SPFL and Covid ( Leagues 1 and 2 to restart )

[Italian Lambretta]

4 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

I'm actually in shock after reading Provo's piece. Genuinely in shock.

 

DAVIE PROVAN SFA are barely relevant on Hampden’s sixth floor and are allowing SPFL to run leagues like Sicialian Mafia writes Provan

IN a rare public appearance this week, SFA chief executive Ian Maxwell offered his take on the Covid-19 crisis.

He said: “We hope all the clubs survive and we are absolutely determined to ensure they all survive.”

Ian Maxwell gave his thoughts on the coronavirus crisis

 

Nice soundbite, but it’s clear he doesn’t have a clue where our game is headed right now.

My own hunch is that Maxwell and Neil Doncaster will end up at Holyrood begging for a taxpayer bailout.

Either way, a bit of leadership from the SFA is overdue.

Up until now the governing body has been posted missing.

 

Meanwhile, down the corridor the SPFL has been running the leagues like the Sicilian Mafia.

When Maxwell and running mate Rod Petrie should have been blowing the whistle on Doncaster’s gang, they washed their hands of responsibility.

Those of my vintage will recall different times. Ernie Walker and Jim Farry both had their faults, but they ensured the SFA was always in charge. Those running the leagues knew their place. They were the junior partners in the relationship.

Now the SFA is barely relevant on Hampden’s sixth floor. When they should be holding the SPFL to account they’ve become the SPFL’s glove puppet instead.

Love to know what Maxwell makes of recent events. In particular the Good Friday voting circus that concluded with gullible Dundee MD John Nelms buying a reconstruction fairy tale.

That allowed the SPFL to pursue the only agenda they had from day one. Getting the leagues called, dishing out prize money and to hell with the collateral damage.

 

That ballot shambles should have been enough to have the SFA flexing some muscle, but they didn’t want to know.

Biggest victims of the vote stitch-up were Hearts and Partick Thistle. No disrespect to Stranraer who were also shafted, but the priority should be looking after full-time clubs whose players play for their living.

My pal Tony Fitzpatrick, the St Mirren chief executive, offered his opinion on the imminent relegation of Hearts saying, “They’d have struggled to get off the bottom and deserve to be relegated.”

Sorry mate, you’re so wrong.

Yeah, the Jambos have been a disgrace and deserved to be bottom of the league when football was stopped. But they still had a decent chance of saving themselves with eight games outstanding.

How can directors of Premiership clubs look Hearts chairman Ann Budge in the eye when the Tynecastle club is facing a £3million hit?

With suggestions Championship clubs will play a curtailed season beginning next January, how do Hearts keep the lights on for seven months without any income?

Only in Scotland would we boot the country’s third biggest club out of the league needlessly.

Mind you, these are the same people who made the lunatic decision to put Rangers in League Two.

Meanwhile, Budge could do without the disingenuous guff she’s hearing.

Hamilton’s Allan Maitland assures us Accies were never in danger, saying, “We weren’t too worried about the team behind us. From that point of view we were a wee bit disappointed the season finished when it did.”

Four points from relegation, 24 points up for grabs and he wasn’t worried? Do us a favour.

Elsewhere, the treatment of Thistle in the Championship beggars belief. Relegated when just two points behind Queen of the South with a game in hand? Are they having a laugh?

With talk of the two lower leagues padlocking the gates for a season, where would that leave Thistle?
Having threatened legal action, Budge is having another go at league reconstruction. A 14-10-10-10 set-up would help a lot of clubs. It would spare Hearts, Thistle and    Stranraer,           see Falkirk promoted and give Brora Rangers and Kelty Hearts a leg up.

In the mythical world of sporting integrity it’s a no-brainer, if only for a couple of seasons.

The Premiership would boast derbies in Glasgow, Edinburgh and the Highlands, with the New Firm derby back where it belongs too.

Are Sky Sports going to object to that? Wouldn’t sponsors, currently running for the hills, buy into it?

Unfortunately, Budge has made a few enemies during this crisis. It’s difficult to see how she gets the numbers to overcome that ludicrous top-flight voting system.

Chances are she’ll be left with the nuclear option of going to the courts. If she takes that route I wish her well.

Thats a really good article from an out and out celticky individual. We need more of this from these types

[Seymour M Hersh]

49 minutes ago, Cigaro said:

The Sun apparently saying that all Old Firm games may be postponed until 2021 to avoid them having to be played behind closed doors.

Why? What makes those games merit fans more than any other?

 

I take it that's a rhetorical question. 

[BelgeJambo]

41 minutes ago, Special Officer Doofy said:

 

 

❤️

 

Nearly a new pledge for every page. Well done Kickback 😃

[Deevers]

8 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

 

**** him he's a patronising insincere wankpiece. 

Exactly - the prat takes every opportunity he can to have a go at us. 

[Deso1972]

9 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

I'm actually in shock after reading Provo's piece. Genuinely in shock.

 

DAVIE PROVAN SFA are barely relevant on Hampden’s sixth floor and are allowing SPFL to run leagues like Sicialian Mafia writes Provan

IN a rare public appearance this week, SFA chief executive Ian Maxwell offered his take on the Covid-19 crisis.

He said: “We hope all the clubs survive and we are absolutely determined to ensure they all survive.”

Ian Maxwell gave his thoughts on the coronavirus crisis

 

Nice soundbite, but it’s clear he doesn’t have a clue where our game is headed right now.

