Thomaso Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 1 hour ago, i8hibsh said: Dhanda is exactly the klind of signing we should be making imo. I just hope he does not become 'Shanda'. What position will he fit into the team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticJambo Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 2 minutes ago, wavydavy said: I wonder if this is Naismith's influence on Savage relating to more players who can hit the ground running (hopefully) rather than have to wait on a "project player" to produce the goods. It is often difficult for players to come half way round the world and expect them to settle into a different culture, environment not to mention language barriers. So long as there is decent talent in and around us why go round the globe? Could well be, simple pragmatism. I'd take it. I also think it's the future, not just for Hearts but Scottish football in general, to start re-investing in our own product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leginten Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 7 minutes ago, Le Chat said: Anyone watching that and who doesn't have at least a semi thinking of him in maroon needs help. Massive rager here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Just now, leginten said: Massive rager here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By The Light.. Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 19 minutes ago, DalryJambo said: £50k to 100k...plus maybe a youth player on loan to help keep their squad size up. call it 75K then no-brainer for me but suppose could be the difference in Ross County relegation and he is cup tied Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 8 minutes ago, Thomaso said: What position will he fit into the team? Might be decent in goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 36 minutes ago, damo said: Was at the game and don't remember half this stuff. Guy looks a massive upgrade on what we have...been crying out for this type of attacking midfielder. Got to admit at the game I was cursing him for celebrating right in front of us. But if he’s our player now I’ll cheer that sort of cockiness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Sanchez Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 20k since he's cup tied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnking123 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 11 minutes ago, Thomaso said: What position will he fit into the team? Think Naismith would prefer to play 4231. He can play 10 or each side of the 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locky Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 3 hours ago, Famous 1874 said: All happening now! Dhanda pre-contract confirmed. Now in talks with James Penrice from Livi, also on a pre contract. My guess is that we’ll look to cash in on Cochrane in the summer. Assuming he makes it clear that he won’t sign a new contract. 3 hours ago, pandasaur said: Cochrane's probably my favourite player at the club but would say that this is the window to sell as he won't sign a new deal I suspect. We've been good for him and he's been good for us, would be pleased to see him get a decent move down south. Only makes sense if we can get Penrice in to replace, who I don't think is as good but has been a standout for Livi. Wondering if a Cochrane move is in the works if the pre contract rumour is now officially being reported. From what I've heard, Cochrane is loving it here and doesn't want to leave. The club are wanting to cash in on him while his stock is high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clear few Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 16 minutes ago, Le Chat said: Anyone watching that and who doesn't have at least a semi thinking of him in maroon needs help. This 👆👏😚 strange how much you (I) miss of opposing players good play when you only pay attention to the good or bad from our own team. If he plays consistently like this with our better players he could be a 💎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 1 minute ago, Clear few said: This 👆👏😚 strange how much you (I) miss of opposing players good play when you only pay attention to the good or bad from our own team. If he plays consistently like this with our better players he could be a 💎 There’s also the opposite when one of our players isn’t rated and is getting slagged off on here, then you talk to a fan of another club and they rave about them being good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Just now, Clear few said: This 👆👏😚 strange how much you (I) miss of opposing players good play when you only pay attention to the good or bad from our own team. If he plays consistently like this with our better players he could be a 💎 Had it last season when Fiorentina played at Tynecastle. Was watching Jovic too much (as he was a £50m ex-Real Madrid player) as well as us doing badly that I never really noticed Amrabat till people on here were raving about him at the world cup saying how amazing he was against us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert. Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 21 minutes ago, Thomaso said: What position will he fit into the team? Back up to Clark and Gordon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 17 minutes ago, Tazio said: Got to admit at the game I was cursing him for celebrating right in front of us. But if he’s our player now I’ll cheer that sort of cockiness. He was just practicing 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllyjamboDerbyshire Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 50 minutes ago, damo said: Was at the game and don't remember half this stuff. Guy looks a massive upgrade on what we have...been crying out for this type of attacking midfielder. While his goal was a screamer, we've already got players who can do the same, but it was his pass that led to their 1st goal that impressed me most, sent through the proverbial eye of a needle and weighted perfectly. His play throughout the game was quality and he was always ready to run with the ball rather than just pass it on to someone in no better position than he was. I've seen compilations of players from multiple games that were far less impressive that that collection from one game, and this time we do know the quality of the opposition he was facing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Positive news day , great to see us signing players who know the league and done well ! Not as much settling in required and ready to hit the ground running Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 I assume ( if true ) this won't be officially confirmed until Ross County are happy with the news being out there. 