Pasquale for King Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 18 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: You can laugh but I suspect what goes on in the countryside doesn't really effect you? Yeah I live in town so they can do what they want? It affects all of us when a programme about climate change isnt broadcast by the tax payer funded BBC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Dawnrazor said: Who and when what? My point was that the BBC should be run outwith party political realms. What labour folk, Greg Dyke the only one i can think of. We agree there shouldn’t be any political influence or interference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Pasquale for King said: Yeah I live in town so they can do what they want? It affects all of us when a programme about climate change isnt broadcast by the tax payer funded BBC. Is it about climate change? Have you seen it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Pasquale for King said: We agree there shouldn’t be any political influence or interference. We agree there shouldn't be any political influence or interference, but there is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 50 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: Definitely. But when a highly paid, high profile person uses his social media to post controversial stuff, then it's fair to think that there's an interior motive. Ulterior, he doesn’t like the Torys. Sugar/Clarkson/Neil all tweeted political stuff but none that criticised the Tories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 23 minutes ago, Footballfirst said: The right wing group Restore Trust (linked to 55 Tufton Street) attempted to takeover the National Trust late last year. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/nov/06/right-leaning-group-fails-to-wrest-control-of-national-trust-from-political-takeover I see, who knew the RSPB was so interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 11 minutes ago, Footballfirst said: The right wing group Restore Trust (linked to 55 Tufton Street) attempted to takeover the National Trust late last year. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/nov/06/right-leaning-group-fails-to-wrest-control-of-national-trust-from-political-takeover There does seem to be a growing backlash against organisations who promote tolerance of minorities, inclusiveness, eco-friendly policies, etc. Not sure if "right-wing" is an appropriate description of them - in the same way that "left-wing" is not a fair way of describing the organisations they're angry at. Its more like intolerance versus tolerance. Slightly off-topic (and I can't find the link), but there was a disturbing story online today about the worsening homeland threats in the U.S. by "right-wing" groups who seem to be targetting all kinds of attacks on infrastructure like power stations, roads, railways, airports etc - as part of their dedication to the concept of "accelerationism", which they believe is the quickest way to destroy the pillars of current society and rebuild them according to their own white supremacist and authoritarian beliefs. Scary stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: Is it about climate change? Have you seen it? Nobody has but thats what’s being reported, destroying nature for economic purposes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 10 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: Who and when what? My point was that the BBC should be run outwith party political realms. No. Your point seems to be that folk are only urging an end to right-wing influence at the BBC, not all political influence. Which no-one on here, as far as I can see, has argued. You're attempting to counter an argument that you've created yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: We agree there shouldn't be any political influence or interference, but there is. At least that gives us something to argue about even when we agree 🤔? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Hello, good evening, and bollocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Just now, Pasquale for King said: Nobody has but thats what’s being reported, destroying nature for economic purposes. Like SNH and the RSPB claiming planting trees increases carbon capture when they know the scientific results show the opposite? That sort of thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 33 minutes ago, south morocco said: Jezus. 😳 Don’t bring him up ffs 😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 minute ago, redjambo said: No. Your point seems to be that folk are only urging an end to right-wing influence at the BBC, not all political influence. Which no-one on here, as far as I can see, has argued. You're attempting to counter an argument that you've created yourself. I think you've picked me up wrong, I want a BBC free from right and left influence, which isn't happening. Where have I counterd my argument? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter McGavin Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 29 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: Yes I have, but it seems on here that the opinion is that anything or anybody right of left should have any influence over the BBC, if it's to be "outwith political influence" that can't be right, can it? I’m not entirely sure I’m following the point you’re trying to make. Most on here just seem to be baffled by the quite obvious right wing interference in the BBC, and would prefer it to be completely impartial, as it’s dangerous territory if that isn’t the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 8 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: I think you've picked me up wrong, I want a BBC free from right and left influence, which isn't happening. Where have I counterd my argument? Glad to hear it, DR. When you commented (my emboldening) "Yes I have, but it seems on here that the opinion is that anything or anybody right of left should have any influence over the BBC, if it's to be "outwith political influence" that can't be right, can it?", you