My own hunch is that Maxwell and Neil Doncaster will end up at Holyrood begging for a taxpayer bailout.

Either way, a bit of leadership from the SFA is overdue.

Up until now the governing body has been posted missing.

 

Meanwhile, down the corridor the SPFL has been running the leagues like the Sicilian Mafia.

When Maxwell and running mate Rod Petrie should have been blowing the whistle on Doncaster’s gang, they washed their hands of responsibility.

Those of my vintage will recall different times. Ernie Walker and Jim Farry both had their faults, but they ensured the SFA was always in charge. Those running the leagues knew their place. They were the junior partners in the relationship.

Now the SFA is barely relevant on Hampden’s sixth floor. When they should be holding the SPFL to account they’ve become the SPFL’s glove puppet instead.

Love to know what Maxwell makes of recent events. In particular the Good Friday voting circus that concluded with gullible Dundee MD John Nelms buying a reconstruction fairy tale.

That allowed the SPFL to pursue the only agenda they had from day one. Getting the leagues called, dishing out prize money and to hell with the collateral damage.

 

That ballot shambles should have been enough to have the SFA flexing some muscle, but they didn’t want to know.

Biggest victims of the vote stitch-up were Hearts and Partick Thistle. No disrespect to Stranraer who were also shafted, but the priority should be looking after full-time clubs whose players play for their living.

My pal Tony Fitzpatrick, the St Mirren chief executive, offered his opinion on the imminent relegation of Hearts saying, “They’d have struggled to get off the bottom and deserve to be relegated.”

Sorry mate, you’re so wrong.

Yeah, the Jambos have been a disgrace and deserved to be bottom of the league when football was stopped. But they still had a decent chance of saving themselves with eight games outstanding.

How can directors of Premiership clubs look Hearts chairman Ann Budge in the eye when the Tynecastle club is facing a £3million hit?

With suggestions Championship clubs will play a curtailed season beginning next January, how do Hearts keep the lights on for seven months without any income?

Only in Scotland would we boot the country’s third biggest club out of the league needlessly.

Mind you, these are the same people who made the lunatic decision to put Rangers in League Two.

Meanwhile, Budge could do without the disingenuous guff she’s hearing.

Hamilton’s Allan Maitland assures us Accies were never in danger, saying, “We weren’t too worried about the team behind us. From that point of view we were a wee bit disappointed the season finished when it did.”

Four points from relegation, 24 points up for grabs and he wasn’t worried? Do us a favour.

Elsewhere, the treatment of Thistle in the Championship beggars belief. Relegated when just two points behind Queen of the South with a game in hand? Are they having a laugh?

With talk of the two lower leagues padlocking the gates for a season, where would that leave Thistle?
Having threatened legal action, Budge is having another go at league reconstruction. A 14-10-10-10 set-up would help a lot of clubs. It would spare Hearts, Thistle and    Stranraer,           see Falkirk promoted and give Brora Rangers and Kelty Hearts a leg up.

In the mythical world of sporting integrity it’s a no-brainer, if only for a couple of seasons.

The Premiership would boast derbies in Glasgow, Edinburgh and the Highlands, with the New Firm derby back where it belongs too.

Are Sky Sports going to object to that? Wouldn’t sponsors, currently running for the hills, buy into it?

Unfortunately, Budge has made a few enemies during this crisis. It’s difficult to see how she gets the numbers to overcome that ludicrous top-flight voting system.

Chances are she’ll be left with the nuclear option of going to the courts. If she takes that route I wish her well.

 

Is irt safe to assume Davie Provan  is off sick / posted missing after celebrating too much; and the apprentice jumped in to fill his column this weeked? (no giggling at the back!)

[Thomaso]

2 hours ago, Deevers said:

 Not going to count our chickens here. I simply don’t trust the SPFL and I don’t trust any other club in the Premiership these days. 

The Lochend mob will stab us in the back no matter the financial penalty to them! It’s in their genes!

[Thomaso]

14 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

I'm actually in shock after reading Provo's piece. Genuinely in shock.

 

DAVIE PROVAN SFA are barely relevant on Hampden’s sixth floor and are allowing SPFL to run leagues like Sicialian Mafia writes Provan

IN a rare public appearance this week, SFA chief executive Ian Maxwell offered his take on the Covid-19 crisis.

He said: “We hope all the clubs survive and we are absolutely determined to ensure they all survive.”

Ian Maxwell gave his thoughts on the coronavirus crisis

 

Nice soundbite, but it’s clear he doesn’t have a clue where our game is headed right now.

My own hunch is that Maxwell and Neil Doncaster will end up at Holyrood begging for a taxpayer bailout.

Either way, a bit of leadership from the SFA is overdue.

Up until now the governing body has been posted missing.

 

Meanwhile, down the corridor the SPFL has been running the leagues like the Sicilian Mafia.

When Maxwell and running mate Rod Petrie should have been blowing the whistle on Doncaster’s gang, they washed their hands of responsibility.

Those of my vintage will recall different times. Ernie Walker and Jim Farry both had their faults, but they ensured the SFA was always in charge. Those running the leagues knew their place. They were the junior partners in the relationship.

Now the SFA is barely relevant on Hampden’s sixth floor. When they should be holding the SPFL to account they’ve become the SPFL’s glove puppet instead.

Love to know what Maxwell makes of recent events. In particular the Good Friday voting circus that concluded with gullible Dundee MD John Nelms buying a reconstruction fairy tale.

That allowed the SPFL to pursue the only agenda they had from day one. Getting the leagues called, dishing out prize money and to hell with the collateral damage.

