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Bologna boss, Sinisa Mihajlovic, believes he has sealed the £2-million purchase of Aaron Hickey.

Hearts’ 18-year-old defender has a highly attractive counter offer to join Bayern Munich, and the German giants have been showing him around their facilities over the weekend.

However, during face-to-face talks at Bologna’s Casteldebole Sports Centre, he received a guarantee from former Serbian star Mihajlovic he would be made understudy to the team’s Dutch left-back, Mitchell Dijks.

An Italian media report of that commitment was enough to persuade Hickey to agree to join up for the 2020-21 Serie A campaign.

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9 minutes ago, HEARTS FOREVER said:

Could this be the type of deal that would possibly **** Celtic over?

😀

 

Nothing in the Celtic fee mentioning cut from a fee paying loan, then he signs for free at the end of his contract?

 

They get nowt.

 

Must admit, that would be pretty funny.

 

Slippery slope though.

 

 

 

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If it's a £2M loan fee and obligation to sign for a nominal fee or for nothing at the end of the loan term then that is absolutely side-splttingly hilarious, and is an exceptional piece of business by the club as Celtic might not see a penny! 

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1 hour ago, Uncle Buck said:

If Washington leaves we have Boyce, Naismith and Uche left. Not even going to include Wighton.

 

We could do with one more, but not Hemmings.

Why not Hemmings??

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4 minutes ago, Batistuta87 said:

If it's a £2M loan fee and obligation to sign for a nominal fee or for nothing at the end of the loan term then that is absolutely side-splttingly hilarious, and is an exceptional piece of business by the club as Celtic might not see a penny! 

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Yep. It seems, if that is the case, that we've found a loophole to get around the Celtic sell on percentage. They might get 30% of the training fee when he signs permanently for Bologna next summer. 

 

That would be very :pleasing:

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6 minutes ago, Cruyff said:

Yep. It seems, if that is the case, that we've found a loophole to get around the Celtic sell on percentage. They might get 30% of the training fee when he signs permanently for Bologna next summer. 

 

That would be very :pleasing:

Very! It would be a nominal fee nowhere near market value. I'd guess about £250k, meaning they would see less than £100k 😂

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2 minutes ago, Special Officer Doofy said:


Oh, Spencer. I must have really hurt you. :( 

Did Clare turn down Bayern to join Oxford Mothy?

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19 minutes ago, Batistuta87 said:

If it's a £2M loan fee and obligation to sign for a nominal fee or for nothing at the end of the loan term then that is absolutely side-splttingly hilarious, and is an exceptional piece of business by the club as Celtic might not see a penny! 

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If this is a loophole has it been used/tried before?

 

Also if it is a legitimate loophole there’s nothing to stop it happening to us in the future - I.e. with Hickey given Italian teams are particularly prone to loaning players before selling. 

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8 minutes ago, Special Officer Doofy said:


Oh, Spencer. I must have really hurt you. :( 

 

Never mind why hasn't he been launched, what drives a grown man to such lows. 

 

**** me. 

 

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29 minutes ago, Batistuta87 said:

If it's a £2M loan fee and obligation to sign for a nominal fee or for nothing at the end of the loan term then that is absolutely side-splttingly hilarious, and is an exceptional piece of business by the club as Celtic might not see a penny! 

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This would be fantastic. Of course Celtic could just stump up a proper transfer fee themselves for once... They're happy enough to splash 3, 4, 5m on foreign randoms.

 

 

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6 hours ago, gowestjambo said:

 

Agreed, and your first sentence sums it up!! Why we have neglected the midfield is criminal over the last few years.....

 

We've never replaced Djoum. Maybe Robbie can persuade him to come back, he played his best stuff under Neilson.

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3 minutes ago, Uncle Buck said:


Because he’s shit.

I admire you being straight to the point.....😂. I disagree however - would deffo get us a fair few goals.

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On 07/08/2020 at 04:25, Batistuta87 said:

Irvine would be a massive coup, and would instantly become one of our top players. It would be almost too good to be true if we signed him. Had a quick stalk and saw that Souttar and Garuccio both follow him on Instagram and I can't really see any link to Souttar other than a couple of caps for Scotland U19s. Garuccio obviously an Oz international teammate. 

 

Kingsley would also be a decent signing too but can't help but feel that Garuccio is more than good enough for the Championship. White would be fine as backup too (unless he's on a big wage and/or is leaving) and I'm assuming it would cost a lot less to have Garuccio and White than it would to have Kingsley alone?? Just guessing of course but he just be on much bigger wages than we're currently paying anyone....

