Lfhearts Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Its not even that bad compared with Bobby and Doyle's mistakes this season, he deserves to keep his place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 So good with his feet. How did he ever become a goalie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Canada Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 I just watched the highlights and he was even worse than I imagined having read other comments. A lot of basics are missing from his game. Hopefully our days of getting rotten loan players from Man U are over. Mitchell was awful in his second spell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Jeff said: So good with his feet. How did he ever become a goalie? No one else was willing to play there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoked-Glass Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Just watched on sportscene and he's shyte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 11 minutes ago, Captain Canada said: I just watched the highlights and he was even worse than I imagined having read other comments. A lot of basics are missing from his game. Hopefully our days of getting rotten loan players from Man U are over. Mitchell was awful in his second spell. Where is he now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Zlamal for me. I'm just not sure about him either. Manager doesn't fancy Doyle. Is there any one else on the books? Bollocks Perrera it is then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 27 minutes ago, Lfhearts said: Its not even that bad compared with Bobby and Doyle's mistakes this season, he deserves to keep his place. Bobby just gives everyone the jitters. Jp is probably the best we have and tbh I'd take Doyle over Bobby, Bobby is just far too "unorthodox" for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: Bobby just gives everyone the jitters. Jp is probably the best we have and tbh I'd take Doyle over Bobby, Bobby is just far too "unorthodox" for me. Well I’ll tell you that says so much about the recruitment under the previous regime. All three of them amongst the very worst I have seen between the sticks in the sixty plus years in have followed this club. As bad as Kurkis and you have to go back to Brian Wilson to find worse. This has to be addressed in the summer. Personally I’m shocked that nothing was done to rectify it in this window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoked-Glass Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Craig Nelson and tepi were bad. So was enckerman or whatever his name was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 (edited) Just now, Smoked-Glass said: Craig Nelson and tepi were bad. So was enckerman or whatever his name was. But not as bad as any of the three we have just now. Edited February 2, 2020 by Deevers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 28 minutes ago, jr ewing said: No one else was willing to play there. Isn't he 6.4 or 6.5? Stick the big guy in goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS98 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 It’s the first thing Stendel has gotten wrong since he came here IMO. Not addressing the keeper situation could have massive consequences. Optimistic hat on - it could be the difference between our push for top 6 or bottom 6 obscurity. Pessimistic pants on- could be the difference between staying up and going down! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Poor at the first goal in that he was slow to move his feet Poor at the second goal with chocolate hands and even the penalty was not the greatest of attempts to save though you find it difficult to blame a keeper not saving a penalty Zlamal is clearly the better keeper and too much made of this sweeper keeper nonsense You sign a keeper to make saves and the bonus is if he is good with his feet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Drew Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Worst Hearts keeper in many a year. Couldnay save a penny and coulnay catch a cauld. Those first two goals he lost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tian447 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 It's the constant punching the ball back into play. Catch it, and if you can't, make sure it goes towards the sidelines, not back into the box. We were very lucky not to go 4-2 down from a flap, and even with the halfway line effort, he somehow managed to not catch the ball!! Pish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 21 minutes ago, Deevers said: Well I’ll tell you that says so much about the recruitment under the previous regime. All three of them amongst the very worst I have seen between the sticks in the sixty plus years in have followed this club. As bad as Kurkis and you have to go back to Brian Wilson to find worse. This has to be addressed in the summer. Personally I’m shocked that nothing was done to rectify it in this window. We may have tried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 17 minutes ago, Deevers said: But not as bad as any of the three we have just now. Yes there were. Hamilton was worse as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savage Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 His ridiculous save from mays long range effort was embarrassing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: Yes there were. Hamilton was worse as well. All a matter of opinion, however you have to go back a long way before you can think of worse. Hamilton was poor no doubt about that, but not as bad as any of the three imposters vying for the no 1 spot just now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry hippo Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 That was about 5 significant errors in one game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, savage said: His ridiculous save from mays long range effort was embarrassing It is like he is scared of the ball. Flaps at it in case it hits his face or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, savage said: His ridiculous save from mays long range effort was embarrassing Yup. Just catch the fukkin thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, Deevers said: All a matter of opinion, however you have to go back a long way before you can think of worse. Hamilton was poor no doubt about that, but not as bad as any of the three imposters vying for the no 1 spot just now. Hamilton was shite. I'd put him behind all of the current 