Hungry hippo Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Locky said: Interesting to know. I have seen this case in the news but only now really looking at it. I know nothing of the area, but looked at a few photos of the river and you've pretty much backed up my initial thoughts. It doesn't look the deepest, widest or even wildest river. And I saw you even said there hadn't been a lot of rain in the area prior to this. Hard to imagine someone falling in and being completely swept away beyond all tracing. Didn't realise they had a business but that's definitely something to factor in. Also, what was the nature of the teams call? She was a mortgage advisor. Redundancies perhaps? Has she had a mental breakdown and fled, or perhaps done something much worse. Definitely a mystery, but what folk seem to fail to remember in this situation is the poor family, especially the 2 young daughters wondering where their Mum is. I suspect the Teams call wasn't interesting or that would be a major line of enquiry. Would be all over the Internet by now if it was anything like redundancies. Probably just a regular meeting like many of us do regularly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 On 04/02/2023 at 12:09, GBJambo said: Well if you listen to all the Miss Marples on socials it’s the husband that done it 🤦🏻 Even though he was at work with 10 collleagues . Apparently he didn’t show emotion when getting interviewed is their reason 🤦🏻 Yup. I don’t know why the police bother with investigating. The Facebook detectives would have it solved in 5 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 6 hours ago, JFK-1 said: I drunkenly decided to have a piss into the harbour, and fell about 20 feet into the water probably still pissing. So glad you made it out OK but I've a mental image of you somersaulting off the harbour wall, todge in hand and singing heartily before the big sploosh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Listening to an expert diver on the radio there who reckons she’s not in the river. Says it’s not a fast flowing river and if she’d drowned she wouldn’t have moved all that far and she’d have been found by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CostaJambo Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: Listening to an expert diver on the radio there who reckons she’s not in the river. Says it’s not a fast flowing river and if she’d drowned she wouldn’t have moved all that far and she’d have been found by now. Did he say anything about a canoe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, CostaJambo said: Did he say anything about a canoe? No. Is that a theory? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor FinnBarr Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: No. Is that a theory? Hartlepool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CostaJambo Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: No. Is that a theory? Nope. And it's not much of a joke either by the look of things! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 34 minutes ago, CostaJambo said: Nope. And it's not much of a joke either by the look of things! Should have gone with kayak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 1 hour ago, CostaJambo said: Did he say anything about a canoe? It never crossed my mind. 👀 1 hour ago, jack D and coke said: No. Is that a theory? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hughesie27 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 See a wee 11 year old girl has gone missing near Gala. Left her friends last night at half 5 yesterday and was spotted on Starbucks CCTV at 18.15 but nothing since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 2 hours ago, jack D and coke said: Listening to an expert diver on the radio there who reckons she’s not in the river. Says it’s not a fast flowing river and if she’d drowned she wouldn’t have moved all that far and she’d have been found by now. I've said that from the start, it's a slow moving part ot the river at St Michaels, a course fish section for the fishers amongst us, it's in a flat area so not a lot of fall to speed the water up and mostly fairly shallow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 27 minutes ago, hughesie27 said: See a wee 11 year old girl has gone missing near Gala. Left her friends last night at half 5 yesterday and was spotted on Starbucks CCTV at 18.15 but nothing since. I saw that on the news this morning, the worry her family must be going through is hellish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert. Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 46 minutes ago, hughesie27 said: See a wee 11 year old girl has gone missing near Gala. Left her friends last night at half 5 yesterday and was spotted on Starbucks CCTV at 18.15 but nothing since. A guy at the council told me since kids got the free bus passes cases of missing kids have went up 300%. Bairns as young as 9-10yo are jumping on buses and disappearing for hours on end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 32 minutes ago, Herbert. said: A guy at the council told me since kids got the free bus passes cases of missing kids have went up 300%. Bairns as young as 9-10yo are jumping on buses and disappearing for hours on end. The guy in the council would know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert. Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 8 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: The guy in the council would know. I assume he would since he runs the bus station and has to deal with the police multiple times a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, Herbert. said: I assume he would since he runs the bus station and has to deal with the police multiple times a day. What bus station does the council run? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daktari Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 11 minutes ago, Herbert. said: I assume he would since he runs the bus station and has to deal with the police multiple times a day. The police also hold multi-agency meetings with councils where these things are discussed, and someof the kids come under social work (therefore council) care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 58 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: The guy in the council would know. I'd think that someone in the council will know, because it's a council issued travel card, so they'll want to know how often they are getting used, besides someone has to pay the bus company, council pays the bus company, council gets reimbursed by the government, it could easily work that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 54 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: What bus station does the council run? Maybe doesn't run it on a day to basis, but looks like Scottish Borders Council own it. https://www.hubsoutheastscotland.co.uk/projects/galashiels-transport-interchange/ Scroll down and you'll see that Morrison Construction built it for Scottish Borders Council back in 2015. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevy Chase Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 1 hour ago, The Real Maroonblood said: The guy in the council would know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: Maybe doesn't run it on a day to basis, but looks like Scottish Borders Council own it. https://www.hubsoutheastscotland.co.uk/projects/galashiels-transport-interchange/ Scroll down and you'll see that Morrison Construction built it for Scottish Borders Council back in 2015. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert. Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 1 hour ago, The Real Maroonblood said: What bus station does the council run? Majority of fife bus stations are fife council only St Andrews is owned by stagecoach i think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, Herbert. said: Majority of fife bus stations are fife council only St Andrews is owned by stagecoach i think. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irufushi Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 No idea what’s happened but i was shocked at how small a river it is. Doesn’t add up if she was a strong swimmer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daktari Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 28 minutes ago, Irufushi said: No idea what’s happened but i was shocked at how small a river it is. Doesn’t add up if she was a strong swimmer. It does actually. Swimming in many layers of clothes and boots doesn't equate to being a strong swimmer in a pool in a swimming costume unfortunately. It's incredibly difficult and tiring, as well as potential cold water shock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 7 hours ago, CostaJambo said: Nope. And it's not much of a joke either by the look of things! I’ve had this explained to me. It rings no bells with me at all this story 🤷🏽♂️😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, Daktari said: It does actually. Swimming in many layers of clothes and boots doesn't equate to being a strong swimmer in a pool in a swimming costume unfortunately. It's incredibly difficult and tiring, as well as potential cold water shock. Similar was mentioned on page 1. Has it been said she was only a strong swimmer in a pool? To me a strong swimmer, is a strong swimmer in a multitude of conditions...otherwise they're ergo not a strong swimmer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Cold shock. Fright. Panic. Long padded coat. Welly boots. Strong swimmer, innit? Geez peace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day@theraces Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 26 minutes ago, Taffin said: Similar was mentioned on page 1. Has it been said she was only a strong swimmer in a pool? To me a strong swimmer, is a strong swimmer in a multitude of conditions...otherwise they're ergo not a strong swimmer To be honest, it wouldn't shock me if regarded as a strong swimmer, means someone wouldn't drown in a public pool. Without breathing correctly, cold shock and wearing heavy clothing can effectively be life threatening in most bodies of water. But as others have mentioned the area she went missing is neither deep nor wide. A very strange case and at this point unlikely to have a positive ending Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 The more I think about it the more I think, leave phone behind, leave dog in a safe place out of it’s harness, let nobody know where you are. Very good chance she is somewhere where she doesn’t want to be found. Best case scenario she’s run from her family for whatever reason. Worst case she’s gone somewhere quiet knowing she won’t be found for a long time to get to a place where she won’t have any more problems ever again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 16 minutes ago, Victorian said: Cold shock. Fright. Panic. Long padded coat. Welly boots. Strong swimmer, innit? Geez peace. Agreed. But the diving expert said she’d have been found by now. She’d have been snagged on something within a few hundred metres in a shallow pool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, Tazio said: The more I think about it the more I think, leave phone behind, leave dog in a safe place out of it’s harness, let nobody know where you are. Very good chance she is somewhere where she doesn’t