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Not keen on mcinnes at all but would take him over McCann or Neilson. Still convinced it will be Alex Neil if he's not got another job by the time Robbie is gone. 

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Nookie Bear

McCann is a decent, cheaper, alternative but I do wonder if he has the experience and authority to really make a difference in the current culture at the club. 

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9 hours ago, S Form said:

Must be something in the name - both were honking.


 

The Titanic turned quicker than Don Murray.  Neil Murray had absolutely no self belief. 

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9 hours ago, jr ewing said:

Those were the days. 

 Neil Murray was a funny one - brought to us direct from the Highland League. He sometimes looked the part, but spent much of the time tripping over his own feet. I remember him scoring a cracking header in a friendly against Spurs. 

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Lord BJ
22 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said:

McCann is a decent, cheaper, alternative but I do wonder if he has the experience and authority to really make a difference in the current culture at the club. 


Don’t want McCann. His time at Dundee was pretty gash and think people are overvaluing a very short spell at ICT, which is very similar to his start at Dundee. 
 

I believe a couple of season ago the plan, at some point,  was for him to take over from Levein. Some discussions defo took place.  Much like now, back then I couldn’t understand it, outside a desperation to get rid of the current manager. 

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Nookie Bear
8 minutes ago, Lord BJ said:


Don’t want McCann. His time at Dundee was pretty gash and think people are overvaluing a very short spell at ICT, which is very similar to his start at Dundee. 
 

I believe a couple of season ago the plan, at some point,  was for him to take over from Levein. Some discussions defo took place.  Much like now, back then I couldn’t understand it, outside a desperation to get rid of the current manager. 


Funnily enough I checked his Dundee stats after I posted 😬

 

Unfortunately we are at the “anyone but Robbie” stage. 

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13 hours ago, Sir Gio said:

That's actually a rather dense and disrespectful response.

 

Its not a game of whose watched more but it stands to reason if you watch them most weeks as I have been subjected to, you will understand more. Hardly an effort to denegrate another opinion. 

 

I also work play golf live with their fans. I don't know anyone happy, just like our own manager variety of levels but its unanimous their football is shite and he has been past the peak for some time. 

 

What games have you watched Aberdeen in this season? Highlights packages are hardly giving you a fair opportunity to judge in truth. 

 

Bit fed up now, I'll close by suggesting if we don't like Neilson we are appointing more of the same.  If you want him fine rather take someone on an upward curve myself. Best in sport to you

 

'Its not a game of who's watched more..... What games have you watched this season?' 😂

 

 

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Smith's right boot

McCann was murder at Dundee.  Utter shite Tbh. 

Neil is the only one that creates a bit of excitement

Mcinnes has the best CV, but the football won't change under him. 

Robbo isn't good enough. 

 

If Robbie goes I'd like a foreign coach, if not I'm not convinced any of the names mentioned here will perform better than him in the top flight with us. 

 

 

 

 

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27 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said:


Funnily enough I checked his Dundee stats after I posted 😬

 

Unfortunately we are at the “anyone but Robbie” stage. 

 

 

Maybe, but thankfully Board won't be. 

Certain fans have  already done the anything but Robbie mk 1, cathro, CL thing. Worked out well. 

The board will need to be more strategic and think beyond every one oot, especially as atc leas this time we on for promotion. 

 

 

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Nookie Bear
4 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said:

McCann was murder at Dundee.  Utter shite Tbh. 

Neil is the only one that creates a bit of excitement

Mcinnes has the best CV, but the football won't change under him. 

Robbo isn't good enough. 

 

If Robbie goes I'd like a foreign coach, if not I'm not convinced any of the names mentioned here will perform better than him in the top flight with us. 

 

 

 

 


The football will change under McInnes because the team will be settled and organised. Huge difference to now. 

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7 hours ago, sadj said:

 

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Some folk want Boabys head on that. 

 

 

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Juho_Makela_Goal_Machine
1 hour ago, Nookie Bear said:

McCann is a decent, cheaper, alternative but I do wonder if he has the experience and authority to really make a difference in the current culture at the club. 

 

Exactly where I'm at with McCann. From what I remember, that was his problem at Dundee, couldn't control the big personalities in the dressing room at the time. He might have more luck with the shitebags that occupy our dressing room.

