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Posted
11 hours ago, Mac_fae_Gillie said:

Should she have resigned over this?? it was a stupid action of a 26year her, something she was already punished for. Bit crazy if every person in politics had to resign over any mistakes they made in thier 20s. Looking back to 11yerars ago with phone upgrades coming out so fast and people that age wanting the new tech what she did was pretty common place. I in no way defend her action but to have to lose any future career because of the stupidity of youth is plain daft in my opinion, all she should have down is own up/be honest about the issue. P.S. I know squat about her life in politics.

 

It's certainly at the low end of the scale but it's still technically a criminal offence of dishonesty.   Any such infraction calls a person's character into question.   Most people have made stupid mistakes of a range of kinds but not everyone is in government as an elected representative and also votes on the creation or amendment of law.

 

Not exactly crime of the century but she's been unlucky to be the first minister of this government to fall foul,  therefore didn't stand a chance.

Posted

While it waits to be forced to hold another General Election the Labour Government has deported hundreds more failed asylum seekers and criminals. 25% increase in deportations of foreign criminals and 30% overall increase. 

WorldChampions1902
Posted
On 29/11/2024 at 11:26, Cade said:

Stupid woman.

At least she resigned. Accountability is back!

And she is an ex-police officer. Christ on a bike!

:facepalm:

Posted
16 hours ago, Mac_fae_Gillie said:

Should she have resigned over this?? it was a stupid action of a 26year her, something she was already punished for. Bit crazy if every person in politics had to resign over any mistakes they made in thier 20s. Looking back to 11yerars ago with phone upgrades coming out so fast and people that age wanting the new tech what she did was pretty common place. I in no way defend her action but to have to lose any future career because of the stupidity of youth is plain daft in my opinion, all she should have down is own up/be honest about the issue. P.S. I know squat about her life in politics.

 

I would like to see a return to holding poliiticians to a higher standard. Scandals happen far too often, and it isn't good enough. 

 

Is it a big deal? No. But if we want standards then this is the sort of thing that needs to happen. I include Michael Matheson in that, the fact he stayed for so long after it and dug a hole for his colleagues was unacceptable. 

Posted
18 hours ago, dtgj said:

I see a Labour Glasgow councillor might be disqualified from a bye-election win because they didn't resign from their council job in time.

 

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/24763663.law-employment-ends-labour-councillors-time-office

 

Seems like something that Labour should have worked out in advance. 

 

Saw that. Brings back memories of past Labour 'competence' running yer local coonsull.

 

' VOTERS in Glasgow are set for another by-election after one of Labour’s newest councillors was caught out by the law.
Mary McNab won the Glasgow North East by-election at 10 minutes past midnight on November 22.
However, as she is an employee of Glasgow City Council, she was required to resign the next working day under the Local Government (Scotland) Act.
That meant she had until 11.59pm on November 25 to quit.
However, as McNab did not do so prior to 11.59pm on November 25, she ceased to be a councillor.
The Herald revealed that senior officials in the council have been taking legal advice as this is the first time this has happened anywhere in the UK.
Sheriff Principal Aisha Anwar has been asked to provide a definitive ruling on the law.
If she agrees that McNab is no longer a councillor, it will trigger another by-election.
Voters went to the polls earlier this month following the election of Labour’s Maureen Burke (below) to the Commons in July –with only 12.4% of those registered to vote doing so.
Posted
4 hours ago, Gundermann said:

 

Saw that. Brings back memories of past Labour 'competence' running yer local coonsull.

 

' VOTERS in Glasgow are set for another by-election after one of Labour’s newest councillors was caught out by the law.
Mary McNab won the Glasgow North East by-election at 10 minutes past midnight on November 22.
However, as she is an employee of Glasgow City Council, she was required to resign the next working day under the Local Government (Scotland) Act.
That meant she had until 11.59pm on November 25 to quit.
However, as McNab did not do so prior to 11.59pm on November 25, she ceased to be a councillor.
The Herald revealed that senior officials in the council have been taking legal advice as this is the first time this has happened anywhere in the UK.
Sheriff Principal Aisha Anwar has been asked to provide a definitive ruling on the law.
If she agrees that McNab is no longer a councillor, it will trigger another by-election.
Voters went to the polls earlier this month following the election of Labour’s Maureen Burke (below) to the Commons in July –with only 12.4% of those registered to vote doing so.