 

That ballot shambles should have been enough to have the SFA flexing some muscle, but they didn’t want to know.

Biggest victims of the vote stitch-up were Hearts and Partick Thistle. No disrespect to Stranraer who were also shafted, but the priority should be looking after full-time clubs whose players play for their living.

My pal Tony Fitzpatrick, the St Mirren chief executive, offered his opinion on the imminent relegation of Hearts saying, “They’d have struggled to get off the bottom and deserve to be relegated.”

Sorry mate, you’re so wrong.

Yeah, the Jambos have been a disgrace and deserved to be bottom of the league when football was stopped. But they still had a decent chance of saving themselves with eight games outstanding.

How can directors of Premiership clubs look Hearts chairman Ann Budge in the eye when the Tynecastle club is facing a £3million hit?

With suggestions Championship clubs will play a curtailed season beginning next January, how do Hearts keep the lights on for seven months without any income?

Only in Scotland would we boot the country’s third biggest club out of the league needlessly.

Mind you, these are the same people who made the lunatic decision to put Rangers in League Two.

Meanwhile, Budge could do without the disingenuous guff she’s hearing.

Hamilton’s Allan Maitland assures us Accies were never in danger, saying, “We weren’t too worried about the team behind us. From that point of view we were a wee bit disappointed the season finished when it did.”

Four points from relegation, 24 points up for grabs and he wasn’t worried? Do us a favour.

Elsewhere, the treatment of Thistle in the Championship beggars belief. Relegated when just two points behind Queen of the South with a game in hand? Are they having a laugh?

With talk of the two lower leagues padlocking the gates for a season, where would that leave Thistle?
Having threatened legal action, Budge is having another go at league reconstruction. A 14-10-10-10 set-up would help a lot of clubs. It would spare Hearts, Thistle and    Stranraer,           see Falkirk promoted and give Brora Rangers and Kelty Hearts a leg up.

In the mythical world of sporting integrity it’s a no-brainer, if only for a couple of seasons.

The Premiership would boast derbies in Glasgow, Edinburgh and the Highlands, with the New Firm derby back where it belongs too.

Are Sky Sports going to object to that? Wouldn’t sponsors, currently running for the hills, buy into it?

Unfortunately, Budge has made a few enemies during this crisis. It’s difficult to see how she gets the numbers to overcome that ludicrous top-flight voting system.

Chances are she’ll be left with the nuclear option of going to the courts. If she takes that route I wish her well.

WOW!!!!! And that is from Davie Provan! 😳

Broadcast his comments far and wide!

[Francis Albert]

15 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

 

**** him he's a patronising insincere wankpiece. 

Agreed. Read the last couple of paragraphs and after all the irrelevant drivel you get to his message. Hearts are acting without dignity and should know their place.

talking about aidan smith of course

Edited May 24, 2020 by Francis Albert

[buzzbomb]

3 minutes ago, Francis Albert said:

Agreed. Read the last couple of paragraphs and after all the irrelevant drivel you get to his message. Hearts are acting without dignity and should know their place.

Yes, all that waffle just to have a dig.

Edited May 24, 2020 by buzzbomb

[3fingersreid]

14 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

 

**** him he's a patronising insincere wankpiece. 

Was the “ pong “ ( is he 10 years old? ) he’s describing not the aroma from the distillery and not a brewery ?

Either way as you’ve posted , he fits that description exactly .

[stirlo]

1 hour ago, Cigaro said:

The Sun apparently saying that all Old Firm games may be postponed until 2021 to avoid them having to be played behind closed doors.

Why? What makes those games merit fans more than any other?

 

I saw this this morning. If correct, it genuinely defies belief that anyone could seriously put forward such a suggestion. The arrogance is just breathtaking. Why don't they just create their own two team league, play each other every week and Sky can televise all the games? Perhaps that would keep everyone happy.

[manaliveits105]

1 690 thread to celebrate ceptics 8.79 in a row though 

[Fozzyonthefence]

12 minutes ago, Italian Lambretta said:

Thats a really good article from an out and out celticky individual. We need more of this from these types

It is and surprisingly even wishes AB well if she goes down the legal route.  Pity he had to put in a sentence suggesting Sevco should have been voted into the Premiership, despite not even meeting the criteria to join the 4th tier!

[Gordon Ramsay]

11 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said:

The Lochend mob will stab us in the back no matter the financial penalty to them! It’s in their genes!

 

Anything to avoid an Easter Road pumping. 

[wavydavy]

1 hour ago, Cigaro said:

The Sun apparently saying that all Old Firm games may be postponed until 2021 to avoid them having to be played behind closed doors.

Why? What makes those games merit fans more than any other?

 

The sad truth is unfortunately that without the old firm games to offer the TV Companies nobody is interested in watching any of the other SPFL teams especially in England.

 

One of the things that sell these games is the toxic atmosphere so without a crowd it is less attractive.

[Des Lynam]

22 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

I'm actually in shock after reading Provo's piece. Genuinely in shock.

 

DAVIE PROVAN SFA are barely relevant on Hampden’s sixth floor and are allowing SPFL to run leagues like Sicialian Mafia writes Provan

IN a rare public appearance this week, SFA chief executive Ian Maxwell offered his take on the Covid-19 crisis.

He said: “We hope all the clubs survive and we are absolutely determined to ensure they all survive.”

Ian Maxwell gave his thoughts on the coronavirus crisis

 

Nice soundbite, but it’s clear he doesn’t have a clue where our game is headed right now.

