The Mighty Thor Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 minute ago, theshed said: Might be a bit bother down holyrood later as I passed no long ago and SNP folk on one side and handful of others with union jacks on other side of the road There generally is when the unionist knuckle draggers come out to 'celebrate' their momentous victories. See George Square 2014. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 minute ago, theshed said: Might be a bit bother down holyrood later as I passed no long ago and SNP folk on one side and handful of others with union jacks on other side of the road The BBC has just estimated the pro leave side at 300! Mind you, it is chilly and Edinburgh is a Unionist city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 minute ago, pablo said: The BBC has just estimated the pro leave side at 300! Mind you, it is chilly and Edinburgh is a Unionist city. That's enough to shout "mandate" in the eyes of the SNP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: Au contraire. The ERG and the Brexit headbangers were around in 2014. They'd been around since 1974. Call me Dave knew he'd have to address them and deal with it. He didn't dream up the Brexit referendum on hogmanay 2015. Like all the other 'project fear' bullshit of 2014 it dissolves on contact with scrutiny. Yes the ERG mob were around in 2014 - but there was no groundswell of opinion in the leadup to Indyref that their minority position would get anywhere. The commitment to hold the EU ref only came into being in Cameron's manifesto for the 2015 GE, and then only if a renegotiation on freedom of movement couldn't be achieved. You can blame "Project Fear" all you like, but the EU ref result showed that a "Project Fear" can be overcome if a majority of an electorate vote against it (the electorate being the whole of the UK) - that should give some comfort to uber-Nats like yourself, no ? Edited November 23, 2022 by Lone Striker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, theshed said: Might be a bit bother down holyrood later as I passed no long ago and SNP folk on one side and handful of others with union jacks on other side of the road Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jamboy1982 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Dazo said: I don’t know a single person who voted with staying in the EU on their mind. It’s a myth made up to try and justify another vote. Literally thousands of polish, Hungarians who now call Scotland their home did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 12 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Shoe-horning in irrelevant pish as per. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 hour ago, The Mighty Thor said: It was a central plank of the last referendum. The only way to stay in the EU was to stay in the UK. Trotted out by Dave, Milliband, Broon, Clegg and all the branch office bods as nauseum. It's not a myth then is it? Not like you to be on the wrong side of it Dazo 😂 You’re putting fires out all over the place buddy. 😂 If it’s you saying I’m on the wrong side then I’m probably doing okay Thor. 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBett365 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Today was an important day for the future of Scotland. A referendum next October would have been a narrow No. a referendum in 4/5 years will be a resounding Aye. Slowly slowly catchy monkey 👍🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Dazo said: You’re putting fires out all over the place buddy. 😂 If it’s you saying I’m on the wrong side then I’m probably doing okay Thor. 😊 I'm all good with that Dazo. Someone has to come on and keep you knee benders and WUM's in check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 2 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said: let the hate flow through you. 😂 The nurse needs to up his medication Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
151 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Nicola Sturgeon saying she is not giving up on democracy. I genuinely don't think there is a word to describe that level of irony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Proof if any required that the union establishment will never allow us the democratic route. The only way it seems from example is to throw them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 24 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: Shoe-horning in irrelevant pish as per. It’s not irrelevant to most women ! What a thing to say ! 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, 151 said: Nicola Sturgeon saying she is not giving up on democracy. I genuinely don't think there is a word to describe that level of irony. That's because there is no word . Because it is not ironic. It's stupid to think that devolution was not framed to stop independence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 I do wish the flag wavers would gtf . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 23 minutes ago, Dazo said: You’re putting fires out all over the place buddy. 😂 If it’s you saying I’m on the wrong side then I’m probably doing okay Thor. 😊 He’s lost the plot 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
