pettigrewsstylist Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Hungry hippo said: Completely improper to release the votes midway through a vote even if it is allowed to extend the deadline. Are they suggesting to declare votes and then allow more members to vote tactically over the next 26 days if reqd? There is millions of pounds in play and employees careers/contracts, sponsorship, tv rights, prize money Absolutely wide open to corruption and conflicts of interest everywhere. No win, no claim lawyer would take that on for free! Edited April 10, 2020 by pettigrewsstylist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, CJGJ said: Well if the vote was too late it should fall and cannot be counted Championship needs 8 votes and only received 7 It's not too late if they had 28 days to vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonsgotop Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: Just heard from a good source that Hearts and Rangers abstained and Aberdeen voted no. 10 voted yes though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Just now, Barack said: A few players will also be getting loaned out to ICT for today too, as I've intimated. That would be the equivalent of waking up to find a horses head in your bed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Aberdeen change minds at last minute? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrymac Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Mikey1874 said: If that was the case then why announce the results now , and coerce the team still to vote? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 22 minutes ago, pettigrewsstylist said: We are like a wee banana republic 🍌😂 Although perhaps a little to close to the truth, bud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 So if 'Inverness' are going to vote No but are waiting till the 28 days, will that delay things so much the Resolution has to be withdrawn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks said no Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, BarneyBattles said: This 28 day thing, if that’s the case why were clubs given 2 days rather than take 28 days to consider it? Because some clubs are desperate for cash and could suffer administration events which will obviously bring about point deductions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrymac Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Jamboelite said: The Deadline was a request they have 28days so its not void. But they announce the state of the vote??? Edited April 10, 2020 by merrymac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc1984 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: Just heard from a good source that Hearts and Rangers abstained and Aberdeen voted no. Diane Abbot? 10+3=12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzyonthefence Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, hughesie27 said: 1 Championship club is currently aware that it is in complete control of the future of Scottish Football. Easy to bully and blackmail then. All the more reason not to make this public - personal safety and all that of those concerned. We know what fans can be like in Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millerjames398 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Footballfirst said: I posted this on the wrong thread I've seen posts from that twitter account previously and generally it does seem to be in the know. Let's assume for a moment that the timeline in the twitter thread is accurate. How does Neil Doncaster explain why the SPFL Board put out a statement that only referenced the email contact with Rod McKenzie and omitted to mention the contact made with himself (the SPFL's Chief Exec) and others in the SPFL management group. If the Rangers account of the timeline is correct, then it does demonstrate a level of misinformation and coercion in order to achieve the Board's aim. As ever when governing bodies attempt a cover up, the consequences of that can be just as serious. Wouldnt put anything past dongcaster, after all did he not come out of the semi final debacle meeting, insisting all clubs were on board with the decision to play all games in the same city, only for hearts and Aberdeen to come out and say they weren't having it, mans ****in hopeless. 🇱🇻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Mikey1874 said: So if 'Inverness' are going to vote No but are waiting till the 28 days, will that delay things so much the Resolution has to be withdrawn? What if Caley are leaned on and chamge to a yes vote ? Must be a possibility Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOak88 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: Just heard from a good source that Hearts and Rangers abstained and Aberdeen voted no. I would reconsider using the term “good source”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livi Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jamboelite said: The Deadline was a request they have 28days so its not void. How can they give an update on the votes made then. 