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmcjambo Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 1 minute ago, AllyjamboDerbyshire said: While his goal was a screamer, we've already got players who can do the same, but it was his pass that led to their 1st goal that impressed me most, sent through the proverbial eye of a needle and weighted perfectly. His play throughout the game was quality and he was always ready to run with the ball rather than just pass it on to someone in no better position than he was. I've seen compilations of players from multiple games that were far less impressive that that collection from one game, and this time we do know the quality of the opposition he was facing. But can he also pass backwards and fit in well to our style of play? Only jesting - agree completly and must admit and never really clocked the quality of that pass at the time, and he turned defence into attack beuatifully in that move. Exciting to see what he can bring to the team. I think Naisy knows what he wants/needs to imrove this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 22 minutes ago, Rick Sanchez said: 20k since he's cup tied. Some Ross County fans suggesting a loan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingu Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 1 minute ago, davemclaren said: I assume ( if true ) this won't be officially confirmed until Ross County are happy with the news being out there. 🤷♂️ That's a good question. The contract is between us and the player, so I don't think there is any legal reason why we'd need County to sign off on us announcing. But, out of courtesy, and assuming they are not being unreasonable about it, you'd think we'd try to agree it with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chillidigits Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 1 hour ago, BackOfTheNet said: it would be less than 4 months, but I actually think it wouldn’t be a bad idea on paper. My main reluctance would be having Adams as his coach for those 4 months. Also wouldn’t help him to assimilate as much up there as it would down here. If I was Dhanda I'd give Hearts the money to buy me rather than spend another 4 months with that clown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CostaJambo Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 1 hour ago, Japan Jambo said: 6 months at Ross County to sweeten Danda's early release would give County firepower and Tagawa a chance to shine/settle in. i like that idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 3 minutes ago, davemclaren said: I assume ( if true ) this won't be officially confirmed until Ross County are happy with the news being out there. 🤷♂️ You’d imagine that would be the courteous thing to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section s heart Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 26 minutes ago, wavydavy said: I wonder if this is Naismith's influence on Savage relating to more players who can hit the ground running (hopefully) rather than have to wait on a "project player" to produce the goods. It is often difficult for players to come half way round the world and expect them to settle into a different culture, environment not to mention language barriers. So long as there is decent talent in and around us why go round the globe? Think Savage said he was going to focus less on foreign markets. Good move, thinking back to JJ's days where we picked up talent in other Scottish teams, who are more likely to hit the ground running. Whatever we think about the "project" word, there's no doubt it takes time for overseas (even international caps) or youth players to fully settle abd reach the level we need. Imo there are still a good number in and around our first XI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 6 minutes ago, davemclaren said: I assume ( if true ) this won't be officially confirmed until Ross County are happy with the news being out there. 🤷♂️ I don't think they really have a say in the matter, do they? Sky Sports and several other outlets are reporting it as 'has signed a pre-contract' rather than reportedly going to. Just a matter of time now I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 1 minute ago, Gmcjambo said: But can he also pass backwards and fit in well to our style of play? Only jesting - agree completly and must admit and never really clocked the quality of that pass at the time, and he turned defence into attack beuatifully in that move. Exciting to see what he can bring to the team. I think Naisy knows what he wants/needs to imrove this team. You've got to think him and Barrie both on the park will be brilliant to watch. If we can get runners off the ball, so inverting fullbacks plus the likes of Vargas, Oda, Forrest maybe even Tagawa and young Wilson constantly looking to make little runs in behind, Dhanda and Baz will find them. Having McKay back and Dhanda on the books could actually help get the best out of all these guys. And actually thinking about it, Hof too. He plays really well in tight spaces. And Tait! Yep, quite excited by next season's team, I have to say. Hope Shanks stays obviously and if he does, we could REALLY be on to something. But even if we sell (to Saudi I hope!), I think we're going to have a helluva team. Bit of luck in keeping down to a normal amount of smaller injuries and we're golden! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomuzz Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Has dhanda actually been reported as having signed anywhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 1 minute ago, section s heart said: Think Savage said he was going to focus less on foreign markets. Good move, thinking back to JJ's days where we picked up talent in other Scottish teams, who are more likely to hit the ground running. Whatever we think about the "project" word, there's no doubt it takes time for overseas (even international caps) or youth players to fully settle abd reach the level we need. Imo there are still a good number in and around our first XI. That's what I picked up from the night with the coaches, and AGM. Savage more or less admitted he'd made a few mistakes in those 'alternate' markets, perhaps thinking longer term on what a player could be and could provide us on the sales front, rather than the player actually hitting the ground running in the here and now. The proof is in black and white though, the majority of our best signings