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Just now, Juho_Makela_Goal_Machine said:

 

Exactly where I'm at with McCann. From what I remember, that was his problem at Dundee, couldn't control the big personalities in the dressing room at the time. He might have more luck with the shitebags that occupy our dressing room.


I agree! I just can’t see McCann getting us going in an upward projectory. 

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1 minute ago, Nookie Bear said:


The football will change under McInnes because the team will be settled and organised. Huge difference to now. 

 

My Aberdeen St holder mate disagrees with you, the football won't change. 

 

Nobody will know for sure, but I'm pretty sure we must be organised just now, we are well clear and if anything last time on promotion we were organised. 

 

I'm hoping that any change goes beyond organisation Tbh. I think we'll be organised next season if it was Neilson or McInnes. 

 

Be a waste of £500k give or take to get organised imo. 

I also think the football purists on here will have a Mcinnes oot thread before the seasons end. 

 

Who knows tho, maybe him being refreshed, a big team with a decent support might refresh him and his ambition. 

 

I'd back him, but not sure he'll delivery what many want tbh. 

 

 

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Sir Gio
10 minutes ago, Juho_Makela_Goal_Machine said:

 

'Its not a game of who's watched more..... What games have you watched this season?' 😂

 

 

Pretty much all of our games and the Sheep, but you brought that up not me, which again demonstrates a certain density. 

 

From this I trust you have not actually watched Aberdeen at all, for which I wouldn't blame you. 

 

Toodaloo now 

 

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Nookie Bear
2 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

My Aberdeen St holder mate disagrees with you, the football won't change. 

 

Nobody will know for sure, but I'm pretty sure we must be organised just now, we are well clear and if anything last time on promotion we were organised. 

 

I'm hoping that any change goes beyond organisation Tbh. I think we'll be organised next season if it was Neilson or McInnes. 

 

Be a waste of £500k give or take to get organised imo. 

I also think the football purists on here will have a Mcinnes oot thread before the seasons end. 

 

Who knows tho, maybe him being refreshed, a big team with a decent support might refresh him and his ambition. 

 

I'd back him, but not sure he'll delivery what many want tbh. 

 

 


If you think we are organised right now then I’ll leave you to it. 

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Byyy The Light
1 hour ago, Nookie Bear said:

McCann is a decent, cheaper, alternative but I do wonder if he has the experience and authority to really make a difference in the current culture at the club. 

 

McCann was hated by the Dundee players.  I don't think we need a divisive character at the moment

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9 hours ago, Pasquale for King said:

Yeah I’m sure there’s other stuff that could be added. 
First time we’ve had an award winning restaurant though 🤔🙈

In isolation it looks horrendous but is excuseable to some extent in that it was against a background of having to start up a club virtually from scratch.  One could also argue that if we had not spent money on a new stand and pitch etc we might have had a better team but then we would be complaining about pouring money down the drain constantly repairing a creaking old stand just to meet H & S legal requirements.

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27 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said:

McCann was murder at Dundee.  Utter shite Tbh. 

Neil is the only one that creates a bit of excitement

Mcinnes has the best CV, but the football won't change under him. 

Robbo isn't good enough. 

 

If Robbie goes I'd like a foreign coach, if not I'm not convinced any of the names mentioned here will perform better than him in the top flight with us. 

 

 

 

 

 

We’ve tried the young and innovative in Cathro, abject failure. We tried the safe and experienced hands of Levein, he expensively failed. We tried the exciting foreign manager in Stendel and we were trash and it led to us being in Championship. We then tried the last manager to have a modicum of at success at the club, and he has brought about the biggest footballing embarrassment the club has ever seen.

 

Like you Neil would be my preferred choice but I don’t see it. Alternatively, Billy Davies as the ***** knew what he was talking about a few years ago when he gave his critique of the club. Thats not a serious suggestion folks.

 

I’m hoping the departure of most of that playing squad, significantly improves whoever in charge chances, by seeing the back of sub standard players, who have a stench of failure about them.

 

 

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Not sure McCann or McInnes would have the authority to get this mob motivated again. We need a strong manager who will come in a kick butt.

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Since when did we turn into a fan base that demanded a manager played a certain way or type of football ? In all my years of watching hearts I can’t ever recall this demand. Whenever we have been looking for a manager we have looked for Some sort of previous success or overachiever. I’ll take someone who wins us football matches over another Stendel type who plays the right way, apparently. 

