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JudyJudyJudy
8 hours ago, OTT said:


Yeah, I like her too. I think Sturgeon has built a clique if not borderline personality cult and even if Cherry did win she’d have an insurmountable task to undo what Sturgeon and her clique have done to the party. To make those sort of changes I think you need a support base, and I reckon most of them are now in Alba. 

Sturgeon is scared shitkess of Joanna, as Joanna is an extremely intelligent and  level headed politician . She’s not abrasive like her . I am still amazed That Joanna is still in the SNP due to all the shit thrown at her , no doubt orchestrated by Sturgeon . It’s very toxic . Her staying proves she is very much committed to Indy . 

8 hours ago, jack D and coke said:

I know Salmond is a marmite character and possibly forever tarnished but I felt much more for his SNP than this. His pushed and at least tried to paint a picture for what might be. You can disagree with everything he stood for and the white paper got plenty detractors but at least he tried to give you something. I have no idea what this SNP are offering…nothing has ever been fleshed out it’s the same questions as 8 years ago…the dial hasn’t been shifted one iota. 
Trying to proper bury Salmond and then good people like Joanna Cherry leave me a bit cold about them tbh. 
Salmond might well be noncey I make no defence of him. He was cleared though and there’s a stench about all that trying to get him put away. 
 

 

Yes Salmond for all his faults did raise the profile of Indy to new heights of popularity . Still wouldn’t be too sure about all the mud thrown at him either . 

8 hours ago, OTT said:


I completely agree. Salmonds SNP was a proper left wing party that had a vision and excelled at delivering it.  George Foulkes quote about Salmond deliberately making services in Scotland better exemplifies this. 
 

Sturgeon to me is a tartan Tory kidding us on shes left wing, meanwhile shes given neoliberal creeps like Angus Robertson, Stewart MacDonald and Alyn Smith Cart Blanche to make wholesale changes to the direction of the party backed up by troughers that couldn’t care less. YSI proudly adopting a pro Nato stance overseen by Smith is an example of this. They’ve never been pro nato and that’s clearly changed due to the leadership. 
 

It’s utterly unrecognisable to 2014 IMO. 
 

The sad thing is too many Alba activists and candidates aren’t savvy enough to calm down and focus on Alba instead of trashing the SNP. You can’t win peoples votes by telling them their wrong! 😂

Great posting 

8 hours ago, jack D and coke said:

I don’t think salmonds SNP was that left wing. He was pretty clever and pro business I thought and just seemed full of answers when pressed and clever quips. He pushed the movement and handed this lot something with momentum. 
He’s the last politician I actually liked I’ll be honest. 


 

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manaliveits105

The state of independence 

 

to quote Donna Summers 

:greggy:

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jack D and coke
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Where are you this morning? The Red Lion getting a full English watching re-runs of only fools and horses?

 

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11 hours ago, jack D and coke said:

Regardless of views on Salmond and now Alba at least they try to give you some sort of vision. It can be pulled apart and it’s there to be shot at for sure that’s fair do’s but show me anything that Sturgeons SNP have done in comparison in nearly 8 years. 
She’s an utter fraud. 


Salmond actually wanted independence. Wee Nic has used a dangled carrot to get a very nice pension. Thank **** I’m the mug and not one of those clever types.  😂

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jack D and coke
2 minutes ago, Dazo said:


Salmond actually wanted independence. Wee Nic has used a dangled carrot to get a very nice pension. Thank **** I’m the mug and not one of those clever types.  😂

It certainly looks that way aye😬

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Mikey1874

Greens finally getting something with Scottish Government saying it won't build any more roads. 

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jack D and coke
1 minute ago, Mikey1874 said:

Greens finally getting something with Scottish Government saying it won't build any more roads. 

This SNP’s self implosion continues. 

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Ray Gin
3 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said:

Greens finally getting something with Scottish Government saying it won't build any more roads. 

 

We won't need roads in an independent Scotland. Future tech only for this forward-thinking, pioneering nation.

 

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Mikey1874
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I see the shaving bits off the bottom of school doors has been abandoned. 

 

Maybe best after Scottish Government only paid out £1million from a £25 million fund to help businesses improve ventilation, rejecting more than half of the low number of applications.  

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59 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said:

Greens finally getting something with Scottish Government saying it won't build any more roads. 


