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11 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

Sounds really crap.

 

Feeling hot and sweaty most of the time, mingled with occasional shivering spells of feeling cold. Aches and pains, completely drained of energy.

I wondered if the events of the shot itself had any any effect on that because she jabbed me twice. When she hit me with the first attempt I could feel it or at the very least some of it running down my arm.

She says, "never seen that before, something wrong with this one, I will get another". Thus I was jabbed twice. 

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1 minute ago, JFK-1 said:

 

Feeling hot and sweaty most of the time, mingled with occasional shivering spells of feeling cold. Aches and pains, completely drained of energy.

I wondered if the events of the shot itself had any any effect on that because she jabbed me twice. When she hit me with the first attempt I could feel it or at the very least some of it running down my arm.

She says, "never seen that before, something wrong with this one, I will get another". Thus I was jabbed twice. 

I hope you get better soon. 

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12 minutes ago, JFK-1 said:

 

Feeling hot and sweaty most of the time, mingled with occasional shivering spells of feeling cold. Aches and pains, completely drained of energy.

I wondered if the events of the shot itself had any any effect on that because she jabbed me twice. When she hit me with the first attempt I could feel it or at the very least some of it running down my arm.

She says, "never seen that before, something wrong with this one, I will get another". Thus I was jabbed twice. 

That sounds dodgy as you may have been given an overdose of it 

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3 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

That sounds dodgy as you may have been given an overdose of it 

 

I wondered about that too, but it's done now and I'm trying to look on the bright side by thinking well i'm more vaccinated than most.

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4 minutes ago, JFK-1 said:

 

I wondered about that too, but it's done now and I'm trying to look on the bright side by thinking well i'm more vaccinated than most.

Yes maybe ahead of the game ? Your still alive so that’s something 👍

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No shock the SNP are ploughing ahead with this despite the rest of the UK dropping it. Another hit on the finances of Scottish football and businesses due to their anti UK dogma and poor performance during the pandemic. They are my enemy more than any rival club. 

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Reading that people who have been vaccinated from outside Scotland wont be eligible to enter events.  Currently live in aus but come back start of November.  Been vaxxd with pfizor, cant believe this hasnt been raised yet.  Surely this will have to be resolved before it all goes live, must be thousands of people in this boat.

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8 hours ago, JackLadd said:

No shock the SNP are ploughing ahead with this despite the rest of the UK dropping it. Another hit on the finances of Scottish football and businesses due to their anti UK dogma and poor performance during the pandemic. They are my enemy more than any rival club. 

They don’t seem to bother about businesses really . That’s been evident with their constant closing down of hospitality . Harsh really . Well they might need to change their minds now furlough will be ending although they will probably siphon off that 1.2 billion being given to us for health for other things 

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9 hours ago, JackLadd said:

No shock the SNP are ploughing ahead with this despite the rest of the UK dropping it. Another hit on the finances of Scottish football and businesses due to their anti UK dogma and poor performance during the pandemic. They are my enemy more than any rival club. 

 

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/naturally-selected/201702/7-steps-becoming-dictator%3famp

 

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9 hours ago, JackLadd said:

No shock the SNP are ploughing ahead with this despite the rest of the UK dropping it. Another hit on the finances of Scottish football and businesses due to their anti UK dogma and poor performance during the pandemic. They are my enemy more than any rival club. 

 

England will be adopting it too if they experience a similar rise in hospitalisations.

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53 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

They don’t seem to bother about businesses really . That’s been evident with their constant closing down of hospitality . Harsh really . Well they might need to change their minds now furlough will be ending although they will probably siphon off that 1.2 billion being given to us for health for other things 

 

This is keeping hospitality open.

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13 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

This is keeping hospitality open.

It’s limiting hospitality customers so causing issues for them . 

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43 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

It’s limiting hospitality customers so causing issues for them . 

 

Not as much as closing them down for everyone. That's the alternative with hospitalisations hitting over 1k.

 

Would have thought you'd be happy about the SG trying to keep things open.

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So how will it work, proof of vaccine prior to buying ticket or showing proof when going in to game.

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2 hours ago, Ray Gin said:

 

Not as much as closing them down for everyone. That's the alternative with hospitalisations hitting over 1k.

 

Would have thought you'd be happy about the SG trying to keep things open.

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6 minutes ago, Harry Potter said:

So how will it work, proof of vaccine prior to buying ticket or showing proof when going in to game.

i want to know how it will work for me as i was vaccinated in england and will they accept nhs england proof. this will also affect the rugby autumn tests as people will travel from all over for the games at murrayfield

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2 hours ago, milky_26 said:

i want to know how it will work for me as i was vaccinated in england and will they accept nhs england proof. this will also affect the rugby autumn tests as people will travel from all over for the games at murrayfield

As long as you have proof of vaccination, should not matter if its England where you received it, i would have thought.

