il Duce McTarkin Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 10 hours ago, Mikey1874 said: Would, would, wouldn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 I'm just wondering where on the shitness scale sit: 1. A governing party heading for their worst defeat in their entire history? 2. Another governing party who despite the UK being completely, demonstrably broken in every conceivable way, have somehow not only failed to make the case for Scottish independence, but are in trouble in the Scottish polls, will lose loads of seats at the general election, and think anyone who can understand biology for dummies is a "bigot"? 3. Not one, but two historically dominant parties, both of whom stand for absolutely nothing, are both well behind the former political wing of the IRA (plenty of whom believe is still run by an army council), and whose Prime Minister resigned today after being annihilated in not one, but two referenda which should've been about as difficult to win as kicking a blind man's walking stick away? Amazing OP. Really astonishing stuff. Written at a time the Tory meltdown was well underway, and Labour were already taking advantage. They're now heading for their fourth landslide victory in history. Truly 'shit', obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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XB52 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 hour ago, shaun.lawson said: I'm just wondering where on the shitness scale sit: 1. A governing party heading for their worst defeat in their entire history? 2. Another governing party who despite the UK being completely, demonstrably broken in every conceivable way, have somehow not only failed to make the case for Scottish independence, but are in trouble in the Scottish polls, will lose loads of seats at the general election, and think anyone who can understand biology for dummies is a "bigot"? 3. Not one, but two historically dominant parties, both of whom stand for absolutely nothing, are both well behind the former political wing of the IRA (plenty of whom believe is still run by an army council), and whose Prime Minister resigned today after being annihilated in not one, but two referenda which should've been about as difficult to win as kicking a blind man's walking stick away? Amazing OP. Really astonishing stuff. Written at a time the Tory meltdown was well underway, and Labour were already taking advantage. They're now heading for their fourth landslide victory in history. Truly 'shit', obviously. Aw xxxx, he's back. God bless the ignore function Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted March 21 Author Share Posted March 21 The UK needs big ideas to transform its economy and to develop the economic and social wellbeing of the British people. What's on offer from Labour? Penny ante tuppeny ha'penny stuff, that's what. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/mar/20/the-guardian-view-on-labours-economic-plans-a-response-too-small-for-the-challenge-the-uk-faces?CMP=share_btn_url Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey J J Jr Shabadoo Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 11 hours ago, XB52 said: Aw xxxx, he's back. God bless the ignore function Nothing to say about the most scittery, shitty party going, the Lib Dems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 7 hours ago, Ulysses said: The UK needs big ideas to transform its economy and to develop the economic and social wellbeing of the British people. What's on offer from Labour? Penny ante tuppeny ha'penny stuff, that's what. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/mar/20/the-guardian-view-on-labours-economic-plans-a-response-too-small-for-the-challenge-the-uk-faces?CMP=share_btn_url I thought Stephen Flynn absolutely nailed it yesterday in the HoC when he called them 'born again Thatcherites' the melt down when people realise it's the same shit under a different rosette would bhe glorious to witness if it wasn't so damaging for the country. It'll be 19 years of austerity and shit economic policy utterly bereft of any ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Bye you twerp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 SHAN DOT LIARSON’S back. Don’t you have any more Jewish celebrities to libel m8? Owen Jones leaving the Labour Party is like Tesco discontinuing its own range line of dishwasher tablets big news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted March 21 Author Share Posted March 21 3 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said: I thought Stephen Flynn absolutely nailed it yesterday in the HoC when he called them 'born again Thatcherites' the melt down when people realise it's the same shit under a different rosette would bhe glorious to witness if it wasn't so damaging for the country. It'll be 19 years of austerity and shit economic policy utterly bereft of any ideas. I've just realised I spelt tuppence wrong - which will probably make roughly the same contribution to the UK's desperately needed recovery as Labour will in government. Effing autocorrect, eh? 🤷♂️ Still, at least people can take comfort from the fact that the dildo being used to horse them senseless will have a Labour logo on it for a change. Then, sometime in 2029, they can vote the other lot back in. I believe the appropriate expression is "onwards and upwards". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted March 21 Author Share Posted March 21 1 hour ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: Tesco discontinuing its own range line of dishwasher tablets Say it ain't so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueRiver Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Stephen Flynn is a wank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 3 hours ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: SHAN DOT LIARSON’S back. Don’t you have any more Jewish celebrities to libel m8? Owen Jones leaving the Labour Party is like Tesco discontinuing its own range line of dishwasher tablets big news They haven't have they? I swear by Tesco's dishwasher tablets - they're excellent! Please tell me it's not true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 2 hours ago, Ulysses said: Say it ain't so. Oops , didn't notice that you will be affected by this too if it is true. Awful news. I might just go back to bed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted March 21 Author Share Posted March 21 45 minutes ago, redjambo said: Oops , didn't notice that you will be affected by this too if it is true. Awful news. I might just go back to bed. Modern life is just crap, man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 (edited) 4 hours ago, Ulysses said: I believe the appropriate expression is "onwards and upwards". I believe the appropriate response is 'Fair comment' followed by this followed by 4 pages of the screechbot chuntering utter pish. Edited March 21 by The Mighty Thor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 11 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: I believe the appropriate response is 'Fair comment' followed by this followed by 4 pages of the screechbot chuntering utter pish. Ok mighty throbber 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costanza Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Owen Jones triggering a hell of a lot folk today and as usual most playing the man, not the ball. He's mostly spot on in his assessment of Starmer that fundamentally he represents a slightly less worse managed decline than the Tories, albeit decidedly less toxic and mad. Rachel Reeves also has to be one of the most deeply unimpressive senior political figures I've ever seen. "We're going to grow the economy" seems to be all she has to offer. Yeah, but it's not going to be Chinese style growth so what fiscal headroom is there really going to be Rachel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 15 hours ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Ok mighty throbber 😎 Fair comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundermann Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 16 hours ago, Costanza said: Owen Jones triggering a hell of a lot folk today and as usual most playing the man, not the ball. He's mostly spot on in his assessment of Starmer that fundamentally he represents a slightly less worse managed decline than the Tories, albeit decidedly less toxic and mad. Rachel Reeves also has to be one of the most deeply unimpressive senior political figures I've ever seen. "We're going to grow the economy" seems to be all she has to offer. Yeah, but it's not going to be Chinese style growth so what fiscal headroom is there really going to be Rachel? Haven't seen much of Jones in recent years but he's spot on with that assessment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundermann Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Abbot obviously not beyond scrutiny but I reckon she's right here. Starmer lavishing praise on Thatcher, and now Boris Johnson FFS, will see his party of drones Hibs it in Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Michael Gove nails it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Malinga the Swinga Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 6 hours ago, manaliveits105 said: Michael Gove nails it They're on the way out. Far too much infighting, back stabbing and mistrust with electorate to win next election. They've also been in power to long and need a kick in the bollocks. The same goes for Scottish government. Time for a change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedy Jambo Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 I dunno why people bother voting, they're all a bunch of lying *******s. If everyone stopped voting, that would soon sort the the lot of them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 Are Labour still alive ? Have they said anything about anything lately ? just wait till they have to actually come up with stuff other than it's the Tories fault. (See the party formerly known as snp for how that pans out) They would probably just continue with Tory policies anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 Quite funny to see Labour out trolling the worst of the trolls. 👆 I do admire their patience. The less they bite the more anxious the trollbots get. 👏 Well played and something of a learning point 👌 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 So a couple of aberdeen ,labour students members of the labour student executive had to quit from the party after liking posts from the far right race hating Britian first party . 20 labour councillors in Lancashire quit the party accusing labour leader of acting in an Authoritarian way . Other labour branches taking the head office to court accusing the leadership of fixing candidate selection votes as the labour leadership removes most of the left of the labour party . Labour might not be as united as it seems . While they will romp the election ,There is a lot of scope to reduce the size of lead , once the proper campaign starts and possible fissures are opened up under proper scrutiny of the party and the policies . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundermann Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 27 minutes ago, ToadKiller Dog said: So a couple of aberdeen ,labour students members of the labour student executive had to quit from the party after liking posts from the far right race hating Britian first party . 20 labour councillors in Lancashire quit the party accusing labour leader of acting in an Authoritarian way . Other labour branches taking the head office to court accusing the leadership of fixing candidate selection votes as the labour leadership removes most of the left of the labour party . Labour might not be as united as it seems . While they will romp the election ,There is a lot of scope to reduce the size of lead , once the proper campaign starts and possible fissures are opened up under proper scrutiny of the party and the policies . They've lost a shitload of members too. This from last year but another 21k was reported last week. Lots of formerly Tory donors have switched to Starmer though. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-members-keir-starmer-accounts-b2398663.html Labour less about activists pounding the streets out of principle and more just a drone operated by rich men who flit between Tory and Labour depending on who has the best PR and can thus represent their interests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted April 6 Author Share Posted April 6 36 minutes ago, Gundermann said: They've lost a shitload of members too. "Lost" makes it sound as if it happened by accident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gundermann Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 Harris hitting the nail on the head. That "middle ground" of politics in the UK just keeps on getting further to the right. Never mind Corbyn, even Kinnock would seem like Lenin in comparison. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/apr/08/tory-party-labour-britain-power Quote Which brings me to my final source of anxiety. Keir Starmer’s technocratic approach to politics has obviously worked short-term electoral wonders, but it has also left a space that the re-energised post-Brexit right will sooner or later move to occupy: the one reserved for emotion, stories and narratives about what Britain is. Worse still, in the absence of those things, some Labour people are already filling the gap with some very dangerous messages. Last week, the Daily Express published a piece by Josh Simons, the director of the very influential Labour thinktank Labour Together, about immigration policy – peppered with the kind of tropes that any rightwing Tory would happily endorse. The government, he said, “have not made the average working family better off, just increased our population”. Migrants “should contribute to the pot before they take from it”, and “homes should be built for British citizens before those who live here temporarily”. Here, perhaps, was a lesson so far unlearned: that no matter how dishevelled and discredited some people may seem, if you parrot their lines, you may yet allow them to recover and come roaring back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundermann Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 On 06/04/2024 at 20:58, Ulysses said: 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehcaley Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 17 minutes ago, Gundermann said: Harris hitting the nail on the head. That "middle ground" of politics in the UK just keeps on getting further to the right. Never mind Corbyn, even Kinnock would seem like Lenin in comparison. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/apr/08/tory-party-labour-britain-power And they are so shit they will take loads of seats and votes from a Centralist Blairite SNP🤪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 Labour are now where Thatcher's tories were in the 80s. Real Labour people in England must despair at their choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundermann Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 (edited) 2 hours ago, ehcaley said: And they are so shit they will take loads of seats and votes from a Centralist Blairite SNP🤪 Recent polls show SNP set to take 41 seats in Scotland. Quite a healthy majority, no? Am not SNP but it's interesting that the party is fascist, communist and now centralist Blairite. All in one? Incredible work. Yon Harris is an English journo btw and article deals chiefly with the English battleground. Edited April 8 by Gundermann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 … Raise the scarlet standard high Beneath its folds we'll live and die Though cowards flinch and traitors sneer We'll vote the red tories in up here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 2 hours ago, manaliveits105 said: … Raise the scarlet standard high Beneath its folds we'll live and die Though cowards flinch and traitors sneer We'll vote the red tories in up here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehcaley Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 6 hours ago, Gundermann said: Recent polls show SNP set to take 41 seats in Scotland. Quite a healthy majority, no? Am not SNP but it's interesting that the party is fascist, communist and now centralist Blairite. All in one? Incredible work. Yon Harris is an English journo btw and article deals chiefly with the English battleground. You might not be SNP but we know where your sympathies are,after all you hum along with the Green Brigade😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 15 hours ago, manaliveits105 said: … Raise the scarlet standard high Beneath its folds we'll live and die Though cowards flinch