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Prince Buaben

We dont need another ex player coming here and ruining there reputation by doing a shite job ffs.

 

McCann hasn't done much to think he would get this shower going or be able to rehaul the sqaud. He spent money on Jack Hamilton.at Dundee.

 

Surprised that Paul Hartley hasnt been mentioned. 

 

We need a strong individual would has no connection to anyone in the dressing room and who the players show respect for.

 

Anyway all mute points as Rob is not going anywhere

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6 minutes ago, Dazo said:

Since when did we turn into a fan base that demanded a manager played a certain way or type of football ? In all my years of watching hearts I can’t ever recall this demand. Whenever we have been looking for a manager we have looked for Some sort of previous success or overachiever. I’ll take someone who wins us football matches over another Stendel type who plays the right way, apparently. 


We just need a good manager. Not a shit one like the current incumbent. 

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56 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

 

Maybe, but thankfully Board won't be. 

Certain fans have  already done the anything but Robbie mk 1, cathro, CL thing. Worked out well. 

The board will need to be more strategic and think beyond every one oot, especially as atc leas this time we on for promotion. 

 

 

Is this board capable of that ?

That would require a level of competence I doubt they possess.

Maybe they'll get lucky ( throw enough darts one should eventually stick ).

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I couldn't give a toss about style. Keeping more goals out and scoring one more than the opposition does me nicely.

 

Tony Pulis football is fine with me.

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1 hour ago, Prince Buaben said:

We dont need another ex player coming here and ruining there reputation by doing a shite job ffs.

 

McCann hasn't done much to think he would get this shower going or be able to rehaul the sqaud. He spent money on Jack Hamilton.at Dundee.

 

Surprised that Paul Hartley hasnt been mentioned. 

 

We need a strong individual would has no connection to anyone in the dressing room and who the players show respect for.

 

Anyway all mute points as Rob is not going anywhere

He is almost certainly going. The clubs posture and the total lack of a supportive statement tells you that

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1 hour ago, Lord BJ said:

 

Like you Neil would be my preferred choice but I don’t see it. Alternatively, Billy Davies as the ***** knew what he was talking about a few years ago when he gave his critique of the club. Thats not a serious suggestion folks.

Painful stuff. I dislike Davies.

 

He pretty much called it bang on tho.

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1 hour ago, Dazo said:

Since when did we turn into a fan base that demanded a manager played a certain way or type of football ? In all my years of watching hearts I can’t ever recall this demand. Whenever we have been looking for a manager we have looked for Some sort of previous success or overachiever. I’ll take someone who wins us football matches over another Stendel type who plays the right way, apparently. 

I’d like someone who could do both.

Winning ugly is still winning but, currently we’re not winning and actually getting worse

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Nookie Bear
8 minutes ago, Rick Sanchez said:

I couldn't give a toss about style. Keeping more goals out and scoring one more than the opposition does me nicely.

 

Tony Pulis football is fine with me.

 

Yep, another myth is that Hearts fans are expecting Barca-style football.

 

It isn't true. what we expect is football that is capable of breaking down amateur defensive formations and that usually means an element of urgency, pace and positivity.

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Just now, Jamhammer said:

I’d like someone who could do both.

Winning ugly is still winning but, currently we’re not winning and actually getting worse

 

If the football is turgid it is fine when you are winning because we just want to win. Problem comes if you stop winning and you have nothing to fall back on.

 

If you are like, say, Leeds, and you have a few bad results you can at least point to the way you play as being effective overall and exciting.

 

Likewise, if you are not winning but the team is packed with young talent then you can say you are developing an exciting young team.

 

What can Robbie fall back ion right now? Ah yes, everyone else is worse than us. That's it.

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Just now, Nookie Bear said:

 

If the football is turgid it is fine when you are winning because we just want to win. Problem comes if you stop winning and you have nothing to fall back on.

 

If you are like, say, Leeds, and you have a few bad results you can at least point to the way you play as being effective overall and exciting.

 

Likewise, if you are not winning but the team is packed with young talent then you can say you are developing an exciting young team.

 

What can Robbie fall back ion right now? Ah yes, everyone else is worse than us. That's it.


There’s a good phrase in football - performances catch up with you.