 

Hemmings would be a decent signing too if Washington leaves. He's played and scored plenty in the league before so can't see any reason why he wouldn't do it for us too. Good signing for me, but not on too long a contract. 2yr max. 

 

 

 

Of all the players mentioned, if we could just get Irvine and Gordon, plus Frear and another wide player if possible I'd be happy with that transfer window. Irvine is exactly what we need in midfield. Can't imagine how we'd be able to afford him (or Kingsley) though. We only got Gordon because of the Hearts connection.

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1 minute ago, LarrysRightFoot said:

If this is a loophole has it been used/tried before?

 

Also if it is a legitimate loophole there’s nothing to stop it happening to us in the future - I.e. with Hickey given Italian teams are particularly prone to loaning players before selling. 

Doesn't even sound like anything as sneaky as finding a loophole, it sounds completely legit. Technically could happen to us later down the line as you say but I wouldn't expect a relatively well off Italian team to have any incentive to screw a wee Scottish team out of their cut. 

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7 minutes ago, Batistuta87 said:

Doesn't even sound like anything as sneaky as finding a loophole, it sounds completely legit. Technically could happen to us later down the line as you say but I wouldn't expect a relatively well off Italian team to have any incentive to screw a wee Scottish team out of their cut. 

 

The loaning for a season then paying the transfer fee at the end has been common in recent years as a way to sign a player but keep their fee to the next FFP year. Its why PSG loan Mbappe for a season before paying over 100m euros the following summer.

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1 minute ago, ToqueJambo said:

 

Of all the players mentioned, if we could just get Irvine and Gordon, plus Frear and another wide player if possible I'd be happy with that transfer window. Irvine is exactly what we need in midfield. Can't imagine how we'd be able to afford him (or Kingsley) though. We only got Gordon because of the Hearts connection.

Irvine would be our best signing since Naismith (maybe an even better signing than Naismith) if we somehow managed to land him. I really can't see it though. He must have been on min £10-15k p/w at Hull. Maybe even more. In the last couple of days there have been links to Sheff Wed and Birmingham so we won't be able to compete with them if true. 

 

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2 minutes ago, gowestjambo said:

 

I bet you cannot see the irony of your own post......

 

You think? There's absolutely zero doubt about who Doofy is, he's not pretending to be someone different. 

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2 minutes ago, gowestjambo said:

 

I bet you cannot see the irony of your own post......

Tbf, Doofy changes his name/photo a lot (so what, some people like to change it up occasionally, that's why we have barbers and wallpaper shops etc.) but his username history is always on display and available. Spencer Dubeke OTOH is behaving oddly at best...

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1 minute ago, August Landmesser said:

Spencer Dubeke OTOH is behaving oddly at best...


It’s one of the reasons he’s so easy to spot. That and a really obvious tell in his typing, that gives him away every time.

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1 minute ago, JimmyCant said:

Notts county 


You must have just been unlucky, he was something like a goal every 2.5 games, I think.

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1 hour ago, HEARTS FOREVER said:

Could this be the type of deal that would possibly **** Celtic over?

In short... yes. They wouldn’t get any money from a loan fee. Only transfer fee or development fee. 

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8 minutes ago, Special Officer Doofy said:


It’s one of the reasons he’s so easy to spot. That and a really obvious tell in his typing, that gives him away every time.

Funny how he only joined last week but knows that you're Mothy and that Spencer and Hendicks, posters long gone (!), are different people.

Isn't that just the damnedest thing?

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Just now, Tynecastlesmychurch said:

In short... yes. They wouldn’t get any money from a loan fee. Only transfer fee or development fee. 

We don't actually know that, there may well be provision for a cut of temporary transfer fees as well as permanent ones.

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Just now, Smithee said:

Funny how he only joined last week but knows that you're Mothy and that Spencer and Hendicks, posters long gone (!), are different people.

Isn't that just the damnedest thing?


Tragic, isn’t it? Honestly don’t know what he gets out of it. A seriously strange chap with impotent rage problems.

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4 minutes ago, Smithee said:

We don't actually know that, there may well be provision for a cut of temporary transfer fees as well as permanent ones.

True. That is a possibility but until anything happens we won’t know. 

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1 hour ago, Special Officer Doofy said:


You must have just been unlucky, he was something like a goal every 2.5 games, I think.

Sure, but the standard in that league is dreadful. Look he might do okay in the championship if he keeps the weight down and works hard. He’s a championship player at best though.

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8 hours ago, CJGJ said:

Please can we stop all this nonsense about him being loaned back if he goes to Bologna

 

Hickey has already been told he will be number 2 to their current left back and will play if he gets injured..but he will be part of the first team squad.