in recent times have been domestic based...: - Clark - Kent - Beni - Forrest - Grant (coming good now) - Cochrane - Simms Those who have 'failed' generally have come from abroad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chillidigits Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 45 minutes ago, Le Chat said: Anyone watching that and who doesn't have at least a semi thinking of him in maroon needs help. Female supporters may struggle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 2 minutes ago, Jambomuzz said: Has dhanda actually been reported as having signed anywhere? Yes, almost all the media outlets are saying it's done, and the focus is now on whether it can get done this month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffy Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 County have a game tomorrow so I imagine Adams will get asked at his press conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 3 minutes ago, Jambomuzz said: Has dhanda actually been reported as having signed anywhere? Just now, RustyRightPeg said: Yes, almost all the media outlets are saying it's done, and the focus is now on whether it can get done this month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niemi’s gloves Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 2 minutes ago, Jambomuzz said: Has dhanda actually been reported as having signed anywhere? The BBC website has been prominently running the pre-contract as fact for the last hour, with Hearts said to be trying to get him in now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford donald Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 2 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: That's what I picked up from the night with the coaches, and AGM. Savage more or less admitted he'd made a few mistakes in those 'alternate' markets, perhaps thinking longer term on what a player could be and could provide us on the sales front, rather than the player actually hitting the ground running in the here and now. The proof is in black and white though, the majority of our best signings in recent times have been domestic based...: - Clark - Kent - Beni - Forrest - Grant (coming good now) - Cochrane - Simms Those who have 'failed' generally have come from abroad. This.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 2 minutes ago, section s heart said: Think Savage said he was going to focus less on foreign markets. Good move, thinking back to JJ's days where we picked up talent in other Scottish teams, who are more likely to hit the ground running. Whatever we think about the "project" word, there's no doubt it takes time for overseas (even international caps) or youth players to fully settle abd reach the level we need. Imo there are still a good number in and around our first XI. BUt I think the point is, or the theory anyway, is when they DO reach their level, they'll be better than what we can find locally. I kinda get that. Do both, is the point! Vargas has the potential to be a better player than Forrest. Perhaps so does Oda. Having Allan in the squad doing really well, giving us a reliable option allows us to have boys like that who will do a job for us while they get up to speed, but bloody hell what a player we could have on our hands if it all clicks right for them too. Otherwise, we're unlikely ever to sign a guy who is instantly woah!!! We need to build them. From within, but also in bringing in potential. I don't see it as "project". It's just one of our markets and done well, with the correct contingency and continuity planning, it's low risk but potentially very high reward. I think the injuries we've had the last 2 years has highlighted for some the approach being risky, but for me, that's just bad luck. Not the club's fault McKay being injured has meant Kenny needed to be thrown in. Rowles and Neilson last season were thrown to the lions at times too due to our lack of options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feedthefox Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Cochrane has been solid and is a likeable sort to have within the team but I think he's overrated, if we got decent money for him I'd consider that a good outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section s heart Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 5 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: That's what I picked up from the night with the coaches, and AGM. Savage more or less admitted he'd made a few mistakes in those 'alternate' markets, perhaps thinking longer term on what a player could be and could provide us on the sales front, rather than the player actually hitting the ground running in the here and now. The proof is in black and white though, the majority of our best signings in recent times have been domestic based...: - Clark - Kent - Beni - Forrest - Grant (coming good now) - Cochrane - Simms Those who have 'failed' generally have come from abroad. Don't forget Shanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmcjambo Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 4 minutes ago, TheBigO said: You've got to think him and Barrie both on the park will be brilliant to watch. If we can get runners off the ball, so inverting fullbacks plus the likes of Vargas, Oda, Forrest maybe even Tagawa and young Wilson constantly looking to make little runs in behind, Dhanda and Baz will find them. Having McKay back and Dhanda on the books could actually help get the best out of all these guys. And actually thinking about it, Hof too. He plays really well in tight spaces. And Tait! Yep, quite excited by next season's team, I have to say. Hope Shanks stays obviously and if he does, we could REALLY be on to something. But even if we sell (to Saudi I hope!), I think we're going to have a helluva team. Bit of luck in keeping down to a normal amount of smaller injuries and we're golden! Yeah agree with this too, and your previous comments re Tagawa (I think you were the poster), . I feel for the guy as we've not adjusting to his style of play, or had the quality that players like him (plays on the shoulder, looking to run in behind), need to thrive. We've really missed McKay's through balls and too often, are a team that likes to play the ball to feet. I get he's not taken his chances well so far, but I don't think he's a bad player and I suspect he will be given a chance in the team Naisy is trying to build. Time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Fredrickson Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Dhanda looks comfortable using either foot which seems rare in the modern