Coronavirus Super Thread ( merged )

[Victorian]

I think there should be a proactive bit of contact tracing here.   Publicise the details of the two trains she was on.   Ask people to come forward if they were on them and give them priority access to tests.   

[Konrad von Carstein]

9 minutes ago, SE16 3LN said:

Yep, you need to make up your own mind about whether the pictures of him with the Hitler youth were true or not. Most Nationalists I know accept it but say it was a long time ago. I suppose people change, but that's the risk you run when you have a broad church from the far left and the far right in your party. 

Yep, I've seen the photos, however, the kids were described as visiting Germans in Lincolnshire in the text I read, no mention of HY.

 

Mud sticks especially when the establishment is against you and yes the SNP are a broad church,  has to be given what I expect will happen to the party when independence is achieved. Not sure far left or right were ever part of the party though.

 

 

[Nucky Thompson]

3 minutes ago, fancy a brew said:

Margaret Ferrier has absolutely taken the piss. She should either resign or be sacked. What she's done is worse than Cummings, as he didn't have a positive test and didn't mix with others.

She's singlehandedly made enforcement of the rules a lot harder.

Plus due to contact tracing other MPs will now have to self isolate.

 

I'd quite like to have been a fly on the wall at Bute House when the news came through though. I reckon the reaction would have given Krakatoa a run for it's money.😂

The news broke at teatime. Can't wait until the shit hits the fan tomorrow 

[Konrad von Carstein]

6 minutes ago, theshed said:

What are the case rates? 
 

I was there 3 weeks ago and cases were low 

 

I bet they are still a quarter of what they are in Glasgow 

 

Not sure, her mother in particular has been worried for a while, as she is in the vulnerable category...

[Seymour M Hersh]

1 hour ago, Brian Dundas said:

Where is the evidence for this?

 

Without having a link there have been studies that indicate it has mutated to a weaker strain. Whether this is across the board or just in certain circumstances.

[Bull's-eye]

10 minutes ago, Victorian said:

I think there should be a proactive bit of contact tracing here.   Publicise the details of the two trains she was on.   Ask people to come forward if they were on them and give them priority access to tests.   

 

Aye, that'll learn her....... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

 

You've lost the plot man.

[Horatio Caine]

16 minutes ago, fancy a brew said:

Margaret Ferrier has absolutely taken the piss. She should either resign or be sacked. What she's done is worse than Cummings, as he didn't have a positive test and didn't mix with others.

She's singlehandedly made enforcement of the rules a lot harder.

Plus due to contact tracing other MPs will now have to self isolate.

 

I'd quite like to have been a fly on the wall at Bute House when the news came through though. I reckon the reaction would have given Krakatoa a run for it's money.😂

Well given the roasting NS got at FMQ's today she'll be in no mood for yet another major problem.

[Weakened Offender]

4 hours ago, Ray Gin said:

 

 

 

Appreciate the heads up pal. 

[Seymour M Hersh]

That'll make Krankie extra super cranky with knobs on. 

[SE16 3LN]

4 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

The news broke at teatime. Can't wait until the shit hits the fan tomorrow 

NS will talk about how angry she is, how the horses will have to go without shoes (sic), how she could cry, how nobody feels it more than she does etc. etc. By then MF will have fallen on her swab. Blackford will of course, blame Westminster.

[Beni]

Given that Ferrier is the MP for Hamilton, you'd think she'd have known better.

Twit.

[Bull's-eye]

Getting sick of this Shit tbh.

 

It's time we pushed for English Independence, you lot can't be trusted to enter our great country anymore. 

[Victorian]

5 minutes ago, Bull's-eye said:

 

Aye, that'll learn her....... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

 

You've lost the plot man.

 

Nothing to do with her you crackpot.   To show a bit of proactive concern for other passengers and to show it's being taken very seriously.

[Dawnrazor]

2 minutes ago, Bull's-eye said:

Getting sick of this Shit tbh.

 

It's time we pushed for English Independence, you lot can't be trusted to enter our great country anymore. 

😅😅 I concur!

[The Real Maroonblood]

2 minutes ago, fancy a brew said:

Given that Ferrier is the MP for Hamilton, you'd think she'd have known better.

Twit.

Hamilton has a lot to answer for.

[milky_26]

18 minutes ago, Brian Dundas said:

She’s been sacked by SNP, interesting to see if she resigns and what the police have to say. 

not sacked, had the whip removed so suspended.

 

i bet she only had the scottish nhs app on her phone and not the english one which if she did would aid in contact tracing

[graygo]

Just now, The Real Maroonblood said:

Hamilton has a lot to answer for.

