Robbofan99 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 OH FFs shes on the telly again. On it more that Rylan now it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Robbofan99 said: OH FFs shes on the telly again. On it more that Rylan now it seems. Watch a different channel. That's free advice by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 hour ago, graygo said: That's nothing to do with masks, it's about pissing on people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 15 minutes ago, graygo said: Useful link for anyone not wearing a covering who might bump into the face mask police. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/face-coverings-when-to-wear-one-and-how-to-make-your-own Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbofan99 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 minute ago, graygo said: Watch a different channel. That's free advice by the way. I was hoping she would get a grilling from Colin Mckay but she got off lightly. Rather pathetic journalism really. Its now the " chief nursing officer" on whos a big heefer...some role model she is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Just now, ri Alban said: Shite advice to give to anyone who is exempt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, graygo said: Watch a different channel. That's free advice by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Robbofan99 said: I was hoping she would get a grilling from Colin Mckay but she got off lightly. Rather pathetic journalism really. Its now the " chief nursing officer" on whos a big heefer...some role model she is. Aye, trying to tell us how important the Louisa Jordan hospitals were, the one's we never used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/919676/Weekly_COVID19_Surveillance_Report_week_38_FINAL_UPDATED.pdf This government report has the following for week 37 (page 22) Residential Dwelling: 80.4% Undetermined: 15.4% Care/Nursing Home: 2.6% Cases by type of residence Table 6: Type of residence of confirmed COVID-19 cases by percentage of total weekly cases So while Care Homes are higher than other institutions, it's nowhere near the level of transmission in normal homes. Edited September 23, 2020 by Ray Gin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartsmad1874 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 If he wants to be left alone from critics and awkward questions in a pandemic, he shouldn't be in the position he's in. Should stick to appearing on Off the Ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB-14 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Leitch loves the sound of his own voice and got a roasting last night. Well deserved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshed Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 17 minutes ago, Robbofan99 said: I was hoping she would get a grilling from Colin Mckay but she got off lightly. Rather pathetic journalism really. Its now the " chief nursing officer" on whos a big heefer...some role model she is. She never gets asked any hard questions The dentist guy got asked a couple last night and he didn’t like it one little bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, theshed said: She never gets asked any hard questions The dentist guy got asked a couple last night and he didn’t like it one little bit Is “the dentist guy” the dentist guy that got a Masters in public health from Harvard University? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 51 minutes ago, hughesie27 said: By institution. Is Households an institution? I doubt it. Therefore the chart means very little without knowing how many cases it accounts for. Households don't feature at all. If they did, all of the things on that pie chart would be such a thin slither that they'd barely be visible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Just been for a game of 5 a side with mates, glad we can still go out and socialise. When you think about it the restrictions aren’t really that bad. They have essentially just shut down everything that they can’t tax. If you are willing to spend a bit of money you can still meet up and play sports, go to pub etc. It’s not all bad 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Салатные палочки Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 It's all about how he answers their questions and counters their argument. Yesterday he didn't do too well. Nicola seems to be getting a bit passive aggressive with interviewers also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Seymour M Hersh said: It would be interesting to know when the deaths were originally infected. It's deaths in all settings. People in care homes will die fairly quickly after being infected I would guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfcbilly Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 hour ago, NANOJAMBO said: It's not that hard to find , if you try - https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3001 Seriously, what a weird attitude. Instead of sounding off, do some basic research. What you really mean is, you're one of those who aren't convinced that Covid is really that big a deal & until someone puts out data (hard hitting ? - whatever that is) that satisfies you, that's the way it'll stay. Seriously...is that the best you can come up with to knock a valid and fairly reasonable question i had with regards to where covid death/infection rates compare with other serious and/or life threatening illnesses?? I've afforded you the courtesy of reading the article from the link you posted. From what I can see, you've posted a link to the effects of covid written by someone affiliated to Oxford University trust. There's no figures, only reference to a study carried out on less than a hundred folk in Beijing who contracted SARS. Infact, it goes on to say the longterm effects to them after contracting SARS was infact minor. It states that study is not comparable to COVID sufferers as the 71 folk studied were predominately under the 45 year age group. I'm struggling to see the point you were trying to get at with regards to me asking where COVID