was stepping back from being involved in making football decisions, around the time McKinley replaced her as CEO.

 

I don't think she has a good track record for football decisions, and would hope she doesn't get involved or influence things.

Your perception seems to be that she makes key decisions without listening to people.

Others take the view that she listens too much to other people *eg CL" and then proceeds without thinking.

[kila]

1 minute ago, JamboAl said:

Your perception seems to be that she makes key decisions without listening to people.

Others take the view that she listens too much to other people *eg CL" and then proceeds without thinking.

 

If it's true she overruled Savage and McKinley on appointing Naismith then what's your thoughts on that?

[JamboAl]

1 minute ago, kila said:

 

If it's true she overruled Savage and McKinley on appointing Naismith then what's your thoughts on that?

I would assume the Board deliberated and she then did as any Chairperson would do if that was the consensus

[Nerja Jambo]

44 minutes ago, The Tackle said:

Still no communication from the club as to whether he’s being replaced. 
 

Naismith isn’t experienced enough to take on both roles

This is the type of comms we should have from the club. Are we actually looking to employ a DoF ? Has the post been advertised? Have interviews taken place? Has an applicant been chosen and when should he/she start? That's nothing to do with the day to day running of the club, it's about communicating with the owners as to the progress in employing one of the most important roles at the club. 

[EH11]

51 minutes ago, JamboAl said:

Seems like you're looking for something negative.  The reason might be something personal to JS and I'm starting to think along these lines as little or nothing has been said from him or the club.

 

Yip, i did offer that it may well be something personal.  

 

It's easy to have a negative view with the current performances and deficiencies in recruitment.  Doesn't seem unreasonable to speculate that there may be some correlation between those things and Savage's exit. 

[JamboAl]

Just now, EH11 said:

 

Yip, i did offer that it may well be something personal.  

 

It's easy to have a negative view with the current performances and deficiencies in recruitment.  Doesn't seem unreasonable to speculate that there may be some correlation between those things and Savage's exit. 

I happen to think he was overrated anyway but that's another matter.

[kila]

10 minutes ago, JamboAl said:

I would assume the Board deliberated and she then did as any Chairperson would do if that was the consensus

Non-footballing board members overruling those with football experience seems to be the outcome. 

[Famous 1874]

Need to get a replacement in asap. Was rumoured at the start of the year that he was leaving! 
 

Surely we had a contingency plan. 

[Craig_]

4 hours ago, Finlay James said:

I know Joe’ family.  Apparently there is nothing sinister in why he has left, it’s simply that he wants a break and a new challenge.

 

Cheers for sharing, good to know.

 

Although hasn't stopped some posters trying to imply there was something more malicious behind his departure.

[Japan Jambo]

1 hour ago, The Tackle said:

Still no communication from the club as to whether he’s being replaced. 
 

Naismith isn’t experienced enough to take on either role

 

fixed that for you...

[Smithian]

I'm not ready to throw Naismith overboard. His good work over multiple months last season earned him faith over these few games.

 

However, it is ridiculous Joe Savage wasn't promptly replaced. I'd feel better about this situation if the organization was fully staffed.

[RustyRightPeg]

A new venture for Joe

 

 

 

[Des Lynam]

3 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said:

A new venture for Joe

 

 

 

 

That is just corporate wank speech. 

 

Good luck to him. 

 

 

[Gorgierools]

5 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said:

A new venture for Joe

 

 

 

No idea what any of that means

[BackOfTheNet]

22 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said:

A new venture for Joe

 

 

 

Didn’t realise he had a stutter…

[Star Lizard]

17 minutes ago, Gorgierools said:

No idea what any of that means

Constancy agency is what I took from that .  Networking clients in to mutually beneficial partnerships 

[Lovecraft]

An agent for agents.

 

Genius.

 

 

[The Treasurer]

44 minutes ago, Gorgierools said:

No idea what any of that means

Glad to hear I'm not the only one 

[Mark_Mywords]

A middle middle man?  ffs

[GavK1012]

The guys entitled to do what he wants, without the knuckle draggers even starting having a go at the man...Good luck, life's about taking opportunities when they present...

 

We all move on 😁

[kila]

3 minutes ago, Mark_Mywords said:

A middle middle man?  ffs

 

Some folk like to use a mortgage broker, this sounds a similar role in football. I'm sure he'll get some work.

