Cade Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 (edited) Tax dodging winker. Still right about the boats, mind. Edited March 28, 2023 by Cade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 51 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said: Good old Gary. A man who speaks for the everyday man in the nation. Well speaks for them but doesn't want to pay same tax as them obviously. Predictable victory but nothing to celebrate for normal working folk. You can pay extra tax if you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter McGavin Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 50 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said: Good old Gary. A man who speaks for the everyday man in the nation. Well speaks for them but doesn't want to pay same tax as them obviously. Predictable victory but nothing to celebrate for normal working folk. He paid all his due tax at the top rate, what more could he do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 3 hours ago, Mikey1874 said: The tax rules are the tax rules. Judgement was predictable. If you earn as much as Lineker you can pay for the most expensive tax advisers to minimise your tax exposure. And the most expensive tax lawyers to defend the schemes the tax advisers recommend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Shooter McGavin said: He paid all his due tax at the top rate, what more could he do? He could just pay the top rate on his generous salary without using tax avoidance schemes to minimise his tax bill. As I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 10 hours ago, Francis Albert said: He could just pay the top rate on his generous salary without using tax avoidance schemes to minimise his tax bill. As I did. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 11 hours ago, Francis Albert said: He could just pay the top rate on his generous salary without using tax avoidance schemes to minimise his tax bill. As I did. **** that. I'll always try to pay as ittle tax as is legally possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 11 hours ago, Francis Albert said: He could just pay the top rate on his generous salary without using tax avoidance schemes to minimise his tax bill. As I did. Fair play. Sadly, tightening up these schemes(Loopholes) isn’t going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joondalupjambo Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 Income tax for the ordinary PAYG folk is limited compared the numerous other taxes out there in everyday life. Add up what you pay. Vat, car tax, insurance tax, travel tax, and on and on it goes. The unemployed are paying tax everyday as well as those in work. No wonder folk try to minimise the income tax they pay with everything else on the go 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perth to Paisley Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 11 hours ago, Francis Albert said: He could just pay the top rate on his generous salary without using tax avoidance schemes to minimise his tax bill. As I did. Presume you don't have an Isa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 41 minutes ago, Perth to Paisley said: Presume you don't have an Isa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter McGavin Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 12 hours ago, Francis Albert said: He could just pay the top rate on his generous salary without using tax avoidance schemes to minimise his tax bill. As I did. Tell me one person who actively goes out their way to pay more tax than they legally need to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 Wonder if he will ask for a pay rise sering as the cost of a TV license is being increased? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Shooter McGavin said: Tell me one person who actively goes out their way to pay more tax than they legally need to? The King, when he was just poor wee penniless Prince Charles, would often make a voluntary payment to HMRC as a wee gift to the nation, even though he didn't need to, because the Duchy of Cornwall is tax exempt, because one of his ancestors killed someone, or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 7 minutes ago, Cade said: The King, when he was just poor wee penniless Prince Charles, would often make a voluntary payment to HMRC as a wee gift to the nation, even though he didn't need to, because the Duchy of Cornwall is tax exempt, because one of his ancestors killed someone, or something. The queen killed his wife? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Shooter McGavin said: Tell me one person who actively goes out their way to pay more tax than they legally need to? Keir Starmer and me when my Mrs does my tax. I'm doing it this year and I'm going to toryfy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder and Lightning Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 On 21/03/2023 at 09:26, Smithee said: I've never funded a hate group. The rest of it's pretty low given you know about my circumstances. Is it just lack of funds thats stopping you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder and Lightning Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 14 hours ago, Francis Albert said: He could just pay the top rate on his generous salary without using tax avoidance schemes to minimise his tax bill. As I did. Do you pay more for goods in the shops than you need to? Tax avoidance is perfectly legal (as you know). He simply followed the laws of the land... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobboM Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 Lineker accused of not minimising the amount of tax he paid! 😜 Dave Chaplin, CEO of IR35 tax compliance firm IR35 Shield, who watched the tribunal case, says: "Gary Lineker's IR35 case was unique because he operated via a general Partnership, rather than via a Limited Company. The difference meant he had already paid more income tax than HMRC was asking him to pay under the Intermediaries Legislation. "I always said, if Gary Lineker was a tax avoider, then he was a terrible one because he chose to structure his tax affairs that maximised the tax he paid, not minimised it." https://www.contractorcalculator.co.uk/breaking_gary_lineker_wins_ir35_tax_case_567510_news.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 53 minutes ago, Thunder and Lightning said: Is it just lack of funds thats stopping you? No, I am the hate fund! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 5 hours ago, Dirk McTarkin said: **** that. I'll always try to pay as ittle tax as is legally possible. Yup. **** the tax man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 7 hours ago, Shooter McGavin said: Tell me one person who actively goes out their way to pay more tax than they legally need to? Gary Lineker apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder and Lightning Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 4 hours ago, Smithee said: No, I am the hate fund! 