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Pasquale for King
49 minutes ago, Johnny Sandiego said:

I think its more a budget thing though. We can't afford to bring in a team full of new players this season under the circumstances. The wages for our squad as it stands are unsustaniable in a reduced game championship.

 

We will need to trim the wage bill and get one more season out of some of the players who are clearly not good enough for top 6 premier league. Not ideal i agree but unavoidable.

Well put. 

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1 minute ago, ToqueJambo said:

 

Uh, to win and score lots of goals maybe? 

 

I'm confused by your approach to this season. You sound worried and nervous.

 

We WILL be considerably fitter than every other team. Even we just start the season with our current squad, NO club has players of the calibre (proven at a high level) of the players I just listed there.

 

A front line from Washington, Boyce and Naismith or all three will cause havoc with Walker as a roving No. 10 which we know he can do. Uche off the bench will be devastating. Did you not watch the championship in 14/15? We didn't have the same quality up front and scored for fun. The goalies and defenders down there are largely atrocious. Players like Walker who can ping them in from distance will score 10 easy. And this time around the league has no Hibs and Rangers and every club has been massively weakened. Why so worried?

 A mixture of Washington, Boyce, Naismith and walker were getting their arses handed to them regularly by the likes of Hamilton and St Mirren. There isn't much evidence to say they will romp the league and bang in the goals. There is evidence to suggest they are injury prone, uninterested and cant score goals.

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19 minutes ago, soonbe110 said:

Who would pay money for Uche? Other than a development fee when he was 18 no club has ever paid a fee for him. 

 

I can imagine that he has a club lined up, so we release him so he is free to move. If there was a fee that club would not go for him. So better for us to end contract saving money on wages than wait for someone to maybe pay some money for him.

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1 minute ago, jambopilms said:

 A mixture of Washington, Boyce, Naismith and walker were getting their arses handed to them regularly by the likes of Hamilton and St Mirren. There isn't much evidence to say they will romp the league and bang in the goals. There is evidence to suggest they are injury prone, uninterested and cant score goals.

 

There is plenty of evidence.

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32 minutes ago, Batistuta87 said:

Releasing Uche would be a weird one. Surely there's a fee to be had for him....

 

I expect we've been trying to move him since the January window given Stendel's opinion of him. We'd have a good idea by now if there was any chance of getting a fee and it appears not.

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12 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said:

 

Uh, to win and score lots of goals maybe? 

 

I'm confused by your approach to this season. You sound worried and nervous.

 

We WILL be considerably fitter than every other team. Even we just start the season with our current squad, NO club has players of the calibre (proven at a high level) of the players I just listed there.

 

A front line from Washington, Boyce and Naismith or all three will cause havoc with Walker as a roving No. 10 which we know he can do. Uche off the bench will be devastating. Did you not watch the championship in 14/15? We didn't have the same quality up front and scored for fun. The goalies and defenders down there are largely atrocious. Players like Walker who can ping them in from distance will score 10 easy. And this time around the league has no Hibs and Rangers and every club has been massively weakened. Why so worried?

 

Put it this way, we easily beat Caley with a forward line of Uche and Keena. When we had Naismith available we hammered them 5-0.


How can you see me as worried?  We will piss it.  The more of Leveins shite off the books the better. 
 

Uche :lol: 

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12 minutes ago, Sir Gio said:

Nobody knows what Clare's position is. A misfit. 

An expensive error symptomatic of an era of promise and it will be ok next week. 

It wasn't and Clare epitomised that despite the bizarre turn of events sparked by a brainless challenge to be red carded.

I'm afraid I was one of the suckered people who backed him. 

**** the lot of them,  good riddance. 

4 wins in 30 against utter dross half the season 


Clare being on the field of play for 2 of those wins...folk sad to see him leave need a reality check

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3 hours ago, gashauskis9 said:

Going to be a big reality check over the coming weeks.  Expect any player that has a transfer value will be fair game, and will be replaced with lower quality equivalents.  We’ve got a hefty fine and legal costs coming, along with a huge hole in revenue that’ll need plugged.  
 

 

 

Agree and disagree. 

Court fees and fines will be covered. 

 

We signed Robbie and Gordon. 

 

Guys like Clare, Hickey, Washington, Damour and some others simply won't want to play in the championship, we will shift them. 

Win-win suits them and us. 

 

 

 

 

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Kenneth Dubeke

Uche and Wighton are desperately poor players. Neither should be at Hearts in a million years 

 

Can see Olly Lee getting a move despite Neilson saying he's in his plans 

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I think robbie will have had a few days now just to chat with players and see who is wanting to stay or not. Then its a case of if you want out then we will see what bids are available or we will release you if you agree to terminate contract. I expect a fair few to leave but we will be able to replace with players robbie wants. 

 

Get as much money for players out as possible.

 

Robbie said 3/4 players in, reckon it will be 5/6 by time we start the season

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1 hour ago, Pasquale for King said:

So how do we get rid of them? Strange you would ask me though as I’m not exactly someone who puts up with crap players. 

 

I never asked you anything. I made a comment about you making a case for White and Garrucio. (Which is strange for someone who says they dont put up with crap players......)