My own hunch is that Maxwell and Neil Doncaster will end up at Holyrood begging for a taxpayer bailout.

Either way, a bit of leadership from the SFA is overdue.

Up until now the governing body has been posted missing.

 

Meanwhile, down the corridor the SPFL has been running the leagues like the Sicilian Mafia.

When Maxwell and running mate Rod Petrie should have been blowing the whistle on Doncaster’s gang, they washed their hands of responsibility.

Those of my vintage will recall different times. Ernie Walker and Jim Farry both had their faults, but they ensured the SFA was always in charge. Those running the leagues knew their place. They were the junior partners in the relationship.

Now the SFA is barely relevant on Hampden’s sixth floor. When they should be holding the SPFL to account they’ve become the SPFL’s glove puppet instead.

Love to know what Maxwell makes of recent events. In particular the Good Friday voting circus that concluded with gullible Dundee MD John Nelms buying a reconstruction fairy tale.

That allowed the SPFL to pursue the only agenda they had from day one. Getting the leagues called, dishing out prize money and to hell with the collateral damage.

 

That ballot shambles should have been enough to have the SFA flexing some muscle, but they didn’t want to know.

Biggest victims of the vote stitch-up were Hearts and Partick Thistle. No disrespect to Stranraer who were also shafted, but the priority should be looking after full-time clubs whose players play for their living.

My pal Tony Fitzpatrick, the St Mirren chief executive, offered his opinion on the imminent relegation of Hearts saying, “They’d have struggled to get off the bottom and deserve to be relegated.”

Sorry mate, you’re so wrong.

Yeah, the Jambos have been a disgrace and deserved to be bottom of the league when football was stopped. But they still had a decent chance of saving themselves with eight games outstanding.

How can directors of Premiership clubs look Hearts chairman Ann Budge in the eye when the Tynecastle club is facing a £3million hit?

With suggestions Championship clubs will play a curtailed season beginning next January, how do Hearts keep the lights on for seven months without any income?

Only in Scotland would we boot the country’s third biggest club out of the league needlessly.

Mind you, these are the same people who made the lunatic decision to put Rangers in League Two.

Meanwhile, Budge could do without the disingenuous guff she’s hearing.

Hamilton’s Allan Maitland assures us Accies were never in danger, saying, “We weren’t too worried about the team behind us. From that point of view we were a wee bit disappointed the season finished when it did.”

Four points from relegation, 24 points up for grabs and he wasn’t worried? Do us a favour.

Elsewhere, the treatment of Thistle in the Championship beggars belief. Relegated when just two points behind Queen of the South with a game in hand? Are they having a laugh?

With talk of the two lower leagues padlocking the gates for a season, where would that leave Thistle?
Having threatened legal action, Budge is having another go at league reconstruction. A 14-10-10-10 set-up would help a lot of clubs. It would spare Hearts, Thistle and    Stranraer,           see Falkirk promoted and give Brora Rangers and Kelty Hearts a leg up.

In the mythical world of sporting integrity it’s a no-brainer, if only for a couple of seasons.

The Premiership would boast derbies in Glasgow, Edinburgh and the Highlands, with the New Firm derby back where it belongs too.

Are Sky Sports going to object to that? Wouldn’t sponsors, currently running for the hills, buy into it?

Unfortunately, Budge has made a few enemies during this crisis. It’s difficult to see how she gets the numbers to overcome that ludicrous top-flight voting system.

Chances are she’ll be left with the nuclear option of going to the courts. If she takes that route I wish her well.

That’s more shocking than anything you’ve uncovered in your career. Well said Davie Provan. 

[downunder jambo]

24 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

I'm actually in shock after reading Provo's piece. Genuinely in shock.

 

DAVIE PROVAN SFA are barely relevant on Hampden’s sixth floor and are allowing SPFL to run leagues like Sicialian Mafia writes Provan

IN a rare public appearance this week, SFA chief executive Ian Maxwell offered his take on the Covid-19 crisis.

He said: “We hope all the clubs survive and we are absolutely determined to ensure they all survive.”

Ian Maxwell gave his thoughts on the coronavirus crisis

 

Nice soundbite, but it’s clear he doesn’t have a clue where our game is headed right now.

My own hunch is that Maxwell and Neil Doncaster will end up at Holyrood begging for a taxpayer bailout.

Either way, a bit of leadership from the SFA is overdue.

Up until now the governing body has been posted missing.

 

Meanwhile, down the corridor the SPFL has been running the leagues like the Sicilian Mafia.

When Maxwell and running mate Rod Petrie should have been blowing the whistle on Doncaster’s gang, they washed their hands of responsibility.

Those of my vintage will recall different times. Ernie Walker and Jim Farry both had their faults, but they ensured the SFA was always in charge. Those running the leagues knew their place. They were the junior partners in the relationship.

Now the SFA is barely relevant on Hampden’s sixth floor. When they should be holding the SPFL to account they’ve become the SPFL’s glove puppet instead.

Love to know what Maxwell makes of recent events. In particular the Good Friday voting circus that concluded with gullible Dundee MD John Nelms buying a reconstruction fairy tale.

That allowed the SPFL to pursue the only agenda they had from day one. Getting the leagues called, dishing out prize money and to hell with the collateral damage.

 

That ballot shambles should have been enough to have the SFA flexing some muscle, but they didn’t want to know.

