Top European Soccer Teams Agree to Join Breakaway League

[Pasquale for King]

41 minutes ago, Berra than you said:

Think they would have a case for this for the upcoming euros as as you say, nobody will.have yet played in the ESL. Beyond that I'd imagine FIFA/UEFA can ban who they like.

Not in the EU, it’s a restriction of trade on both sides. 

[Pasquale for King]

39 minutes ago, Sooperstar said:

Ceferin has said he wants to ban the players as soon as possible and specifically called out the Euros this summer.

Ff posted this earlier 

Edited April 19, 2021 by Pasquale for King

[Ribble]

2 hours ago, kingantti1874 said:

I wonder if players “could” walk away from their contracts.? I’m not saying they would do this but I do wonder if they could do it.
 

 

They would need to at least sign new contracts as their existing contracts will be linked to UEFA/FIFA player registrations and will these days no doubt have clauses preventing the players from playing in non FIFA sanctioned competitions 

[Malinga the Swinga]

38 minutes ago, Sooperstar said:

Ceferin has said he wants to ban the players as soon as possible and specifically called out the Euros this summer.

Ceferin has a cheek calling anyone a snake. This is the man that is overseeing an expanded CL, enabling teams to qualify as they used to be good, but are a bit shit now. The competition where finishing 4th gets you seeded, possibly, into group stage from some leagues, but winning your own league in other countries means playing 4 qualifying rounds. 

This is a man who is sanctioned a third euro tournament for smaller countries cause he doesnt want them in the main ones. 

This us a man who refuses to do anything about racism in European football, preferring instead to ensure commercialism continues and his nose can stick in money trough for longer. This is a man who showed no leadership during Covid and was only concerned with sponsors getting value for their money. 

Is it a coincidence that these proposals come out day before CL reforms voted through?  Of course it isn't, he is as big a snake as anyone. 

[Footballfirst]

Monday 19th April 2021

 

SPFL STATEMENT

 

REACTION TO EUROPEAN SUPER LEAGUE  SPFL PLAYOFF PROPOSALS

 

Neil Doncaster, chief executive of the SPFL, commented: “The SPFL stands alongside UEFA, the SFA, the European Leagues, the Highland League, the English Premier League, the Lowland League, and the overwhelming majority of the game’s stakeholders in vehemently opposing the proposed European Super League. cancellation of the SPFL Playoff.

 

“These proposals, or any like them, would have an enormously damaging impact on the very fabric of our sport at all levels. It is no surprise they have been so swiftly and overwhelmingly condemned by fans the world over. 

 

“We believe that any such ‘competition’ would dramatically undermine the global appeal of football and would be financially catastrophic for all but a very tiny minority. 

 

“The proposals we have seen, assembled by a small, self-selected group of very wealthy self interested clubs, appear to be a cynical and very worrying attempt to thwart the core principle of sporting merit which rightly underpins European Scottish football.  They represent a clear and present danger to the sport we all love.

 

“Now, more than ever, given what we have all been through over the past year, governments, together with the game’s governing bodies and leagues, need to work together to do what is right and protect the very essence of the game.

 

“The SPFL stands ready to support all efforts to fight for the principles of solidarity, sporting competition and fairness which lie at the very heart of the game.”

[Tommy Brown]

Normally decent with numbers, hell, I have totally fathomed out the new WHS golf handicap system

But I cant for the life of me work out this.

 

Taking the total number of teams from 32 to 36 in the UEFA Champions League, the biggest change will see a transformation from the traditional group stage to a single league stage including all participating teams. Every club will now be guaranteed a minimum of 10 league stage games against 10 different opponents (five home games, five away) rather than the previous six matches against three teams, played on a home and away basis.

The top eight sides in the league will qualify automatically for the knockout stage, while the teams finishing in ninth to 24th place will compete in a two-legged play-off to secure their path to the last 16 of the competition.