were implying that those on here were only opposing the influence of those right of left. I haven't seen that argument put forward at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 46 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: There's bound to be loads of Tories infiltrating everything seeing as they are the governing party in the UK almost all the time Unfortunately you are correct, the RSPB etc. The BBC is different though and the threat of cancelling the licence fee is making them toe the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Just now, Shooter McGavin said: I’m not entirely sure I’m following the point you’re trying to make. Most on here just seem to be baffled by the quite obvious right wing interference in the BBC, and would prefer it to be completely impartial, as it’s dangerous territory if that isn’t the case. I'm obviously not getting my point across! I want the BBC to be outwith any political influence, left or right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Dawnrazor said: I'm obviously not getting my point across! I want the BBC to be outwith any political influence, left or right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wrinkly Ninja Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: I'm obviously not getting my point across! I want the BBC to be outwith any political influence, left or right. Bloody liberal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 19 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: Like SNH and the RSPB claiming planting trees increases carbon capture when they know the scientific results show the opposite? That sort of thing? From what I can gather planting trees helps, doesnt cure, but cutting them down releases the CO2 back into the atmosphere. So you need to plant more than you cut down. https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200521-planting-trees-doesnt-always-help-with-climate-change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Wrinkly Ninja said: Bloody liberal 😆👍🏽👏🏾 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 minute ago, redjambo said: Glad to hear it, DR. When you commented (my emboldening) "Yes I have, but it seems on here that the opinion is that anything or anybody right of left should have any influence over the BBC, if it's to be "outwith political influence" that can't be right, can it?", you were implying that those on here were only opposing the influence of those right of left. I haven't seen that argument put forward at all. It seems to me that some on here are arguing against any right wing influence on the BBC, but ignore the left, anti landowner and farming bias shown by some programs on the BBC, like Chris Pakham calling people who shoot and farm as "psychopats". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 37 minutes ago, Costanza said: In a strong field, Dorries has to be the most stupid and lacking in self awareness of all MPs. Another of Boris babes 🤮 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Pasquale for King said: From what I can gather planting trees helps, doesnt cure, but cutting them down releases the CO2 back into the atmosphere. So you need to plant more than you cut down. https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200521-planting-trees-doesnt-always-help-with-climate-change Research has shown that planting trees on heather moorland reduces carbon capture and increases the release of carbon due to trees trying out the peat, this is fairly well known but ignored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, The Wrinkly Ninja said: Bloody liberal How dare you assume my......my......shut up right.....FREEEEEDOM!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 39 minutes ago, Costanza said: In a strong field, Dorries has to be the most stupid and lacking in self awareness of all MPs. This is an example of how the impartiality and equal covering of all parties and opinion during elections can now be destroyed by people like Dorres and Rees Mogg having platforms to promote Conservative views on television. Social media has already changed the perimeters of equal exposure. Having said that, surely only like minded people, to them, would be the only ones to tune in to watch them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Commentators have said they’re on strike too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 12 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: Research has shown that planting trees on heather moorland reduces carbon capture and increases the release of carbon due to trees trying out the peat, this is fairly well known but ignored. Ok thanks for the info, that link said the government are encouraging tree planting. I’m sure they paid farmers to cut them down before which caused flooding problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Commentators have said they’re on strike too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Commentators have said they’re on strike too. The Barbra Streisand effect in full flow, I see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Nucky Thompson said: There's bound to be loads of Tories infiltrating everything seeing as they are the governing party in the UK almost all the time Which makes the apparent control that the left wing have over so many aspects of life all the more impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: It seems to me that some on here are arguing against any right wing influence on the BBC, but ignore the left, anti landowner and farming bias shown by some programs on the BBC, like Chris Pakham calling people who shoot and farm as "psychopats". Chris Packham? I don't see any suggestion of him being into lefty politics in any way. In fact, in an interview with the Telegraph he advocated human population control. What makes you say he's on the left? Edited March 10, 2023 by Smithee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: I mean, I could live with presenterless and commentatorless football highlights, although that's not really the point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, redjambo said: The Barbra Streisand effect in full flow, I see. Had to google that Red, hilarious 😆. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Yay! Now the UK punters get to endure the pain of Jim fecking Beglin as an analyst in the commentary box! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Camera men next? Or do they use Sky folk 🤔? Edited March 10, 2023 by Pasquale for King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 This is all obviously a plot hatched by the left-wing management in charge of the BBC in cahoots with the Labour party in order to undermine the Conservatives. It was arranged that Lineker would tweet what he did and that his bosses at the BBC would then ask him to step back so that a furore would be kicked up about an immigration policy that was only designed in the first place to be caring and humane. They're all in on it, the Trotskyist BBC management, woke Labour Party HQ, the presenters, the commentators... We need to stand firm in order to prevent this attempted left-wing coup against our democratically elected government! ... Coming to a right wing conspiracy theory rumour mill near you soon. Memes will be supplied on request. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, redjambo said: This is all obviously a plot hatched by the left-wing management in charge of the BBC in cahoots with the Labour party in order to undermine the Conservatives. It was arranged that Lineker would tweet what he did and that his bosses at the BBC would then ask him to step back so that a furore would be kicked up about an immigration policy that was only designed in the first place to be caring and humane. They're all in on it, the Trotskyist BBC management, woke Labour Party HQ, the presenters, the commentators... We need to stand firm in order to prevent this attempted left-wing coup against our democratically elected government! ... Coming to a right wing conspiracy theory rumour mill near you soon. Memes will be supplied on request. Meanwhile, the Digger is sitting back hoping that this leads to the end of the BBC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinSmith1255 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 52 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: Like SNH and the RSPB claiming planting trees increases carbon capture when they know the scientific results show the opposite? That sort of thing? Planting trees does increase carbon capture. Do you get your science from Trump and/or Bolsonaro? If not please cite your authentic scientific source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, redjambo said: This is all obviously a plot hatched by the left-wing management in charge of the BBC in cahoots with the Labour party in order to undermine the Conservatives. It was arranged that Lineker would tweet what he did and that his bosses at the BBC would then ask him to step back so that a furore would be kicked up about an immigration policy that was only designed in the first place to be caring and humane. They're all in on it, the Trotskyist BBC management, woke Labour Party HQ, the presenters, the commentators... We need to stand firm in order to prevent this attempted left-wing coup against our democratically elected government! ... Coming to a right wing conspiracy theory rumour mill near you soon. Memes will be supplied on request. Corbyn trying to make a comeback. Trying to get his own back on Sugar for saying don't vote for this man when he was working for the BBC, with no reprimand or censure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 6 minutes ago, ColinSmith1255 said: Planting trees does increase carbon capture. Do you get your science from Trump and/or Bolsonaro? If not please cite your authentic scientific source. Dawn's referring to the planting of trees on peat moorland. Don't be surprised if he does indeed come with a scientific study or two. Always better to do a wee bit of research yourself before having at go at someone. https://www.iucn-uk-peatlandprogramme.org/sites/default/files/2020-04/IUCN UK PP Peatlands and trees position statement 2020.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 1 minute ago, redjambo said: Dawn's referring to the planting of trees on peat moorland. Don't be surprised if he does indeed come with a scientific study or two. Always better to do a wee bit of research yourself before having at go at someone. https://www.iucn-uk-peatlandprogramme.org/sites/default/files/2020-04/IUCN UK PP Peatlands and trees position statement 2020.pdf Always good to say that at the start also, especially when it’s interesting, to me anyway 😆. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Will folk boycott MOTD or will it get record viewing figures 🤷🏾♂️🤔?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Players Union supporting players who wont speak to the BBC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trotter Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, redjambo said: Not always that evident. When you're passing from the Atlantic Ocean to the Pacific Ocean through the Panama canal, what direction are you going in? right - left Edited March 11, 2023 by trotter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 3 hours ago, redjambo said: Not always that evident. When you're passing from the Atlantic Ocean to the Pacific Ocean through the Panama canal, what direction are you going in? Oh, I know this one, it's the other way! When you're going east to west you travel south east, going west to east you travel north west. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 25 minutes ago, jonesy said: If it’s just wall to wall highlights with zero blathering, how am I going to foot in my trips to the fridge for another beer? I might not fall asleep for once 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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redjambo Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 1 hour ago, trotter said: right - left It's actually left to right. That's the oddity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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