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18 hours ago, JackLadd said:

No shock the SNP are ploughing ahead with this despite the rest of the UK dropping it. Another hit on the finances of Scottish football and businesses due to their anti UK dogma and poor performance during the pandemic. They are my enemy more than any rival club. 

The UK government will change its mind again on passports. 

They are already regretting letting folk behave as if there was no pandemic. 

Dunno why I'm wasting my time with you. Your avatar says it all. 😏

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8 hours ago, milky_26 said:

i want to know how it will work for me as i was vaccinated in england and will they accept nhs england proof. this will also affect the rugby autumn tests as people will travel from all over for the games at murrayfield

 

SG have said as it stands, people vaccinated outside of Scotland will not be able to enter nightclubs and other venues that require vaccine passport. 

 

There may be a future solution to resolve this. 

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2 hours ago, TheOak88 said:

 

SG have said as it stands, people vaccinated outside of Scotland will not be able to enter nightclubs and other venues that require vaccine passport. 

 

There may be a future solution to resolve this. 

Killing hospitality yet again . They really have it in for that industry 

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So will cost upwards of £5k per game to admin plus stay away walk ups and restricted hospitality adds up to a £30k-50k a home game hit. Thanks SG. 

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1 hour ago, JackLadd said:

So will cost upwards of £5k per game to admin plus stay away walk ups and restricted hospitality adds up to a £30k-50k a home game hit. Thanks SG. 

 

Where are those figures from? Seems quite a lot.

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3 hours ago, JackLadd said:

So will cost upwards of £5k per game to admin plus stay away walk ups and restricted hospitality adds up to a £30k-50k a home game hit. Thanks SG. 

Plus possible refund of season tickets, some Fans will turn their back on the game aswell, or they might just go to smaller grounds whilst allowed so a plus for some clubs maybe.

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20 hours ago, TheOak88 said:

 

SG have said as it stands, people vaccinated outside of Scotland will not be able to enter nightclubs and other venues that require vaccine passport. 

 

There may be a future solution to resolve this. 

 

😂😂

 

Why are they so disorganised?!?

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Here's one for all you compliance buffs.

Wonder if they have shown their certificate, all got the jab, or their booster? 

Reality is we've all been played through a well planned world wide roll out in mind control and behavioural programming.

The virus has been the vehicle. It's always been about the vaccination even before the virus, let that sink in! 

 

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9 minutes ago, thewiseone said:

Here's one for all you compliance buffs.

Wonder if they have shown their certificate, all got the jab, or their booster? 

Reality is we've all been played through a well planned world wide roll out in mind control and behavioural programming.

The virus has been the vehicle. It's always been about the vaccination even before the virus, let that sink in! 

 

IMG_20210917_074735.jpg

Mind control ?? 

:cornette:

 

:gok:

:muggy:

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12 minutes ago, thewiseone said:

Here's one for all you compliance buffs.

Wonder if they have shown their certificate, all got the jab, or their booster? 

Reality is we've all been played through a well planned world wide roll out in mind control and behavioural programming.

The virus has been the vehicle. It's always been about the vaccination even before the virus, let that sink in! 

 

IMG_20210917_074735.jpg

 

:cornette_dog:

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16 minutes ago, thewiseone said:

Here's one for all you compliance buffs.

Wonder if they have shown their certificate, all got the jab, or their booster? 

Reality is we've all been played through a well planned world wide roll out in mind control and behavioural programming.

The virus has been the vehicle. It's always been about the vaccination even before the virus, let that sink in! 

 

IMG_20210917_074735.jpg

 

 

Good. As long as they've made me better at my job and at crosswords 👍

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15 minutes ago, thewiseone said:

Here's one for all you compliance buffs.

Wonder if they have shown their certificate, all got the jab, or their booster? 

Reality is we've all been played through a well planned world wide roll out in mind control and behavioural programming.

The virus has been the vehicle. It's always been about the vaccination even before the virus, let that sink in! 

 

IMG_20210917_074735.jpg


Ooft,you may be past saving mate.

I genuinely laughed out loud reading that pish 😂

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1 hour ago, thewiseone said:

Here's one for all you compliance buffs.

Wonder if they have shown their certificate, all got the jab, or their booster? 

Reality is we've all been played through a well planned world wide roll out in mind control and behavioural programming.

The virus has been the vehicle. It's always been about the vaccination even before the virus, let that sink in! 