[Berra than you]

22 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

Not in the EU, it’s a restriction of trade on both sides. 

Is it a restriction of trade? They are still being allowed to play football just out with UEFA or FIFA comps. Given many internationals don't get paid for euros or world cups might favour uefa. Besides, football contracts seem to be a rule into themselves anyway.

[Cruyff]

3 hours ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said:

No danger. One thing will remain constant about football - there will always be hypocrites.

I think he a man of principles. He's already stated his opposition previously as well as his political leanings. No danger he stays on if ESL happens. 

 

I actually think owners have forgotten their place and that all the real football men will either be walking or handing in transfer requests. Of course, there are always mercenary types who will do it for the money but I don't think everyone at the top level come into that category. 

 

3 hours ago, shaun.lawson said:

 

I agree. @Geoff Kilpatrick's eternal cynicism isn't always correct.

👍

[Brian Whittaker's Tache]

38 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

Not in the EU, it’s a restriction of trade on both sides. 

We're not in the EU anymore!

 

[Jamhammer]

Spurs 😀😀😀😀😀

Top European Club 😀😀😀😀😀

West Ham, Notts Forrest, Villa, Aberdeen FFS have all won a European trophy since they last did. (Unless you count UEFA Cup)

 

Edited April 19, 2021 by Jamhammer

[Seymour M Hersh]

4 hours ago, Heartsofgold said:

Every single team in the NFL is a city based franchise from the National Football League.  Family owned means nothing.  If the city does not pony up the readies for a new stadium and facilities, then the franchise moves a la San Diego and the Raiders in recent years.

 

I wasn't arguing otherwise. 

[The Future's Maroon]

The statement from knobhead Doncaster is an absolute joke.

[JackLadd]

Just now, Brian Whittaker's Tache said:

We're not in the EU anymore!

 

 

Yippee!!!!

[Footballfirst]

12 minutes ago, Tommy Brown said:

Normally decent with numbers, hell, I have totally fathomed out the new WHS golf handicap system

But I cant for the life of me work out this.

 

Taking the total number of teams from 32 to 36 in the UEFA Champions League, the biggest change will see a transformation from the traditional group stage to a single league stage including all participating teams. Every club will now be guaranteed a minimum of 10 league stage games against 10 different opponents (five home games, five away) rather than the previous six matches against three teams, played on a home and away basis.

The top eight sides in the league will qualify automatically for the knockout stage, while the teams finishing in ninth to 24th place will compete in a two-legged play-off to secure their path to the last 16 of the competition.

Each team will play 10 games against 10 different teams of variable ranking.  All 36 teams will be ranked (probably on club/country ranking/coefficient)

The Team ranked 1 may play teams ranked 3 (h), 7 (a) 10 (h) 14 (a) 18 (h) 21 (a) 25 (h) 28 (a) 32 (h) 36 (a)

Team 2  will have a similar program against ranked sides to provide a comparable programme of games.

Team 3 ditto .... etc

 

After 10 games you effectively have a league table of 36 teams.  The top 8 go through to the last 16 knockout stage.  Teams 9 to 24 play and additional playoff round with the winners proceeding to the last 16.  Knockout from there on to the final as before.

[JackLadd]

5 minutes ago, Jamhammer said:

Spurs 😀😀😀😀😀

Top European Club 😀😀😀😀😀

West Ham, Notts Forrest, Villa, Aberdeen FFS have all won a European trophy since they last did.

 

 

It's all about Wong and his chums watching from Wuhan in their Tottingham tops.

[SE16 3LN]

11 minutes ago, Brian Whittaker's Tache said:

We're not in the EU anymore!

 

😀

[Jeff]

6 minutes ago, The Future's Maroon said:

The statement from knobhead Doncaster is an absolute joke.

 

Reads fine...... If you have no idea who the man is 😂

[Tommy Brown]

6 minutes ago, The Future's Maroon said:

The statement from knobhead Doncaster is an absolute joke.

understand your sentiments, Practice what you preach.

