Formula 1

[Seaside Dave]

World champion with another win. 5 second penalty. Damage to the car and still rises to a glorious victory. Checo last lap shambles again loses positions. But now guaranteed 1-2 for red bull in the driver's championship. Max equals Sebastian vettel win tally. What a world ****ing champion max is ❤️❤️

[Taffin]

Actually really enjoyed that this morning. Thought Leclerc drove a terrific race. I really hope Ferrari can challenge next year properly (but RB still win 🤞)

[H2]

Regretfully the FIA again today show their Red Bull Max love but not immediately making a decision when he, Verstappen, clearly ran Leclerq off the track. Instead delayed it to avoid having Verstappen give the place back. 

[Seaside Dave]

1 hour ago, H2 said:

Regretfully the FIA again today show their Red Bull Max love but not immediately making a decision when he, Verstappen, clearly ran Leclerq off the track. Instead delayed it to avoid having Verstappen give the place back. 

I'd have preferred max to give it back as he would have overtook him next drs. Instead leclerc had a 28 second lead at one point and a slower pitstop and safety car then choosing not to pit him for fresher tyres ultimately gave max an advantage. 

[Taffin]

55 minutes ago, Seaside Dave said:

I'd have preferred max to give it back as he would have overtook him next drs. Instead leclerc had a 28 second lead at one point and a slower pitstop and safety car then choosing not to pit him for fresher tyres ultimately gave max an advantage. 

 

Yeh, if you can't stay within 5 seconds of someone you were getting re-passed anyway in all honesty.

 

Leclerc did amazingly well to stay in the mix though despite his different strategy.

[Seaside Dave]

He done superb and that on the last lap was brilliant. I mean it's the only place he could overtake and checo left the door wide open for him. 

[H2]

On 19/11/2023 at 18:04, Seaside Dave said:

I'd have preferred max to give it back as he would have overtook him next drs. Instead leclerc had a 28 second lead at one point and a slower pitstop and safety car then choosing not to pit him for fresher tyres ultimately gave max an advantage. 

I guess ultimately LeClerc's  or Ferrari's decision not to pit him cost him, I'd have thought it was a safe bet to pit him as if Vers hadn't pitted Leclerc would have had a massive tyre advantage. The thing that galls me is the fact that at the point the decision was made it was giving Vers an advantage, and was just plain and simple wrong. It is incredible how many times vers has run people wide, they should do what he does and just not go wide, but I guess he's racing for nothing at the moment, everyone else needs points.

[Seaside Dave]

1 hour ago, H2 said:

I guess ultimately LeClerc's  or Ferrari's decision not to pit him cost him, I'd have thought it was a safe bet to pit him as if Vers hadn't pitted Leclerc would have had a massive tyre advantage. The thing that galls me is the fact that at the point the decision was made it was giving Vers an advantage, and was just plain and simple wrong. It is incredible how many times vers has run people wide, they should do what he does and just not go wide, but I guess he's racing for nothing at the moment, everyone else needs points.

Was just an ichident mate 

[H2]

On 21/11/2023 at 12:59, Seaside Dave said:

Was just an ichident mate 

Yeah, just a deliberate incident mate.

[Taffin]

On 21/11/2023 at 12:59, Seaside Dave said:

Was just an ichident mate 

 

😂

 

It's a classic!

[Rudi Skacel]

Thank god that season is over. Probably one of, if not the most boring season in the history of F1. 
 

Cant wait for the new one already though. 

[Seaside Dave]

3 hours ago, Rudi Skacel said:

Thank god that season is over. Probably one of, if not the most boring season in the history of F1. 
 

Cant wait for the new one already though. 

Outstanding season. Plenty of drama plenty of tears. Plenty of max wins. Plenty of bottles of spray everywhere. 

 

Max Verstappen 3 in a row champion of the world 🇱🇺

 

Roll on February 

[Day@theraces]

Hamilton world champion in a superior car = great driver.

Verstappen world champion in a superior car = great car.

[Seaside Dave]

7 hours ago, Day@theraces said:

Hamilton world champion in a superior car = great driver.

Verstappen world champion in a superior car = great car.