 

The text of the legislation doesn't give any wriggle room, as far as I can see.

 

 

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Posted

Rwanda. £715 million.

 

 

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Posted
18 hours ago, Mikey1874 said:

Rwanda. £715 million.

 

 

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Wonder if they used the same contractors for the detention centre as we did for the main stand?

Posted
19 hours ago, Japan Jambo said:

 

Wonder if they used the same contractors for the detention centre as we did for the main stand?

 

Maybe the detention centre looks a bit like one of the Ibrox stands?  :whistling:

Posted
1 hour ago, Sooperstar said:

BBC News - Police investigating Labour council leader
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9wllwex1j8o

 

Will be good to get rid of him 👍

 

Ouch! Never saw that coming. Labour are Hibsing it big time.

 

Second poll in as many days showing SNP and Green majority predicted. 54% for Yes in Indyref (as if that'll be granted by the backbone-less Starmer).

 

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Posted
1 minute ago, Gundermann said:

 

Ouch! Never saw that coming. Labour are Hibsing it big time.

 

Second poll in as many days showing SNP and Green majority predicted. 54% for Yes in Indyref (as if that'll be granted by the backbone-less Starmer).

 

bafkreiedwiltwryoi46cgwtzerhgljufrpaxckz

Bring an Indy ref vote on. 

joondalupjambo
Posted

Thinking the grass is greener is never a good strategy.

Posted

The green tail wagging the dog again?

 

Oh good…

Brian Whittaker's Tache
Posted (edited)
On 08/12/2024 at 11:42, Lovecraft said:

I 100% refuse to believe that this guy is a creep.

 

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Met him a couple of times thru work. Would have went to the opening of an envelope if there was a photo op in it for hiim.

Glad to see the back of him. Creep.



 

Edited by Brian Whittaker's Tache
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Posted
54 minutes ago, Brian Whittaker's Tache said:

Met him a couple of times thru work. Would have went to the opening of an envelope if there was a photo op in it for hiim.

Glad to see the back of him. Creep.



 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gxp093gwno

 

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jack D and coke
Posted

Is this guy credible?

Seen a few rumours about what Starmer knows but you take it with a pinch of salt these days…

Joey J J Jr Shabadoo
Posted
6 hours ago, jack D and coke said:

Is this guy credible?

Seen a few rumours about what Starmer knows but you take it with a pinch of salt these days…

He's a fat right, conspiracy theorist.

jack D and coke
Posted
38 minutes ago, Joey J J Jr Shabadoo said:

He's a fat right, conspiracy theorist.

I’ve never heard of him but he’s blue ticked and had a daily mirror thing in his bio🤷🏽‍♂️

Joey J J Jr Shabadoo
Posted
1 hour ago, jack D and coke said:

I’ve never heard of him but he’s blue ticked and had a daily mirror thing in his bio🤷🏽‍♂️

I came across him a couple of years ago (forget what it was). He's crazy.

 

Also, the blue tick is just paid for by Musk fanboys. It doesn't mean a thing (look at reputable journalists, news organisations that don't pay for it).

The Mighty Thor
Posted

An economy contracting and a chancellor driving Austerity 2.0

 

Aye but growth though 😂

 

Unbelievably they've managed to slither under the remarkably low bar it took the Tories 14 years to create and all inside 6 months 😂

jack D and coke
Posted

After watching a lot of the sickening videos of what’s been happening in Syria since the coup and Labour send this new “govt” £50m….

Is this some kind of joke??

Posted
1 hour ago, jack D and coke said:

After watching a lot of the sickening videos of what’s been happening in Syria since the coup and Labour send this new “govt” £50m….

Is this some kind of joke??

 

What's happened?

 

Actually thought this wasn't gonna descend into Libya/ Afghan style bloodletting but maybe not...  ☹️  Strange to be showering money on a guy that was Al Queda until recent weeks. Do we ever learn?

jack D and coke
Posted
55 minutes ago, Gundermann said:

 

What's happened?

 

Actually thought this wasn't gonna descend into Libya/ Afghan style bloodletting but maybe not...  ☹️  Strange to be showering money on a guy that was Al Queda until recent weeks. Do we ever learn?

I’ve seen some horrific stuff with what I believe is Syria that you can’t obviously share. 
You hope the money will go to people who genuinely need it. 
 

