Scott980612 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 18 minutes ago, Rick Sanchez said: Clark Offiah Kent Rowles Kingsley Devlin Cochrane Boyce Shankland McKay Tagawa I like this 👍🏻 One game vs Partick thistle - but I think Offiah offers another threat from set piece and will be just as good if not better defender than Atkinson so on that , I’d go with him Cochrane did reasonably well when he moved into that position vs Rosenborg ( denholm did decent aswell, grew into game but Cochrane edges it for me ) Oda was annoynmous vs Rosenborg so woudn’t start for me - McKay as much can blow hot/cold has bags of quality to unlock any defence. Tagawa looks very quick over a 10 yard burst , could be a real threat and nuisance for PAOK to deal with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sub4TiddlerMurray Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 8 minutes ago, Scott980612 said: I like this 👍🏻 One game vs Partick thistle - but I think Offiah offers another threat from set piece and will be just as good if not better defender than Atkinson so on that , I’d go with him Cochrane did reasonably well when he moved into that position vs Rosenborg ( denholm did decent aswell, grew into game but Cochrane edges it for me ) Oda was annoynmous vs Rosenborg so woudn’t start for me - McKay as much can blow hot/cold has bags of quality to unlock any defence. Tagawa looks very quick over a 10 yard burst , could be a real threat and nuisance for PAOK to deal with Offiah said post-match that his goal was his first in professional football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RENE Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 57 minutes ago, We_are_the_Hearts said: This will be the team I concur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RENE Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 41 minutes ago, davemclaren said: Looks a more solid defender than Atkinson. He didn't really have to deal with anything defensively against the Jags. Can't drop Natty after display last Thursday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky jamboa Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 hour ago, DC_92 said: I doubt anyone on here watches them regularly, but I don't think the difference between AEK and PAOK is the same as us and Celtic. AEK have won 2 titles this century and PAOK 1. AEK have won 5 Greek cups in that time and PAOK 6. Not that a game from 17 years ago is too relevant anyway, but I'd say they are similarly sized clubs, with AEK a bit bigger. Anyway, I'm making an inference based on 1) their spending power, 2) their European performances over the last few years relative to ours, and 3) their squad profile (individual Transfermarkt values mean little by themselves, but squad values generally paint a pretty accurate picture in my experience). The order of home and away games and the likely temperature over there make things a bit more difficult as well. My opinion is we'll need to be much better than we were against Rosenborg and produce two of our best performances in years to get through. Doable, but difficult. Fair enough. Definitely need to be on our game on Thursday to take a lead over there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Just now, RENE said: He didn't really have to deal with anything defensively against the Jags. Can't drop Natty after display last Thursday You can, but I agree there are risks involved in that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
db211833 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, Sub4TiddlerMurray said: Offiah said post-match that his goal was his first in professional football. Did he not say it was his first headed goal rather than any goal? I might be wrong. I was amazed as it was an outstanding finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
db211833 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, RENE said: He didn't really have to deal with anything defensively against the Jags. Can't drop Natty after display last Thursday I agree, would be really harsh on him as he has been one of our best players in all the games he has played this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky jamboa Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 I liked the Kingsley and Cochrane combo v Rosenburg so makes sense to stick with that. Gives us a bit of solidity down the left side but they've both got an attacking threat also. Allows us to fit 2 of our better players into the team. Not sure if Haring will be available. If so, I'd stick him in beside Devlin for his experience and composure over Denholm, who gave the ball away a couple of times last week when he was the last midfielder. Got plenty pace to bring on after an hour or so if we're needing a goal and they start to tire. I'm going 3-1 us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Quaresma Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Sorry if posted, Offiah and Vargas both on UEFA Squad list now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sub4TiddlerMurray Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 36 minutes ago, db211833 said: Did he not say it was his first headed goal rather than any goal? I might be wrong. I was amazed as it was an outstanding finish. I thought he said it was his first goal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19/05/2012 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 See they are signing a Brazilian midfielder on loan for the season from Lazio Marcos Antonio and they are paying 900k for a years loan. That shows what we are up against Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Quaresma Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, 19/05/2012 said: See they are signing a Brazilian midfielder on loan for the season from Lazio Marcos Antonio and they are paying 900k for a years loan. That shows what we are up against That seems a wee bit concerning, but he isn't on their list yet They also have baba, their ghanian defender, suspended for the Tynecastle tussle They seem almost as barmy as romanov was with their signings, almost - Edited August 21, 2023 by Ricardo Quaresma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oda be a JT Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 17 minutes ago, Ricardo Quaresma said: Sorry if posted, Offiah and Vargas both on UEFA Squad list now! Excellent 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