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Pasquale for King
8 minutes ago, gowestjambo said:

 

I never asked you anything. I made a comment about you making a case for White and Garrucio. (Which is strange for someone who says they dont put up with crap players......)

So what else are we going to do with them genius if we can’t get rid of them? You said they need cleared out, for the third time how do you expect Neilson to do this?

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1 hour ago, jambopilms said:

 A mixture of Washington, Boyce, Naismith and walker were getting their arses handed to them regularly by the likes of Hamilton and St Mirren. There isn't much evidence to say they will romp the league and bang in the goals. There is evidence to suggest they are injury prone, uninterested and cant score goals.

Were they? Which games were these considering all of them were injured for significant parts of the season. 

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2 hours ago, Captain Canada said:

 

I don't think that's realistic given he was a 4th division player in England before joining us and has scored just 5 in 40 games for us. 


+ important goals in the Scottish cup....

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1 hour ago, Last Laff said:

Kane Hemmings in trial from next week apparently. 

Is he not still with Dundee?

 

I'd happily take him over Uche if so.

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3 minutes ago, heartsfc_fan said:

Is he not still with Dundee?

 

I'd happily take him over Uche if so.

Not after today. 

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Just now, davemclaren said:

Not after today. 

 

Cheers 👍

Just seen the news. Way down the list on BBC sport so missed it.

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11 hours ago, bazman said:

He will play for Bayern II in the German third tier id imagine that way he is playing their system and can be monitored 

 

That makes sense. 

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gowestjambo
6 hours ago, Pasquale for King said:

So what else are we going to do with them genius if we can’t get rid of them? You said they need cleared out, for the third time how do you expect Neilson to do this?

 

Get off your high horse. Everyone knows our squad is not good enough. They need to moved on where possible. Nowhere did I say they need to be emptied tomorrow. Any opportunity to rid ourselves of the least talented bunch of footballers I have ever witnessed, should be taken.

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7 hours ago, Last Laff said:

Kane Hemmings in trial from next week apparently. 

Looked st Wiki

 

Kane Ruudi Hemmings is an English footballer, who is currently a free agent.

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18 minutes ago, Tommy Brown said:

Looked st Wiki

 

Kane Ruudi Hemmings is an English footballer, who is currently a free agent.

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Also interesting from his Wiki is he was a youth player at Rangers (did not know that) and he made his first league appearance for them in the lower division coming on as a substitute for Lee McCulloch - expected soon to be assistant.

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Leveins Battalion

ffs going by some of the doom merchants on here should we not be starting a tick tock thread for us rather than Hibs 🙈

 

Neilson will slowly snd surely cleanse this club of the mercenaries who have took much and gave little.

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Hemmings is a funny one. Scores goals most places he’s been, about 1 goal in 2.5/3 games over his career, with times with great spells at some places and then rubbish at others. Barnsley and Oxford stick out as the outliers in his goal-scoring form. At Scottish Championship level and similar (slightly higher too) he’s a goal scorer though. At 29 having bounced around everywhere from Rangers to Cowdenbeath, he would hopefully see HMFC as his last chance to play at a good level. I’d be keen to give him a shot. There should be goals between Boyce and Hemmings if we get the supply right.

 

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12 minutes ago, Special Officer Doofy said:

Hemmings is a funny one. Scores goals most places he’s been, about 1 goal in 2.5/3 games over his career, with times with great spells at some places and then rubbish at others. Barnsley and Oxford stick out as the outliers in his goal-scoring form. At Scottish Championship level and similar (slightly higher too) he’s a goal scorer though. At 29 having bounced around everywhere from Rangers to Cowdenbeath, he would hopefully see HMFC as his last chance to play at a good level. I’d be keen to give him a shot. There should be goals between Boyce and Hemmings if we get the supply right.

 

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If what they say that Ikpeazu is to leave then we’ll definitely need cover (don’t really see Henderson as cutting it as a striker) for Boyce, Washington and Naismith, the latter not being an out and out striker anymore. And especially if Washington leaves. I’d take Hemmings in that scenario definitely.

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6 minutes ago, BackOfTheNet said:


If what they say that Ikpeazu is to leave then we’ll definitely need cover (don’t really see Henderson as cutting it as a striker) for Boyce, Washington and Naismith, the latter not being an out and out striker anymore. And especially if Washington leaves. I’d take Hemmings in that scenario definitely.


Yeah, me too. Basically a straight swap for Uche. Scores goals, and that’s what we need. Isma and Lafferty proved it’s more than just sticking two good players together, you need the blend, but Hemmings and Boyce score goals. Get the supply right and we would have two strikers who know how to hit the net. Feeling quite good about the possibility of Hemmings actually.

 

Would like to know what the **** went wrong at Barnsley and Oxford though... 🤷‍♂️
 

 

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Leveins Battalion

 

Unfortunately because of a combination of where we found ourselfs and the actions of the Scottish Football 

mafia we are were we are.