 

Hamilton doesn't do answers, it's questions that it specialises in.

[CavySlaveJambo]

There was an interesting article in The Atlantic today about how the virus spreads.  And not all

is as it seems.  
 

What it is looking like is Sweden have had success without a lockdown simply because of how the virus spreads. 

[The Real Maroonblood]

4 minutes ago, graygo said:

 

Hamilton doesn't do answers, it's questions that it specialises in.

[Don Dan]

1 hour ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

No, I'm talking about natural immunity. Not less vulnetable people fighting the disease. Positive asymptomatic cases are not really cases at all and won't have a viral load to pass on. Do you have any evidence at all to indicate that vulnerable people will be "wiped out"? What if tha virus is, as it appears it is, is weaker than before??

There is no scientific evidence that the virus is weaker. The treatments and some drugs are better. 
Im not an expert in anyway but in my mind natural immunity and herd immunity are very close.

I found This article is helpful in explaining it. 
 

The good thing about these threads is it makes us research and consider various points of views that are out there. We are all on a learning curve and eventually we will find a solution to this pandemic. 

[Don Dan]

43 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

The news broke at teatime. Can't wait until the shit hits the fan tomorrow 

 Sturgeon eating her haggis and chips with deep fried Mars bars as desert when she heard the news. 🤮

Edited October 1, 2020 by Boy Daniel

[Bull's-eye]

11 minutes ago, Victorian said:

 

Nothing to do with her you crackpot.   To show a bit of proactive concern for other passengers and to show it's being taken very seriously.

 

If all the other passengers used the track and trace app required when passing through the barriers entering the platform to catch the rattler then they will have already been informed, deary me. Try and move with the times. 

[King prawn]

13 minutes ago, graygo said:

 

Hamilton doesn't do answers, it's questions that it specialises in.

[Don Dan]

16 minutes ago, fancy a brew said:

Given that Ferrier is the MP for Hamilton, you'd think she'd have known better.

Twit.

 
Im surprise she hasn’t been bombarded by a local resident with advice on masks and FACTS 

 

 

[Shanks said no]

36 minutes ago, Brian Dundas said:

She’s been sacked by SNP, interesting to see if she resigns and what the police have to say. 

 

Where are you getting this nugget from?

 

From BBC

The SNP's Westminster leader Ian Blackford said on Thursday that he had spoken to Ms Ferrier, who accepted that what she had done was wrong.

He said: "Margaret will be referring herself to the parliamentary standards commissioner as well as the police. I am tonight suspending the whip from Margaret."

 

[milky_26]

isn't the fine for not self isolating £10k in england?

[Don Dan]

She will obviously have down loaded the App so I’d imagine a few people will be getting a text message to self isolate and or get a test. 

[graygo]

16 minutes ago, Bull's-eye said:

 

If all the other passengers used the track and trace app required when passing through the barriers entering the platform to catch the rattler then they will have already been informed, deary me. Try and move with the times. 

 

Does the app not only contact you if you have been within a certain distance for a set amount of time? Pretty sure just being on the same train doesn't count.

[Don Dan]

9 minutes ago, milky_26 said:

isn't the fine for not self isolating £10k in england?

Fines for those breaking the rules now in place starting at £1,000 and increasing up to £10,000 for repeat offenders. That’s in England. In Scotland it’s If you fail to comply with any of these self-isolation measures then you may be fined £480 in Scotland under a fixed penalty notice.

 

She could well be done by both! 

[Don Dan]

6 minutes ago, graygo said:

 

Does the app not only contact you if you have been within a certain distance for a set amount of time? Pretty sure just being on the same train doesn't count.

Within 2m for 15 mins or more.

[graygo]

1 minute ago, Boy Daniel said:

Within 2m for 15 mins or more.

 

Aye, so simply passing through the barriers is not enough to see anyone contacted as the poster said.

[SE16 3LN]

14 minutes ago, jonesy said:

Perhaps she'd never heard the FACTS message. Her local constituents should have gone out of their way to remind her.

😀

[joondalupjambo]

Struggling to understand what motive Ferrier had that made her do what she did.   Money?   Does she get extra for turning up in the Common?   Did she need to travel to London to see a partner?  Was she on the drugs?  WTF was she thinking.   I am SNP to the core but she needs to resign immediately.  If she does not and tries to brazen it out the SG becomes a laughing stock.  

[Weakened Offender]

42 minutes ago, Bull's-eye said:

Getting sick of this Shit tbh.

