Is there anything in politics more shit than the Labour Party?

[il Duce McTarkin]

Mandelson. PHM.

 

 

[AlimOzturk]

30 minutes ago, jack D and coke said:

Never again for me. 

****ing joke. Might vote reform out of protest. I ****ing hate farage but main stream politics needs a scare. Needs ripped apart. 

[jack D and coke]

17 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said:

****ing joke. Might vote reform out of protest. I ****ing hate farage but main stream politics needs a scare. Needs ripped apart. 

I might do same. 

[Ulysses]

1 minute ago, jack D and coke said:

I might do same. 

 

What do you mean "might"?  Of course you will.

[JudyJudyJudy]

Glad I never voted for them . 

[Ron Burgundy]

Just saw something on FB that said David Lammy has spent £1 million on private jet flights since taking office. The Peoples Party right enough.

[jack D and coke]

Rachel from accounts🤣

Shes another shitehouse. 

[jack D and coke]

34 minutes ago, Ulysses said:

 

What do you mean "might"?  Of course you will.

If I can arsed to vote I will yeah. 
Better?

[AlimOzturk]

56 minutes ago, Ulysses said:

 

What do you mean "might"?  Of course you will.

Pretty certain Jack D like myself is just completely disillusioned with the state of the country. These mainstream political parties aren’t changing unless they are completely forced to by the public. It’s a protest vote nothing else 

[Shooter McGavin]

1 hour ago, jack D and coke said:

I might do same. 

Reform are looking like they could be a huge problem for the status quo

[AlimOzturk]

2 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

Reform are looking like they could be a huge problem for the status quo

The Labour Party are trying their hardest to ban them. 

[Shooter McGavin]

Just now, AlimOzturk said:

The Labour Party are trying their hardest to ban them. 

I actually thought the Reform party would be a good thing in a sense that it would force Labour to be semi-compitent to fend them off, but it looks like they're losing people at pace to them, and aren't really that bothered.

[jack D and coke]

1 hour ago, AlimOzturk said:

Pretty certain Jack D like myself is just completely disillusioned with the state of the country. These mainstream political parties aren’t changing unless they are completely forced to by the public. It’s a protest vote nothing else 

It’s exactly how I feel. 
I hate the lot of them. 

[Joey J J Jr Shabadoo]

8 hours ago, jack D and coke said:

Arse licking is something Mandy will be no stranger to. Creepy nonce🤮

That is an unprovable slur.

 

 

[jack D and coke]

22 minutes ago, Joey J J Jr Shabadoo said:

That is an unprovable slur.

 

 

Stayed at Epsteins after he’d been convicted  of sex offences and was in jail too. 
Absolute nonce. 
Typical British state noncery. 

[Joey J J Jr Shabadoo]

Just now, jack D and coke said:

Stayed at Epsteins after he’d been convicted  of sex offences and was in jail too. 
Absolute nonce. 
Typical British state noncery. 

[Sooperstar]

If you want to make a protest vote then find your local independent candidate who has views aligned to your own and vote for them. Voting for the guy from the party of racists and bigots should be reserved for racists and bigots only.

 

Wasn't the Brexit vote meant to be a signal to the career politicians that 'people had had enough'? Did that improve the state of our politics or did it simply embolden more people to start spouting extreme views?

 

If you really think voting Reform will improve things in the short, medium or long term then you are a simpleton.

[Dido of Consequence]

53 minutes ago, Sooperstar said:

If you want to make a protest vote then find your local independent candidate who has views aligned to your own and vote for them. Voting for the guy from the party of racists and bigots should be reserved for racists and bigots only.

 

Wasn't the Brexit vote meant to be a signal to the career politicians that 'people had had enough'? Did that improve the state of our politics or did it simply embolden more people to start spouting extreme views?

 

If you really think voting Reform will improve things in the short, medium or long term then you are a simpleton.

[il Duce McTarkin]

6 hours ago, Sooperstar said:

If you want to make a protest vote then find your local independent candidate who has views aligned to your own and vote for them. Voting for the guy from the party of racists and bigots should be reserved for racists and bigots only.

 

Wasn't the Brexit vote meant to be a signal to the career politicians that 'people had had enough'? Did that improve the state of our politics or did it simply embolden more people to start spouting extreme views?

 

If you really think voting Reform will improve things in the short, medium or long term then you are a simpleton.

 

[Costanza]

Labour were undoubtedly dealt the ultimate hospital pass from the Tories but it's no surprise that Starmer and Reeves who have built political careers out of untruths and not having any real political ideology other than sticking it to the left of the party and obtaining power have been crap.

A governance of a slightly better managed decline of the UK was always going to benefit populists like Reform.