sits in comparison to infections/deaths on other deadly diseases?? For a bit balance, a quick Google search tells me for the years 2015-17, an average of 165000 people died of cancer in the UK per year, so 450 people PER DAY. thats just cancer, heart and circulatory disease deaths are very similar figures at 170,000 a year in the UK. I would like a bit transparency on how many people had underlying health issues before they contracted Covid? Ultimately, the aggressive nature of the COVID virus most likely killed them off but when you consider their immune systems were most probably far weaker than the average healthy citizen its no surprise they sadly passed away. A breakdown on age groups too would probably point to the over 65 age group who are on average, more vulnerable to suffering more when catching most illnesses due to weakening immune systems with age. By publishing official figures, that would save me and you submising things and we could all take a view after having the proper facts. There are more and more scientists and health professionals of the opinion that we shouldve all went about our daily lifes as normal (albeit with a bit more caution on hygiene, distancing and socialising) and shielded or at least offered vulnerable category people the choice to shield rather than having a full scale lockdown. The more this goes on and the more facts and figures are uncovered on this, I am inclined to agree with that view. I'm no more of a scientist or expert on these matters than you are but I'm no idiot either. When a government advisor clearly breaks the rules that he helped set then has the audacity and arrogance to hold his own press conference to dig a bigger hole for his lies instead of owning up for just being a twat, I have a real issue believing anything the people in charge say as being the truth. There's a few interesting interviews with high profile people floating about out there which you might find interesting to counter balance your blind faith. I dont have Facebook but my wife showed me a video from sky news Australia this morning about an official tearing strips off the government there for the way they have crushed the economy over there and he quoted some very interesting figures for deaths on other diseases compared to Covid. Hopefully you can find it or maybe someone on here who may have also watched it could post a link to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 9 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: Households don't feature at all. If they did, all of the things on that pie chart would be such a thin slither that they'd barely be visible. So what are people kicking up a stink over? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Crete said: That was a disgraceful interview on the bbc scotland 9 show last night, Rebecca Curran was rude and aggressive to professor Jason leitch it's not his fault the virus is spreading around the country . Hi Jason. p.s. grow a pair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) I doubt this is a serious OP. It’s quite obvious those in charge of handling the outbreak in Scotland must be put under scrutiny. Edited September 23, 2020 by GinRummy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfcbilly Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, Shanks said: Just been for a game of 5 a side with mates, glad we can still go out and socialise. When you think about it the restrictions aren’t really that bad. They have essentially just shut down everything that they can’t tax. If you are willing to spend a bit of money you can still meet up and play sports, go to pub etc. It’s not all bad 😎 This in a nutshell. You're pretty f*cked if you've lost your job though and don't have a penny to your name. Cant even go visit your family in their homes but its OK....if you've got a good mate who will buy you some bevvy you can head to the boozer and drown your sorrows. At least the treasury coffers are still getting some money in 👍 btw, thats no way a dig at your post, I read that in the context I think you meant...and that is your happy you can still do most things like play football with your mates and have a pint if you choose! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 minute ago, hmfcbilly said: This in a nutshell. You're pretty f*cked if you've lost your job though and don't have a penny to your name. Cant even go visit your family in their homes but its OK....if you've got a good mate who will buy you some bevvy you can head to the boozer and drown your sorrows. At least the treasury coffers are still getting some money in 👍 btw, thats no way a dig at your post, I read that in the context I think you meant...and that is your happy you can still do most things like play football with your mates and have a pint if you choose! Go to a pub and order water - free family time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 He gives a stare which says how dare you question me, before talking about how bad it was in March and how many have died globally. Guaranteed to be running for parliament in the not too distant future. This is his extended audition - as authorised by the FM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 15 minutes ago, Shanks said: Just been for a game of 5 a side with mates, glad we can still go out and socialise. When you think about it the restrictions aren’t really that bad. They have essentially just shut down everything that they can’t tax. If you are willing to spend a bit of money you can still meet up and play sports, go to pub etc. It’s not all bad 😎 A distinct lack of empathy for those who feel the lockdown is a complete and utter nightmare for whatever reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB-14 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) Sorry if this has been covered or posted before. We’re back in a semi lockdown or however you want to word it. What is the next step? Cases will decrease no doubt with the new restrictions then what? Return to normal and they increase again and then we’re back at square one once more. If the whole worlds hopes are based on a vaccine that may never be found then god help us. Edited September 23, 2020 by SteauaNeedarest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Is Crete JiH, Natural Orders AND Jambo 4 eva?