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bloody hell, go to bed and wake up to find i've missed a full days action

 

well played town

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The town were ecstatic with their work so far.

 

The cop continued their good work by finding someone bad.

 

The doc was keeping a close eye on someone who was perfectly safe.

 

The goons knew something had to be done. Shapes was the target of their fury.

By the time they had finished with her, she was just a broken and bloody mess.

 

Shapes (mason) is dead.

 

Now day

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1. Stuart McNeill

3. Sheldon Cooper

4. AlimOzturk

5. Simo

6. Smack

8. Morgaro Gomis

11. Milky

12. Sean

14. AndyNic

15. Riddley Walker

17. Vlad Magic

19. Dunks

20. Groot

21. Rudi Skacel

23. Boof 

 

15 players left

8 for a lynch

 

Deadlind 9pm tonight 

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Well not entirely surprising after last nights events. 
 

She mentioned something about Morgaro being “king goon”  I also had my suspicions earlier on as well. Wonder if the cop found him as the goon. Any hint from the masons would be ideal. 

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Dr. Sheldon Cooper

Losing a mason has been balanced out with the cop finding another goon, so it's not all bad.

 

With the amount of players left we shouldn't need the good roled players to start revealing themselves but obviously another goon is known so we need to start heading down that path somehow.

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7 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said:

Well not entirely surprising after last nights events. 
 

She mentioned something about Morgaro being “king goon”  I also had my suspicions earlier on as well. Wonder if the cop found him as the goon. Any hint from the masons would be ideal. 

 

Yeah I noticed that too.

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Can only presume that Shapes was the previous night's target otherwise, WTF, Doc?

 

Might need to take a dander back and see what Shapes has been saying...

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5 minutes ago, Boof said:

Can only presume that Shapes was the previous night's target otherwise, WTF, Doc?

 

Might need to take a dander back and see what Shapes has been saying...


Assuming the doc saved themselves first night and shapes the second otherwise it makes zero sense why they wouldn’t save her this time round. 

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Morgaro Gomis
17 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said:

Well not entirely surprising after last nights events. 
 

She mentioned something about Morgaro being “king goon”  I also had my suspicions earlier on as well. Wonder if the cop found him as the goon. Any hint from the masons would be ideal. 

 

10 minutes ago, Riddley Walker said:

 

Yeah I noticed that too.

 

You really think I’d be that obvious/naive to kill her after she said that :rofl:

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Morgaro Gomis

I’m away to play golf but I’ll need to try and re-read the thread before the Hearts game kicks off to check for voting patterns etc. 

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It was inevitable that shapes would have been a goner at somepoint after revealling herself. Assuming the doc saved her on night 2. 
 

It also got the cop an extra investigation aswell. 
 

Also well done cop for finding a goon! 
 

1 minute ago, Morgaro Gomis said:

I’m away to play golf but I’ll need to try and re-read the thread before the Hearts game kicks off to check for voting patterns etc. 

 

where are you playing? Im off at Gullane at lunchtime. 

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Just now, Rudi Skacel said:

It was inevitable that shapes would have been a goner at somepoint after revealling herself. Assuming the doc saved her on night 2. 
 

It also got the cop an extra investigation aswell. 
 

Also well done cop for finding a goon! 
 

 

where are you playing? Im off at Gullane at lunchtime. 

 

Just Turnhouse mate. I’d much rather be at Gullane though, enjoy your round! 

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4 minutes ago, Morgaro Gomis said:

 

 

You really think I’d be that obvious/naive to kill her after she said that :rofl:


Use could have thought she was the cop which would have been a big scalp for use. You are also not the only one with a vote either. 
 

Going to see if any hint comes from the Masons before voting. 

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6 minutes ago, Morgaro Gomis said:

 

 

You really think I’d be that obvious/naive to kill her after she said that :rofl:

 

The comment was there either way man, and it leaves you to say exactly what you just said about it being obvious. **** knows, didn't have you pegged as a goon before but it does seem a bit weird she'd say that if not.

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11 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said:


Assuming the doc saved themselves first night and shapes the second otherwise it makes zero sense why they wouldn’t save her this time round. 

Absolutely, there is no way the doc would not have saved shapes if they could last night

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Bloody hell I missed loads :lol:

 

Pretty good day/night overall I'd say. A mason down is sad but assassin lynched and a goon found is a big win. 