and traitors sneer We'll vote the red tories in up here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 17 hours ago, XB52 said: Labour are now where Thatcher's tories were in the 80s. Real Labour people in England must despair at their choices. Labour are nowhere near where they used to be they USED to be a party for the working person. quite when they morphed into a party for those who dont work is the issue. The SNP have taken up that mantle in scotland. large scale state intervention instead of making work pay the state loves dependence , and discourages personal agency Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 20 minutes ago, doctor jambo said: Labour are nowhere near where they used to be they USED to be a party for the working person. quite when they morphed into a party for those who dont work is the issue. The SNP have taken up that mantle in scotland. large scale state intervention instead of making work pay the state loves dependence , and discourages personal agency What a load of absolute bollocks. How can you seriously post tripe like this ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundermann Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 10 hours ago, ehcaley said: You might not be SNP but we know where your sympathies are,after all you hum along with the Green Brigade😉 Great tunes, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundermann Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 1 hour ago, doctor jambo said: Labour are nowhere near where they used to be they USED to be a party for the working person. quite when they morphed into a party for those who dont work is the issue. The SNP have taken up that mantle in scotland. large scale state intervention instead of making work pay the state loves dependence , and discourages personal agency Unless you're a banker or rich business entity in which case state socialism will bail you out. You'll fail upwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 21 minutes ago, Gundermann said: Unless you're a banker or rich business entity in which case state socialism will bail you out. You'll fail upwards. I agree with this . the working people are bailing out those at the top whose “efforts” are dwarfed by their remuneration, and the same at the other end. everyone else who does their bit and pays their dues are being taken for mugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joondalupjambo Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 7 hours ago, doctor jambo said: I agree with this . the working people are bailing out those at the top whose “efforts” are dwarfed by their remuneration, and the same at the other end. everyone else who does their bit and pays their dues are being taken for mugs A lot of younger, smarter folk have twigged. There is a generation out there not who are not being used and not following the old school thought. They have different views, different lifestyles and most certainly do not turn up and work 9 to 5. I understand where you are coming from, and why you say it but fear not change is happening out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 10 hours ago, doctor jambo said: Labour are nowhere near where they used to be they USED to be a party for the working person. quite when they morphed into a party for those who dont work is the issue. The SNP have taken up that mantle in scotland. large scale state intervention instead of making work pay the state loves dependence , and discourages personal agency From what I recall slashing benefits paid for the state bail put of the banking sector because Cameron and Osborne thought poor people should pay for the Greedy b'stards who crashed the economy. The state hasn't quite been so aggressive in its attempts to collect taxes from the filthy rich mind. Or hold chancers to account when they crash public utilities and services. Joe public forks out for that. I'd also like to see the state do more to make work pay. Doing away with zero hours contracts and ensuring everyone in work receives a living wage would be a good place to start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 44 minutes ago, i wish jj was my dad said: From what I recall slashing benefits paid for the state bail put of the banking sector because Cameron and Osborne thought poor people should pay for the Greedy b'stards who crashed the economy. The state hasn't quite been so aggressive in its attempts to collect taxes from the filthy rich mind. Or hold chancers to account when they crash public utilities and services. Joe public forks out for that. I'd also like to see the state do more to make work pay. Doing away with zero hours contracts and ensuring everyone in work receives a living wage would be a good place to start. No argument from me. I don’t understand why benefits are used to pay people working for large profitable companies . it stinks. living wage should be mandatory there should be proper legislation that after a year all zero hour and self employed contracts should be made permanent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punks No Deid Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 1 minute ago, doctor jambo said: No argument from me. I don’t understand why benefits are used to pay people working for large profitable companies . it stinks. living wage should be mandatory there should be proper legislation that after a year all zero hour and self employed contracts should be made permanent 2 sensible rational posts - jeez am I on the correct thread/forum 🤷🏻♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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