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Av went right aff him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfhearts Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 (edited) CJGJ you stick to table tennis, Bobby is a mare. Edited February 2, 2020 by Lfhearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, Jambof3tornado said: Hamilton was shite. I'd put him behind all of the current 3. Agreed, however he was at least able to pull off a save or two unlike the present incumbent between the sticks. I can’t think of one useful stop he has made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Lfhearts said: CJGJ you stick to table tennis, Bobby is a mare. As is Pereira I'm afraid and if you are asking me who the better shot stopper is it is Bobby by a good bit That said his competition is of a low level and it hardly makes him top class Both of them are like playing table tennis with the old pimple bats compared to the proper Mark V rubber..always going to struggle One position that we should have gone all out to fill especially if Gordon was not coming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Canada Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 hour ago, jr ewing said: Where is he now? As far as I know he's at Man U just getting over a bad injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 He is like Jack Hamilton with good feet. Seems to panic whenever the ball comes near him, distribution is the only decent aspect of his game. I’d be tempted to change to Zlamal but it’s just not really an improvement. A slightly better shot stopper tbf but not great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 He seems to have a very poor technique when it comes to making saves. Wants to punch everything even shots that should be easily caught. At one point (I think the long range effort) his arms looked like they were crossed and again with nobody within 40 yards he punched it (after a fashion) straight back into the danger zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 He's been poor but he must have something about him. Scouted by Manchester United and has played for Portugal from under 15 level through every age group up to under 21. Sorry, Switzerland up to under 17's before making the switch to Portugal. Must be some awful judges of a goalkeeper's ability out there. Or is it just that all the good judges are on here? * Not a Haiku. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 (edited) 2015– Manchester United 1 (0) 2015–2016 → Rochdale (loan) 6 (0) 2016–2017 → Belenenses (loan) 8 (0) 2018–2019 → Vitória de Setúbal (loan) 9 (0) 2019 → Kortrijk (loan) 0 (0) 2019– → Heart of Midlothian (loan) 18 (0) Sam Luckhurst, chief Manchester United writer for sister title Manchester Evening News gave Edinburgh Live the inside view on the Jambos’ new stopper. “It would be remarkable if Pereira ever plays for United again,” he assessed. “He was handed an obscene four-year contract in 2017 and has been farmed out on loan ever since. “Jose Mourinho, being Portuguese and quite fond of goalies due to his dad's career, was a bit one-eyed with Pereira when, realistically, he was never going to make it at United. "In the same summer he signed that deal, Sergio Romero signed a four-year contract and then the 35-year-old Lee Grant came in last year. That's all without mentioning De Gea, who's agreed a six-year deal. Or Dean Henderson, who recently committed. Pereira is, in the goalkeeping pecking order, sixth-choice. "Pereira has had some forgettable loans and his most fruitful period was arguably at Rochdale, which was nearly four years ago. He has decent ability but has always been a bit hesitant at set-pieces and could get knocked about by the bruisers in Scotland. “If he excels at Hearts he'll have overachieved, seeing as he's not played semi-regular British football for over three-and-a-half years and is bound to be quite ring-rusty. “He's a bubbly bloke, though, and a pleasant lad, so you'd hope he'll settle in confidently.” Hearts 2019/20 fixtures Hearts' worst decisions What will Hearts' sporting director do? Hearts players need to 'grow a set' For more Hearts content, like our Hearts Live Facebook page To receive one WhatsApp message a day with Edinburgh Live's headlines, as well as breaking news alerts, text NEWS to 07899067815. Then add the number to your contacts as 'Edinburgh Live'. For more stories from across the Edinburgh area like our Facebook page , or follow us on Twitter and Instagram . You can also subscribe to our Hearts newsletter: enter your email in the blue box at the top of this article Edited February 2, 2020 by CJGJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelly Terraces Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 The long range effort the guy tries to catch him off his line that he over dramatically punches out the way back into danger. Genuinely WTF??? An utter car crash keeper that can never play for us again. The defence must be shitting it with this geezer behind them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, Nelly Terraces said: The long range effort the guy tries to catch him off his line that he over dramatically punches out the way back into danger. Genuinely WTF??? An utter car crash keeper that can never play for us again. The defence must be shitting it with this geezer behind them. Aye let's get one of our other 2 keepers back in, that'll work wonders for the defender's confidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelly Terraces Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Just now, graygo said: Aye let's get one of our other 2 keepers back in, that'll work wonders for the defender's confidence. Both of them are pish (cheers Levein!), but this bloke is off the scale. Makes Zibi look like Dino Zoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Nelly Terraces said: Both of them are pish (cheers Levein!), but this bloke is off the scale. Makes Zibi look like Dino Zoff. Zlamal until the end of the season then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardboardcutout Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Peraira is not good enough and I’m sure our defence and DS know that! Possibly there’s a condition to his loan such as if he’s fit he plays or he’s recalled? Bobby is scary but I can’t believe he wouldn’t have stopped a good few of our recent concessions! We’ll just have to hope we survive until May. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 18 minutes ago, CJGJ said: 2015– Manchester United 1 (0) 2015–2016 → Rochdale (loan) 6 (0) 2016–2017 → Belenenses (loan) 8 (0) 2018–2019 → Vitória de Setúbal (loan) 9 (0) 2019 → Kortrijk (loan) 0 (0) 2019– → Heart of Midlothian (loan) 18 (0) Sam Luckhurst, chief Manchester United writer for sister title Manchester Evening News gave Edinburgh Live the inside view on the Jambos’ new stopper. “It would be remarkable if Pereira ever plays for United again,” he assessed. “He was handed an obscene four-year contract in 2017 and has been farmed out on loan ever since. “Jose Mourinho, being Portuguese and quite fond of goalies due to his dad's career, was a bit one-eyed with Pereira when, realistically, he was never going to make it at United. "In the same summer he signed that deal, Sergio Romero signed a four-year contract and then the 35-year-old Lee Grant came in last year. That's all without mentioning De Gea, who's agreed a six-year deal. Or Dean Henderson, who recently committed. Pereira is, in the goalkeeping pecking order, sixth-choice. "Pereira has had some forgettable loans and his most fruitful period was arguably at Rochdale, which was nearly four years ago. He has decent ability but has always been a bit hesitant at set-pieces and could get knocked about by the bruisers in Scotland. “If he excels at Hearts he'll have overachieved, seeing as he's not played semi-regular British football for over three-and-a-half years and is bound to be quite ring-rusty. “He's a bubbly bloke, though, and a pleasant lad, so you'd hope he'll settle in confidently.” Hearts 2019/20 fixtures Hearts' worst decisions What will Hearts' sporting director do? Hearts players need to 'grow a set' For more Hearts content, like our Hearts Live Facebook page To receive one WhatsApp message a day with Edinburgh Live's headlines, as well as breaking news alerts, text NEWS to 07899067815. Then add the number to your contacts as 'Edinburgh Live'. For more stories from across the Edinburgh area like our Facebook page , or follow us on Twitter and Instagram . You can also subscribe to our Hearts newsletter: enter your email in the blue box at the top of this article https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/manchester-united-goalkeeper-joel-castro-10429520 For balance. Manchester United goalkeeper Joel Castro Pereira backed to be Reds' next star Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilnunb Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 minute ago, graygo said: https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/manchester-united-goalkeeper-joel-castro-10429520 For balance. Manchester United goalkeeper Joel Castro Pereira backed to be Reds' next star In fairness, that is 4 years ago. Think I'll go with the more recent view and from what we've seen. He's ****ing murder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 10 minutes ago, graygo said: Aye let's get one of our other 2 keepers back in, that'll work wonders for the defender's confidence. Funny enough, Doyle is probably the least "unorthodox" or "flamboyant" out of the 3, but he's like a 5/10 for everything, pretty poor all round but then Bobby would be like a 8/10 for shot stopping but 1/10 in the stable stakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Smith's right boot said: Funny enough, Doyle is probably the least "unorthodox" or "flamboyant" out of the 3, but he's like a 5/10 for everything, pretty poor all round but then Bobby would be like a 8/10 for shot stopping but 1/10 in the stable stakes. There's no doubt we have 3 shite keepers but for me, if we are to continue with the high pressing game then Pereira has to play and we need to hope we score more than the opposition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Morgan Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 2 hours ago, graygo said: There's no doubt we have 3 shite keepers but for me, if we are to continue with the high pressing game then Pereira has to play and we need to hope we score more than the opposition. We also have to hope the opposition hit every shot straight at Pereira for him to have a chance of saving them, even then those that do will be parried back into the danger area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 7 hours ago, graygo said: There's no doubt we have 3 shite keepers but for me, if we are to continue with the high pressing game then Pereira has to play and we need to hope we score more than the opposition. I think Pereira needs dropped otherwise it looks OK to have some poor games in a Stendel team. Bobby is just as bad but Pereira’s confidence is shot so he is going to keep making sillier mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Just thinking about it and Pereira was a very strange signing. He's just about the most un-levein like signing I can think of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 What’s with constantly beating the ball back into the danger zone? Can you imagine what the score would’ve been if that was Celtic we played on Saturday? CL didn’t half leave us with a big bag of shite when it came to goalkeepers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 (edited) From the North Stand at May's long ranger I thought it looked like he just turned round at the right time and it snacked off his napper. Watching the highlights by pushing out the ball that again he could have caught, was worse. Edited February 3, 2020 by DETTY29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WASTREL Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 12 hours ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: But if you scouted him properly you’d see these weaknesses in his game. I can well imagine that we signing him ‘because he’s a Man Utd player’ He was never scouted he was offered to us by a contact in Man Utd ... it followed a call a few days after another Bobby horror show and we were told they had the back up keeper to De Gea who needed game time and could we help. At the time it was win win. Kinda sums up Man Utd as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 21 minutes ago, Disco Ball said: He was never scouted he was offered to us by a contact in Man Utd ... it followed a call a few days after another Bobby horror show and we were told they had the back up keeper to De Gea who needed game time and could we help. At the time it was win win. Kinda sums up Man Utd as well. Blind belief by Levein and co at that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Joel in goal is like having Berra in defence. A liability sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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