 

Now the interesting dynamic as the goons sweat wondering which one has been rumbled and the masons try to guide us without revealing themselves 🤔

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15 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said:


Use could have thought she was the cop which would have been a big scalp for use. You are also not the only one with a vote either. 
 

Going to see if any hint comes from the Masons before voting. 


Nah. Shapes as the cop wouldnt be that stupid as to out herself. Thats what the masons are for to lead the town and protect the cop. 

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Stuart McNeill

I like how shapes said who was investigated and then Dawn tried switching it 😂😂😂😂😂 classic! 

 

 

I'm tempted to vote MG due to the King goon comment but I thought someone good was investigated day 1?

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1 minute ago, Stuart McNeill said:

I like how shapes said who was investigated and then Dawn tried switching it 😂😂😂😂😂 classic! 

 

 

 

Woooooooo

2 bottles of Old Speckled Hen and 1 bottle of Malbec was giving me some Dutch courage😆

Woooooooo

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On 04/11/2020 at 12:48, Shapes said:

Hello!

 

Would use bs if I could but I can't.

 

Living the 9-5 dream on placement at the moment so I'll be quiet during the day then I'll not shut up from the moment I get home.

 

 

 

Shapes talks too much - can only quote 50 posts at a time :lol: 

 

On 04/11/2020 at 13:24, Shapes said:

Day 1 goon list

 

Sheldon

Dandyman

Milky 

Groot

Yvonne

 

 

Unknown

Townie

Unknown

Unknown

Goon

 

On 04/11/2020 at 17:29, Shapes said:

Picked sheldon because I like to think he's a goon a lot and the others were all picked at random to see if I could unsettle anybody :jjyay:

 

On 04/11/2020 at 17:29, yvonnejambo said:

Day 1 goon list

 

 

Simo

Smack

 Dawnrazor

Sean

AndyNic


 

I am aiming for 5 out of 5 😁

 

I will vote later tonight 

 

Oops - forgot I'd included this one.
Any fellow goons on there does anyone reckon?

 

 

On 04/11/2020 at 18:23, jambosean75 said:

goon list 

 

boof 

yvonne

shapes

dandy

smack

 

Unknown (but townie)

Goon

Mason

Townie

Unknown

 

On 04/11/2020 at 19:32, Shapes said:

We really do have a lot of S players. I sometimes even confuse myself with it. Maybe I should name change. Remember when people used to name change all the time?

 

On 04/11/2020 at 20:05, Shapes said:

I might just use my first name from the next game on. Do we have any C's??

 

On 04/11/2020 at 20:32, Shapes said:

One of your answers is right but spelled wrong 😂

 

Cleopatricia?

 

On 04/11/2020 at 21:10, Shapes said:

 I will vote tomorrow, probably near deadline because who doesn't love a fun day one 

 

On 04/11/2020 at 22:28, yvonnejambo said:

It’s hard getting used to this new layout..
Good to see the embracing of goon lists, they can be very handy. Not so pleased that I have ended up on a few of them though 🥺

Anyway I will Vote Simo

i have no particular reason but it’s day 1 and he’s just on my goondar 
 

 

Thoughts?

 

On 04/11/2020 at 22:57, Dr. Sheldon Cooper said:

 

Have a scroll through the last 5 game threads and I reckon her day 1 hit rate would be pretty good.

 

Doesn't mean she isn't a goon but always worth keeping an eye on her lists.

 

On 05/11/2020 at 10:13, Shapes said:

Good morning

 

I suppose I hardly needed to quote that...

 

On 05/11/2020 at 12:48, Shapes said:

I mean surely morgaro can't be a goon three times in a row :rofl:

 

I'm n ot sure where this 'Morgaro is a goon' stuff is coming from?

I mean it's possible he could be 3 games in a row - imagine the reaction to the PM :lol: - but at this point Shapes was as clueless as the rest of us. Unless Morgaro is a fellow mason and this was a throw goons off the scent move...? Highly unlikely, IMO.

 

On 05/11/2020 at 17:13, Shapes said:

Oh yay I get to play my favourite game of seeing who jumps on the quiet poster bandwagon once one person votes them. Fun.