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 11 minutes ago, hmfcbilly said: Seriously...is that the best you can come up with to knock a valid and fairly reasonable question i had with regards to where covid death/infection rates compare with other serious and/or life threatening illnesses?? I've afforded you the courtesy of reading the article from the link you posted. From what I can see, you've posted a link to the effects of covid written by someone affiliated to Oxford University trust. There's no figures, only reference to a study carried out on less than a hundred folk in Beijing who contracted SARS. Infact, it goes on to say the longterm effects to them after contracting SARS was infact minor. It states that study is not comparable to COVID sufferers as the 71 folk studied were predominately under the 45 year age group. I'm struggling to see the point you were trying to get at with regards to me asking where COVID sits in comparison to infections/deaths on other deadly diseases?? For a bit balance, a quick Google search tells me for the years 2015-17, an average of 165000 people died of cancer in the UK per year, so 450 people PER DAY. thats just cancer, heart and circulatory disease deaths are very similar figures at 170,000 a year in the UK. I would like a bit transparency on how many people had underlying health issues before they contracted Covid? Ultimately, the aggressive nature of the COVID virus most likely killed them off but when you consider their immune systems were most probably far weaker than the average healthy citizen its no surprise they sadly passed away. A breakdown on age groups too would probably point to the over 65 age group who are on average, more vulnerable to suffering more when catching most illnesses due to weakening immune systems with age. By publishing official figures, that would save me and you submising things and we could all take a view after having the proper facts. There are more and more scientists and health professionals of the opinion that we shouldve all went about our daily lifes as normal (albeit with a bit more caution on hygiene, distancing and socialising) and shielded or at least offered vulnerable category people the choice to shield rather than having a full scale lockdown. The more this goes on and the more facts and figures are uncovered on this, I am inclined to agree with that view. I'm no more of a scientist or expert on these matters than you are but I'm no idiot either. When a government advisor clearly breaks the rules that he helped set then has the audacity and arrogance to hold his own press conference to dig a bigger hole for his lies instead of owning up for just being a twat, I have a real issue believing anything the people in charge say as being the truth. There's a few interesting interviews with high profile people floating about out there which you might find interesting to counter balance your blind faith. I dont have Facebook but my wife showed me a video from sky news Australia this morning about an official tearing strips off the government there for the way they have crushed the economy over there and he quoted some very interesting figures for deaths on other diseases compared to Covid. Hopefully you can find it or maybe someone on here who may have also watched it could post a link to it. I know what video your on about. Its a middle aged suited newsreader and its about 5 mins long...( the video). Ill try locate it as it was a great takedown on the Aussie strategy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, Fun Boaby said: He gives a stare which says how dare you question me, before talking about how bad it was in March and how many have died globally. Guaranteed to be running for parliament in the not too distant future. This is his extended audition - as authorised by the FM He’s died his hair recently. Just saying likes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, SteauaNeedarest said: Sorry if this has been covered or posted before. We’re back in a semi lockdown or however you want to word it. What is the next step? Cases will decrease no doubt with the new restrictions then what? Return to normal and they increase again and then we’re back at square one once more. If the whole worlds hopes are based on a vaccine that may never be found then god help us. They need to address what the actual reasons are and address them properly. It seems to me that the politicians won't come clean with their figures because they don't fit their message. Protect schools and universities and punish everyone else at any cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 11 minutes ago, hmfcbilly said: This in a nutshell. You're pretty f*cked if you've lost your job though and don't have a penny to your name. Cant even go visit your family in their homes but its OK....if you've got a good mate who will buy you some bevvy you can head to the boozer and drown your sorrows. At least the treasury coffers are still getting some money in 👍 btw, thats no way a dig at your post, I read that in the context I think you meant...and that is your happy you can still do most things like play football with your mates and have a pint if you choose! Yea I get what you mean, I am happy I can go for a pint with mates and play football. I also totally understand why I can’t meet up at my parents house with my family - the government can’t tax that. Their policy is really nothing to do with where infection rates happen, they want to try and strike a balance between helping the economy and slowing down the virus - Me sitting in my mates house doesn’t help either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 hour ago, jonesy said: Sorry mate, no idea what you're on about? I'm an English teacher, so not being able to count is my bag, but no idea what relevance it has to this? Where do you teach? Glasgow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfcbilly Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 19 minutes ago, Mauricio Pinilla said: Go to a pub and order water - free family time. Great idea!👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfcbilly Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 14 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: I know what video your on about. Its a middle aged suited newsreader and its about 5 mins long...( the video). Ill try locate it as it was a great takedown on the Aussie strategy. Yeah mate...ive been digging about YouTube as it was bugging me. His name is Alan Jones and he's on sky news Australia. Cant find the exact video or I would've posted a link but if you find it feel free to post a link (I've spent enough time trawling on my phone and my Mrs is doing her nut as its the kids bedtime 😂) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 16 minutes ago, GinRummy said: I doubt this is a serious OP. It’s quite obvious those in charge of handling the outbreak in Scotland must be put under scrutiny. Put under scrutiny fair enough. Some of the posts today demonising both Leitch and Sturgeon go far beyond fair and honest scrutiny. All the UK administrations are trying their best. Instead of demonising people who are trying to help us people should concentrate on following the guidelines otherwise we will have the restrictions in six months time as Boris stated last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoncurMacdonaldMercer Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Robbofan99 said: Stars regarding transmission rates in England no wonder Leitch was quiet last night surprised hospitals are so low - that’s good they must be on top of it - interesting data good posting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 minute ago, luckydug said: Put under scrutiny fair enough. Some of the posts today demonising both Leitch and Sturgeon go far beyond fair and honest scrutiny. All the UK administrations are trying their best. Instead of demonising people who are trying to help us people should concentrate on following the guidelines otherwise we will have the restrictions in six months time as Boris stated last night. I was talking about last nights interview on the nine news show not folk slagging him off on kickback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks said no Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 12 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: Where do you teach? Glasgow? A very interesting question from you. Whilst we await @jonesy responding would you mind expanding on why you are asking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King prawn Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Definitely deserved a thread of its own. Am I doing this right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said: surprised hospitals are so low - that’s good they must be on top of it - interesting data good posting Good apart from all the unanswered questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Crete said: That was a disgraceful interview on the bbc scotland 9 show last night, Rebecca Curran was rude and aggressive to professor Jason leitch it's not his fault the virus is spreading around the country . Absolutely this he is doing a great job anyone who says anything negative about him needs to have good long hard look at themselves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoncurMacdonaldMercer Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 2 hours ago, graygo said: 486 tested positive yesterday, our highest ever daily rate. Seems obvious to me that face coverings are doing nothing to prevent the spread and the rules should be dropped asap. certainly should be considered a branch of the science have been consistent from day 1 that incorrectly worn face masks are potential spreaders - seems the cases have started to rise alongside the rise in use of face masks - we’ve all seen that the majority of face masks are worn incorrectly hopefully this obvious link won’t be overlooked by the rest of the science Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoncurMacdonaldMercer Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, graygo said: Good apart from all the unanswered questions. sorry what questions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, The Frenchman Returns said: A very interesting question from you. Whilst we await @jonesy responding would you mind expanding on why you are asking? Intrigued Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Lord BJ said: Student halls providing a nice spreading ground for COVID Not the only virus that spreads well in halls. ahhh the good old days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King prawn Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Just now, Jambo 4 Ever said: Intrigued Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve123 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Lord BJ said: Student halls providing a nice spreading ground for COVID Not surprising really, they will all be sent homeward soon enough. A colleague of my wifes at works daughter has caught it at Uni in Edinburgh apparently there was a lad coming out his dorm coughing away while laughing and saying he had covid !! ( not how she caught it but crazy) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks said no Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 minute ago, King prawn said: My money is on him asking where he can get a good breakfast in Glasgow for an imaginary date he has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, The Frenchman Returns said: A very interesting question from you. Whilst we await @jonesy responding would you mind expanding on why you are asking? Quite concerning how often he asks where posters live, I've got a vision of a map with wee flags on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King prawn Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Just now, The Frenchman Returns said: My money is on him asking where he can get a good breakfast in Glasgow for an imaginary date he has. I’ve not seen trolling like this since the days of JamboJohn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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