He will not be sent out on loan which is why he is attracted to the move

 

He goes, we get a fee, we pay Celtic their cut and we can try to negotiate a sell on clause...there really is nothing more than that to that particular deal. Please no nonsense about trying to cut Celtic out of any fee for that is all it is nonsense

 

Re other clubs who knows but keeping him on loan is not part of any current deal with other clubs 

 

Who said he's getting loaned back? The loan agreement would be bologna loaning him for a year with them having agreed to pay the fee after the year expires. He'd be at bologna for that year. Nonsense indeed 🙄

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5 hours ago, Tynecastlesmychurch said:

In short... yes. They wouldn’t get any money from a loan fee. Only transfer fee or development fee. 

I love it. 👌

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4 hours ago, JimmyCant said:

Sure, but the standard in that league is dreadful. Look he might do okay in the championship if he keeps the weight down and works hard. He’s a championship player at best though.


EFL2 is a very poor standard, I agree completely. He does have a good goal scoring record pretty much everywhere he’s been bar two clubs though. I think he’d do a job for us, if given the supply. Keatings was a bit shit overall too, but did us a turn::

 

 

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39 minutes ago, Kiwidoug said:

Wish I knew what a loan fee means.

Fairly simple. Club takes a player on loan and pays the club they come from a fee for the loan of the player. 

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5 hours ago, Newton51 said:

 

 

Lets hope this turns into a bidding war and drive the price right up.

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7 hours ago, ToqueJambo said:

 

Of all the players mentioned, if we could just get Irvine and Gordon, plus Frear and another wide player if possible I'd be happy with that transfer window. Irvine is exactly what we need in midfield. Can't imagine how we'd be able to afford him (or Kingsley) though. We only got Gordon because of the Hearts connection.

Sorry but who’s Irvine? 

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8 hours ago, Batistuta87 said:

If it's a £2M loan fee and obligation to sign for a nominal fee or for nothing at the end of the loan term then that is absolutely side-splttingly hilarious, and is an exceptional piece of business by the club as Celtic might not see a penny! 

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That would be mega!

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1 hour ago, bazman said:

Fairly simple. Club takes a player on loan and pays the club they come from a fee for the loan of the player. 

What happens after the loan ends? I'm not trying to be smart here.  I have genuinely never heard of this before.

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58 minutes ago, Finlay James said:

 

Lets hope this turns into a bidding war and drive the price right up.

Seems it already has. 

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LarrysRightFoot
8 hours ago, Batistuta87 said:

Doesn't even sound like anything as sneaky as finding a loophole, it sounds completely legit. Technically could happen to us later down the line as you say but I wouldn't expect a relatively well off Italian team to have any incentive to screw a wee Scottish team out of their cut. 

If a loan fee is effectively being paid instead of a transfer fee to avoid paying a sell on clause I would say it is sneaky and something we may fall foul of in the future. Sell on fees in general will effectively become worthless in the future. 

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29 minutes ago, Kiwidoug said:

What happens after the loan ends? I'm not trying to be smart here.  I have genuinely never heard of this before.

 

Aaron will be at the end of his current Hearts contract when the loan ends so Bologna will be free to sign him and probably only have to pay a nominal development fee (not sure how it works internationally). We pocket the 2M as a fee for them loaning him for the year and wouldn't have to give any of that to Celtic since it's not a transfer fee :lol: 

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10 minutes ago, LarrysRightFoot said:

If a loan fee is effectively being paid instead of a transfer fee to avoid paying a sell on clause I would say it is sneaky and something we may fall foul of in the future. Sell on fees in general will effectively become worthless in the future. 


Not the first time this has been pulled. Just make sure the clause includes temporary moves 

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38 minutes ago, Kiwidoug said:

What happens after the loan ends? I'm not trying to be smart here.  I have genuinely never heard of this before.

Normally in the deal there is an agreement to buy for a certain fee or they return to their club. However as Hickey is out of contract at the end of that I'd imagine it would be a nominal one if any

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9 hours ago, Special Officer Doofy said:


Yep, thought so. Glad somebody else liked him too. There were plenty on here who thought he was shite. Think it was down to his “shepherding” the ball out for goal kicks. 

I liked ‘The Shepherd’ too. He wAs the only player that could shepherd the ball out for a goal kick, from the half way line. 😂😂😂

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10 hours ago, Special Officer Doofy said:

Did Jose Goncalves not go on a similar type of deal from us, and then end up returning? 

He was shite, but yes, I think Bednar did too IIRC except he completed the move to West Brom.

Rudi initially joined us on loan with an option to buy at the end of the season, which we took up then immediately sold him on.

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