 

On 05/11/2020 at 18:02, Shapes said:

@Bunny Munro would you like to make an appearance? Unless you're a goon then don't appear. K thanks.

 

On 05/11/2020 at 18:03, Shapes said:

Patter isn't as honking as sheldon's cop performance tbh.

 

Those investigations had me like :what:

 

On 05/11/2020 at 19:32, Shapes said:

It's like beirut in Shawlands.

 

Not voted yet. Should probably think about it

 

On 05/11/2020 at 19:44, Shapes said:

vote dandyman

 

Because he doesn't have a vote.

 

But I'll maybe change to bunny depending on what the situation is looking like nearer deadline 

 

On 05/11/2020 at 20:06, Shapes said:

There's a massive difference between jumping on votes for bunny when there's still plenty time for him to make an appearance (you), or voting him when it's apparent he's going to be mod killed and to stop more people being lynched on day one (me).

 

 

 

On 05/11/2020 at 20:27, Shapes said:

Convenient that you put that prerequisite out at the beginning isn't it?

 

Think this was in response to Alim.

 

On 05/11/2020 at 20:35, Shapes said:

You're barking up the wrong tree here pal. Don't let the fact I got you lynched before cloud your judgement here. New game etc etc 

 

Can't remember who this was in response to!

 

On 05/11/2020 at 20:47, Shapes said:

Which of your goon pals told you to write that?

 

Or this - can you still do the click top right corner of quote box thing to take you back to that post?

 

On 05/11/2020 at 20:55, Shapes said:

Always think it's a bit of a damp squib when we have a mod kill on day one 

 

On 05/11/2020 at 21:10, Shapes said:

Thought as much.

 

On 05/11/2020 at 21:32, Shapes said:

So the goons are going for vocal players who they want to silence. Interesting.

 

On 05/11/2020 at 21:56, Shapes said:

But he wasn't online so he wouldn't know :rofl:

 

On 05/11/2020 at 23:45, Shapes said:

Didn't see the point as there were enough votes on him for him to be lynched 

 

On 06/11/2020 at 09:03, Shapes said:

My guess is that there will be 1/2 more vocal goons and 3 lurkers. It's frustrating when that's their tactic but it seems to be when they're most successful. Lurk and let the town turn on each other. Not sure who to go for just now. Will decide later 

 

22 hours ago, Shapes said:

Too early to make that call but the next day or two will be interesting as that's normally when the goons start blending in the background.

 

Rudi has been very quiet, as has sean. Although sean did say he had work 

 

22 hours ago, Shapes said:

Stuart too...is he even playing?!

 

18 hours ago, Shapes said:

If there's to be another mod kill situation , are we having an extra lynch too? Because we could be having goons right up there in the votes but because we are choosing to lynch the non poster it's meaning they are getting a free pass during the day then a free hit at night 

 

18 hours ago, Shapes said:

And I'm going to 

 

vote dawnrazor

 

was very quick to take advantage of vlads gung-honess (don't even think that's a word) which I think was just naivety on vlads part and nothing sinister. I could be wrong but that's the hunch I'm getting. Him and Yvonne are both on my goon list. But then again, I had dandy on it so it's probably crap :rofl:

 

Not sure of the others 

 

17 hours ago, Shapes said:

Nae bother 

 

17 hours ago, Shapes said:

So you're telling everyone you're suspicious of myself and vlad and your only reason is because we voted for you? Gonna need a bit more substance than that.

 

Dammit - can't remember this one either

 

17 hours ago, Shapes said:

Ok well that's not a valid reason for suspicion then :rofl:

 

13 hours ago, Shapes said:

Because of scotland playing next week I think. Clarke requested this for the semi final against Israel  too

 

13 hours ago, Shapes said:

I'm calling dawn vs Yvonne as goon vs goon fakery

 

13 hours ago, Shapes said:

So now you think Yvonne isn't a goon?! Make your mind up.

 

13 hours ago, Shapes said:

No, that you're both goons and the wee spat you're having and voting for her and saying she is a goon is cover up

 

13 hours ago, Shapes said:

Yes :jjyay:

 

13 hours ago, Shapes said:

bugger it

 

unvote dawn

 

vote Yvonne 

 

13 hours ago, Shapes said:

:verysmug:

 

12 hours ago, Shapes said:

Assassin hasn't used any bullets and has been investigated. Do we lynch him now and stop him using bullets which he could be waiting to use on good roled players?