 

I suspect we will see most of this squad leaving and a short term squad will be made up of reliable guys of 

Frear/Hemmings calibre etc that Neilson knows,7 out of 10's every week and like others have said,problaby thankfull to play for such a huge club at the tail end of their careers.

 

I look forward to the adventure.

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5 minutes ago, Special Officer Doofy said:


Yeah, me too. Basically a straight swap for Uche. Scores goals, and that’s what we need. Isma and Lafferty proved it’s more than just sticking two good players together, you need the blend, but Hemmings and Boyce score goals. Get the supply right and we would have two strikers who know how to hit the net. Feeling quite good about the possibility of Hemmings actually.

 

Would like to know what the **** went wrong at Barnsley and Oxford though... 🤷‍♂️
 

 


Be interesting to see how many of the appearances were from the bench and how many starts. As a striker’s stats can get skewed when that happens as there goals to games ratio gets out of whack. For example their stats may look like they’ve only scored 1 in 10 but in reality they came on for the last 10 minutes of each game so really it’s 1 in just over 1 game when taking into account playing time. No idea in Hemmings case of course. Certainly a player worth a punt on a one year with a one year extension option type contract, like Dikamona had.

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1 minute ago, BackOfTheNet said:


Be interesting to see how many of the appearances were from the bench and how many starts. As a striker’s stats can get skewed when that happens as there goals to games ratio gets out of whack. For example their stats may look like they’ve only scored 1 in 10 but in reality they came on for the last 10 minutes of each game so really it’s 1 in just over 1 game when taking into account playing time. No idea in Hemmings case of course. Certainly a player worth a punt on a one year with a one year extension option type contract, like Dikamona had.


This is true. At Barnsley when he went on loan to Mansfield he was straight back to putting them in again. Might have been as you suggest. Maybe one of our Stendel groupies can tell us more? 😄

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11 minutes ago, KyleLafferty said:

Washington in talks with Charlton.

Not unexpected

 

Had hoped he would stay though. Movement at times looked good felt he wouldve pushed on in the championship 

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Famous 1874

Hemmings out for Washington would be alright, especially for the Championship.

 

Hope we get a fee for the wash and move on as he has just not got going since his move last summer 

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Vlad the impaler

I’d hoped we’d be emptying some of the crap players before the ones I’d rather have kept. We still need some quality to win this league,Washington was different from the rest of the strikers🙄

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Famous 1874
8 hours ago, Last Laff said:

Kane Hemmings in trial from next week apparently. 

Is there a media outlet source for that? Or just what you have heard 

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5 minutes ago, Vlad the impaler said:

I’d hoped we’d be emptying some of the crap players before the ones I’d rather have kept. We still need some quality to win this league,Washington was different from the rest of the strikers🙄

 

I'd imagine we could do with some cash and Washington is one of the few players we have with a bit of value. 

 

Frustrating as I think he could have been decent for us but he probably sees himself above Scottish Championship level. 

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9 hours ago, neilmcd22 said:


Clare being on the field of play for 2 of those wins...folk sad to see him leave need a reality check

Always thought he was very lazy, for a young chap.

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Our squad has been way too big for years. As we have loads of time before any footie we may as well sell/let go as many as possible then see what we are left with. Sorry to see the better ones go but that’s reality. Have time to build. Spine of team is strong

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13 hours ago, Famous 1874 said:

Take it with a pinch of salt but seen a few people on Twitter that the fee is around 150k. 
 

Poor business yet again from the club in the transfer window. Budge accepts / declines the offers, so another howler from her if true. 

We got more for Mulraney and he wasn’t even half the player Clare is. £150k if true is disappointing 

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9 hours ago, jamboinglasgow said:

 

I can imagine that he has a club lined up, so we release him so he is free to move. If there was a fee that club would not go for him. So better for us to end contract saving money on wages than wait for someone to maybe pay some money for him.

Correct

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Glamorgan Jambo

Totally understand we have to lose players and trim the wage bill.

 

Was still a bit disappointed to see Clare go.

 

Really not in the slightest concerned about the departure of Washington.

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13 minutes ago, Vlad the impaler said:

I’d hoped we’d be emptying some of the crap players before the ones I’d rather have kept. We still need some quality to win this league,Washington was different from the rest of the strikers🙄

 

Likewise ....

 

I think the nature of their deals makes it easier for certain players to find new clubs. Perhaps not so easy to move on Wighton, Uche, etc.

 

Would have kept Washington

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Prince Buaben

if ever a player summed up Hearts under Levein then its Sean Clare.

Glimpes of ability and talent but lack of application and effort.

He did buy into Stendel and played well from Dec - Mar. 

Think the Championship would have been too physical for him at centre midfield.

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jamboinglasgow

So by the end of today, it sounds like Washington and Clare will be off. As someone rumoured here Uche and Wighton will have their contracts terminated, Hickey looks off but just a matter of where and if we can get rid of one goalkeeper and Damour, then I make it a 20 player first team squad with quite a cut in the wage bill. 

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I did say most internationals would be offski before Euro 2021. I'd expect Smith next.

 

Fortunately Boycey wants to repay the faith shown in him, hope we build around him and get the ball to him like he did Shankland.

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