 

Which is to say that playing poorly once in a while and winning is fine. “Good teams find a way to win” etc etc. But being a fundamentally shite team while winning some games makes you nothing more than a fundamentally shite team. And eventually you’ll run out of luck.

 

Neilson’s Hearts are fundamentally shite. He got away with it for a while because of the dismal league we’re in. But now the truth is showing itself properly and rather than rectifying the form (because he doesn’t have the talent) he’s churning out every excuse he can think of.

 

In short, this was always going to happen because of the ‘performances don’t matter’ mindset which the club is riddled with. It’s the reason why so many of us were opposed to Supergran reappointing Snoreson. It was so ****ing obvious as well.

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3 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said:

 

If the football is turgid it is fine when you are winning because we just want to win. Problem comes if you stop winning and you have nothing to fall back on.

 

If you are like, say, Leeds, and you have a few bad results you can at least point to the way you play as being effective overall and exciting.

 

Likewise, if you are not winning but the team is packed with young talent then you can say you are developing an exciting young team.

 

What can Robbie fall back ion right now? Ah yes, everyone else is worse than us. That's it.

It’s funny but it’s not funny.

I wouldn’t miss any of these players

perhaps Gordon

There’s not one of them that excites you when they get the ball. You don’t watch games wondering how we’ll play because you know how we’ll play.

Sad state of affairs and saying it’s okay that we’re guff because everyone else is is just pathetic 

 

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See if a benefactor is still out there with a few hundred grand just burning a hole in their pocket? Give it to the club to get Alex Neil over the line. 

 

Otherwise, I think there is a good argument to either Duncan Ferguson or Stephen Robinson. Ferguson is risky but I think would have the backing of the fans, Robinson would be a safe pair of hands to get the squad fixed. 

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9 minutes ago, OTT said:

See if a benefactor is still out there with a few hundred grand just burning a hole in their pocket? Give it to the club to get Alex Neil over the line. 

 

Otherwise, I think there is a good argument to either Duncan Ferguson or Stephen Robinson. Ferguson is risky but I think would have the backing of the fans, Robinson would be a safe pair of hands to get the squad fixed. 

All this talk of Duncan Ferguson is unrealistic in my opinion! He'll be on a fortune down at Everton so no way he's going to uproot his settled family for Hearts job 

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JimmyCant
21 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said:

 

Yep, another myth is that Hearts fans are expecting Barca-style football.

 

It isn't true. what we expect is football that is capable of breaking down amateur defensive formations and that usually means an element of urgency, pace and positivity.

It’s a pretty simple principle. If you have the better players AND just as important, you have greater will to win, you’ll win most times. Our problem is we have the better players, in this league but we’re combining it with rock bottom will to win, drive, motivation. All things that can be levellers, we are lacking in.

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12 minutes ago, Jamhammer said:

It’s funny but it’s not funny.

I wouldn’t miss any of these players

perhaps Gordon

There’s not one of them that excites you when they get the ball. You don’t watch games wondering how we’ll play because you know how we’ll play.

Sad state of affairs and saying it’s okay that we’re guff because everyone else is is just pathetic 

 

I think we have quite a few decent players . We also have a poor , underperforming team . Unlike the experts on here I don't know why this is but , unfortunately , I think we do need to change the coaching team . People who can change the mindset of the squad .

Neil would be a great bit of business , don't know how realistic this is

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30 minutes ago, Jamhammer said:

I’d like someone who could do both.

Winning ugly is still winning but, currently we’re not winning and actually getting worse


Wont argue with that regarding current efforts. Someone who does both would  be great but doubt it’s easy to find. I’d bite your hand off for someone who wins matches and gets back to where we should be though regardless of how we play. 

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2 hours ago, Nookie Bear said:


If you think we are organised right now then I’ll leave you to it. 

 

 

I don't see how a team top of the Championship can't be organised ffs. 

 

The need to dramatise everything on here is ridiculous. 

 

You fail to adress many of the other points either. 

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Lord BJ said:

 

 

We’ve tried the young and innovative in Cathro, abject failure. We tried the safe and experienced hands of Levein, he expensively failed. We tried the exciting foreign manager in Stendel and we were trash and it led to us being in Championship. We then tried the last manager to have a modicum of at success at the club, and he has brought about the biggest footballing embarrassment the club has ever seen.