Biggest victims of the vote stitch-up were Hearts and Partick Thistle. No disrespect to Stranraer who were also shafted, but the priority should be looking after full-time clubs whose players play for their living.

My pal Tony Fitzpatrick, the St Mirren chief executive, offered his opinion on the imminent relegation of Hearts saying, “They’d have struggled to get off the bottom and deserve to be relegated.”

Sorry mate, you’re so wrong.

Yeah, the Jambos have been a disgrace and deserved to be bottom of the league when football was stopped. But they still had a decent chance of saving themselves with eight games outstanding.

How can directors of Premiership clubs look Hearts chairman Ann Budge in the eye when the Tynecastle club is facing a £3million hit?

With suggestions Championship clubs will play a curtailed season beginning next January, how do Hearts keep the lights on for seven months without any income?

Only in Scotland would we boot the country’s third biggest club out of the league needlessly.

Mind you, these are the same people who made the lunatic decision to put Rangers in League Two.

Meanwhile, Budge could do without the disingenuous guff she’s hearing.

Hamilton’s Allan Maitland assures us Accies were never in danger, saying, “We weren’t too worried about the team behind us. From that point of view we were a wee bit disappointed the season finished when it did.”

Four points from relegation, 24 points up for grabs and he wasn’t worried? Do us a favour.

Elsewhere, the treatment of Thistle in the Championship beggars belief. Relegated when just two points behind Queen of the South with a game in hand? Are they having a laugh?

With talk of the two lower leagues padlocking the gates for a season, where would that leave Thistle?
Having threatened legal action, Budge is having another go at league reconstruction. A 14-10-10-10 set-up would help a lot of clubs. It would spare Hearts, Thistle and    Stranraer,           see Falkirk promoted and give Brora Rangers and Kelty Hearts a leg up.

In the mythical world of sporting integrity it’s a no-brainer, if only for a couple of seasons.

The Premiership would boast derbies in Glasgow, Edinburgh and the Highlands, with the New Firm derby back where it belongs too.

Are Sky Sports going to object to that? Wouldn’t sponsors, currently running for the hills, buy into it?

Unfortunately, Budge has made a few enemies during this crisis. It’s difficult to see how she gets the numbers to overcome that ludicrous top-flight voting system.

Chances are she’ll be left with the nuclear option of going to the courts. If she takes that route I wish her well.

Excellent article! Did Provan really write that? I'm in shock (pleasantly so!)

[Cigaro]

22 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

 

I take it that's a rhetorical question. 

Of course!

[Malinga the Swinga]

I still can't get over this pish of 'championship clubs are willing to discuss startingan 18 game season early in Sept/Octto help Hearts'. Since when is playing half a season considered a helping gesture. If these clubs can't play a full season, then they are either punted out the league or else they forfeit every match 3-0. 

 

By by the looks of it, ourselves, Dundee and maybe ICT would play each other 4 times and no one else will have a team. What a ****ing shambles of a league we have. Outfits like Dunfermline, oozing deceit and shedding players in a desperate attempt to say afloat, are not only attempting to dictate lengths of seasons for championship but also have managed to grab a seat on the board that sets the plan for all of Scottish football. How on gods earth did that happen.

 

When people like Provan can see the shit that is happening, how on earth can't we get this resolved. I know there is another reconstruction attempt underway but not feeling confident. Appreciate SJ and Selkirk believe something is happening behind scenes, but unless we have it in writing, witnessed by judges, I wouldn't trust these ***** as far as I could throw them.

[The Wrinkly Ninja]

Clearly there has been some error by a ghostwriters secretary.

 

They’ve mixed up the articles written for Gary Mackay and Davie Provan and submitted them with the wrong name!!

 

 

[Mikey1874]

10 minutes ago, wavydavy said:

 

The sad truth is unfortunately that without the old firm games to offer the TV Companies nobody is interested in watching any of the other SPFL teams especially in England.

 

One of the things that sell these games is the toxic atmosphere so without a crowd it is less attractive.

 

Hard one to sell to the other clubs. 

 

Rangers and Celtic get more crowd income. Dubious. 

[Mikey1874]

5 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

I still can't get over this pish of 'championship clubs are willing to discuss startingan 18 game season early in Sept/Octto help Hearts'. Since when is playing half a season considered a helping gesture. If these clubs can't play a full season, then they are either punted out the league or else they forfeit every match 3-0. 

 

By by the looks of it, ourselves, Dundee and maybe ICT would play each other 4 times and no one else will have a team. What a ****ing shambles of a league we have. Outfits like Dunfermline, oozing deceit and shedding players in a desperate attempt to say afloat, are not only attempting to dictate lengths of seasons for championship but also have managed to grab a seat on the board that sets the plan for all of Scottish football. How on gods earth did that happen.

 

When people like Provan can see the shit that is happening, how on earth can't we get this resolved. I know there is another reconstruction attempt underway but not feeling confident. Appreciate SJ and Selkirk believe something is happening behind scenes, but unless we have it in writing, witnessed by judges, I wouldn't trust these ***** as far as I could throw them.

 

Good point. 

 

Starting September you would think you can play 36 games. 

Edited May 24, 2020 by Mikey1874

[Seymour M Hersh]

12 minutes ago, Des Lynam said:

That’s more shocking than anything you’ve uncovered in your career. Well said Davie Provan. 

 

[wavydavy]

13 minutes ago, downunder jambo said:

Excellent article! Did Provan really write that? I'm in shock (pleasantly so!)

 

 

He must have had a fallout with Lawell.