 

SPFL STATEMENT

REACTION TO EUROPEAN SUPER LEAGUE PROPOSALS

Neil Doncaster, chief executive of the SPFL, commented: “The SPFL stands alongside UEFA, the European Leagues, the English Premier League and the overwhelming majority of the game’s stakeholders in vehemently opposing the proposed European Super League.

“These proposals, or any like them, would have an enormously damaging impact on the very fabric of our sport at all levels. It is no surprise they have been so swiftly and overwhelmingly condemned by fans the world over. 

“We believe that any such ‘competition’ would dramatically undermine the global appeal of football and would be financially catastrophic for all but a very tiny minority. 

“The proposals we have seen, assembled by a small, self-selected group of very wealthy clubs, appear to be a cynical and very worrying attempt to thwart the core principle of sporting merit which rightly underpins European football.  They represent a clear and present danger to the sport we all love.

“Now, more than ever, given what we have all been through over the past year, governments, together with the game’s governing bodies and leagues, need to work together to do what is right and protect the very essence of the game.  

“The SPFL stands ready to support all efforts to fight for the principles of solidarity, sporting competition and fairness which lie at the very heart of the game.”

[Tommy Brown]

6 minutes ago, Footballfirst said:

Each team will play 10 games against 10 different teams of variable ranking.  All 36 teams will be ranked (probably on club/country ranking/coefficient)

The Team ranked 1 may play teams ranked 3 (h), 7 (a) 10 (h) 14 (a) 18 (h) 21 (a) 25 (h) 28 (a) 32 (h) 36 (a)

Team 2  will have a similar program against ranked sides to provide a comparable programme of games.

Team 3 ditto .... etc

 

After 10 games you effectively have a league table of 36 teams.  The top 8 go through to the last 16 knockout stage.  Teams 9 to 24 play and additional playoff round with the winners proceeding to the last 16.  Knockout from there on to the final as before.

 

Cheers FF, thank god your a Jambo

[Jambo 4 Ever]

What impact, if any, could this have of Scottish football?

could it even be positive for us?

[Sertse]

Was speaking with a few people at work, what's the chances of getting rid of the EPL and having a British league?

[BigAlim]

Just now, Jambo 4 Ever said:

What impact, if any, could this have of Scottish football?

could it even be positive for us?

 

Would imagine the english leagues could become less valuable and more teams may come into our market for players

[The Real Maroonblood]

Does any of this affect Hearts?

[Paolo]

2 hours ago, Footballfirst said:

UEFA's president Ceferin is not happy

 

"Andrea Agnelli is the biggest disappointment of all, I’ve never seen a person that would lie so many times, so persistently as he did. It’s unbelievable.”

"We didn't know we had snakes so close to us, now we know."

And yes Ceferin is godfather to Agnelli's daughter..

Ceferin also insists UEFA prepared to hold Champions League without the 'dirty dozen' - "We will do it with them or without them."

“The players that will play in the Super League will be banned from playing in the World Cup and Euros. Ceferin. They will not be allowed play for their national teams”  (Won't apply to this year's Euros as no-one will have played in the ESL)

"I got a letter signed by I don't know who because there wasn't a name on it. Probably it was a 'Super Person'"

“If I start with Ed Woodward, he called me last Thu evening saying he’s very satisfied with and fully supports the reforms + the only thing he want to talk about was FFP, when obviously he had already signed something else.

"How can you see all your fans protesting and you don't care? You are full of money anyway, but you want more and more and more. I've had enough that football clubs are assets - they are part of our history."

"Maybe Aston Villa is a big club" - in reference to how it can go in cycles which teams are the elite

UEFA have a bit of a cheek.  They have played their part in this.  It has just now bit them on the arse. 

[davemclaren]

Just now, The Real Maroonblood said:

Does any of this affect Hearts?