 

12 hours ago, Shapes said:

And well played cop and doc!

 

11 hours ago, Shapes said:

Pros of lynching assassin:

 

Has 3 bullets and can't use them on good roled (of which we still have a full house)

 

Stops us having to have this debate further down the line

 

Cons:

 

He could just as easily take out goons as good roles

 

Other points that don't necessarily relate to killing the assassin:

 

We'll be left with 15 players after lynching the assassin and then the goons kill. If goons hit cop then we are going in a bit blind. But then we'd still have full house of masons.

 

Thoughts?

 

 

11 hours ago, Shapes said:

vote dawnrazor

 

👀

 

11 hours ago, Shapes said:

It's a bit of an unnecessary risk though? We can take him out now and that puts it to bed.

 

11 hours ago, Shapes said:

Nae bother king goon 

 

Think this was to Morgaro - is there any way Shapes would know anything or just have deep-rooted suspicions? Dunno :sadrobbo:

 

11 hours ago, Shapes said:

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahah

 

You're no getting to use your bullets pal.

 

11 hours ago, Shapes said:

It's Dawn.

 

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Sorry about that scroll-a-thon folks.

 

I got a bit Magnus Magnusson - I've started, so I'll finish :lol: 

 

 

Looking somewhat dodgy to me now are, in no particular order

Alim

Groot

Simo

 

Toss-up between Stuart and Riddley

 

I guess that's something of a goon list, but bear in mind I actually know sod all for sure.

 

 

As long as we don't lynch the cop today, we'll get an investigation tonight.

 

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i don't think shapes could have known if morgaro was a goon as a goon hadn't been investigated yet if i'm reading the night posts from ian right

 

so that makes the push for him interesting

 

i wonder if some goons are leading it

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3 minutes ago, milky_26 said:

Has boof just quoted the whole bloody thread

 

Mostly just Shapes' contributions - and I had to stop at 50 :lol: 

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3 minutes ago, jambosean75 said:

i don't think shapes could have known if morgaro was a goon as a goon hadn't been investigated yet if i'm reading the night posts from ian right

 

so that makes the push for him interesting

 

i wonder if some goons are leading it

 

That's pretty much why I have Alim on my Hmmmmm - list.

 

Not strong enough feelings to be worthy of a vote yet, but certainly bubbling under.

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5 minutes ago, jambosean75 said:

i don't think shapes could have known if morgaro was a goon as a goon hadn't been investigated yet if i'm reading the night posts from ian right

 

so that makes the push for him interesting

 

i wonder if some goons are leading it

 

:spoton:

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Yeah last night was the first investigation anyone bad had been ,so Shapes could have had suspicions but there's no way that she could confirm Morgaro as king goon at that point.

 

He may or may not be goon but I think people might be reading too much into what I thought was a throwaway comment for lolz tbh :lol:

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1 hour ago, AlimOzturk said:

Well not entirely surprising after last nights events. 
 

She mentioned something about Morgaro being “king goon”  I also had my suspicions earlier on as well. Wonder if the cop found him as the goon. Any hint from the masons would be ideal. 

 

Any outing of further masons at this stage would be a mistake.

 

Vote AlimOzturk

 

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7 minutes ago, Boof said:

Sorry about that scroll-a-thon folks.

 

I got a bit Magnus Magnusson - I've started, so I'll finish :lol: 

 

 

Looking somewhat dodgy to me now are, in no particular order

Alim

Groot

Simo

 

Toss-up between Stuart and Riddley

 

I guess that's something of a goon list, but bear in mind I actually know sod all for sure.

 

 

As long as we don't lynch the cop today, we'll get an investigation tonight.

 

 

Chief suspects for me are Groot and Alim. Not sure about the other 2. Would be inclined to think Simo is good. Also think Vlad and Stuart should be ok. That's just purely based on my interpretation from reading through.

 

Might as well

 

Vote Groot

 

If that's a terrible error I'm sure he'll politely let me know.

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Stuart McNeill

Tbh, I am just a townie, I'll happily change my vote to whoever.

 

I got called out as a goon for putting people into a tie and then put Yvonne in the lead..