Posted
4 hours ago, jack D and coke said:

:lol: 

 

Doing the rounds. Non-X viewers here:

 

 

ToadKiller Dog
Posted

So the Labour Gov pension minister says they won't compensate the Waspi women who lost out due to pension changes .

Only an apology is what they will get .

And tells Holyrood to pay for the Westminster feck up .

So another promise from Sarwar the scottish branch manager gets kicked into tough by his bosses in Westminster. 

 

This labour gov seems to be hell bent on pissing off voters .

 

 

Posted

All in favour of the WASPI women getting telt to ram it in fairness. 

 

Never opened a paper in 20 year some of that lot to discover the years were changing. 

Posted

The Lib Dems call is a "day of shame". Someone should remind the useless ***** who accelerated the changes. 

Posted (edited)

Timeline

 

1940 women pension age reduced from 65 to 60.

 

1993 (Conservative Govt) proposed equalising pension age to 65. The main argument was women were now equal in society. Plan to phase this in between 2010 and 2020. To allow people time to plan ahead

 

2007 (Labour Govt) pension age increased to 66.

 

2011 (Conservative Govt) the big change kicking this off. The 1993 and 2011 changes increased some women's pension age by 6 years.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited by Mikey1874
Posted

Fair enough if you believe people should be compensated.  Though the amount of notice given to people is disputed. 

 

So the Conservatives kicked the can down the road on the Waspi women for 6 years. Continually delaying a decision. But it's all Labour’s fault. 

 

For anyone actually interested its a message about financial stability to the markets, same as the winter fuel payment. Just unfortunate for those banking on the money.

Posted
2 hours ago, BlueRiver said:

The Lib Dems call is a "day of shame". Someone should remind the useless ***** who accelerated the changes. 

 

True story. 

 

I think it always should have been a discrimination issue though the campaigners seem to know what they were doing.

 

Men got at least 6 years notice of pension age increase. Some women got one year because Lib Dem Government brought it forward.

joondalupjambo
Posted (edited)

My wife is a WASPI.

The issue cited most often is the lack of communication.

We were living in Australia in the key periods of accelerated change and my wife has a file full of letters she received at our overseas address advising of the forthcoming changes.

We were fortunate and took the appropriate action to take into account the loss of her full six years of State Pension.

The blaming of the Government at the time as to not sending out enough letters has always baffled us given we got them on another side of the world.

That all said missing out by the flick of a few pens on six years money is pretty bad.

And Labour ignoring the Ombudsman's findings and recommendations even worse.

 

Of course Labour have done the numbers, and just like with the winter fuel payment issue I think they have worked out that it will not effect them at the ballot box.  Very cynical policy making.

Edited by joondalupjambo
Posted

We all lose money and gain money over flicks of a pen. 

 

A historic inequality was remedied. 

Dennis Reynolds
Posted

Another good decision.

Posted

The pure hypocrisy from the labour party is the issue here, especially the numpties at Holyrood. I don't have any sympathy for the waspi women, even though my wife is one.

ToadKiller Dog
Posted

Westministers own heath ombudsman called for payouts of between 1k and 2,9k after completion of a report into the maladministration of the changes .

The labour gov said no ,

Now Sarwar and Baillie are left looking foolish again .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Posted
1 hour ago, Mikey1874 said:

Fair enough if you believe people should be compensated.  Though the amount of notice given to people is disputed. 

 

So the Conservatives kicked the can down the road on the Waspi women for 6 years. Continually delaying a decision. But it's all Labour’s fault. 

 

For anyone actually interested its a message about financial stability to the markets, same as the winter fuel payment. Just unfortunate for those banking on the money.

 

Kicking the can down the road so they could blame Labour for it later was the entire last two years of the Tory shitshow.

Nothing got done, everything got pushed back and here we are, with them screaming and pointing the finger.

manaliveits105
Posted

Rayner previously  stated live on TV that a Labour Government would compensate the WASPI women within 5 years 

Posted
On 12/12/2024 at 22:43, jack D and coke said:

Is this guy credible?

Seen a few rumours about what Starmer knows but you take it with a pinch of salt these days…

Look at his hair. Does he look credible?

jack D and coke
Posted
5 minutes ago, Sooperstar said:

Look at his hair. Does he look credible?

Fair point :lol: 

Posted

I really detest most polititians.

Between them they would all struggle to pass a decent shit.

Posted

Labour showing the masters they will screw everyone but them.

That is ...was going to say the but my reality or how I see it.

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