 

IMG_20210917_074735.jpg

there is no vaccine certificates/passports in england so why would they show them for that meeting?

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On 15/09/2021 at 12:44, milky_26 said:

i want to know how it will work for me as i was vaccinated in england and will they accept nhs england proof. this will also affect the rugby autumn tests as people will travel from all over for the games at murrayfield

I think that the specially employed SG vaccine patrollers will take one look at your English vaccine passport and ensure you are marched off to board a special train to the east.

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1 hour ago, thewiseone said:

Here's one for all you compliance buffs.

Wonder if they have shown their certificate, all got the jab, or their booster? 

Reality is we've all been played through a well planned world wide roll out in mind control and behavioural programming.

The virus has been the vehicle. It's always been about the vaccination even before the virus, let that sink in! 

 

IMG_20210917_074735.jpg

 

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4 minutes ago, Nunya Business said:


Sensible move from the club. 

 

Not sure it is, those without season tickets often don't due to travel making it uneconomic...this impacts their ability to make travel arrangements for the Motherwell game which may impact attendance on the day.

 

I'm unclear on why the process would be any different on match day between someone with a season ticket vs someone with a match ticket?

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I’ve enjoyed the seethe this vaccine passport idea has caused but surely it isn’t going to go ahead - especially as a ****ing app or something on your phone :lol:  You’d get folk trying to get access to their NHS account etc holding everyone else up, it’s mental.  Would need to turn up to Tynie 24hours early 

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29 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

Losing money because of the clueless SNP.

 

Just admit Boris played you like a fiddle Sturgeon and U-turn on this stupid idea

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31 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

Losing money because of the clueless SNP.

 

Just admit Boris played you like a fiddle Sturgeon and U-turn on this stupid idea

Yup. She thought he was going all in and tried to beat him to it. Tragic wee woman so she is. 

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As I sit in lower Q, or not for now due to the ridiculously large red zone, I'm assuming they will still be issuing my replacement seat elsewhere as before. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Taffin said:

 

Not sure it is, those without season tickets often don't due to travel making it uneconomic...this impacts their ability to make travel arrangements for the Motherwell game which may impact attendance on the day.

 

I'm unclear on why the process would be any different on match day between someone with a season ticket vs someone with a match ticket?


None of which is the clubs fault. Evidently the Scottish government haven’t given any guidance on how this is going to work. 
 

I’m also sure checking 12,000 people is going to cause significantly less time than checking 16/17,000 people. 

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4 minutes ago, Nunya Business said:


None of which is the clubs fault. Evidently the Scottish government haven’t given any guidance on how this is going to work. 
 

I’m also sure checking 12,000 people is going to cause significantly less time than checking 16/17,000 people. 

They’ve already intimated they’ll do “ spot checks “ at grounds, i.e. a shambles ! 
An admission that they haven’t a clue how it will work.

Why the club don’t just go ahead and sell match day tickets is puzzling !

Calling the bluff of politicians will only affect people who want to go to the game and are unsure where they are !

Do they think the SG are going to suddenly have a lightbulb moment ?

 

Get the tickets on sale and let the politicians sort it out. We could, potentially, be out a few bob if this rumbles on to next week.

 

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18 minutes ago, Nunya Business said:


None of which is the clubs fault. Evidently the Scottish government haven’t given any guidance on how this is going to work. 
 

I’m also sure checking 12,000 people is going to cause significantly less time than checking 16/17,000 people. 

 

I'm not suggesting it's the clubs fault, it's not. I just don't think their solution is sensible, nor do I think the government are going to tell them how to do it or provide the people for it...that will be up to the club to work out and resource.

 

There will either be scanners and a way of working in place for it in time, or there won't. 12k or 17k isn't really here nor there, it will take more time of course but the process will be exactly the same so either advise matchday ticket holders to be there earlier for this game or ensure whatever the process is, is scaled up to meet the demand.

 

It may be that they don't think they can do that, which is understandable but I don't think potentially losing 5k 'walk ups' is what I'd consider sensible in anyone's book.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, indianajones said:

FFS Hearts that makes absolute zero sense. 

 

 

Don’t think any of the board have ever played Texas hold ‘em !

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1 hour ago, Boab said:

They’ve already intimated they’ll do “ spot checks “ at grounds, i.e. a shambles ! 
An admission that they haven’t a clue how it will work.

Why the club don’t just go ahead and sell match day tickets is puzzling !

Calling the bluff of politicians will only affect people who want to go to the game and are unsure where they are !

Do they think the SG are going to suddenly have a lightbulb moment ?

