kingantti1874 Posted May 24, 2023 Author Share Posted May 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, Agentjambo said: It’s all about beating Hibs,for a vast majority of fans that’s enough….never mind being able to beat anyone else. you’ve still not come up with a viable alternative. john Kennedy Stephen Robinson Paul Lambert 3-5-2 wilder Gary Monk Dwight Yorke None of the above presumably ! who are we going for ? That we could actually get or afford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam11 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 I think he will get it. Speaks well, clear signs he is implementing a style of play, and has been involved in the planning for next season. Results have been mixed, but a combination of players not being good enough and individual mistakes have let us down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted May 24, 2023 Author Share Posted May 24, 2023 1 minute ago, davemclaren said: Decent result tonight. Despite everyone exploding I've gone from thinking he was just an interim appointment to actually warming to him given the job for a season. Lose on Saturday though and he has no chance I reckon as the board won't be that brave to appoint someone who has lost to Hibs twice in a short period. agreed Dave . I think it would be a mistake if we don’t but I agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Just now, kingantti1874 said: you’ve still not come up with a viable alternative. john Kennedy Stephen Robinson Paul Lambert 3-5-2 wilder Gary Monk Dwight Yorke None of the above presumably ! who are we going for ? That we could actually get or afford I’m not the hearts board. If your happy with Naismith good for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Christ…if Neilson had won 2 from his last 7 you’d all have his head on a stick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LochcarronJambo Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 TBH , It was a breath of fresh air tonite watching Hearts in control at Ibrox for large parts of first half, despite some horrendous decisions by Beaton, slip by Hill was unfortunate as we deservedly would have gone in 1-0 up, then shocker from Sibbick who had been good up to then, was a real blow, but we kept on trying to be positive & whilst not as good as first half we kept at it & eventually got the goal we deserved-Naismith’s set up & tactics were spot on, albeit the 2 mistakes cost us- but been pleased with Naismith mostly……pity about St Liedown not coming close tonite then Celtic throwing it at Easter Road Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky jamboa Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 I think it would be nuts not to give Naismith the job after the last 5 games (the first hibs game isn't on him). 2 great results and performances v Ross Co and Aberdeen. 2 very good performances v the old firm, taking a point at Ibrox. 2 stupid goals to give away cost us more tonight. Dubious refereeing in both games didnt help either. Poor first 60 mins or so v St Mirren but kept going for it and salvaged a point despite being down to 10 men. The final game v hibs shouldn't define whether he gets the job or not. I've seen enough in him that he can take us forward with his philosophy. He's a winner and knows what he's doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts1975 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, davemclaren said: Decent result tonight. Despite everyone exploding I've gone from thinking he was just an interim appointment to actually warming to him given the job for a season. Lose on Saturday though and he has no chance I reckon as the board won't be that brave to appoint someone who has lost to Hibs twice in a short period. You make a good point there Dave and one that is being completely missed Im sure the board dont need to give out some lengthy contract with guarantees on pay offs, etc and if it doesnt work out and at the EOS Its a simple sit down conversation to say that we would like to give him a chance but we would like to see what he can do and over a full season and dependant on how we do, we can then look to extend at the end of next season. That way we wouldnt get shafted financially of it didnt work out Im sure Naismith would be ameniable to that as well. There is ways to make this work. If we arent 100% sure on offering him a 4 year contract, but are being honest and saying that the signs are encouraging, but we need to see more, there is nothing wrong with that. If we bring in a new manager they will more than likely want a long term contract so the risk will be even greater than we have with Naismith Yes, Sat is massive and for the reasons that you said. I hope he at least gets a chance, even if it is a short term extension, and to prove that he can take us forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Sanchez Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 All these people scoffing at Naismith do know there's a very good chance he'll get the job eh? You talk like there's zero chance but I think you'll be disappointed. I'd prefer someone else personally but I've came to terms with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted May 24, 2023 Author Share Posted May 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Agentjambo said: I’m not the hearts board. If you’re happy with Naismith good for you. you must have some favourites.? But you won’t say ! becuase in your head you’re playing fantasy manager. Dreaming of names you know we have no possibility of hiring. we are about the 40th biggest club in the U.K. by turnover, about the 150th biggest in Europe by turnover. There is no manager we can hire who