game. Looking forward to him becoming a hero to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 6 minutes ago, biffy said: County have a game tomorrow so I imagine Adams will get asked at his press conference. A meltdown of the highest order would be great. Doesn't seem to take much these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 2 minutes ago, section s heart said: Don't forget Shanks! Well aye, but he was a foreign import 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnking123 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 We are signing players close to their prime or played a lot of games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chillidigits Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 27 minutes ago, jamboinglasgow said: Had it last season when Fiorentina played at Tynecastle. Was watching Jovic too much (as he was a £50m ex-Real Madrid player) as well as us doing badly that I never really noticed Amrabat till people on here were raving about him at the world cup saying how amazing he was against us. I certainly didn't need to wait for the World Cup. Guy ran the show against us. Not hit the ground running at Man Utd so would certainly take him on loan for a few weeks . Couldn't afford him for any longer than that ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeDiouf Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 5 minutes ago, Gmcjambo said: Yeah agree with this too, and your previous comments re Tagawa (I think you were the poster), . I feel for the guy as we've not adjusting to his style of play, or had the quality that players like him (plays on the shoulder, looking to run in behind), need to thrive. We've really missed McKay's through balls and too often, are a team that likes to play the ball to feet. I get he's not taken his chances well so far, but I don't think he's a bad player and I suspect he will be given a chance in the team Naisy is trying to build. Time will tell. Ginelly previously, and now Vargas, are managing to thrive just fine, receiving service from the same players who apparently aren't up to putting it where Tagawa wants it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 4 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: That's what I picked up from the night with the coaches, and AGM. Savage more or less admitted he'd made a few mistakes in those 'alternate' markets, perhaps thinking longer term on what a player could be and could provide us on the sales front, rather than the player actually hitting the ground running in the here and now. The proof is in black and white though, the majority of our best signings in recent times have been domestic based...: - Clark - Kent - Beni - Forrest - Grant (coming good now) - Cochrane - Simms Those who have 'failed' generally have come from abroad. Nat, Devlin, Rowles have all been successes, albeit Nat has been up and down at times and Rowles took a confidence knock. Vargas is starting to really show it. Oda, despite and injury and a formation change not quite suiting him, has scored 4 in his last 14 appearances for us (many from the bench). The kid is doing fine. Only Kio and Kuol really stick out as having not worked imo from the "overseas" market. Obv the jury very much out on Tagawa but long contract. But I could raise you Snoddy, Woodburn, Lowry, perhaps even Humps or Sibbick (to some, tho I like Toby) from "domestic" market which have been less succesful. All recruitment is different. As long as the club get the mix right, its cool. People need to chill about it, is probably my thing. Our results on the pitch, minus a 2 month implosion, have been by and large excellent for 2.5 years now. That doesn't point to poor recrtuitment. It just doesn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 6 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: A meltdown of the highest order would be great. Doesn't seem to take much these days. 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger Rudi Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Dhanda and Penrice! Dexter and possibly Fraser. Good to see we've moved on a fair bit from season 2016/17!! Signings like Sammon, Martin, Sowah, Bikey and that fecal left back!! Rare ass or sumfin he was called. Add Kastaneer and Damour, christ the list of keech was long. How dire were we back then? The transformation in a relatively short period has been remarkable. Our club is in a good place........ in stark contrast to our Leith neighbours! Well run both on and off the park. Long may it continue. Hope we can consolidate ourselves as the 3rd force for the foreseeable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 11 minutes ago, TheBigO said: BUt I think the point is, or the theory anyway, is when they DO reach their level, they'll be better than what we can find locally. I kinda get that. Do both, is the point! Vargas has the potential to be a better player than Forrest. Perhaps so does Oda. Having Allan in the squad doing really well, giving us a reliable option allows us to have boys like that who will do a job for us while they get up to speed, but bloody hell what a player we could have on our hands if it all clicks right for them too. Otherwise, we're unlikely ever to sign a guy who is instantly woah!!! We need to build them. From within, but also in bringing in potential. I don't see it as "project". It's just one of our markets and done well, with the correct contingency and continuity planning, it's low risk but potentially very high reward. I think the injuries we've had the last 2 years has highlighted for some the approach being risky, but for me, that's just bad luck. Not the club's fault McKay being injured has meant Kenny needed to be thrown in. Rowles and Neilson last season were thrown to the lions at times too due to our lack of options. Just means in practice getting used to Scottish/ British football. Vargas is getting there, Tagawa still struggling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDJ87 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 27 minutes ago, Pingu said: That's a good question. The contract is between us and the player, so I don't think there is any legal reason why we'd need County to sign off on us announcing. But, out of courtesy, and assuming they are not being unreasonable about it, you'd think we'd try to agree it with them. Rangers or Souttar didn't notify Hearts before announcing it. Tbh I hope we've done the same but only because it would piss off that welt Adams and their dickhead chairman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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