😠 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stotty Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, The Mercer Takeover said: Whole thing is a circus. I suspect Hearts and Rangers didn't vote, nullifying the whole thing. Agree completely on the disgusting pressure put on a Championship team to vote. Heads must roll at the SPFL for releasing data before it is fully complete. Scottish football is rotten to the core. It beggars belief they have released results so far. Just when you think it can't get any more corrupt or underhand, it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettigrewsstylist Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 (edited) ICT, or whoever it may be, waiting for offers We are a diddy country Edited April 10, 2020 by pettigrewsstylist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzyonthefence Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, stan said: That would be a glorious shambles if that's where we end iup😂 28 days later...zombie clubs everywhere! I’d rather they used the 28 days to come up with a sensible solution. Get Rangers proposal improved / legalised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 9 minutes ago, stan said: That would be a glorious shambles if that's where we end iup😂 28 days later...zombie clubs everywhere! Points deductions galore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bean counter Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: Just heard from a good source that Hearts and Rangers abstained and Aberdeen voted no. That can't be correct the spfl say they have 10 for and 1 against so only one team left to declare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolkeith Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, The Mercer Takeover said: Whole thing is a circus. I suspect Hearts and Rangers didn't vote, nullifying the whole thing. Agree completely on the disgusting pressure put on a Championship team to vote. Heads must roll at the SPFL for releasing data before it is fully complete. Scottish football is rotten to the core. Hearts and Partick won’t have voted for legal reasons and to allow 28 days for further negotiation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirt Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Fozzyonthefence said: Easy to bully and blackmail then. All the more reason not to make this public - personal safety and all that of those concerned. We know what fans can be like in Scotland. Or on the flip side, easy for Inverness, if it's them, to sell their vote to the highest bidder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie1874 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 9 minutes ago, StevenNaismith said: I’m trying to get it confirmed but I don’t think Hearts voted. If this is indeed the case then AB has played a blinder. certainly seems that way. No doubt we would have lawyers all over this and if there was a pushed through vote that doesn’t match the normal 28 day consultation period then we are quite right not to get involved in this shambles. Would hope that it’s for one of two Reasons 1. to ensure league reconstruction is on the table 2. to enhance our legal position of this demotion as a result of clubs voting and not the outcome of a league season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 17 minutes ago, Hungry hippo said: Completely improper to release the votes midway through a vote even if it is allowed to extend the deadline. Correct. I hope ICT come out and say they have abstained and have no intention of voting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back to 2005 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 No surprise that Aberdeen did what Celtic told them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboelite Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, merrymac said: But they announce the state of the vote??? Yes because they want to put pressure on clubs Hence the calls to clubs from the SPFL, the Rod Petrie statement and every other underhanded tactic they can think of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirky Jambo Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: So if 'Inverness' are going to vote No but are waiting till the 28 days, will that delay things so much the Resolution has to be withdrawn? or at least Rangers sort their proposal drafting out and get it through in the meantime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rannoch Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 It is illegal to publish: opinion or exit polls , or any details of actual voting in UK elections before the close of polling. The SG Minister for Sport, Mr Joe Fitzpatrick must make a statement on the behaviour of the SPFL chairman Mr Doncaster in releasing a statement before all votes were cast which would corroborate the claims by Stewart Robertson , Director of Rangers FC , of bullying clubs to vote for the SPFL board resolution. Mr Fitzpatrick has a political responsibility that football is governed in Scotland by fit and proper people. The SPFL board has caused reputational damage to the status of Scottish football and therefore it is incumbent on Mr Fitzpatrick to investigate this matter . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, pettigrewsstylist said: ICT, or whoever it may be, waiting for offers We are a diddy country The offer to get promoted via Reconstruction. Massive opportunity financially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirt Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Can someone please confirm if I've got this right please? Regardless of the motion passing or failing, it cannot be declared either way until every single club has voted. So if it's Hearts that haven't voted yet we could just say we're going to take our sweet time, come ask us again in 3 weeks. If your club has hit the wall by that time, tough tits to you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Koolkeith Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, livi said: How can they give an update on the votes made then. 