Jacques de Gatineau Posted February 2 Posted February 2 8 hours ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: Add in the DUP and Fartrage could be in government. I have a bet with my mate that Farage will be PM, even for a short time, by 2030. Quote
Cade Posted February 2 Posted February 2 Keef's New New Labour are making the same mistakes that the Democrats made in the USA. All they know is "business as usual" even though it is that exact state of affairs that the people are railing against. They're way too close to big business and all they know is orthodox Thatcherite economic policy. They are fundamentally incapable of thinking outside this box. GDP and FTSE figures going up is all that matters to these blinkered idiots. The people are crying out for change and they'll vote for ANY change, even if that's open fascism. Quote
Lone Striker Posted February 2 Posted February 2 2 hours ago, Cade said: Keef's New New Labour are making the same mistakes that the Democrats made in the USA. All they know is "business as usual" even though it is that exact state of affairs that the people are railing against. They're way too close to big business and all they know is orthodox Thatcherite economic policy. They are fundamentally incapable of thinking outside this box. GDP and FTSE figures going up is all that matters to these blinkered idiots. The people are crying out for change and they'll vote for ANY change, even if that's open fascism. Some valid comments regarding Labour, imo. However, if you think Labour & USA Dems are too cosy with big business, why would that be a reason to vote Tory/Reform/Trump - the original enablers of big business with ongoing policies to reduce their business taxes ? tbf, meddling with "big business tax" policy is a no-win since most big companies are multi-national Policy of low taxation = attracts big companies from abroad to invest and employ folk in the UK, can sometimes be good for economic growth but annoys lefties who want to soak the rich Policy of high-taxation = some big companies down-size their UK ops/workforce to move them abroad, often doesn't help economic growth. Quote
mikeralston Posted February 2 Posted February 2 They are finished as are the Tories. Reform will clean up Quote
Tazio Posted February 2 Posted February 2 2 minutes ago, mikeralston said: They are finished as are the Tories. Reform will clean up The party that lure in halfwits with sound bites they can’t back up. Excellent. Quote
mikeralston Posted February 2 Posted February 2 Just now, Tazio said: The party that lure in halfwits with sound bites they can’t back up. Excellent. Yea, I did say labour in my post. Quote
jack D and coke Posted February 2 Posted February 2 15 hours ago, Lone Striker said: The latest from Jonathan Pie. I love it when an English guy fillets Thatcher. You’re not allowed to say that up here cos your bitter or mammies or some other demented shite. Quote
Tazio Posted February 2 Posted February 2 10 minutes ago, mikeralston said: Yea, I did say labour in my post. And I clearly meant Reform. A bunch of chancers with shady past on the whole. Quote
redjambo Posted February 2 Posted February 2 13 hours ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: Add in the DUP and Fartrage could be in government. Deputy PM no less. Quote
redjambo Posted February 2 Posted February 2 (edited) 7 hours ago, Gundermann said: 1 and 5 for me. They haven't had enough time yet to enact change or keep promises for the others. 1 in particular was a case of shooting themselves in the foot. A spectacular piece of faulty decision-making. Edited February 2 by redjambo Quote
Lone Striker Posted February 2 Posted February 2 10 minutes ago, redjambo said: 1 and 5 for me. They haven't had enough time yet to enact change or keep promises for the others. 1 in particular was a case of shooting themselves in the foot. A spectacular piece of faulty decision-making. Just out of interest.... what does 5 actually mean ? Or what did you think it meant when you said 5 ? Quote
redjambo Posted February 2 Posted February 2 1 minute ago, Lone Striker said: Just out of interest.... what does 5 actually mean ? Or what did you think it meant when you said 5 ? As one example, do you know all those billions of Covid money that went into the pockets of unscrupulous chancers, mostly in procurement but also those claiming excessive unjustified compensatory sums for the companies they ran? Labour haven't moved quickly or broadly enough on the issue, imo. Fat cats will always remain fat cats, particularly when so many politicians are on the gravy train themselves. https://www.transparency.org.uk/news/new-research-raises-corruption-questions-over-billions-covid-public-spending Quote
Cade Posted February 2 Posted February 2 7 hours ago, Gundermann said: 1) Scrap the winter fuel allowance entirely and replace it with strict price caps on properties 100% occupied by retirees (or retirees and registered carers) Saves the Government a bundle and it's fair. 2) Lower the energy price caps. Ignore the useless "regulator" recommendations, over-rule it and lower the price cap on energy for both business and residential properties. Could (and should) go further and nationalise all energy companies so they can be run on lower profits, with those profits being used to fund.... 3) Windfall tax the profiteering energy, water, supermarket and other sectors with a 100% windfall tax. Nationalise energy, water and some others. Use the money to fund local Councils and the NHS. As we're on the subject of the NHS, fully renationalise it again. Scrap all the semi private contracts. Strict price caps on drugs. 4) 1,2 and 3 should take care of this. 5) See above. Quote