[wavydavy]

3 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said:

 

Hard one to sell to the other clubs. 

 

Rangers and Celtic get more crowd income. Dubious. 

 

I agree but the sad truth is that the other clubs will albeit reluctantly back them beacuse it's all about money.

[Zico]

I’m stunned by that article by Davie Provan!

 

Aidan Smith remains a H1B5 ***** and I’d rather his pseudo-intellectual ramblings weren’t posted here. **** him and **** the H1B5. 

[Malinga the Swinga]

Don't know what is wrong with me today. Yesterday, after listening to 2 minutes of Sportsound I was raging and because of that, felt positive and hopeful of future.

 

Today, had a scout at papers and feel quite down about it. Perhaps I need to listen to Sportsound again this afternoon to get annoyed again, and get my anger up again.

[GinRummy]

That’s the second time Davie Provan has come out against the spfl and in our favour. Charlie Nicholas also wrote a decent piece a couple of weeks ago. 

[johnthomas]

Just now, GinRummy said:

That’s the second time Davie Provan has come out against the spfl and in our favour. Charlie Nicholas also wrote a decent piece a couple of weeks ago. 

It's actually the best summation of the current crisis .

Don't know who actually wrote it but , if it's Provan's own take , well done 

[NaturalOrder74]

Took a few days away from keeping up to date with this stuff, any update on when the reconstruction vote will be yet.? 

[jambos are go!]

Might be wishful thinking but can't help thinking we are in the middle of a clumsy but nonetheless choreographed path to reconstruction. Hope so.

[luckydug]

2 hours ago, Special Officer Doofy said:

As much as I don’t particularly like Falkirk, they were shafted royally. My uncle (from Polmont) is a Falkirk supporter, and I remember this at the time. Another club who were forced to spend millions on a stadium that they simply did not have, and as a result they have suffered badly whilst others have capitalised on their situation. 
 

 

I thought the Falkirk Stadium was council owned.? 

 

[DETTY29]

9 minutes ago, GinRummy said:

That’s the second time Davie Provan has come out against the spfl and in our favour. Charlie Nicholas also wrote a decent piece a couple of weeks ago. 

Wonder if Sky are putting a wee bit pressure on them?

[Malinga the Swinga]

1 minute ago, NaturalOrder74 said:

Took a few days away from keeping up to date with this stuff, any update on when the reconstruction vote will be yet.? 

Presented Monday 2pm. Rejected Monday 1.50pm.

[GinRummy]

Just now, DETTY29 said:

Wonder if Sky are putting a wee bit pressure on them?

Was thinking the same. Didn’t want to come out and say it because it felt like I was adding 2+2 and getting 5 but glad it wasn’t just me. 

[Fozzyonthefence]

16 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said:

 

Hard one to sell to the other clubs. 

 

Rangers and Celtic get more crowd income. Dubious. 

I don’t think it’s anything to do with gate money.  Nearly everyone at OF games will be ST holders and there’s hardly any away fans now.  They’d obviously be affected by loss of hospitality takings though, no idea how much that is worth but it’s probably just because they want 90 minutes of sectarian singing that nobody will have the balls to comment on.

[1874robbo]

55 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

I'm actually in shock after reading Provo's piece. Genuinely in shock.

 

DAVIE PROVAN SFA are barely relevant on Hampden’s sixth floor and are allowing SPFL to run leagues like Sicialian Mafia writes Provan

IN a rare public appearance this week, SFA chief executive Ian Maxwell offered his take on the Covid-19 crisis.

He said: “We hope all the clubs survive and we are absolutely determined to ensure they all survive.”

Ian Maxwell gave his thoughts on the coronavirus crisis

 

Nice soundbite, but it’s clear he doesn’t have a clue where our game is headed right now.

My own hunch is that Maxwell and Neil Doncaster will end up at Holyrood begging for a taxpayer bailout.

Either way, a bit of leadership from the SFA is overdue.

Up until now the governing body has been posted missing.

 

Meanwhile, down the corridor the SPFL has been running the leagues like the Sicilian Mafia.

When Maxwell and running mate Rod Petrie should have been blowing the whistle on Doncaster’s gang, they washed their hands of responsibility.

Those of my vintage will recall different times. Ernie Walker and Jim Farry both had their faults, but they ensured the SFA was always in charge. Those running the leagues knew their place. They were the junior partners in the relationship.

Now the SFA is barely relevant on Hampden’s sixth floor. When they should be holding the SPFL to account they’ve become the SPFL’s glove puppet instead.

Love to know what Maxwell makes of recent events. In particular the Good Friday voting circus that concluded with gullible Dundee MD John Nelms buying a reconstruction fairy tale.

That allowed the SPFL to pursue the only agenda they had from day one. Getting the leagues called, dishing out prize money and to hell with the collateral damage.

 

That ballot shambles should have been enough to have the SFA flexing some muscle, but they didn’t want to know.

Biggest victims of the vote stitch-up were Hearts and Partick Thistle. No disrespect to Stranraer who were also shafted, but the priority should be looking after full-time clubs whose players play for their living.

My pal Tony Fitzpatrick, the St Mirren chief executive, offered his opinion on the imminent relegation of Hearts saying, “They’d have struggled to get off the bottom and deserve to be relegated.”

Sorry mate, you’re so wrong.

Yeah, the Jambos have been a disgrace and deserved to be bottom of the league when football was stopped. But they still had a decent chance of saving themselves with eight games outstanding.