 

It's time we pushed for English Independence, you lot can't be trusted to enter our great country anymore. 

 

Go for it. 😎

[Nucky Thompson]

15 minutes ago, Boy Daniel said:

She will obviously have down loaded the App so I’d imagine a few people will be getting a text message to self isolate and or get a test. 

The Scottish app doesn't work in England and vice versa. She would need to download both apps and turn the Scottish one off when she crossed the border.

That was my moan last week, that both apps don't work together 

Edited October 1, 2020 by Nucky Thompson

[The Internet]

46 minutes ago, Bull's-eye said:

Getting sick of this Shit tbh.

 

It's time we pushed for English Independence, you lot can't be trusted to enter our great country anymore. 

 

Feel free, we only go to England for work requirements and Blackpool anyway. 

[Bull's-eye]

3 minutes ago, Mauricio Pinilla said:

 

Feel free, we only go to England for work requirements and Blackpool anyway. 

 

And to purposefully spread your germs around,  let's not forget that. 

[SE16 3LN]

4 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

The Scottish app doesn't work in England and vice versa. She would need to download both apps and turn the Scottish one off when she crossed the border.

That was my moan last week, that both apps don't work together 

Maybe that was the point she was trying to make.

[graygo]

12 minutes ago, joondalupjambo said:

Struggling to understand what motive Ferrier had that made her do what she did.   Money?   Does she get extra for turning up in the Common?   Did she need to travel to London to see a partner?  Was she on the drugs?  WTF was she thinking.   I am SNP to the core but she needs to resign immediately.  If she does not and tries to brazen it out the SG becomes a laughing stock.  

 

Not sure what it has to do with the SG.

[The Internet]

2 minutes ago, Bull's-eye said:

 

And to purposefully spread your germs around,  let's not forget that. 

 

That falls under work requirements. 

[Jambo no 1]

Ms Ferrier said she took the weekend test after experiencing "mild symptoms", but travelled to London by train at the start of the working week.

She spoke in the coronavirus debate in the House of Commons on Monday, and said she received her positive test result that evening.

"I travelled home by train on Tuesday morning without seeking advice. This was also wrong and I am sorry," she said.

"I have been self-isolating at home ever since."
 

Too bloody late hen. How many have you infected by your stupidity. Actually stupid doesn’t even cover what you have done. Resignation is the only way out for you now. 

[Jambo no 1]

2 minutes ago, graygo said:

 

Not sure what it has to do with the SG.

She left Scotland and returned to Scotland. She and her cohort represent Scotland in Westminster. They are the SNP, any meeting with Blow Hard Mumbles Bojo and it’s Sturgeon who is front and centre. 

[SE16 3LN]

5 minutes ago, graygo said:

 

Not sure what it has to do with the SG.

I'm sure the FM will be saying, that and that she can't be expected to take responsibility of course. 

[joondalupjambo]

8 minutes ago, graygo said:

 

Not sure what it has to do with the SG.

The SG is led by the SNP and they need to show leadership on behalf of the country.  A sacking is only a party decision but Ferrier resigning  shows respect for the SG and the nation.

[Des Lynam]

Is Margaret a murderer?  @ri Alban

[graygo]

17 minutes ago, Jambo no 1 said:

She left Scotland and returned to Scotland. She and her cohort represent Scotland in Westminster. They are the SNP, any meeting with Blow Hard Mumbles Bojo and it’s Sturgeon who is front and centre. 

 

I'm pretty sure she doesn't represent Scotland in Westminster, she represents Rutherglen and Hamilton West. 

 

ps, she needs sacked or to resign.

Edited October 1, 2020 by graygo

[Don Dan]

32 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

The Scottish app doesn't work in England and vice versa. She would need to download both apps and turn the Scottish one off when she crossed the border.

That was my moan last week, that both apps don't work together 

The logical thing for the nations would be to all us the same app however Sturgeon would want to be different from the others particularly England. 

[Montgomery Brewster]

30 minutes ago, graygo said:

 

Not sure what it has to do with the SG.

Correct

 

it will be down to that fat vermin ***** blackford to deal With 

[graygo]

Just now, Montgomery Brewster said:

Correct

 

it will be down to that fat vermin ***** blackford to deal With 

 

Yes, he is the leader of the SNP in Westminster not NS.

[graygo]

7 minutes ago, Boy Daniel said:

The logical thing for the nations would be to all us the same app however Sturgeon would want to be different from the others particularly England. 

I've said it before and realise it's not practical but the logical thing is for the whole world to use the same app or at least one's that are compatible with each other.