 

Like you Neil would be my preferred choice but I don’t see it. Alternatively, Billy Davies as the ***** knew what he was talking about a few years ago when he gave his critique of the club. Thats not a serious suggestion folks.

 

I’m hoping the departure of most of that playing squad, significantly improves whoever in charge chances, by seeing the back of sub standard players, who have a stench of failure about them.

 

 

 

Agree with all of that. 

 

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2 hours ago, Byyy The Light said:

 

McCann was hated by the Dundee players.  I don't think we need a divisive character at the moment

That’s exactly what we need. With possibly three to four exceptions the current squad is made up of lazy self centred players who are more interested in their wages. We need someone with a good footballing pedigree to shake these clowns up.
Those who think McCann should be counted out because of his record at Dundee should reflect that using that criteria would have seen Alex Ferguson sacked in his first season at Man U.

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Smith's right boot
6 minutes ago, OldGorgie said:

That’s exactly what we need. With possibly three to four exceptions the current squad is made up of lazy self centred players who are more interested in their wages. We need someone with a good footballing pedigree to shake these clowns up.
Those who think McCann should be counted out because of his record at Dundee should reflect that using that criteria would have seen Alex Ferguson sacked in his first season at Man U.

 

 

:berra:

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42 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said:

All this talk of Duncan Ferguson is unrealistic in my opinion! He'll be on a fortune down at Everton so no way he's going to uproot his settled family for Hearts job 

 

The post on here made it sound like he was interested. I don't think it is a money orientated move, it would be about career progression. 

 

I think all managers have a bit of an ego about them and I reckon he liked his taste of managing Everton. If he wants to get the experience to be in a position to take on the Everton job then he'll need to build up his CV. 

 

Plenty lower league English jobs kicking about though, but they're quick to boot out managers. He'd get time here. 

 

Financially, still a healthy drop in wages, but you never know!

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Jamhammer
36 minutes ago, Dazo said:


Wont argue with that regarding current efforts. Someone who does both would  be great but doubt it’s easy to find. I’d bite your hand off for someone who wins matches and gets back to where we should be though regardless of how we play. 

It’d certainly be a start

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2 minutes ago, OTT said:

 

The post on here made it sound like he was interested. I don't think it is a money orientated move, it would be about career progression. 

 

I think all managers have a bit of an ego about them and I reckon he liked his taste of managing Everton. If he wants to get the experience to be in a position to take on the Everton job then he'll need to build up his CV. 

 

Plenty lower league English jobs kicking about though, but they're quick to boot out managers. He'd get time here

 

Financially, still a healthy drop in wages, but you never know!

aye about as much time as you could say Hibs 1 Hearts 0 oot the door

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Find it very hard to believe we have somebody else lined up and Robbie knows he’s going after the league is won

Makes no sense to me 

If it was that cut and dried then surely board would want him gone ASAP and Robbie wouldn’t want to hang about

I still think he will be here next season 

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53 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said:

All this talk of Duncan Ferguson is unrealistic in my opinion! He'll be on a fortune down at Everton so no way he's going to uproot his settled family for Hearts job 

It seems big Fergie is unlikely to come back to Scotland for any job. Who can blame him, big dunny as I like to call him is revered by the blue half of Merseyside. 

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7 minutes ago, The White Cockade said:

Find it very hard to believe we have somebody else lined up and Robbie knows he’s going after the league is won

Makes no sense to me 

If it was that cut and dried then surely board would want him gone ASAP and Robbie wouldn’t want to hang about

I still think he will be here next season 

It appears it would save face for both sides if it’s by mutual consent, he goes with our best wishes and both sides reputation is intact. 
His pals can then say he was harshly treated so some other mug takes him on. 

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1 minute ago, Pasquale for King said:

It appears it would save face for both sides if it’s by mutual consent, he goes with our best wishes and both sides reputation is intact. 
His pals can then say he was harshly treated so some other mug takes him on. 

He was hounded out Mk2, sub titled revenge of the pant wetters.

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11 minutes ago, jamboozy said:

He was hounded out Mk2, sub titled revenge of the pant wetters.

They were celebrating when he left Dundee United too. 

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28 minutes ago, jamboozy said:

He was hounded out Mk2, sub titled revenge of the pant wetters.

Especially when they don’t like the new manager because he will

hopefully rip up and fix everything Levein and his protege have done. 

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