isn’t a gamble in some way. I’ve seen enough from Naismith to know I like the way it’s going and I HOPE he could transpire to be a top manager / coach and I’m happy to give him that opportunity. I guarantee you will not be happy with anyone we could realistically. So prepare to be disappointed no matter what Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: you must have some favourites.? But you won’t say ! becuase in your head you’re playing fantasy manager. Dreaming of names you know we have no possibility of hiring. we are about the 40th biggest club in the U.K. by turnover, about the 150th biggest in Europe by turnover. There is no manager we can hire who isn’t a gamble in some way. I’ve seen enough from Naismith to know I like the way it’s going and I HOPE he could transpire to be a top manager / coach and I’m happy to give him that opportunity. I guarantee you will not be happy with anyone we could realistically. So prepare to be disappointed no matter what Yay…good old disappointment.Ingrained into the majority of hearts fans.Sad really,no dreams,no ambitions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertDawg Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 15 minutes ago, liam11 said: I think he will get it. Speaks well, clear signs he is implementing a style of play, and has been involved in the planning for next season. Results have been mixed, but a combination of players not being good enough and individual mistakes have let us down And picking up a squad that couldn't win for weeks isn't easy. 👀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted May 24, 2023 Author Share Posted May 24, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Agentjambo said: Yay…good old disappointment.Ingrained into the majority of hearts fans.Sad really,no dreams,no ambitions. of course we do. We just aren’t thick enough to dream of hiring fantasy managers or signing players then actually go as far as measure the club against unachievable outcomes. its ****ing moronic. Are you a child? ps: still not a a single suggestion from you. Tells its own story. Edited May 24, 2023 by kingantti1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Reynolds Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Still naw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tackle Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Calling Morelos a fu*king prick sealed it for me, 3 year contract on the table tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Just now, The Tackle said: Calling Morelos a fu*king prick sealed it for me, 3 year contract on the table tomorrow 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny Factor Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 12 minutes ago, Agentjambo said: Christ…if Neilson had won 2 from his last 7 you’d all have his head on a stick! Neilson won 2 of his last NINE. Neilson won those 2 with his own players. Naismith has equalled or bettered the results against the same teams of Neilson's nine(that we've had the chance to play against.... with NEILSON's players! Not even comparable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tackle Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 13 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: you must have some favourites.? But you won’t say ! becuase in your head you’re playing fantasy manager. Dreaming of names you know we have no possibility of hiring. we are about the 40th biggest club in the U.K. by turnover, about the 150th biggest in Europe by turnover. There is no manager we can hire who isn’t a gamble in some way. I’ve seen enough from Naismith to know I like the way it’s going and I HOPE he could transpire to be a top manager / coach and I’m happy to give him that opportunity. I guarantee you will not be happy with anyone we could realistically. So prepare to be disappointed no matter what Saved me from posting. My thoughts exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgierulesapply88 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 'Hearts shouldn't be in this position.' Steven Naismith bemoans European downfall after Rangers draw at Ibrox | Edinburgh News (scotsman.com) And he's right. So very right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungalow Bill Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 I like Naismith’s energy, win against Hibs and I’d be happy with him getting the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 7 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: of course we do. We just aren’t thick enough to dream of hiring fantasy managers or signing players then actually go as far as measure the club against unachievable outcomes. its ****ing moronic. Are you a child? ps: still not a a single suggestion from you. Tells its own story. your pissing in the wind trying a debate with him/her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 I like him too. I think had he got the gig earlier we’d have finished 3rd. No issue with him getting the gig if he beats Hibs. Otherwise, we should look elsewhere. A hearts manager that can’t beat Hibs isn’t much use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 The best thing about Naismith is he ****ing hates the way Neilson managed us. He can barely hide his disdain any time he speaks. He knows the guy was a disaster and has cost us millions and he's holding his tongue not to just come out and totally destroy him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron78 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, Professor Frink said: Neilson won 2 of his last NINE. Neilson won those 2 with his own players. Naismith has equalled or bettered the results against the same teams of Neilson's nine(that we've had the chance to play against.... with NEILSON's players! Not even comparable. Spot on. Also Naismith is dealing with games against the top 6 whereas Neilsons team at the end were sh*tting the bed against Kilmarnock. What is Neilsons record in games after the split out of interest? 