Increases our chances of winning the Champions League I reckon. 😜

[The Real Maroonblood]

Just now, davemclaren said:

Increases our chances of winning the Champions League I reckon. 😜

[HartleyLegend3]

49 minutes ago, Footballfirst said:

Monday 19th April 2021

 

SPFL STATEMENT

 

REACTION TO EUROPEAN SUPER LEAGUE  SPFL PLAYOFF PROPOSALS

 

Neil Doncaster, chief executive of the SPFL, commented: “The SPFL stands alongside UEFA, the SFA, the European Leagues, the Highland League, the English Premier League, the Lowland League, and the overwhelming majority of the game’s stakeholders in vehemently opposing the proposed European Super League. cancellation of the SPFL Playoff.

 

“These proposals, or any like them, would have an enormously damaging impact on the very fabric of our sport at all levels. It is no surprise they have been so swiftly and overwhelmingly condemned by fans the world over. 

 

“We believe that any such ‘competition’ would dramatically undermine the global appeal of football and would be financially catastrophic for all but a very tiny minority. 

 

“The proposals we have seen, assembled by a small, self-selected group of very wealthy self interested clubs, appear to be a cynical and very worrying attempt to thwart the core principle of sporting merit which rightly underpins European Scottish football.  They represent a clear and present danger to the sport we all love.

 

“Now, more than ever, given what we have all been through over the past year, governments, together with the game’s governing bodies and leagues, need to work together to do what is right and protect the very essence of the game.

 

“The SPFL stands ready to support all efforts to fight for the principles of solidarity, sporting competition and fairness which lie at the very heart of the game.”

If this new super league was to include the old firm, I'll bet you this statement would never have been like this. 

It would have been full of praise and talked positively about it.. 

Dungcaster a fool.. 

[HartleyLegend3]

13 minutes ago, Sertse said:

Was speaking with a few people at work, what's the chances of getting rid of the EPL and having a British league?

New rangers fans would love that.. 

[TurboT]

25 minutes ago, Footballfirst said:

Each team will play 10 games against 10 different teams of variable ranking.  All 36 teams will be ranked (probably on club/country ranking/coefficient)

The Team ranked 1 may play teams ranked 3 (h), 7 (a) 10 (h) 14 (a) 18 (h) 21 (a) 25 (h) 28 (a) 32 (h) 36 (a)

Team 2  will have a similar program against ranked sides to provide a comparable programme of games.

Team 3 ditto .... etc

 

After 10 games you effectively have a league table of 36 teams.  The top 8 go through to the last 16 knockout stage.  Teams 9 to 24 play and additional playoff round with the winners proceeding to the last 16.  Knockout from there on to the final as before.

Am I right in thinking that's 178 games to get the 36 teams down to the last 16?

[allystrachan]

19 minutes ago, Tommy Brown said:

The SPFL stands ready to support all efforts to fight for the principles of solidarity, sporting competition and fairness which lie at the very heart of the game.”

That last paragraph of Doncaster’s statement is the biggest pile of shite to come out of his mouth since the last time he spoke! 

[Under the floodlight]

18 minutes ago, Tommy Brown said:

understand your sentiments, Practice what you preach.

 

SPFL STATEMENT

REACTION TO EUROPEAN SUPER LEAGUE PROPOSALS

Neil Doncaster, chief executive of the SPFL, commented: “The SPFL stands alongside UEFA, the European Leagues, the English Premier League and the overwhelming majority of the game’s stakeholders in vehemently opposing the proposed European Super League.

“These proposals, or any like them, would have an enormously damaging impact on the very fabric of our sport at all levels. It is no surprise they have been so swiftly and overwhelmingly condemned by fans the world over. 

“We believe that any such ‘competition’ would dramatically undermine the global appeal of football and would be financially catastrophic for all but a very tiny minority. 

“The proposals we have seen, assembled by a small, self-selected group of very wealthy clubs, appear to be a cynical and very worrying attempt to thwart the core principle of sporting merit which rightly underpins European football.  They represent a clear and present danger to the sport we all love.