ƒιѕнρℓαρѕ Posted February 2 Posted February 2 4 minutes ago, Cade said: 1) Scrap the winter fuel allowance entirely and replace it with strict price caps on properties 100% occupied by retirees (or retirees and registered carers) Saves the Government a bundle and it's fair. 2) Lower the energy price caps. Ignore the useless "regulator" recommendations, over-rule it and lower the price cap on energy for both business and residential properties. Could (and should) go further and nationalise all energy companies so they can be run on lower profits, with those profits being used to fund.... 3) Windfall tax the profiteering energy, water, supermarket and other sectors with a 100% windfall tax. Nationalise energy, water and some others. Use the money to fund local Councils and the NHS. As we're on the subject of the NHS, fully renationalise it again. Scrap all the semi private contracts. Strict price caps on drugs. 4) 1,2 and 3 should take care of this. 5) See above. A nationalised pharmaceutical company that provides to the NHS at cost. Quote
Lone Striker Posted February 2 Posted February 2 15 minutes ago, redjambo said: As one example, do you know all those billions of Covid money that went into the pockets of unscrupulous chancers, mostly in procurement but also those claiming excessive unjustified compensatory sums for the companies they ran? Labour haven't moved quickly or broadly enough on the issue, imo. Fat cats will always remain fat cats, particularly when so many politicians are on the gravy train themselves. https://www.transparency.org.uk/news/new-research-raises-corruption-questions-over-billions-covid-public-spending Ah ok..... I hadn't considered it included a good old "mone" at the Covid "business opportunity" " Quote
Lone Striker Posted February 2 Posted February 2 10 minutes ago, Cade said: 1) Scrap the winter fuel allowance entirely and replace it with strict price caps on properties 100% occupied by retirees (or retirees and registered carers) Saves the Government a bundle and it's fair. 2) Lower the energy price caps. Ignore the useless "regulator" recommendations, over-rule it and lower the price cap on energy for both business and residential properties. Could (and should) go further and nationalise all energy companies so they can be run on lower profits, with those profits being used to fund.... 3) Windfall tax the profiteering energy, water, supermarket and other sectors with a 100% windfall tax. Nationalise energy, water and some others. Use the money to fund local Councils and the NHS. As we're on the subject of the NHS, fully renationalise it again. Scrap all the semi private contracts. Strict price caps on drugs. 4) 1,2 and 3 should take care of this. 5) See above. The "How would you vote now" poll should have included the Cade Party - it would get my vote !!! Quote
mikeralston Posted February 2 Posted February 2 58 minutes ago, Tazio said: And I clearly meant Reform. A bunch of chancers with shady past on the whole. Just pointing out it could be any of them. Quote
redjambo Posted February 2 Posted February 2 14 minutes ago, Lone Striker said: Ah ok..... I hadn't considered it included a good old "mone" at the Covid "business opportunity" " Quote
Jacques de Gatineau Posted February 2 Posted February 2 8 hours ago, Gundermann said: 1 was a necessary evil. 2-5 would have happened no matter who won. It's not a Labour thing. It's a politics thing. Quote
Gerry1874 Posted February 2 Posted February 2 3 hours ago, Tazio said: The party that lure in halfwits with sound bites they can’t back up. Excellent. Like vote SNP for an independent Scotland... Quote
The Real Maroonblood Posted February 2 Posted February 2 26 minutes ago, Gerry1874 said: Like vote SNP for an independent Scotland... You had a nightmare on the Prince Nonce thread so now trying to deflect on this thread. Quote
Gerry1874 Posted February 2 Posted February 2 17 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: You had a nightmare on the Prince Nonce thread so now trying to deflect on this thread. Not really laughing my head off our how easy the kickback Celtic contingent can get triggered. Growing men snapping away at a sentence... Quote
Tazio Posted February 2 Posted February 2 33 minutes ago, Gerry1874 said: Not really laughing my head off our how easy the kickback Celtic contingent can get triggered. Growing men snapping away at a sentence... I stopped growing a long time ago. Though a bit of you probably grows a wee bit when you see a union flag. Quote
The Real Maroonblood Posted February 2 Posted February 2 49 minutes ago, Gerry1874 said: Not really laughing my head off our how easy the kickback Celtic contingent can get triggered. Growing men snapping away at a sentence... Quote
Jeffros Furios Posted February 2 Posted February 2 2 hours ago, Gerry1874 said: Not really laughing my head off our how easy the kickback Celtic contingent can get triggered. Growing men snapping away at a sentence... Gerrydale Street Quote