How can directors of Premiership clubs look Hearts chairman Ann Budge in the eye when the Tynecastle club is facing a £3million hit?

With suggestions Championship clubs will play a curtailed season beginning next January, how do Hearts keep the lights on for seven months without any income?

Only in Scotland would we boot the country’s third biggest club out of the league needlessly.

Mind you, these are the same people who made the lunatic decision to put Rangers in League Two.

Meanwhile, Budge could do without the disingenuous guff she’s hearing.

Hamilton’s Allan Maitland assures us Accies were never in danger, saying, “We weren’t too worried about the team behind us. From that point of view we were a wee bit disappointed the season finished when it did.”

Four points from relegation, 24 points up for grabs and he wasn’t worried? Do us a favour.

Elsewhere, the treatment of Thistle in the Championship beggars belief. Relegated when just two points behind Queen of the South with a game in hand? Are they having a laugh?

With talk of the two lower leagues padlocking the gates for a season, where would that leave Thistle?
Having threatened legal action, Budge is having another go at league reconstruction. A 14-10-10-10 set-up would help a lot of clubs. It would spare Hearts, Thistle and    Stranraer,           see Falkirk promoted and give Brora Rangers and Kelty Hearts a leg up.

In the mythical world of sporting integrity it’s a no-brainer, if only for a couple of seasons.

The Premiership would boast derbies in Glasgow, Edinburgh and the Highlands, with the New Firm derby back where it belongs too.

Are Sky Sports going to object to that? Wouldn’t sponsors, currently running for the hills, buy into it?

Unfortunately, Budge has made a few enemies during this crisis. It’s difficult to see how she gets the numbers to overcome that ludicrous top-flight voting system.

Chances are she’ll be left with the nuclear option of going to the courts. If she takes that route I wish her well.

Absolutely spot on from provan in that article.

if only a certain one of our ex players could defend us like that rather than twist the knife!!!

[manaliveits105]

3 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

Presented Monday 2pm. Rejected Monday 1.50pm.

Dundee amended vote Thursday 

[Lord Beni of Gorgie]

Provan fancies himself as an intellectual,  making some relevant points about disingenuous behaviour. 

 

Hamilton were quite happy to sit in the playoffs and St Mirren would have accepted relegation the season previously by their comments. 

[Fozzyonthefence]

3 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

Presented Monday 2pm. Rejected Monday 1.50pm.

Dundee’s vote expected some time in June.

[1874robbo]

Aidan smith pandering to Hearts fans seeing as his paper is going down the shitter!!!

 

[Nookie Bear]

23 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

Don't know what is wrong with me today. Yesterday, after listening to 2 minutes of Sportsound I was raging and because of that, felt positive and hopeful of future.

 

Today, had a scout at papers and feel quite down about it. Perhaps I need to listen to Sportsound again this afternoon to get annoyed again, and get my anger up again.

You need to pace yourself, it’s a marathon not a sprint  

[annushorribilis III]

28 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

I still can't get over this pish of 'championship clubs are willing to discuss startingan 18 game season early in Sept/Octto help Hearts'. Since when is playing half a season considered a helping gesture. If these clubs can't play a full season, then they are either punted out the league or else they forfeit every match 3-0. 

 

By by the looks of it, ourselves, Dundee and maybe ICT would play each other 4 times and no one else will have a team. What a ****ing shambles of a league we have. Outfits like Dunfermline, oozing deceit and shedding players in a desperate attempt to say afloat, are not only attempting to dictate lengths of seasons for championship but also have managed to grab a seat on the board that sets the plan for all of Scottish football. How on gods earth did that happen.

 

When people like Provan can see the shit that is happening, how on earth can't we get this resolved. I know there is another reconstruction attempt underway but not feeling confident. Appreciate SJ and Selkirk believe something is happening behind scenes, but unless we have it in writing, witnessed by judges, I wouldn't trust these ***** as far as I could throw them.

AB should have the troops ready to start the season asap , get a members resolution that TV money will be used to provide testing for the entire league until such times as clubs can admit paying punters. Force the SPFL board into some tough decisions ; start the season - properly & fully - or mothball the clubs. Make that decision now else that's something else to take to court.  Also , how will relegation/promotion play out this season - or are Hearts expected to play 2 seasons in the Championship ? 

 

Looking forward to some answers from Doncaster - in the media or in court. 

[Nookie Bear]

Well said Davie Provan. Pretty much nailed it there. 

[Nookie Bear]

36 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

I still can't get over this pish of 'championship clubs are willing to discuss startingan 18 game season early in Sept/Octto help Hearts'. Since when is playing half a season considered a helping gesture. If these clubs can't play a full season, then they are either punted out the league or else they forfeit every match 3-0. 

 

By by the looks of it, ourselves, Dundee and maybe ICT would play each other 4 times and no one else will have a team. What a ****ing shambles of a league we have. Outfits like Dunfermline, oozing deceit and shedding players in a desperate attempt to say afloat, are not only attempting to dictate lengths of seasons for championship but also have managed to grab a seat on the board that sets the plan for all of Scottish football. How on gods earth did that happen.

 

When people like Provan can see the shit that is happening, how on earth can't we get this resolved. I know there is another reconstruction attempt underway but not feeling confident. Appreciate SJ and Selkirk believe something is happening behind scenes, but unless we have it in writing, witnessed by judges, I wouldn't trust these ***** as far as I could throw them.

I think it’s pretty normal for clubs to shed players like this at the end of the season but I can’t help but feel that it is being done to excess to try and force an annulment of the forthcoming season. 
 