😠 Because they’re dicks and Hearts and Partick are hopefully 2 of the 3 they’re yet to hear from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, Squirt said: Or on the flip side, easy for Inverness, if it's them, to sell their vote to the highest bidder. Which is why releasing a statement with votes earlier the SPFL have helped any legal arguement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Back to 2005 said: No surprise that Aberdeen did what Celtic told them. There's was 1 no vote registered I though ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonsgotop Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: Aberdeen change minds at last minute? doubt it. Were probably always going to vote yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Mikey1874 said: The offer to get promoted via Reconstruction. Massive opportunity financially. Inverness should be saying make reconstruction legally binding and then we’ll vote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Rannoch said: It is illegal to publish: opinion or exit polls , or any details of actual voting in UK elections before the close of polling. The SG Minister for Sport, Mr Joe Fitzpatrick must make a statement on the behaviour of the SPFL chairman Mr Doncaster in releasing a statement before all votes were cast which would corroborate the claims by Stewart Robertson , Director of Rangers FC , of bullying clubs to vote for the SPFL board resolution. Mr Fitzpatrick has a political responsibility that football is governed in Scotland by fit and proper people. The SPFL board has caused reputational damage to the status of Scottish football and therefore it is incumbent on Mr Fitzpatrick to investigate this matter . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Squirt said: Can someone please confirm if I've got this right please? Regardless of the motion passing or failing, it cannot be declared either way until every single club has voted. So if it's Hearts that haven't voted yet we could just say we're going to take our sweet time, come ask us again in 3 weeks. If your club has hit the wall by that time, tough tits to you? You’d think. But you’d also think a league couldn’t be decided until every single game was played.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonsgotop Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, Back to 2005 said: No surprise that Aberdeen did what Celtic told them. nope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger Is Back Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 1 minute ago, jambovambo said: Clearly that appears to be the case but publishing the votes now? It's either a feck up or a manouvere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bean counter Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Just now, Back to 2005 said: No surprise that Aberdeen did what Celtic told them. I said before Aberdeen have previous for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboelite Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Squirt said: Can someone please confirm if I've got this right please? Regardless of the motion passing or failing, it cannot be declared either way until every single club has voted. So if it's Hearts that haven't voted yet we could just say we're going to take our sweet time, come ask us again in 3 weeks. If your club has hit the wall by that time, tough tits to you? Thats the crux and if that is the case i hope we take it right upto the last second. It ruins any chance of league reconstruction being voted for if we are the bad guy but you know what i’ll goto the Championship knowing we gave a massive **** you back to the SPFL and all the clubs who took cash over sporting integrity. Edited April 10, 2020 by Jamboelite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, The Mercer Takeover said: Whole thing is a circus. I suspect Hearts and Rangers didn't vote, nullifying the whole thing. Agree completely on the disgusting pressure put on a Championship team to vote. Heads must roll at the SPFL for releasing data before it is fully complete. Scottish football is rotten to the core. One of us or Huns voted no. I think huns didn’t vote because of the proposal they made. We’ve been quiet though since 5 so you don’t know. I’ve said from beginning hearts shouldn’t have voted so hopefully it’s that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirt Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Just now, Jamboelite said: Thats the crux and if that is the case i hope we take it right upto the last second. That would be sweet as a nut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drumelzier Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 1 minute ago, maroonsgotop said: doubt it. Were probably always going to vote yes I'm becoming a little sceptical that the figures they published on that chart are correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonsgotop Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 1 minute ago, bean counter said: I said before Aberdeen have previous for it correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirt Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Just now, Last Laff said: One of us or Huns voted no. I think huns didn’t vote because of the proposal they made. We’ve been quiet though since 5 so you don’t know. I’ve said from beginning hearts shouldn’t have voted so hopefully it’s that. A guy on Twitter who writes articles exclusively about Rangers is claiming it's us that haven't voted. I wonder if that's why Budge said she wasn't worried about us being relegated just now, and if it does eventually happen she'll deal with it. Maybe she's known all along we can drag this out and bend the leagues over a barrel the same as they're doing to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, David McCaig said: Inverness should be saying make reconstruction legally binding and then we’ll vote Aye because they will get that agreed to right enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboelite Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 1 minute ago, BarneyBattles said: I’d say it’s both. Fekking idiots. Based on Rangers earlier statement its about applying pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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