🤯 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 OK a wee rant follows. First a response to one query about my tax affairs. Yes I have an ISA. About 15k invested soon after they were created. For over a decade low interest rates meant it has been useless as a tax avoidance tool. As for Lineker good on him if he has set up his tax arrangements to pay more than he is required to by law. Puts some posters on here to shame IMO. Despite the impression I may have given by being not very woke and even opposed to some wokeism (and not being a supporter of SNP) I am not a Tory or far right winger but a lifelong Labour supporter (except only when it came to Corbyn). Progressive taxation where high earners and the rich pay proportionately more than the poor is one of the fundamentals of socialism. From each according to his abilities to each according to his needs as Marx said. I like that because it implies an obligation on those with abilities to use those abilities not just depend on others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 13 minutes ago, Francis Albert said: OK a wee rant follows. First a response to one query about my tax affairs. Yes I have an ISA. About 15k invested soon after they were created. For over a decade low interest rates meant it has been useless as a tax avoidance tool. As for Lineker good on him if he has set up his tax arrangements to pay more than he is required to by law. Puts some posters on here to shame IMO. Despite the impression I may have given by being not very woke and even opposed to some wokeism (and not being a supporter of SNP) I am not a Tory or far right winger but a lifelong Labour supporter (except only when it came to Corbyn). Progressive taxation where high earners and the rich pay proportionately more than the poor is one of the fundamentals of socialism. From each according to his abilities to each according to his needs as Marx said. I like that because it implies an obligation on those with abilities to use those abilities not just depend on others. That's a decent post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 20 minutes ago, Francis Albert said: OK a wee rant follows. First a response to one query about my tax affairs. Yes I have an ISA. About 15k invested soon after they were created. For over a decade low interest rates meant it has been useless as a tax avoidance tool. As for Lineker good on him if he has set up his tax arrangements to pay more than he is required to by law. Puts some posters on here to shame IMO. Despite the impression I may have given by being not very woke and even opposed to some wokeism (and not being a supporter of SNP) I am not a Tory or far right winger but a lifelong Labour supporter (except only when it came to Corbyn). Progressive taxation where high earners and the rich pay proportionately more than the poor is one of the fundamentals of socialism. From each according to his abilities to each according to his needs as Marx said. I like that because it implies an obligation on those with abilities to use those abilities not just depend on others. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Francis Albert said: OK a wee rant follows. First a response to one query about my tax affairs. Yes I have an ISA. About 15k invested soon after they were created. For over a decade low interest rates meant it has been useless as a tax avoidance tool. As for Lineker good on him if he has set up his tax arrangements to pay more than he is required to by law. Puts some posters on here to shame IMO. Despite the impression I may have given by being not very woke and even opposed to some wokeism (and not being a supporter of SNP) I am not a Tory or far right winger but a lifelong Labour supporter (except only when it came to Corbyn). Progressive taxation where high earners and the rich pay proportionately more than the poor is one of the fundamentals of socialism. From each according to his abilities to each according to his needs as Marx said. I like that because it implies an obligation on those with abilities to use those abilities not just depend on others. I suspect there will be a fair few that say eff the taxman who at the same time are screaming for nurses/teachers/railway workers to be paid a meaningful increase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 If you moan about paying tax, then you have absolutely no right to complain about wee things like the state of the roads, or schools, or the armed forces, or the railways, or prisons, or health service or lack of government subsidies for anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 20 minutes ago, Japan Jambo said: I suspect there will be a fair few that say eff the taxman who at the same time are screaming for nurses/teachers/railway workers to be paid a meaningful increase. I'm one of them. Eff the taxman, because they're just the money raising arm of government. Eff them for the game they've been set up to play that makes sure they get their pound of flesh from you, but not from the rich. And yes, I have been a taxman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Francis Albert said: OK a wee rant follows. First a response to one query about my tax affairs. Yes I have an ISA. About 15k invested soon after they were created. For over a decade low interest rates meant it has been useless as a tax avoidance tool. As for Lineker good on him if he has set up his tax arrangements to pay more than he is required to by law. Puts some posters on here to shame IMO. Despite the impression I may have given by being not very woke and even opposed to some wokeism (and not being a supporter of SNP) I am not a Tory or far right winger but a lifelong Labour supporter (except only when it came to Corbyn). Progressive taxation where high earners and the rich pay proportionately more than the poor is one of the fundamentals of socialism. From each according to his abilities to each according to his needs as Marx said. I like that because it implies an obligation on those with abilities to use those abilities not just depend on others. Good post, FA and a decent show of humility given some earlier comments about Lineker's tax affairs. Most reasonable people accept the principle of paying your dues with taxes so that we can live in a decent and fair society. If Lineker is paying more than he has to then good for him too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, Smithee said: I'm one of them. Eff the taxman, because they're just the money raising arm of government. Eff them for the game they've been set up to play that makes sure they get their pound of flesh from you, but not from the rich. And yes, I have been a taxman. Have to hand it to you Smithee, you’ve had a fair few jobs. Did you never find one you enjoyed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 Just now, Japan Jambo said: Have to hand it to you Smithee, you’ve had a fair few jobs. Did you never find one you enjoyed? I enjoyed pretty much all of them to one extent or another, but I always moved on when they got too boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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