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Just now, Luckies1874 said: The best thing about Naismith is he ****ing hates the way Neilson managed us. He can barely hide his disdain any time he speaks. He knows the guy was a disaster and has cost us millions and he's holding his tongue not to just come out and totally destroy him. yep. It’s simmering that’s for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 35 minutes ago, Agentjambo said: It’s all about beating Hibs,for a vast majority of fans that’s enough….never mind being able to beat anyone else. It’s hard to see any Hearts manager surviving long if he doesn’t surely? Im not saying it’s the be all and end all but we don’t win much. 3 cups in my 35+ years of watching hearts…If we couldn’t regularly cuff them it would be miserable times. Id like us to be much more successful and never worry about Hibs but it’s where we are. It’s what we are no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted May 24, 2023 Author Share Posted May 24, 2023 1 minute ago, 1971fozzy said: your pissing in the wind trying a debate with him/her. Yup dunno why I bother, some of the folk on this board are in another galaxy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 I guess it doesn’t really matter now. Not a huge amount to be excited about next season anyway. Got much bigger concerns than who our manager is. What a shite centenary season it looks like being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 31 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: of course we do. We just aren’t thick enough to dream of hiring fantasy managers or signing players then actually go as far as measure the club against unachievable outcomes. its ****ing moronic. Are you a child? ps: still not a a single suggestion from you. Tells its own story. You tell me our budget and I will tell you who we might be able to afford. The fact that you are the only one slinging insults around and not capable of an adult discussion says it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts1975 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 41 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: you must have some favourites.? But you won’t say ! becuase in your head you’re playing fantasy manager. Dreaming of names you know we have no possibility of hiring. we are about the 40th biggest club in the U.K. by turnover, about the 150th biggest in Europe by turnover. There is no manager we can hire who isn’t a gamble in some way. I’ve seen enough from Naismith to know I like the way it’s going and I HOPE he could transpire to be a top manager / coach and I’m happy to give him that opportunity. I guarantee you will not be happy with anyone we could realistically. So prepare to be disappointed no matter what Hallelujah Great post and spot on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon simpson Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 looking forward to the game on Saturday ,and Naisy getting the managers job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo61 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 59 minutes ago, Agentjambo said: It’s true…”if he beats Hibs give it to him” Dearie dearie me indeed. Smith for Oda ffs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 27 minutes ago, Luckies1874 said: The best thing about Naismith is he ****ing hates the way Neilson managed us. He can barely hide his disdain any time he speaks. He knows the guy was a disaster and has cost us millions and he's holding his tongue not to just come out and totally destroy him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go for it 1308 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 37 minutes ago, davemclaren said: 😄 Calling him a fat ******* sealed it for me🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego10 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Personally I've seen enough inprovement, especially as he's so hamstrung by a lack of squad options, to think I'd be happy with him getting the job if we win on Saturday. Maybe that would he a risk, but he's got a clear style and we're trying to actually win games. His subs haven't always been what they could, but it's not his fault we've.got so few good options on midfield. I get why folk wouldn't want him, but for me he's got the potential to be a very good manager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paris 84 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 10 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: He’s been about. He’s a winner. Determined wee *****. Wee shitehouse. Proddy. Ticks all the boxes for me😐🇱🇻 What an absolute balloon, he’s a proddy!! What the actual ****? In my opinion, if our moderators don’t stomp all over you then what’s the point in their existence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 9 minutes ago, The Tackle said: Agreed up until the proddy nonsense, this bullshit needs to stop. My wife is catholic Sorry man I was just kidding😂 I have bad the kaffliks in my family now too. I even have pals that are believe it or not… I’ve had a couple🍻 Im kidding bud sorry😂👍🏼 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo61 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 58 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: you’ve still not come up with a viable alternative. john Kennedy Stephen Robinson Paul Lambert 3-5-2 wilder Gary Monk Dwight Yorke None of the above presumably ! who are we going for ? That we could actually get or afford Smith for Oda just fecked him and rightly so! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 15 minutes ago, Tom Hardy’s Dug said: I guess it doesn’t really matter now. Not a huge amount to be excited about next season anyway. Got much bigger concerns than who our manager is. What a shite centenary season it looks like being. Better than 1974 though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arry Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 He’s shown enough for me to give him the gig (unless we plan on getting some real high profile manager from outwith Scotland). He’s got the team playing nice football and I’m sure he recognises what needs to be done with defence and midfield. His after match comments are also spot on so give him a year rolling contract, less of a financial risk than compensation and three year contract for Celtic back up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertonian_II Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 49 minutes ago, gordon simpson said: looking forward to the game on Saturday ,and Naisy getting the managers job Me too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertonian_II Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 45 minutes ago, Jambo61 said: Smith for Oda just fecked him and rightly so! Did it🤔 must've missed the bit where we equalised... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Mugabe Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 It’s all but certain he will get the job regardless of result on Saturday. I don’t think Naismith should be appointed and that we should go and push the boat out with an external managerial appointment who needs to oversee an important summer transfer window, but you can tell when they float stories like John Kennedy that they are tempering expectations to appoint Naismith. Naismith may well go on to be a decent manager but I’d prefer we weren’t used as a place for a young manager to learn his trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 I was almost there in the first half today. Storming performance, in their teeth, winding up Morelos, all good. But the second half was so bad and the adjustments far too late, and the subs just on the weird side. Again, Naismith has done well to revive the team spirit and get some fight. But Beale made adjustments late in the first half and we got overrun. After the game I was thinking on it and thought, yeah, Naismith is plenty good to get us fourth or fifth next season. If he gets the job I'll back him enthusiastically. But I just think we can do better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokHearts Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Rocky jamboa said: He's a winner and knows what he's doing. This. 👆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Bongo 1874 said: Deluded, Levein is his hero like Robbie,easy get out lets blame the German that was at club 3 months that gave us his wage to help club. And blame it all on him. Racists that's what they are. No way would the say that about Robbie or Levein, They are as bad as the media were. Fecking Racists. Oh aye. Racists. Anti-German bias everywhere. Any Hearts manager that goes on a run of barely getting any points against bottom feeding teams needs sacked. Same for Neilson, Stendel, and Levein. The only Hearts manager that ever had an excuse good enough for those kinds of runs was Gary Locke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merseyjambo Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Who do people consider a ‘top class manager’ that would come to Hearts. Guys like Knutsen or the Polish lad, who are being touted for bigger jobs than ours. Managers in the 2nd tier in England and a decent few in the 3rd tier are already earning more than we can offer. Which leaves Callum Davidson, Tommy Wright or someone like Robinson. Someone like Danny Crowley who has been sacked by Huddersfield and Pompey A complete unknown of a foreign coach. Take your pick people because that’s our options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 What are people watching to dis Naismith? He’s got us playing good football and went to ibrox and stood up to the Huns. He’s instilled some pride in a failing side and improved several players that some of us had all but written off. Why anyone wouldn’t want to see what he could do after a transfer window and a pre season is beyond me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Give Naismith a chance. And boost that chance by replacing Savage. Had enough of the self-publicist non-achievers at Hearts. If we're going down the road of a rookie manager maybe we could have someone who has previously been a success in managing recruitment and that's not Savage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 39 minutes ago, merseyjambo said: Who do people consider a ‘top class manager’ that would come to Hearts. Guys like Knutsen or the Polish lad, who are being touted for bigger jobs than ours. Managers in the 2nd tier in England and a decent few in the 3rd tier are already earning more than we can offer. Which leaves Callum Davidson, Tommy Wright or someone like Robinson. Someone like Danny Crowley who has been sacked by Huddersfield and Pompey A complete unknown of a foreign coach. Take your pick people because that’s our options. Unless you're on the board or at Hearts you don't know who's expressed an interest. That said, failure to finish third just made us a lot less attractive for next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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