151 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Ked said: I do wish the flag wavers would gtf . Not a flag waver at all. Democracy is asking the people what they want. They did. She didn't like it. But says she won't give up on democracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Tommy “ the tan “ Sheridan ( unfairly maligned as a swinger ) and Martin compston ( champagne snp ) at Glasgow George square ! Dearie me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: It’s not irrelevant to most women ! What a thing to say ! 😂 On a thread about independence and after today's decision on constitutional matters, then aye. It's irrelevant. Take it to your echo chamber thread where you can work yourself up on the minge issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 The Lord Advocate has come out of this well tbh. She was right to tell Sturgeon that the proposed bill related to a reserved matter, and held her ground. Fair play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briever Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Nice to get confirmation we are indeed a colony, that will please the subservient Yoons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 6 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: On a thread about independence and after today's decision on constitutional matters, then aye. It's irrelevant. Take it to your echo chamber thread where you can work yourself up on the minge issue. Lol 😂 “ the minge issue “ what a way to label women ! It was the principle of not listening to the “ will of the people “ when it suits ! You knew that though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Just now, briever said: Nice to get confirmation we are indeed a colony, that will please the subservient Yoons. Haha....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
151 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 I genuinely must be missing something. Folk on the news keep saying "they keep saying we are in a voluntary union..." We voted to stay in the ****ing union. Why is that so difficult to understand? Just because you didn't get what you wanted you can't call it undemocratic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 15 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: It’s not irrelevant to most women ! What a thing to say ! 😂 If it's not what little thorboy wanted to read, it's irrelevant. If it's not what SNP want, it's shoe horned. If it's not Peter Murrell's idea, it's not democracy. Them's the rules. You must have realised that by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Time for the First Minister to put a Scottish election to the people now, let's find out the result of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueRiver Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, 151 said: I genuinely must be missing something. Folk on the news keep saying "they keep saying we are in a voluntary union..." We voted to stay in the ****ing union. Why is that so difficult to understand? Just because you didn't get what you wanted you can't call it undemocratic. Spot on. I'm fed up hearing about how we're oppressed and hostage to the union. Boring negative pish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, 151 said: I genuinely must be missing something. Folk on the news keep saying "they keep saying we are in a voluntary union..." We voted to stay in the ****ing union. Why is that so difficult to understand? Just because you didn't get what you wanted you can't call it undemocratic. It's because the political principles on which the SNP relies, is that this is a voluntary Union. Of course it's not, as the today's ruling and readinh of the Scotland Act has proved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Placid Casual Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 minute ago, 151 said: I genuinely must be missing something. Folk on the news keep saying "they keep saying we are in a voluntary union..." We voted to stay in the ****ing union. Why is that so difficult to understand? Just because you didn't get what you wanted you can't call it undemocratic. Brexit happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 21 minutes ago, Ked said: I do wish the flag wavers would gtf . Sorry, who do you mean ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandjambo3 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 9 minutes ago, 151 said: I genuinely must be missing something. Folk on the news keep saying "they keep saying we are in a voluntary union..." We voted to stay in the ****ing union. Why is that so difficult to understand? Just because you didn't get what you wanted you can't call it undemocratic. Exactly this…….now let’s move on……….. (but you know we won’t) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Just now, Lone Striker said: Sorry, who do you mean ? All. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 11 minutes ago, briever said: Nice to get confirmation we are indeed a colony, that will please the subservient Yoons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
151 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Placid Casual said: Brexit happened. Okay? So had it been a yes vote, and the SNP did something that the No Voters of years previous didn't like, would there be another chance for a referendum to re-join the Union? Or does it only work one way? I amen't trying to come across as argumentative, or pro either side btw. And in all honesty alot of it goes right over my head as it is a complex situation and politics is just a mess for me to get my head around. I just wish the division and arguments to and fro year on year would piss off and my attitude towards it is, she asked - they answered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Just now, highlandjambo3 said: Exactly this…….now let’s move on……….. (but you know we won’t) Move on to what. More of the same band of oxbridge self serving idiots ? Let's move forward. Before we get sucked into this demise . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandjambo3 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Just now, Ked said: Move on to what. More of the same band of oxbridge self serving idiots ? Let’s move forward. Before we get sucked into this demise . Same thing no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hogfather Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, 151 said: I genuinely must be missing something. Folk on the news keep saying "they keep saying we are in a voluntary union..." We voted to stay in the ****ing union. Why is that so difficult to understand? Just because you didn't get what you wanted you can't call it undemocratic. For the sake of balance they went out and interviewed people in Glasgow, one of the only two cities in Scotland to vote Yes. I wonder what kind of responses they would have got if they'd interviewed people on the streets of Edinburgh, Perth, Aberdeen or Inverness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 12 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said: If it's not what little thorboy wanted to read, it's irrelevant. If it's not what SNP want, it's shoe horned. If it's not Peter Murrell's idea, it's not democracy. Them's the rules. You must have realised that by now. I know ! 11 minutes ago, H2 said: Time for the First Minister to put a Scottish election to the people now, let's find out the result of that. Good idea ! 11 minutes ago, BlueRiver said: Spot on. I'm fed up hearing about how we're oppressed and hostage to the union. Boring negative pish. Does my brain in . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 19 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Lol 😂 “ the minge issue “ what a way to label women ! It was the principle of not listening to the “ will of the people “ when it suits ! You knew that though Nah mate. Its about you spamming up threads with your pet project regardless of the relevance to the thread's topic. You knew that though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 minute ago, The Hogfather said: For the sake of balance they went out and interviewed people in Glasgow, one of the only two cities in Scotland to vote Yes. I wonder what kind of responses they would have got if they'd interviewed people on the streets of Edinburgh, Perth, Aberdeen or Inverness. They interviewed a guy in the street, sounded like an Aberdeen accent, who caledl Sturgeon the clown of a first minister. I'm surprised that they showed it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 15 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said: If it's not what little thorboy wanted to read, it's irrelevant. If it's not what SNP want, it's shoe horned. If it's not Peter Murrell's idea, it's not democracy. Them's the rules. You must have realised that by now. Thorboy? 😂 Oh you're card! At least you've managed to differentiate between your Mundells and your Murrells. It adds a brevity to the relentless pish you post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hogfather Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Just now, Nucky Thompson said: They interviewed a guy in the street, sounded like an Aberdeen accent, who caledl Sturgeon the clown of a first minister. I'm surprised that they showed it If Glasgow want to toddle off and become their own sovereign nation then good luck to them. They can take Dundee with them. I'd wager the number of people who're fed up of this same bullshit argument between two sets of complete bores would stand up against numbers from either side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 16 minutes ago, pablo said: It's because the political principles on which the SNP relies, is that this is a voluntary Union. Of course it's not, as the today's ruling and readinh of the Scotland Act has proved. It's hotel california union. You just can't leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Placid Casual Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, 151 said: Okay? So had it been a yes vote, and the SNP did something that the No Voters of years previous didn't like, would there be another chance for a referendum to re-join the Union? Or does it only work one way? I amen't trying to come across as argumentative, or pro either side btw. And in all honesty alot of it goes right over my head as it is a complex situation and politics is just a mess for me to get my head around. I just wish the division and arguments to and fro year on year would piss off and my attitude towards it is, she asked - they answered. Fair enough mate, but it’s not going to go away. Too many people want a better and fairer Scotland — and the best way to have that is to govern ourselves. The Tories have been in government at Westminster most of my life and I can’t get my head around why anyone would want them a second longer. And this version of the Tories is the worst yet — lying, corrupt shower of sh!t. They don’t give a **** about Scotland, or Wales, or Northern Ireland, or the north of England for that matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueRiver Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: It's hotel california union. You just can't leave. Forget 2014 though. I mind the lyric in the song talking about losing referendums right enough. Didn't convince enough of your countrymen then and the current clown isn't doing enough to now. It's been open goal after open goal to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: It's hotel california union. You just can't leave. Bet we could if enough people wanted it for long enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Just now, pablo said: Bet we could if enough people wanted it for long enough. Not without nanny's say so apparently. Its a conundrum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueRiver Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, pablo said: Bet we could if enough people wanted it for long enough. Easier to greet than sway more of the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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