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9 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said:

That's pretty much human nature, evident in the recent BLM riots.

 

Confirmation bias is human nature, yeah, and can be managed, like it says up there. But non-sequitur is not.

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8 minutes ago, jack D and coke said:

 

Why do they have to make themselves sound so ridiculous. 

It seems to be the nature of things sadly. 

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1 hour ago, jack D and coke said:

There’s a story here for sure but “media management that would make putin blush”

:cornette:

Why do they have to make themselves sound so ridiculous. 

 

It's James Matthews, the Scotch version of Laura K 🙄

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21 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said:

NOTHING TO SEE HERE

 

Again :rofl:

I don’t think anyone has said that, there is definitely something here, only a fool would try deny it. However when the Putin or North Korea comments appear it really does make them lose credibility. 
It’s almost like they’re so desperate to make it sensational they lose their mind. 
Putin gets people killed ffs :lol: 
 

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Just now, jack D and coke said:

I don’t think anyone has said that, there is definitely something here, only a fool would try deny it. However when the Putin or North Korea comments appear it really does make them lose credibility. 
It’s almost like they’re so desperate to make it sensational they lose their mind. 
Putin gets people killed ffs :lol: 
 

 

Is that some novichok in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?

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Teddy Hope: Former SNP equalities campaigner claims party is ‘hub of transphobia in Scotland’

An independent inquiry should be held into the extent of transphobia among SNP members, according to a transgender member who has quit the party, accusing it of being one of the “core hubs of transphobia in Scotland.”

 

 

deary me more votes lost 

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On 15/01/2021 at 21:23, Space Mackerel said:


Aye, polling stations are rammed to the hilt for 15 hours on the day 🤣

I managed to lose a tenner in one, no one had spotted it, 😧 

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15 hours ago, Zlatanable said:

I cannot adequately explain how much I will laugh and enjoy your inevitable moment. 

 

 

Another dull yin for you pal.

 

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OR the 13th January Survation has Yes 45%   NO 43%  Unsure 12% 

and thats before the enquiry lies etc comes to the fore for the Murrells 

squeaky bum time again for the krankies ay !

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56 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said:

OR the 13th January Survation has Yes 45%   NO 43%  Unsure 12% 

and thats before the enquiry lies etc comes to the fore for the Murrells 

squeaky bum time again for the krankies ay !

 

Thing is, the strength of independence movement is, well, independent of whoever the leader of the SNP / First Minister is at the time.

 

Exactly because it's not the cult you like to comfort yourselves by saying it is. But I can see why for the actual tribal nationalists on the forum, this would be a difficult thing to understand.

 

 

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8 hours ago, Zlatanable said:

You are welcome to try watching that space. I wouldn't advise it though, and I live there.

 

I meant the imminent collapse of The SNP, and maybe Scottish separatism with it.

 

Dream on. 😊

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8 hours ago, Zlatanable said:

You are welcome to try watching that space. I wouldn't advise it though, and I live there.

 

I meant the imminent collapse of The SNP, and maybe Scottish separatism with it.

:rofl:

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9 hours ago, Zlatanable said:

You are welcome to try watching that space. I wouldn't advise it though, and I live there.

 

I meant the imminent collapse of The SNP, and maybe Scottish separatism with it.


Nicola leaving would strengthen the chances of Independence imo. 

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9 hours ago, Zlatanable said:

You are welcome to try watching that space. I wouldn't advise it though, and I live there.

 

I meant the imminent collapse of The SNP, and maybe Scottish separatism with it.

Who do you suggest I vote for?

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Kate Forbes is going to deliver "the most important budget in devolution history " this afternoon apparently - she thinks a lot of herself - I would imagine it will be her usual hundred mile an hour talk which will basically be its all the toaries fault its not enough - its no oor fault 

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3 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said:

Kate Forbes is going to deliver "the most important budget in devolution history " this afternoon apparently - she thinks a lot of herself - I would imagine it will be her usual hundred mile an hour talk which will basically be its all the toaries fault its not enough - its no oor fault 

With an election coming up, I think we'll see them finally spending the covid money they've been sitting on.  

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8 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said:

Kate Forbes is going to deliver "the most important budget in devolution history " this afternoon apparently - she thinks a lot of herself - I would imagine it will be her usual hundred mile an hour talk which will basically be its all the toaries fault its not enough - its no oor fault 

 

Scotland doesn't have borrowing powers...yet. 

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12 hours ago, Zlatanable said:

You are welcome to try watching that space. I wouldn't advise it though, and I live there.

 

I meant the imminent collapse of The SNP, and maybe Scottish separatism with it.

Actually lol'd

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7 hours ago, Des Lynam said:


Nicola leaving would strengthen the chances of Independence imo. 

My Mrs thinks the same. 

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1 hour ago, Zlatanable said:

I know that the vision of an independent Scotland you have in your life is important to you, and it is bright, and positive and near perfect, and many other things. 

 

But it is an illusion, and it always has been, and always will be. 

It is impossible, because the world is not like that. 

 

And there are a lot of people like you in Scotland just now, that have sold themselves away on this bet, that a Utopian Scotland exists. 

The sooner you all land back on Earth the better it will be, for everyone.

 

And the SNP will, imo, feel this effect soon.

 

You're off your ****ing head son. 😁

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7 hours ago, Zlatanable said:

I know that the vision of an independent Scotland you have in your life is important to you, and it is bright, and positive and near perfect, and many other things. 

 

But it is an illusion, and it always has been, and always will be. 

It is impossible, because the world is not like that. 

 

And there are a lot of people like you in Scotland just now, that have sold themselves away on this bet, that a Utopian Scotland exists. 

The sooner you all land back on Earth the better it will be, for everyone.

 

And the SNP will, imo, feel this effect soon.