[Nerja Jambo]

Good luck to the guy. I wish him every success.

[Bill Sikes]

So he fancied going self employed, can't knock him for that.

 

Good luck Joe.

[Australis]

Wrong thread.

 

Edited October 5, 2024 by Australis

[RustyRightPeg]

17 minutes ago, Bull's-eye said:

So he fancied going self employed, can't knock him for that.

 

Good luck Joe.

Some have found a way…

[Don Dannie]

He missed out the H after FT 🤪

[Jambo-Fox]

2 hours ago, RustyRightPeg said:

A new venture for Joe

 

 

 

A middle man between the middle men! Another pig with their snout in the trough, taking a % cut and taking money out of the game!

Good luck to him, wish him well!

[FERRY HEARTS]

Has Joe been ahead of the game ?

seen the Tony Bloom deal on horizon and thinks this is way forward to making easy cash in game 

[DesertDawg]

Sounds a bit desperate to me.  The "announcement" sounds straight out of one of those "self-help" books that line the bottom shelf of libraries in the non-fiction section.

 

The only way that this might work is in the lower leagues where cash is scarce.

[OTT]

I don't really understand what his new firm will do. But good luck to him. 

 

Suspect we'll see him back as Sporting Director somewhere in the next few years. 

[Chairman of the Bored]

FT FT

 

Finding Tatties. Feeding Tatties.

 

 

[joondalupjambo]

I cannot work out from that blurb who he hands his invoices to.

[Ricardo Quaresma]

Has anyone pondered when this 'initiative' began in earnest?

 

[Section Q]

8 hours ago, Star Lizard said:

Constancy agency is what I took from that .  Networking clients in to mutually beneficial partnerships 

Isn't that what an agent is for..?

[WASTREL]

1 hour ago, Ricardo Quaresma said:

Has anyone pondered when this 'initiative' began in earnest?

 

I suspect he has been "brokering" personal deals for a while now 

[Phil D. Corners]

Maybe he meets players in car park before they get in to the club.

 

 

 

 

[Sarah O]

Sounds a bit Johnson from Peep Show.

[Jambo dans les Pyrenees]

I hope Andy Irving contacts him as his first perspective client, and offers him 350 quid as payment.

[Taffin]

I liked Savage and wish him well but this is just money for nothing and taking it out of the game. Modern football spivvery imo.

[Lone Striker]

While it sounds a  bit weird  to us fans, he'll have seen how things work behind the scenes regarding agents, players,  contract negotiations, sports science, rehab, training requirements, sponsorship etc  - and may have felt that relationships  could be made more efficient with a sports consultancy  middle-man that isn't affiliated to any one agency, club or sport.

 

Interesting to see if FT FT take off  .

 

  Does an equivalent service exist in England ? I'd have thought England is where lots of football clubs have  money to burn on stuff like this.

 

Rather strange logo on his LinkedIn page  - sort of Monty Python & the Holy Grail  thing that Terry Gilliam might have done 😏

 

A te pro te  =  from thee, for thee

 

 

 

Edited October 6, 2024 by Lone Striker

[KennyMcP]

3 hours ago, Taffin said:

I liked Savage and wish him well but this is just money for nothing and taking it out of the game. Modern football spivvery imo.

Yeah, from, the little I’ve read on this - and I’ll accept I’m wrong if others can shed light - but seems to me that Joe’s spotted an opportunity to weasel even more cash out of football, and is exploiting it.

[Jambo On Fire]

23 minutes ago, Lone Striker said:

While it sounds a  bit weird  to us fans, he'll have seen how things work behind the scenes regarding agents, players,  contract negotiations, sports science, rehab, training requirements, sponsorship etc  - and may have felt that relationships  could be made more efficient with a sports consultancy  middle-man that isn't affiliated to any one agency, club or sport.

 

Interesting to see if FT FT take off  .

 

  Does an equivalent service exist in England ? I'd have thought England is where lots of football clubs have  money to burn on stuff like this.

 

Rather strange logo on his LinkedIn page  - sort of Monty Python & the Holy Grail  thing that Terry Gilliam might have done 😏

 

A te pro te  =  from thee, for thee

 

 

Guess that explains the FT FT then!!

 

[Nookie Bear]

 

Looks like he’s found a way to cream off some money from the game without answering to management or being judged on results. 
 

Get that snout in the trough Joseph 👍🏻👍🏻