Yip that's all you hear nowadays for such a dominate max 

[Bigsmak]

On 26/11/2023 at 17:34, Rudi Skacel said:

Thank god that season is over. Probably one of, if not the most boring season in the history of F1. 
 

Cant wait for the new one already though. 

 

I get that it was the Max show this year - but other than him there was so much going on - 

Ferrari - Up and down - no strategy at all - couldn't win a race if they were the only cars - 

 

Alonso - how does he do what he does in those cars - put him in the red bull and he would be right up there - 

 

McLaren - nowhere in the first 9 races - then Really strong in the remaining ones - Lando was the second highest scorer from race 10 onwards. 

 

 

[SectionDJambo]

On 27/11/2023 at 01:05, Day@theraces said:

Hamilton world champion in a superior car = great driver.

Verstappen world champion in a superior car = great car.

This, and the ridiculous, in my view, descriptions of Lewis Hamilton as the greatest ever F1 driver. Most successful, yes. Greatest, no. Those guys who raced in death trap cars, at outrageous speeds before the cars became as safe as they are now, are the best champions of the sport. 

This is not to demean Hamilton's achievements, or Verstappen's, but the likes of Clark, Stewart, Hill, Senna, Lauda etc., put their lives on the line everytime and didn't hold back.

[Mikey1874]

On 27/11/2023 at 01:05, Day@theraces said:

Hamilton world champion in a superior car = great driver.

Verstappen world champion in a superior car = great car.

 

Is that what they say in Holland, Austria etc?

[Day@theraces]

5 hours ago, Mikey1874 said:

 

Is that what they say in Holland, Austria etc?

 

Don't know I don't read the news there. Britain does have the biggest press in Europe? so is the loudest. It's always going to come down to the car in F1, but the great drivers get the most out of their car. Hamilton is a great driver, as is Alonso and Max. But I don't believe this current Verstappen would lose out to Rosberg in the same car.

[KG1874]

On 27/11/2023 at 01:05, Day@theraces said:

Hamilton world champion in a superior car = great driver.

Verstappen world champion in a superior car = great car.

Only recently started following F1 so excuse my ignorance but are both teammates cars the exact same?
 

I dunno who’s better out them. I like verstappen cause he’s abit of a madman behind the wheel but watching Lewis drive from last to first place can’t mind when that was but that’s when I started watching regular couldn’t believe what I seen tbh 😂

[hmfc_liam06]

20 hours ago, Mikey1874 said:

 

Is that what they say in Holland, Austria etc?

Exactly. British press in backing British driver shock 😅

 

Like when folk complain the English media discuss the England team at major tournaments. As if the other nations aren’t doing the same.

 

If you want pro-Max coverage, watch the Dutch broadcast.

 

I don’t even think Sky is that bad in terms of pro-Lewis / anti-Max. There’s a few folk but on balance it isn’t too bad.

Edited November 29 by hmfc_liam06

[Sooperstar]

11 hours ago, KG1874 said:

Only recently started following F1 so excuse my ignorance but are both teammates cars the exact same?
 

I dunno who’s better out them. I like verstappen cause he’s abit of a madman behind the wheel but watching Lewis drive from last to first place can’t mind when that was but that’s when I started watching regular couldn’t believe what I seen tbh 😂

 

Essentially yes. They might be set up differently, but it's the same technology, parts, power etc. 

[KG1874]

1 hour ago, Sooperstar said:

 

Essentially yes. They might be set up differently, but it's the same technology, parts, power etc. 

right I’m just trying to wrap my head around the car being the reason someone wins more than the driver I’d have expected Perez to finish 2nd more often than no if that was true. It’s probs a lot more complex than I’m making it out to be 

[Mikey1874]

A very good car is still very hard to drive and control. So there's no doubt Hamilton and Verstappen are great drivers. There's enough evidence of that.

 

The question is more about the drivers who never get the best cars. 

[Seaside Dave]

3 hours ago, KG1874 said:

right I’m just trying to wrap my head around the car being the reason someone wins more than the driver I’d have expected Perez to finish 2nd more often than no if that was true. It’s probs a lot more complex than I’m making it out to be 

There are alot of better drivers that are in good  cars. That's why they beat Perez. There's no one better on the grid than max and his red bull for 2 season's now