want to be found. Best case scenario she’s run from her family for whatever reason. Worst case she’s gone somewhere quiet knowing she won’t be found for a long time to get to a place where she won’t have any more problems ever again. Hopefully but pretty tricky to pull off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve123 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Family and friends getting stick tonight as started a go fund me page to raise 100k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irufushi Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 9 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: Agreed. But the diving expert said she’d have been found by now. She’d have been snagged on something within a few hundred metres in a shallow pool. Geez peace he said. Don’t agitate him by quoting him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irufushi Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 1 minute ago, steve123 said: Family and friends getting stick tonight as started a go fund me page to raise 100k. 😂 they’re at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 7 minutes ago, hughesie27 said: Hopefully but pretty tricky to pull off. Well hopefully not the second of the scenarios. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Just now, Irufushi said: Geez peace he said. Don’t agitate him by quoting him. You shut your maaaaf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, steve123 said: Family and friends getting stick tonight as started a go fund me page to raise 100k. No way?! It’s unravelling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irufushi Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: You shut your maaaaf 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 14 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: Agreed. But the diving expert said she’d have been found by now. She’d have been snagged on something within a few hundred metres in a shallow pool. Yes. The failure to find her in there casts a bit of doubt on her being in the river. Albeit it's not impossible yet. I've seen it reported that a basic diver search can easily miss someone. The higher tech sonar search should get much nearer to the fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Victorian said: Yes. The failure to find her in there casts a bit of doubt on her being in the river. Albeit it's not impossible yet. I've seen it reported that a basic diver search can easily miss someone. The higher tech sonar search should get much nearer to the fact. Aye the guy on the radio said they’d find her easily with this sonar if she’s there. I’m honestly starting to wonder if this is some elaborate hoax. I hope so too. There’s two small kids caught up in this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irufushi Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 16 minutes ago, steve123 said: Family and friends getting stick tonight as started a go fund me page to raise 100k. They’ve now changed it to 50k . How nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 1 minute ago, jack D and coke said: Aye the guy on the radio said they’d find her easily with this sonar if she’s there. I’m honestly starting to wonder if this is some elaborate hoax. I hope so too. There’s two small kids caught up in this. Who really knows these days? I don't pay any attention to the kind of social media based, bad faith speculation that's been reported. But you can never really rule out anything. For whatever motives, desperate people can no doubt resort to some ill conceived enterprises. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve123 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Irufushi said: They’ve now changed it to 50k . How nice. Crazy I can only assume they have not thought through the optics of it... Down to 5k now !! Edited February 6, 2023 by steve123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Victorian said: Who really knows these days? I don't pay any attention to the kind of social media based, bad faith speculation that's been reported. But you can never really rule out anything. For whatever motives, desperate people can no doubt resort to some ill conceived enterprises. You hear things about mortgages being in arrears or business being in financial difficulties or whatever and now the go fund me… This is starting to ming… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 37 minutes ago, Day@theraces said: To be honest, it wouldn't shock me if regarded as a strong swimmer, means someone wouldn't drown in a public pool. Without breathing correctly, cold shock and wearing heavy clothing can effectively be life threatening in most bodies of water. But as others have mentioned the area she went missing is neither deep nor wide. A very strange case and at this point unlikely to have a positive ending Guess it's all context, I don't know where the description came from or how it was being used...hence the question I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 1 minute ago, jack D and coke said: You hear things about mortgages being in arrears or business being in financial difficulties or whatever and now the go fund me… This is starting to ming… Seems to me it would be a bit ham-fisted and doomed to discovery on the face of what's being suggested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, Victorian said: Seems to me it would be a bit ham-fisted and doomed to discovery on the face of what's being suggested. Aye I’m getting like these bams on Facebook thinking I know. Something isn’t right here though. I hope the girl is ok end of the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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