db211833 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 16 minutes ago, Sub4TiddlerMurray said: I thought he said it was his first goal I never heard it directly. This is what I read. https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/odel-offiah-reveals-where-his-debut-hearts-goal-ranks-compared-to-his-epl-debut-for-brighton-and-hove-albion-4262009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookieboy Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 31 minutes ago, Sub4TiddlerMurray said: I thought he said it was his first goal he did . his first senior goal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Who came off the squad list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Haring and Grant not on the list FWICS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Lambretta Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 55 minutes ago, Ricardo Quaresma said: Sorry if posted, Offiah and Vargas both on UEFA Squad list now! So who do we prefer at Right back over the 2 games against PAOK? Atkinson or Offiah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, Italian Lambretta said: So who do we prefer at Right back over the 2 games against PAOK? Atkinson or Offiah Atkinson for me, he’s played well the end of last season and the start of this one. Odel looks a real find but not out under any real pressure yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, Italian Lambretta said: So who do we prefer at Right back over the 2 games against PAOK? Atkinson or Offiah Naismith has so many options for this game. I think Atkinson will get the nod for experience but if he ****s up then Offiah will likely be the RB going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Atkinson being pied would be the harshest of the harsh. Offiah has only played once and against modest opposition. Don't see how Atkinson could be omitted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FerryJambo81 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Think RB is Natty's to lose. Only fair to be honest. Re their £900k loan, different pennies to our world Sure read somewhere they have some issues with their owner being Russian, sanctions, money etc. Maybe they have to go down this route? Pure conjecture on my part. €9 mil in through player sales, spent €1.45 mil so far it would appear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FerryJambo81 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Victorian said: Atkinson being pied would be the harshest of the harsh. Offiah has only played once and against modest opposition. Don't see how Atkinson could be omitted. Spot on! Extra points for 'pied' 👏😂 Edited August 21, 2023 by FerryJambo81 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Sanchez Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Naismith has said different players for different situations. Let's say the PAOK left winger/forward is a brick shit house like Nouble...I'd be wanting Chariots on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Predicting a team becoming a fools game. So many options its almost embarrassing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCant Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 hour ago, RENE said: He didn't really have to deal with anything defensively against the Jags. Can't drop Natty after display last Thursday No room for sentiment here. You pick the best player for the position and the team set up Offiah. The only thing we don’t know is consistency. Was that the best he’ll be ? Can he perform like that against good opponents? Has he got more ? I thought he was superb but it’s against Partick we’re judging him. Atkinson. Improved quite a bit under new management. Consistently good going forward. Flawed going backwards and struggles vs wide pace It’s a hard call and tough on Atkinson but I’d pick Offiah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Quaresma Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, Rick Sanchez said: Naismith has said different players for different situations. Let's say the PAOK left winger/forward is a brick shit house like Nouble...I'd be wanting Chariots on khaled narey and zivkovic are their right wingers Their suspended defender is a left back, baba, who chelsea signed for about £20M years ago, then hoored him out on loan to ever shitter, but still decent clubs, then launched him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie2004 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Live on BBC Scotland on Thursday, Hobos live on Wednesday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Quaresma Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Where were the partick team that nearly scudded rangers at ibrox? I was expecting them on Sunday, but bitter psychological blow with the OG Was that team there though, how good were we actually? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxfee Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Natty v offiah is an interesting one. On limited showing, offiah looks solid in defence but also really useful at corners (in attack). Natty good at crossing and has some speed for attacking and tracking back. Natty more experience. 