However voting for them as a protest vote just reminds me of the Stewart Lee quote on UKIP:

 

"A protest vote for UKIP is like sh1tting your hotel bed as a protest against bad service, then realising you now have to sleep in a sh1tted bed."

[Lone Striker]

The latest from Jonathan  Pie.  

 

 

[Chairman of the Bored]

On 31/01/2025 at 22:54, Sooperstar said:

If you really think voting Reform will improve things in the short, medium or long term then you are a simpleton.

Have you met the average punter? Simpleton is a compliment to the wobbling lard-arses of English - and increasingly Welsh and Scottish - dead end towns.

[Gundermann]

Interesting though a tad depressing.

 

Tory/ Reform or Labour rainbow coalition with Dems, SNP, Greens and Plaid w/ Indyref2 offered, if they can better the other two?

 

Edited February 1, 2025 by Gundermann

[Geoff Kilpatrick]

1 hour ago, Gundermann said:

Interesting though a tad depressing.

 

Tory/ Reform or Labour rainbow coalition with Dems, SNP, Greens and Plaid w/ Indyref2 offered, if they can better the other two?

 

Add in the DUP and Fartrage could be in government.

[ƒιѕнρℓαρѕ]

2 hours ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said:

Add in the DUP and Fartrage could be in government.

 

I think he's a shoe in

[il Duce McTarkin]

6 hours ago, Lone Striker said:

The latest from Jonathan  Pie.  

 

 

 

Truth bullets.

[il Duce McTarkin]

6 hours ago, Ally said:

Have you met the average punter? Simpleton is a compliment to the wobbling lard-arses of English - and increasingly Welsh and Scottish - dead end towns.

 

Yup.

[Gundermann]

6 hours ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said:

Add in the DUP and Fartrage could be in government.

 

Forgot about them. The dinosaur-deniers propping up another UK govt that's barely heard of NI.

[Gundermann]

[Chairman of the Bored]

8 hours ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said:

Add in the DUP and Fartrage could be in government.

I have a bet with my mate that Farage will be PM, even for a short time, by 2030.

[Cade]

Keef's New New Labour are making the same mistakes that the Democrats made in the USA.

All they know is "business as usual" even though it is that exact state of affairs that the people are railing against.

They're way too close to big business and all they know is orthodox Thatcherite economic policy.

They are fundamentally incapable of thinking outside this box.

GDP and FTSE figures going up is all that matters to these blinkered idiots.

 

The people are crying out for change and they'll vote for ANY change, even if that's open fascism.

 

[Lone Striker]

2 hours ago, Cade said:

Keef's New New Labour are making the same mistakes that the Democrats made in the USA.

All they know is "business as usual" even though it is that exact state of affairs that the people are railing against.

They're way too close to big business and all they know is orthodox Thatcherite economic policy.

They are fundamentally incapable of thinking outside this box.

GDP and FTSE figures going up is all that matters to these blinkered idiots.

 

The people are crying out for change and they'll vote for ANY change, even if that's open fascism.

 

Some valid comments regarding Labour, imo.  However,  if you think Labour & USA Dems are too cosy with big business, why would that be a reason to vote Tory/Reform/Trump - the original enablers of big business with ongoing policies to reduce their business taxes ?   

 

tbf, meddling with "big business tax" policy is a no-win since most big companies are multi-national

 

Policy of  low taxation  = attracts big companies from abroad to invest and employ folk in the UK, can sometimes be good for economic growth  but annoys lefties who want to soak the rich

 

Policy of  high-taxation = some  big companies down-size their UK ops/workforce to move them abroad, often doesn't help economic growth. 

[mikeralston]

They are finished as are the Tories.  Reform will clean up

[Tazio]

2 minutes ago, mikeralston said:

They are finished as are the Tories.  Reform will clean up

The party that lure in halfwits with sound bites they can’t back up. Excellent. 

[mikeralston]

Just now, Tazio said:

The party that lure in halfwits with sound bites they can’t back up. Excellent. 

Yea, I did say labour in my post. 

[jack D and coke]

15 hours ago, Lone Striker said:

The latest from Jonathan  Pie.  

 

 

I love it when an English guy fillets Thatcher. 
You’re not allowed to say that up here cos your bitter or mammies or some other demented shite. 

[Tazio]

10 minutes ago, mikeralston said:

Yea, I did say labour in my post. 

And I clearly meant Reform. A bunch of chancers with shady past on the whole. 

[Lone Striker]

10 minutes ago, redjambo said:

 

1 and 5 for me. They haven't had enough time yet to enact change or keep promises for the others.

 

1 in particular was a case of shooting themselves in the foot. A spectacular piece of faulty decision-making.

Just out of interest.... what does 5 actually mean ? Or what did you think it meant when you said 5 ?