The Real Maroonblood Posted February 2 Posted February 2 3 minutes ago, Jeffros Furios said: Gerrydale Street Quote
Sooperstar Posted February 2 Posted February 2 13 minutes ago, Jeffros Furios said: Gerrydale Street 😂👏👏 Quote
Gundermann Posted February 3 Posted February 3 18 hours ago, ｕｎｋｎｏｗｎｕｓｅｒ said: A nationalised pharmaceutical company that provides to the NHS at cost. Yes. Quote
Boab Posted February 4 Posted February 4 On 02/02/2025 at 14:29, jack D and coke said: I love it when an English guy fillets Thatcher. You’re not allowed to say that up here cos your bitter or mammies or some other demented shite. Definitely allowed anywhere in my book. Witch should have been kicked into her grave. Quote
il Duce McTarkin Posted February 5 Posted February 5 1 hour ago, The Mighty Thor said: Going really well 👍 The UK is going to be governed by a bona fide fascist party in a few years, isn't it. Quote
Gundermann Posted February 5 Posted February 5 2 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said: Going really well 👍 it's almost part of a masterplan - have a wishy-washy ambiguous neo-liberal, centre-right party of 'good guys' like Labour here or the Dems in the US who do little or nothing to tackle ordinary people's problems, who talk of peace while sending weapons to Israel etc... Then, in steps a party of 'ordinary joes' who tell it like it is despite being the puppets of billionaires and grifters like Farage. Scotland a cause for optimism there though. Just hope the SNP doesn't regard that as a signal to just keep on like before. Quote
Cade Posted February 5 Posted February 5 That's like an economic map of Britain. Major Cities = Labour Middle-class rural = LibDems Rich rural = Tories Poor rural = Reform Quote
JudyJudyJudy Posted February 5 Posted February 5 23 minutes ago, Gundermann said: it's almost part of a masterplan - have a wishy-washy ambiguous neo-liberal, centre-right party of 'good guys' like Labour here or the Dems in the US who do little or nothing to tackle ordinary people's problems, who talk of peace while sending weapons to Israel etc... Then, in steps a party of 'ordinary joes' who tell it like it is despite being the puppets of billionaires and grifters like Farage. Scotland a cause for optimism there though. Just hope the SNP doesn't regard that as a signal to just keep on like before. Quote
John Findlay Posted February 5 Posted February 5 On 02/02/2025 at 14:26, Tazio said: The party that lure in halfwits with sound bites they can’t back up. Excellent. I would humbly suggest that is what all mainstream parties do nowadays. Quote
Dawnrazor Posted February 5 Posted February 5 3 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said: Going really well 👍 Been on a wee holiday Thor? I've noticed you've not posted much lately. Quote
il Duce McTarkin Posted February 5 Posted February 5 2 hours ago, Dawnrazor said: Been on a wee holiday Thor? I've noticed you've not posted much lately. On remand. Quote
Jacques de Gatineau Posted February 5 Posted February 5 5 hours ago, il Duce McTarkin said: The UK is going to be governed by a bona fide fascist party in a few years, isn't it. Got money riding on it. Lump on now, because odds on Farage as PM by 2030 will be very short soon. Quote
The Mighty Thor Posted February 5 Posted February 5 4 hours ago, Dawnrazor said: Been on a wee holiday Thor? I've noticed you've not posted much lately. Something like that mate. 👍 A combination of having to graft and genuyinely trying not to get arsed about the shitshow that is the modern world. My far from unique insight will not have been missed 😂 Quote
The Mighty Thor Posted February 5 Posted February 5 6 hours ago, il Duce McTarkin said: The UK is going to be governed by a bona fide fascist party in a few years, isn't it. Every chance given the fair wind of the UK right wing press and social media bull horn of twats like Musk. Labour aren't really making any headway in changing anything and that's what will drag them down. Quote
Dawnrazor Posted February 5 Posted February 5 2 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said: Something like that mate. 👍 A combination of having to graft and genuyinely trying not to get arsed about the shitshow that is the modern world. My far from unique insight will not have been missed 😂 Good to see you back 👍 Quote
il Duce McTarkin Posted February 5 Posted February 5 2 hours ago, Dawnrazor said: Good to see you back 👍 Agreed. Quote
jack D and coke Posted February 7 Posted February 7 Imagine voting for those charlatans man! Britain as a whole has grifters, liars and absolute chancers running the gaff! Its totally tragical Quote
The Real Maroonblood Posted February 7 Posted February 7 40 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: Mare lies… He's an arsehole. Quote
joondalupjambo Posted February 10 Posted February 10 19.000 illegals, and others with no right to be in the UK returned to their home land since the GE says Yvette Cooper. That is a huge number. How can that be checked? Quote
XB52 Posted February 11 Posted February 11 12 minutes ago, Gundermann said: 😀 I just assumed that was a spoof till I checked. Vote for us as we like the SNP😀😀 Quote
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