🤷🏼♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Is Haring still out with injury? I think I would start Nieuwenhof next to Devlin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Lambretta Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, Led Tasso said: Is Haring still out with injury? I think I would start Nieuwenhof next to Devlin. What about Sibbick and Devlin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCant Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, Italian Lambretta said: What about Sibbick and Devlin? If Beni isn’t fit, and I can’t believe he would be, it’s between Sibbick and Denholm to partner Devlin for me. Denholm struggled a bit at this level last week and Sibbick has been there and done it, albeit not in the DM role. I’d pick Sibbick. He’s got pace in his locker so that swings it for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettigrewsstylist Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 6 feet in air, with 3 pirouttes anytime anyone touches them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_92 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 I get the feeling Sibbick in midfield was a bit of a trial ahead of the PAOK games to see if he could slot into the Haring role. I'm expecting the midfield to be McKay, Sibbick, Devlin and Cochrane, with Boyce off Shankland up front. I actually think it's slightly unfortunate Grant seems to be on the way out at this point, because I think having midfielders who can take the ball in tight areas, turn into space to make a pass are usually more useful in this kind of game than chucking defenders in there. Defenders in midfield often just invite more pressure because they're not able to keep possession as well. Hoping Nieuwenhof is ready to step up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newton51 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 No haring or grant in squad https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaconferenceleague/match/2039061--hearts-vs-paok/lineups/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearts00 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Haring’s luck with injuries is just incredibly bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo92 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Samatta their main target man is a doubt. Unsure how we will line up, it appears defensively they are have some question marks but offensively they are strong so will be interesting to see how we set our stall out. Maybe a similar formation without our full backs moving into midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 (edited) Piece of piss. 3-0 Hearts. ** Edit - just saw last season was the first they've finished outside the Greek top two since 2016. **** it. 4-0 Hearts** Edited August 22, 2023 by Norm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregzy2k7 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 5 hours ago, Newton51 said: No haring or grant in squad https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaconferenceleague/match/2039061--hearts-vs-paok/lineups/ Can only assume Grant is on his way out of the club and Haring is still injured? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregzy2k7 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Not completely against playing the same team that played against rosenborg tbh, quite liked the Kingsley/Cochrane combo. Is Oda fit though ? Maybe start Vargas if not ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 11 hours ago, Scott980612 said: I like this 👍🏻 One game vs Partick thistle - but I think Offiah offers another threat from set piece and will be just as good if not better defender than Atkinson so on that , I’d go with him Cochrane did reasonably well when he moved into that position vs Rosenborg ( denholm did decent aswell, grew into game but Cochrane edges it for me ) Oda was annoynmous vs Rosenborg so woudn’t start for me - McKay as much can blow hot/cold has bags of quality to unlock any defence. Tagawa looks very quick over a 10 yard burst , could be a real threat and nuisance for PAOK to deal with Did Oda not hit the post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go for it 1308 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 21 hours ago, wheatfieldtosheffield said: Good point - yes, maybe one day. Not yet though. I really hope your hero puts 3 past your fat goalie on Wednesday night 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 1 hour ago, GinRummy said: Did Oda not hit the post? He was also totally clattered by one of their players and never looked the same after that. He never took on their left back that was booked. It may even have been that assault he was booked for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 8 hours ago, Newton51 said: No haring or grant in squad https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaconferenceleague/match/2039061--hearts-vs-paok/lineups/ Craig in the squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 3 hours ago, gregzy2k7 said: Not completely against playing the same team that played against rosenborg tbh, quite liked the Kingsley/Cochrane combo. Is Oda fit though ? Maybe start Vargas if not ? Team will be very similar imo. I have a feeling Sibbick might appear in midfield to replace Denholm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portable Badger Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 11 minutes ago, Lovecraft said: Craig in the squad. To meet the 'Club produced/academy' UEFA requirements I believe. I had the same initial thought though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAndy Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 I don't think we can go to Greece without a lead so I will take any win. 2+ goals would be amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaShango Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 12 hours ago, Italian Lambretta said: What about Sibbick and Devlin? After Sunday I never want to see Sibbick in midfield again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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