Surely that can’t be any sort of commitment from the SG ? We won’t build any more roads, ever ? 😂

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Lord Montpelier
1 hour ago, Ray Gin said:

 

We won't need roads in an independent Scotland. Future tech only for this forward-thinking, pioneering nation.

 

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Agree. Need more flying cars to avoid all the potholes that no-one can be bothered filling in anymore

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manaliveits105
51 minutes ago, Dazo said:


Surely that can’t be any sort of commitment from the SG ? We won’t build any more roads, ever ? 😂

The Greens believe we shouldn’t move out a 12 mile radius from where we live 

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these crazy feckers would have us living like the Amish with horse and carts and bamboo bikes

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Japan Jambo
1 hour ago, manaliveits105 said:

The Greens believe we shouldn’t move out a 12 mile radius from where we live 

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these crazy feckers would have us living like the Amish with horse and carts and bamboo bikes

 

:rofl:

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6 hours ago, manaliveits105 said:

The Greens believe we shouldn’t move out a 12 mile radius from where we live 

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these crazy feckers would have us living like the Amish with horse and carts and bamboo bikes


bamboo bikes :lol:

 

 

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Ainsley Harriott

Anyone else find it peculiar that according to Nicola Sturgeon a rerun of lost referendum will happen in 2023 but a date, exact wording of the question and terms haven't been published? I'm confused its almost like she's stringing her suporters along....

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Placid Casual

I find it peculiar that you felt the need to start a new thread on it.

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The Real Maroonblood
9 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

Someone's getting a twitchy bum.

 

Tick tock.

:pleasing:

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The Mighty Thor
7 hours ago, Ray Gin said:

Someone's getting a twitchy bum.

 

Tick tock.

Probably their head up there causing a bit of discomfort. 

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9 hours ago, Ainsley Harriott said:

Anyone else find it peculiar that according to Nicola Sturgeon a rerun of lost referendum will happen in 2023 but a date, exact wording of the question and terms haven't been published? I'm confused its almost like she's stringing her suporters along....


You’ve picked the one thing that isn’t peculiar about Wee Nic. Stringing along is her thing. 

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Mikey1874
14 hours ago, Ainsley Harriott said:

Anyone else find it peculiar that according to Nicola Sturgeon a rerun of lost referendum will happen in 2023 but a date, exact wording of the question and terms haven't been published? I'm confused its almost like she's stringing her suporters along....

 

She knows it's over. Independence is finished for now. Not forever but not in next years. Maybe even Alex Salmond's 'generation'. 

 

It could be she is going through this (which includes eventually publishing the legal advice) to prepare the way for abandoning it without taking any responsibility. 

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22 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said:

 

She knows it's over. Independence is finished for now. Not forever but not in next years. Maybe even Alex Salmond's 'generation'. 

 

It could be she is going through this (which includes eventually publishing the legal advice) to prepare the way for abandoning it without taking any responsibility. 

 

Apparently releasing part 1 of a 3 part vision next week.

 

Expect vague soundbites rather than any detail on currency or borders etc.

 

Just another carrot to dangle in front of the minority. 

 

A vision :rofl:

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JudyJudyJudy

Germans for Scottish independence? Wtf ? 

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JudyJudyJudy
32 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said:

 

She knows it's over. Independence is finished for now. Not forever but not in next years. Maybe even Alex Salmond's 'generation'. 

 

It could be she is going through this (which includes eventually publishing the legal advice) to prepare the way for abandoning it without taking any responsibility. 

There seems to be zero urgency in requesting a section 30 which makes me very suspicious.  The legal wrangle around it will take a while then if granted preparation for a legal Indy ref . So it’s pie in the sky for next year really . 

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Nucky Thompson
33 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said:

Germans for Scottish independence? Wtf ? 

:rofl:

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1 hour ago, JudyJudyJudy said:

Germans for Scottish independence? Wtf ? 

 

I hear Anne Schluss is one of their more prominent members.

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JudyJudyJudy
9 minutes ago, jonesy said:

 

I hear Anne Schluss is one of their more prominent members.

Oh my ! That’s a Austrian drag queen name if ever there was 😂😂 maybe Anne Slutz 

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2 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said:

Oh my ! That’s a Austrian drag queen name if ever there was 😂😂 maybe Anne Slutz 

 

Making your Viennese whirl twice nightly and thrice on Saturdays. 

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JudyJudyJudy
1 minute ago, jonesy said:

 

Making your Viennese whirl twice nightly and thrice on Saturdays. 