“Now, more than ever, given what we have all been through over the past year, governments, together with the game’s governing bodies and leagues, need to work together to do what is right and protect the very essence of the game.  

“The SPFL stands ready to support all efforts to fight for the principles of solidarity, sporting competition and fairness which lie at the very heart of the game.”

I don't know what the City of Brechin will have to say about this.

[JackLadd]

I agreed with Gary Nev on re

5 minutes ago, HartleyLegend3 said:

New rangers fans would love that.. 

 

The one impact for them is it will make automatic cl groups next season a lot less lucrative if they win their second league.

[Tazio]

27 minutes ago, Sertse said:

Was speaking with a few people at work, what's the chances of getting rid of the EPL and having a British league?

Let’s hope that never happens. It would give most teams in Scotland, including us, a hell of a reality check. 

[Guest ToqueJambo]

1 hour ago, Footballfirst said:

Monday 19th April 2021

 

SPFL STATEMENT

 

REACTION TO EUROPEAN SUPER LEAGUE  SPFL PLAYOFF PROPOSALS

 

Neil Doncaster, chief executive of the SPFL, commented: “The SPFL stands alongside UEFA, the SFA, the European Leagues, the Highland League, the English Premier League, the Lowland League, and the overwhelming majority of the game’s stakeholders in vehemently opposing the proposed European Super League. cancellation of the SPFL Playoff.

 

“These proposals, or any like them, would have an enormously damaging impact on the very fabric of our sport at all levels. It is no surprise they have been so swiftly and overwhelmingly condemned by fans the world over. 

 

“We believe that any such ‘competition’ would dramatically undermine the global appeal of football and would be financially catastrophic for all but a very tiny minority. 

 

“The proposals we have seen, assembled by a small, self-selected group of very wealthy self interested clubs, appear to be a cynical and very worrying attempt to thwart the core principle of sporting merit which rightly underpins European Scottish football.  They represent a clear and present danger to the sport we all love.

 

“Now, more than ever, given what we have all been through over the past year, governments, together with the game’s governing bodies and leagues, need to work together to do what is right and protect the very essence of the game.

 

“The SPFL stands ready to support all efforts to fight for the principles of solidarity, sporting competition and fairness which lie at the very heart of the game.”

 

 

👏 Doncaster is a shameless hypocrite who works for the benefit of a small number (two) of very wealthy clubs. He's no different to the super league clowns.

[Byyy The Light]

3 minutes ago, Tazio said:

Let’s hope that never happens. It would give most teams in Scotland, including us, a hell of a reality check. 

I wouldn’t be against it. We’d find our level and in my opinion Scottish football couldn’t get any worse. It’s dying a slow painful death anyway

[Seymour M Hersh]

1 hour ago, Footballfirst said:

Monday 19th April 2021

 

SPFL STATEMENT

 

REACTION TO EUROPEAN SUPER LEAGUE  SPFL PLAYOFF PROPOSALS

 

Neil Doncaster, chief executive of the SPFL, commented: “The SPFL stands alongside UEFA, the SFA, the European Leagues, the Highland League, the English Premier League, the Lowland League, and the overwhelming majority of the game’s stakeholders in vehemently opposing the proposed European Super League. cancellation of the SPFL Playoff.

 

“These proposals, or any like them, would have an enormously damaging impact on the very fabric of our sport at all levels. It is no surprise they have been so swiftly and overwhelmingly condemned by fans the world over. 

 

“We believe that any such ‘competition’ would dramatically undermine the global appeal of football and would be financially catastrophic for all but a very tiny minority. 

 

“The proposals we have seen, assembled by a small, self-selected group of very wealthy self interested clubs, appear to be a cynical and very worrying attempt to thwart the core principle of sporting merit which rightly underpins European Scottish football.  They represent a clear and present danger to the sport we all love.