So every other country in world is a  Utopian dream or wishes it be governed by a bunch of anti Scottish buffoons at Westminster?

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7 hours ago, Zlatanable said:

I know that the vision of an independent Scotland you have in your life is important to you, and it is bright, and positive and near perfect, and many other things. 

 

But it is an illusion, and it always has been, and always will be. 

It is impossible, because the world is not like that. 

 

And there are a lot of people like you in Scotland just now, that have sold themselves away on this bet, that a Utopian Scotland exists. 

The sooner you all land back on Earth the better it will be, for everyone.

 

And the SNP will, imo, feel this effect soon.


What is your dream? To be fisted by Westminster on a daily basis?

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manaliveits105

If only Scotland had voted yes in 2014 we could have been in the EU vaccine Q (if they had let us in) and our most vulnerable could have been vaccinated any month soon maybe 

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11 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said:

If only Scotland had voted yes in 2014 we could have been in the EU vaccine Q (if they had let us in) and our most vulnerable could have been vaccinated any month soon maybe 

 

Would probably have closed the borders quicker than 11 months in fairness

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16 minutes ago, Candy said:

I see that Cherry has been popped off the front bench.

 

 

Seen that, criticising the leadership?

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Malinga the Swinga

Read very interesting article on www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2021/01/my-sworn-evidence-on-the-sturgeon-affair/.

Given guys position and reputation, he makes clear allegations against NS, her husband along with several others, that are highly damaging, if they are correct of course. 

This all needs investigated and cleared up prior to elections in May. If true, then Murrell and Co should be in jail, not running a country. 

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1 hour ago, weehammy said:

A victim of the takeover of the SNP by the trans lobby.

 

Yup. They're leaking its due to breaking standing orders etc. But what ones? Not to comment on GRA stuff would be my bet. 

 

The SNP is fast turning into a Sturgeon centric cult - Cult is maybe too emotive, but the party revolves around her, its her being marketed to as the face of the SNP, its very much Sturgeon, Sturgeon, Sturgeon. The problem with that is that they are putting all their media efforts to holding Sturgeon up as 'Saint Nicola', the issue I can see is what happens if the committee finds that she mislead parliament? They are supposed to be a 'broad church' party and this insistence on equalities at all costs I don't think is going to end well. There are conservatives and liberals that vote SNP and believe in Independence and I do not think they are being represented at any level in the current set up. Its essentially a socialist party with any wrong think being aggressively flushed down the loo.

 

I'd saw Stephen Daisley (super Tory reporter) tweeted that the SNP have just made Priti Patels job 1000x easier. If thats not a sign you've ****ed up, I don't know what is. 

 

We're on the precipice of achieving the single goal of the SNPs existence and it could well be blown apart by the leaders own hubris. 

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Tory leader Douglas Ross calls for the May election to be cancelled.

Must be fearing a complete drubbing.

 

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14 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said:

Putin Sturgeon would wheel covid patients to the ballot  boxes if necessary it seems 

 

Westminster - Election during the pandemic

USA - Election during the pandemic

 

WTF should we cancel the Scottish elections?

 

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Sturgeon acting like the Nazi she’s always been and this will catch up with her shortly.

 

Piemaster Blackford will be the next leader. Free donuts for all Aryan Scots.

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1 hour ago, OTT said:

 

Yup. They're leaking its due to breaking standing orders etc. But what ones? Not to comment on GRA stuff would be my bet. 

 

The SNP is fast turning into a Sturgeon centric cult - Cult is maybe too emotive, but the party revolves around her, its her being marketed to as the face of the SNP, its very much Sturgeon, Sturgeon, Sturgeon. The problem with that is that they are putting all their media efforts to holding Sturgeon up as 'Saint Nicola', the issue I can see is what happens if the committee finds that she mislead parliament? They are supposed to be a 'broad church' party and this insistence on equalities at all costs I don't think is going to end well. There are conservatives and liberals that vote SNP and believe in Independence and I do not think they are being represented at any level in the current set up. Its essentially a socialist party with any wrong think being aggressively flushed down the loo.

 

I'd saw Stephen Daisley (super Tory reporter) tweeted that the SNP have just made Priti Patels job 1000x easier. If thats not a sign you've ****ed up, I don't know what is. 

 

We're on the precipice of achieving the single goal of the SNPs existence and it could well be blown apart by the leaders own 

 

Not sure which is the most amusing part of this post?

 

It's either that the SNP is only now turning into a cult, or its the claim that the SNP is a socialist party or it could be that they're about to deliver on independence. :davebp:

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6 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said:

Sturgeon acting like the Nazi she’s always been and this will catch up with her shortly.

 

Piemaster Blackford will be the next leader. Free donuts for all Aryan Scots.

 

Don't think its possible, they (Previous SNP NEC) came up with this ridiculous rule to prohibit MPs standing as MSPs simultaneously, meaning you'd need to find a leader among the ones who will be MSPs when Sturgeon eventually steps down. The next leader (IMO) will be Angus Robertson. The aforementioned rule change was an internal one, and seemed like a not so subtle attempt to clear the decks for Robertson to take the Edinburgh Central seat. Joanna Cherry would have been vying for it too, had said rule change not happened. Based on the existing MSPs, I don't think there is a single one with enough gravitas as a leader/personality to follow on from Sturgeon. Forbes is too young, Yousef is an idiot, Swinney lacks charisma, Somerville has no leadership skills, Russell is stepping down. Keith Brown might be a shout?

 

I really want to see the back of Sturgeon asap though. She's brought a totally needless level of divisiveness among the grassroots supporters. I know, we don't agree on Independence, but the SNP has always been a broad church party, and Sturgeon seems to have pushed out all that don't agree with her, which isn't pleasant to see at all. 

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