 

Im clearly not a goon

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Apart from not voting for Yvonne because i wasn’t around at deadline on night 2 I don’t know how the **** I am seen as dodgy. How would suggesting the masons quietly, subtly give a hint to who the cop found make me seem dodgey? Why the **** would I want another goon gone if I was in fact a goon? 

 

Pathetic theory. Dunks your barking up the wrong tree, trust me. I AM NOT A GOON. 

 

But bash on. I am just a townie so willing to take the hit if it means saving other roled good guys. 

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18 minutes ago, Simo said:

I feel a bit cheeky asking but I'm on my phone so it's a bit of a mare to do... Anyone have a picture of the votes for last couple of days? 

 

I didn't get around to doing a voting record for the Yvonne or Dawnrazor lynch-days.

 

Day 1 was

 

Alim vote Stuart
Rudi vote Yvonne
Dunks vote Groot
Dawnrazor vote Rudi
Vlad vote Dawnrazor
Stuart vote Sean
AndyNic vote Vlad
Morgaro vote Sheldon
Smack vote Rudi
Sheldon vote Morgaro
Boof vote AndyNic
Boof unvote AndyNic
Yvonne vote Simo
Dandy vote Dunks
Boof vote Groot
Boof unvote Groot
Boof vote Bunny
milky vote Sheldon
Riddley vote Sean
AndyNic unvote Vlad
AndyNic vote Yvonne
Alim unvote Stuart
Alim vote Bunny
Sean vote Riddley
Groot vote Shapes
Simo vote Bunny
Shapes vote Dandyman
Vlad unvote Dawnrazor
Vlad vote Yvonne
Riddley unvote Sean
Riddley vote Bunny
Yvonne unvote Simo
Yvonne vote Bunny
Dawnrazor unvote Rudi
Dawnrazor vote Bunny

 

 

Interesting there was an early vote for Yvonne from Rudi.

Then I posed the 'Will Bunny be modkilled?' question and voted him.

 

Then we had

AndyNic vote Yvonne

Alim vote Bunny

Simo vote Bunny

Vlad vote Yvonne

Riddley, Dawn, Yvonne vote Bunny

 

The Alim, Simo and Riddley votes could be seen as Yvonne-saving (I'm ignoring Yvonne and Dawnrazor's) but the goon team wouldn't have needed ALL of them. With Yvonne in that team they'd surely have been a bit more coordinated.

 

Mine could too, I suppose, but she was only on 1 when I voted Bunny. I suppose folk could argue that my reasoning was persuasive enough?

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15 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said:

Apart from not voting for Yvonne because i wasn’t around at deadline on night 2 I don’t know how the **** I am seen as dodgy. 

There's a few things that could make you look dodgy. Suck on these.

 

On 04/11/2020 at 08:12, AlimOzturk said:

Why is boof 23 and not 22?


Vote stuart

 

Usual day one vote. 

Townie this time. Hopefully make it past day one this time. 

 

On 04/11/2020 at 22:10, AlimOzturk said:

Goon list. 
 

Boof

AndyNic

Vlad


because am on theirs

 

On 05/11/2020 at 10:30, AlimOzturk said:

Not a lot to go on so far. Noticed dandyman has been unusually quiet and a few yet to post.

 

Going to stick with Stuart for now but will be going for the quietest players to begin with. Often find the lurkers turn out to be the baddies. 

 

On 05/11/2020 at 10:53, AlimOzturk said:


really? Still quiet for his standard :laugh2:

Dandyman ^^

On 05/11/2020 at 17:02, AlimOzturk said:

Unvote stuart

 

vote bunny 

 

Quietest poster so far.  

 

On 05/11/2020 at 19:49, AlimOzturk said:


Changing your tune about voting for quieter posters 🧐 

 

Possible theory; bunny is a goon but because he is risking being mod-killed/voted out you are making it look like you aren’t in the same team as him by saying you’ll vote for him or maybe changing your vote 🤔

Shapes ^^

On 05/11/2020 at 20:26, AlimOzturk said:


Nah, Nah. I said right from the start that I would be voting for the quieter players to start with. So don’t try and spin this on me 😂

 

 

On 05/11/2020 at 20:27, Shapes said:

Convenient that you put that prerequisite out at the beginning isn't it?