 

Get the tickets on sale and let the politicians sort it out. We could, potentially, be out a few bob if this rumbles on to next week.

 


Hearts, like most other businesses in Scotland, have to deal with the consequences of measures brought in by ScotGov through this pandemic. It’s not a case of calling anyone’s bluff. Hearts clearly don’t want to sell match tickets without a clear plan in place in how to limit the impact of these measures. 
 

And I’m sure they’re more than aware of the financial impact of this decision. More so than anyone on here. 
 

48 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

I'm not suggesting it's the clubs fault, it's not. I just don't think their solution is sensible, nor do I think the government are going to tell them how to do it or provide the people for it...that will be up to the club to work out and resource.

 

There will either be scanners and a way of working in place for it in time, or there won't. 12k or 17k isn't really here nor there, it will take more time of course but the process will be exactly the same so either advise matchday ticket holders to be there earlier for this game or ensure whatever the process is, is scaled up to meet the demand.

 

It may be that they don't think they can do that, which is understandable but I don't think potentially losing 5k 'walk ups' is what I'd consider sensible in anyone's book.

 

 


They already advise people to be in their seats by 2:30pm on a match day but you still see people rolling in with 5/10 minutes to go before kick off. Some even after the whistle has gone. I don’t think it’s going to be as simple as just rustling up another 40/50 stewards to do the checks (assuming roughly one extra per turnstile) either. If that resource isn’t there, then what’s the alternative?


It’s also possible they’ve decided against selling tickets because of the possibility of having to refund all the people who aren’t able to attend and the ensuing PR hassle it would cause. 

 

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1 minute ago, Nunya Business said:


Hearts, like most other businesses in Scotland, have to deal with the consequences of measures brought in by ScotGov through this pandemic. It’s not a case of calling anyone’s bluff. Hearts clearly don’t want to sell match tickets without a clear plan in place in how to limit the impact of these measures. 
 

And I’m sure they’re more than aware of the financial impact of this decision. More so than anyone on here. 
 


They already advise people to be in their seats by 2:30pm on a match day but you still see people rolling in with 5/10 minutes to go before kick off. Some even after the whistle has gone. I don’t think it’s going to be as simple as just rustling up another 40/50 stewards to do the checks (assuming roughly one extra per turnstile) either. If that resource isn’t there, then what’s the alternative? 

 

All good questions. I don't see how that gets resolved though by just waiting until the next home game. Those checking the tickets could also check the vaccine passports potentially? One way or the other, people are going to have to arrive earlier if they don't want to miss the match. People knew fine well previously they could rock up late and be fine, that's out the window now and they'll miss a large chunk of the game...that's no reason to restrict the sales to those who would be happy to turn up early though.

 

 

1 minute ago, Nunya Business said:


It’s also possible they’ve decided against selling tickets because of the possibility of having to refund all the people who aren’t able to attend and the ensuing PR hassle it would cause. 

 

 

Why would people be unable to attend in any significant way than normal? 

 

 

Either way I guess let's agree to disagree. I think it's a weird approach, you think it's sensible and realistically it doesn't really matter which it is as it is what they've chosen to do 👍

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31 minutes ago, Nunya Business said:


Hearts, like most other businesses in Scotland, have to deal with the consequences of measures brought in by ScotGov through this pandemic. It’s not a case of calling anyone’s bluff. Hearts clearly don’t want to sell match tickets without a clear plan in place in how to limit the impact of these measures. 
 

And I’m sure they’re more than aware of the financial impact of this decision. More so than anyone on here. 
 


They already advise people to be in their seats by 2:30pm on a match day but you still see people rolling in with 5/10 minutes to go before kick off. Some even after the whistle has gone. I don’t think it’s going to be as simple as just rustling up another 40/50 stewards to do the checks (assuming roughly one extra per turnstile) either. If that resource isn’t there, then what’s the alternative?


It’s also possible they’ve decided against selling tickets because of the possibility of having to refund all the people who aren’t able to attend and the ensuing PR hassle it would cause. 

 

I have sympathy with the club regarding this. They have to make a call, which I respect, but the statement is not only intended for our ears. It’s a broadside to the SG to get their finger out ! Fair play to them for that. 
As regards how it will go, I can see no other way than a spot check system. I just don’t think checking everyone is feasible. In a timeous way…impossible, so they’ll have to tell the clubs..em..now, what the rules are.

There are already rumours of clubs being asked to take “ all reasonable steps “ to ensure compliance !

So, I reiterate, sell match day tickets and put the ball in their court. 
Also, I think it’s naive to think this will be enforced across the board. 
60K at Parkhead, for example, will attest to that.

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