 

“Now, more than ever, given what we have all been through over the past year, governments, together with the game’s governing bodies and leagues, need to work together to do what is right and protect the very essence of the game.

 

“The SPFL stands ready to support all efforts to fight for the principles of solidarity, sporting competition and fairness which lie at the very heart of the game.”

 

Absolutely laughable that the CHUMP that is Doncaster thinks he needs to put a statement out.

[AlimOzturk]

2 minutes ago, Byyy The Light said:

I wouldn’t be against it. We’d find our level and in my opinion Scottish football couldn’t get any worse. It’s dying a slow painful death anyway

Nor would I TBH so long as the International teams remain independent of each other. None of this UK national team nonesense however. 
 

6 teams would have to replace the 6 teams departing. Would have Rangers/Celtic into the premier league, Hearts/Hibs/Aberdeen in the championship. At the very least based on potential fan base. 

[Tazio]

8 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said:

Nor would I TBH so long as the International teams remain independent of each other. None of this UK national team nonesense however. 
 

6 teams would have to replace the 6 teams departing. Would have Rangers/Celtic into the premier league, Hearts/Hibs/Aberdeen in the championship. At the very least based on potential fan base. 

Not having a dig at you but I’m not sure people up here realise how big a task that would be. It’s like when OF fans think they could win the EPL because they’ve lots of fans. The example I used on another thread was Bristol City. They average about 5k a game more than us or Hibs, nice 27k stadium and they have been in the top flight once, over 40 years ago. Certainly it would be nice to get some of the massive cash pot in the championship but isn’t a given we’d be able to compete. A UK league would be a poisoned chalice in my opinion. 

Edited April 19, 2021 by Tazio

[SectionDJambo]

6 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

 

Absolutely laughable that the CHUMP that is Doncaster thinks he needs to put a statement out.

Yes

We can all imagine the huge relief around UEFA HQ that the imbecile secretary of a league in Scotland, which caters almost exclusively for it's 2 biggest clubs, has offered his support. Now they can really go after those 12 clubs in the knowledge that he is right behind them.

[kingantti1874]

Just let them **** off and let them play each other twice a season, they are too big anyway. Just leave the real football to real clubs

[Armageddon]

I hope FIFA and UEFA to totally nuclear on all those involved, that would be hilarious, the government powers and actually unbelievable to make it not be close to happening.

[kila]

2 hours ago, ToqueJambo said:

This is good for Scottish football potentially. We'll be the only "proper" league in the UK - as close to old school football as you can get. It should be marketed as such to other audiences. It's also the start of a process that could lead to the OF leaving, which will make our league even better.

 

I think that is a good point. Hopefully Scotland avoids VAR but keep goal line tech and expands it for all top flight stadia.

 

In the years ahead, I think Scottish football will remain old school football and retain real community fans. It's always felt that way though - it's never been polished and elite. It's raw and battles, not tippy-tappy exhibition.

 

[Byyy The Light]

8 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said:

Nor would I TBH so long as the International teams remain independent of each other. None of this UK national team nonesense however. 
 

6 teams would have to replace the 6 teams departing. Would have Rangers/Celtic into the premier league, Hearts/Hibs/Aberdeen in the championship. At the very least based on potential fan base. 

 

I'd do it gradually rather than chuck us in at the deep end.  Drop the league winners in to Championship and the runner up in to the league 1 promotion play offs. Then repeat over a number of years or something like that.  

 

Just now, Tazio said:

Not having a dig at you but I’m not sure people up here realise how big a task that would be. It’s like when OF fans think they could win the EPL because they e lots of fans. The example I used on another thread was Bristol City. They average about 5k a game more than us or Hibs, nice 27k stadium and they have been in the top flight once, over 40 years ago. Certainly it would be nice to get some of the massive cash pot in the championship but isn’t a given we’d be able to compete. A UK league would be a poisoned chalice in my opinion. 