 

On 05/11/2020 at 23:09, AlimOzturk said:

I have went from trusting Morgaro to not feeling right about something.  
 

Vote Morgaro for now. 

 

22 hours ago, AlimOzturk said:

Unvote morgaro

 

vote Sean

 

Sticking with voting the quietest poster until anything more obvious happens. 

 

16 hours ago, AlimOzturk said:

Unvote Sean

 

vote groot. 

three way tie. Let’s see what happens 

 

16 hours ago, milky_26 said:

It is only a two way tie Groot is now on two with your vote

Oops!

12 hours ago, AlimOzturk said:

AndyNic is a goon

 

No noobie plays as well as he has without some guidance  

 

VOTE Andy

?↑

12 hours ago, AlimOzturk said:

 

You are the assassin IMO

 

12 hours ago, AlimOzturk said:

 

Just jesting but in all seriousness the assassin is clearly an experienced player going on the fact they have been saving their bullets. I can rule out myself, you, Jambosean (who shoots his load on the first night) riddley, AndyNic and dawn.

 

That leaves Simo, Stuart, Boof, Sheldon, Shapes, Dunks, Rudi, smack, milky, groot, vlad who i think are seasoned players (missed anyone?)

 

My money is on Stuart. I would be going for for the assassin as it gets rid of another person out to win the game

 

12 hours ago, AlimOzturk said:

Shapes, you have previous for being wrong. (I.e getting me lynched in a previous game) If I vote with you on dawn and your wrong i expect and hope you’ll be lynched following. 

 

12 hours ago, AlimOzturk said:

Unvote andy

 

vote Dawn

 

11 hours ago, AlimOzturk said:

Well done shapes. 

 

2 hours ago, AlimOzturk said:

Well not entirely surprising after last nights events. 
 

She mentioned something about Morgaro being “king goon”  I also had my suspicions earlier on as well. Wonder if the cop found him as the goon. Any hint from the masons would be ideal. 

 

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5 minutes ago, Smack said:

There's a few things that could make you look dodgy. Suck on these.

 

 

 

 

Dandyman ^^

 

Shapes ^^

 

 

 

 

 

Oops!

?↑

 

 

 

 

 

 


Thats just theories at the beginning of the game. 
 

Have had this done to me before. Posting, trying to be involved and actually make theories even if they turn out to be wrong. Easier to say **** all and have nothing to come back to bite you on the arse. 
 

 

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3 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said:


Thats just theories at the beginning of the game. 
 

Have had this done to me before. Posting, trying to be involved and actually make theories even if they turn out to be wrong. Easier to say **** all and have nothing to come back to bite you on the arse. 
 

 

Possibly. Taken as a whole it could look dodgy. You could, like you say, just have got things completely wrong. Nobody reads the mega quotes anyway 😁 

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Based on the Bunny and Yvonne lynch voting I think at least one of Riddley or Alim are goons but I'm not sure which one (possibly both)

 

I'll probably be voting for one of them but undecided which way at the moment. I missed the whole Dawn lynch so I'll need to have a proper look back through that.

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1 hour ago, AlimOzturk said:

Apart from not voting for Yvonne because i wasn’t around at deadline on night 2 I don’t know how the **** I am seen as dodgy. How would suggesting the masons quietly, subtly give a hint to who the cop found make me seem dodgey? Why the **** would I want another goon gone if I was in fact a goon? 

 

Pathetic theory. Dunks your barking up the wrong tree, trust me. I AM NOT A GOON. 

 

But bash on. I am just a townie so willing to take the hit if it means saving other roled good guys. 

 

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Slightly worried I'll look bad if Alim proves to be good, but if it walks like a goon, talks like a goon and protests like a goon, it's probably a goon. I'm keen to get involved early on a goon slaying to cement my town credentials, so it's worth a punt.

 

Unvote Groot

Vote Alim

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8 minutes ago, Smack said:

Slightly worried I'll look bad if Alim proves to be good, but if it walks like a goon, talks like a goon and protests like a goon, it's probably a goon. I'm keen to get involved early on a goon slaying to cement my town credentials, so it's worth a punt.

 

Unvote Groot

Vote Alim


Enjoy looking bad. 
 

Absolutely stupidity and another reason why in future games I’ll keep my posting to a minimum. 

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