[Cade]

7 hours ago, Gundermann said:

 

1) Scrap the winter fuel allowance entirely and replace it with strict price caps on properties 100% occupied by retirees (or retirees and registered carers) 
Saves the Government a bundle and it's fair.

2) Lower the energy price caps. Ignore the useless "regulator" recommendations, over-rule it and lower the price cap on energy for both business and residential properties.
Could (and should) go further and nationalise all energy companies so they can be run on lower profits, with those profits being used to fund....

3) Windfall tax the profiteering energy, water, supermarket and other sectors with a 100% windfall tax. Nationalise energy, water and some others.
Use the money to fund local Councils and the NHS. As we're on the subject of the NHS, fully renationalise it again. Scrap all the semi private contracts. Strict price caps on drugs.

4) 1,2 and 3 should take care of this.

 

5) See above. 

[ƒιѕнρℓαρѕ]

4 minutes ago, Cade said:

 

1) Scrap the winter fuel allowance entirely and replace it with strict price caps on properties 100% occupied by retirees (or retirees and registered carers) 
Saves the Government a bundle and it's fair.

2) Lower the energy price caps. Ignore the useless "regulator" recommendations, over-rule it and lower the price cap on energy for both business and residential properties.
Could (and should) go further and nationalise all energy companies so they can be run on lower profits, with those profits being used to fund....

3) Windfall tax the profiteering energy, water, supermarket and other sectors with a 100% windfall tax. Nationalise energy, water and some others.
Use the money to fund local Councils and the NHS. As we're on the subject of the NHS, fully renationalise it again. Scrap all the semi private contracts. Strict price caps on drugs.

4) 1,2 and 3 should take care of this.

 

5) See above. 

 

A nationalised pharmaceutical company that provides to the NHS at cost.

[Lone Striker]

15 minutes ago, redjambo said:

 

As one example, do you know all those billions of Covid money that went into the pockets of unscrupulous chancers, mostly in procurement but also those claiming excessive unjustified compensatory sums for the companies they ran? Labour haven't moved quickly or broadly enough on the issue, imo. Fat cats will always remain fat cats, particularly when so many politicians are on the gravy train themselves.

 

https://www.transparency.org.uk/news/new-research-raises-corruption-questions-over-billions-covid-public-spending

Ah ok.....  I hadn't considered it included a good old "mone"   at the Covid "business opportunity"

"  

[Lone Striker]

10 minutes ago, Cade said:

 

1) Scrap the winter fuel allowance entirely and replace it with strict price caps on properties 100% occupied by retirees (or retirees and registered carers) 
Saves the Government a bundle and it's fair.

2) Lower the energy price caps. Ignore the useless "regulator" recommendations, over-rule it and lower the price cap on energy for both business and residential properties.
Could (and should) go further and nationalise all energy companies so they can be run on lower profits, with those profits being used to fund....

3) Windfall tax the profiteering energy, water, supermarket and other sectors with a 100% windfall tax. Nationalise energy, water and some others.
Use the money to fund local Councils and the NHS. As we're on the subject of the NHS, fully renationalise it again. Scrap all the semi private contracts. Strict price caps on drugs.

4) 1,2 and 3 should take care of this.

 

5) See above. 

The "How would you vote now" poll should have included the Cade Party - it would get my vote !!!  

[mikeralston]

58 minutes ago, Tazio said:

And I clearly meant Reform. A bunch of chancers with shady past on the whole. 

Just pointing out it could be any of them.  

[Chairman of the Bored]

8 hours ago, Gundermann said:

 

1 was a necessary evil.

 

2-5 would have happened no matter who won. It's not a Labour thing. It's a politics thing.

[Gerry1874]

3 hours ago, Tazio said:

The party that lure in halfwits with sound bites they can’t back up. Excellent. 

Like vote SNP for an independent Scotland...

[The Real Maroonblood]

26 minutes ago, Gerry1874 said:

Like vote SNP for an independent Scotland...

You had a nightmare on the Prince Nonce thread so now trying to deflect on this thread.

[Gerry1874]

17 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

You had a nightmare on the Prince Nonce thread so now trying to deflect on this thread.

Not really laughing my head off our how easy the kickback Celtic contingent can get triggered. Growing men snapping away at a sentence...

[Tazio]

33 minutes ago, Gerry1874 said:

Not really laughing my head off our how easy the kickback Celtic contingent can get triggered. Growing men snapping away at a sentence...

I stopped growing a long time ago. Though a bit of you probably grows a wee bit when you see a union flag. 

[The Real Maroonblood]

49 minutes ago, Gerry1874 said:

Not really laughing my head off our how easy the kickback Celtic contingent can get triggered. Growing men snapping away at a sentence...

[Jeffros Furios]

2 hours ago, Gerry1874 said:

Not really laughing my head off our how easy the kickback Celtic contingent can get triggered. Growing men snapping away at a sentence...

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