 

I don't for a second think it would be easy to get in to the premier league but I watched Rotherham against Birmingham at the weekend and it was pretty bad.  Not just in terms of entertainment but the general standard.  Establishing ourselves in the championship, not having to play teams 4 times a season, the opportunity to attract better players etc are all worth consideration.  Granted I very rarely attend away matches so the travelling doesn't come in to it for me.

 

I really can't see a scenario where any club other than Rangers or Celtic will win the league here. I was 39 last week and haven't seen anyone other than those 2 shitehawk teams win the league.

 

 

[Guest ToqueJambo]

1 minute ago, kila said:

 

I think that is a good point. Hopefully Scotland avoids VAR but keep goal line tech and expands it for all top flight stadia.

 

In the years ahead, I think Scottish football will remain old school football and retain real community fans. It's always felt that way though - it's never been polished and elite. It's raw and battles, not tippy-tappy exhibition.

 

 

Definitely - it's a weekly stramash fest and without the OF bigotry dragging everyone else down that community aspect and the humour and weirdness of our league would come through a lot more.

[AlimOzturk]

3 minutes ago, Tazio said:

Not having a dig at you but I’m not sure people up here realise how big a task that would be. It’s like when OF fans think they could win the EPL because they’ve lots of fans. The example I used on another thread was Bristol City. They average about 5k a game more than us or Hibs, nice 27k stadium and they have been in the top flight once, over 40 years ago. Certainly it would be nice to get some of the massive cash pot in the championship but isn’t a given we’d be able to compete. A UK league would be a poisoned chalice in my opinion. 

We would find our level as someone else suggested. The current set up we are in is basically hope to win a trophy every now and again and watch the old firm dominate. At least in a new set up winning league 1 and competing in the championship with the dream of getting to the EPL/BPL is actually potentially attainable. 

[Francis Albert]

56 minutes ago, Sertse said:

Was speaking with a few people at work, what's the chances of getting rid of the EPL and having a British league?

It would be ironic if after being an independent football nation since football began we were in effect swallowed by England in a British league at a time when many think Scotland is on the brink of independence.

I have zero interest in Hearts competing in the second or third tier of English football.

[Francis Albert]

1 minute ago, AlimOzturk said:

We would find our level as someone else suggested. The current set up we are in is basically hope to win a trophy every now and again and watch the old firm dominate. At least in a new set up winning league 1 and competing in the championship with the dream of getting to the EPL/BPL is actually potentially attainable. 

Competing in the second division at best  with the dream being a year or two of relegation struggle in the EPL? No thanks.

[AlimOzturk]

3 minutes ago, Francis Albert said:

Competing in the second division at best  with the dream being a year or two of relegation struggle in the EPL? No thanks.

Do you currently find it entertaining that Celtic winning treble trebles and 9 years of dominance followed by the rangers 2.0 coming back to potentially dominate alongside? I don’t. Least in a UK league set up we could potentially attract better standard of players and dream of bigger things than playing second fiddle to the bigot sisters. The thought of not playing them that often also attracts 

Edited April 19, 2021 by AlimOzturk

[ShortmanRossco]

17 minutes ago, Tazio said:

Not having a dig at you but I’m not sure people up here realise how big a task that would be. It’s like when OF fans think they could win the EPL because they’ve lots of fans. The example I used on another thread was Bristol City. They average about 5k a game more than us or Hibs, nice 27k stadium and they have been in the top flight once, over 40 years ago. Certainly it would be nice to get some of the massive cash pot in the championship but isn’t a given we’d be able to compete. A UK league would be a poisoned chalice in my opinion. 

Where do you think realistically the Old Firm would finish Tazio personally speaking? Conversation/Argument I routinely seem to have with Old Firm fans. I think they would get absolutely tonked in the Premier League and have them down as Playoff contenders in the Championship.... Maybe second place at best due to a poor Championship season. 

[Unknown user]

Who ****ing cares, being on the SPFL ya bas