😂. My Viennese whirl would more than a drag queen to make it whirl that much 

 

 

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Pans Jambo

& off we go:

 

Better together? - Nope!

Stay in EU? - Nope!

Pooling & Sharing? - Nope!

Brexit Dividend? - Nope!

Close to full Federalism? - Nope!

Pension Triple Lock? - Nope!

The most powerful devolved nation on earth (whatever that is)- Nope!

High Speed Rail Connecting the mainland home countries? - Nope!

EVEL? - Actually, Yes!

Corporate Head Offices and International Banks moving out of Scotland? - Nope (They're actually moving out of Brexit Britain)

Boris & continual tories anyone? - Nope!

Any good reason to stay in this shitehouse union? - Nope!

 

Bring it on the wee nippy lesbian or whatever the yoons are calling her this week!

 

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manaliveits105
18 minutes ago, Japan Jambo said:

 

Apparently a paper was launched today - https://www.gov.scot/newscotland/

As usual no answers to the key issues 

we have moved from what about the Tories to what about other independent countries though ay - oh and no date 

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Japan Jambo
6 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said:

Nobody does doing the deviant criminal like the snp :greggy:

 

we are just fortunate that it didn't involve tractor porn or he'd need to stand down triggering another by-election

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These MPs (past and present) all seem to be deviant crooks. 

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Japan Jambo
4 minutes ago, Imaman said:

These MPs (past and present) all seem to be deviant crooks. 

 

you honestly begin to wonder, place seem to attract arseholes like a magnet. Ferrier is up before the beak in August and clearly there is more to come;

 

"The Sunday Times reported earlier this year that 56 MPs face allegations ranging from making sexually inappropriate comments to more serious wrongdoing." Sky News today

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Smithee
23 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said:

As usual no answers to the key issues 

we have moved from what about the Tories to what about other independent countries though ay - oh and no date 

It fails to meet your expectations, no way, shocked I tells ya

 

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Pans Jambo
1 hour ago, Smithee said:

It fails to meet your expectations, no way, shocked I tells ya

 

Don't worry, he voted Yes last time apparently :rofl:

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manaliveits105
20 minutes ago, Pans Jambo said:

Don't worry, he voted Yes last time apparently :rofl:

Indeed then it turned out all their promises were bullshit and they still don’t have the answers plus are now led by a sycophantic plastic weegie 

 

 

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Pans Jambo
12 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said:

Indeed then it turned out all their promises were bullshit and they still don’t have the answers plus are now led by a sycophantic plastic weegie 

 

 

:facepalm: THEIR promises were bullshit aye?

 

Right you are! :rofl:

 

From my post above:

Better together? - Nope!

Stay in EU? - Nope!

Pooling & Sharing? - Nope!

Brexit Dividend? - Nope!

Close to full Federalism? - Nope!

Pension Triple Lock? - Nope!

The most powerful devolved nation on earth (whatever that is)- Nope!

High Speed Rail Connecting the mainland home countries? - Nope!

EVEL? - Actually, Yes!

Corporate Head Offices and International Banks moving out of Scotland? - Nope (They're actually moving out of Brexit Britain)

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Glad to see the document launched today. Started it at lunch and will look to finish it later. I personally don't find it well written (very repetitive of the same points as though written by numerous individuals then stitched together and not edited) but it's insightful so far and I'm looking forward to the additional papers to follow.

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Lord Montpelier
1 hour ago, Japan Jambo said:

 

you honestly begin to wonder, place seem to attract arseholes like a magnet. Ferrier is up before the beak in August and clearly there is more to come;

 

"The Sunday Times reported earlier this year that 56 MPs face allegations ranging from making sexually inappropriate comments to more serious wrongdoing." Sky News today

SNP supporters won't like it as they think their representatives are beyond reproach, but fact is they are all as bad as each other and politics seems to attracts more than its fair share of deviants and reprobates 

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4 minutes ago, pablo said:

It's all a bit Brexity

 

Is it?

 

Aiming to be like similar sized nations in proximity to yourself who outperform you on numerous metrics by building equality and reducing inequity whilst forming strong bonds with their geographic neighbours doesn't sound a lot like Brexit. Brexit to me sounded like, we don't need anyone else because we're already the best because we're Great Britain.

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Jonkel Hoon

I really do admire her abiility to string people along. Its really quite something.

 

 

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speaker

When is the next instalment released? You know the part when it gives us tangible information we can use to make a decision? 
 

 

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