Plus QotS have two fans paying Stephen Dobbies wages and he is being kept on. Farce. 

[Mikey1874]

11 minutes ago, Fozzyonthefence said:

I don’t think it’s anything to do with gate money.  Nearly everyone at OF games will be ST holders and there’s hardly any away fans now.  They’d obviously be affected by loss of hospitality takings though, no idea how much that is worth but it’s probably just because they want 90 minutes of sectarian singing that nobody will have the balls to comment on.

 

Affected by refunds if fans can't go to game. 

 

Maybe the problem is that just one game might be behind closed doors. 

 

But same for everyone else. 

 

Nothing would surprise me though. 

[TyphoonJambo]

5 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said:

Well said Davie Provan. Pretty much nailed it there. 

Things you thought youd never type eh! 

[Whatever]

Aidan smith can away and fling shite at himself.

 

Hibs welt.

[soonbe110]

44 minutes ago, The Wrinkly Ninja said:

Clearly there has been some error by a ghostwriters secretary.

 

They’ve mixed up the articles written for Gary Mackay and Davie Provan and submitted them with the wrong name!!

 

 

Not in a million years could Gary write an article as sensible as that one. 

[a11ank]

1 hour ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

I'm actually in shock after reading Provo's piece. Genuinely in shock.

 

DAVIE PROVAN SFA are barely relevant on Hampden’s sixth floor and are allowing SPFL to run leagues like Sicialian Mafia writes Provan

IN a rare public appearance this week, SFA chief executive Ian Maxwell offered his take on the Covid-19 crisis.

He said: “We hope all the clubs survive and we are absolutely determined to ensure they all survive.”

Ian Maxwell gave his thoughts on the coronavirus crisis

 

Nice soundbite, but it’s clear he doesn’t have a clue where our game is headed right now.

My own hunch is that Maxwell and Neil Doncaster will end up at Holyrood begging for a taxpayer bailout.

Either way, a bit of leadership from the SFA is overdue.

Up until now the governing body has been posted missing.

 

Meanwhile, down the corridor the SPFL has been running the leagues like the Sicilian Mafia.

When Maxwell and running mate Rod Petrie should have been blowing the whistle on Doncaster’s gang, they washed their hands of responsibility.

Those of my vintage will recall different times. Ernie Walker and Jim Farry both had their faults, but they ensured the SFA was always in charge. Those running the leagues knew their place. They were the junior partners in the relationship.

Now the SFA is barely relevant on Hampden’s sixth floor. When they should be holding the SPFL to account they’ve become the SPFL’s glove puppet instead.

Love to know what Maxwell makes of recent events. In particular the Good Friday voting circus that concluded with gullible Dundee MD John Nelms buying a reconstruction fairy tale.

That allowed the SPFL to pursue the only agenda they had from day one. Getting the leagues called, dishing out prize money and to hell with the collateral damage.

 

That ballot shambles should have been enough to have the SFA flexing some muscle, but they didn’t want to know.

Biggest victims of the vote stitch-up were Hearts and Partick Thistle. No disrespect to Stranraer who were also shafted, but the priority should be looking after full-time clubs whose players play for their living.

My pal Tony Fitzpatrick, the St Mirren chief executive, offered his opinion on the imminent relegation of Hearts saying, “They’d have struggled to get off the bottom and deserve to be relegated.”

Sorry mate, you’re so wrong.

Yeah, the Jambos have been a disgrace and deserved to be bottom of the league when football was stopped. But they still had a decent chance of saving themselves with eight games outstanding.

How can directors of Premiership clubs look Hearts chairman Ann Budge in the eye when the Tynecastle club is facing a £3million hit?

With suggestions Championship clubs will play a curtailed season beginning next January, how do Hearts keep the lights on for seven months without any income?

Only in Scotland would we boot the country’s third biggest club out of the league needlessly.

Mind you, these are the same people who made the lunatic decision to put Rangers in League Two.

Meanwhile, Budge could do without the disingenuous guff she’s hearing.

Hamilton’s Allan Maitland assures us Accies were never in danger, saying, “We weren’t too worried about the team behind us. From that point of view we were a wee bit disappointed the season finished when it did.”

Four points from relegation, 24 points up for grabs and he wasn’t worried? Do us a favour.

Elsewhere, the treatment of Thistle in the Championship beggars belief. Relegated when just two points behind Queen of the South with a game in hand? Are they having a laugh?

With talk of the two lower leagues padlocking the gates for a season, where would that leave Thistle?
Having threatened legal action, Budge is having another go at league reconstruction. A 14-10-10-10 set-up would help a lot of clubs. It would spare Hearts, Thistle and    Stranraer,           see Falkirk promoted and give Brora Rangers and Kelty Hearts a leg up.

In the mythical world of sporting integrity it’s a no-brainer, if only for a couple of seasons.

The Premiership would boast derbies in Glasgow, Edinburgh and the Highlands, with the New Firm derby back where it belongs too.

Are Sky Sports going to object to that? Wouldn’t sponsors, currently running for the hills, buy into it?

Unfortunately, Budge has made a few enemies during this crisis. It’s difficult to see how she gets the numbers to overcome that ludicrous top-flight voting system.

Chances are she’ll be left with the nuclear option of going to the courts. If she takes that route I wish her well.

 

I think that's the first decent thing Provan has done for Hearts since refusing to leave Celtic and us getting Colquhoun instead!

Edited May 24, 2020 by a11ank