Shooter McGavin Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: Yeah fingers crossed lots of people lose their jobs completely. Unreal comment. That’s not what he said thought was it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: Actually agree with you but ca. Understand people having something to look forward .? Friends dads 70th in September . He lives in a town near Benidorm so we are hoping to go over for it but will not book until last minute as you rightly note other countries may not be as far along with the vaccine as we have . Anyway I fancy a wee highland break in the summer . Loved Aviemore last November I have really strong positive feeling that this will work out ok due to the vaccinations . Here’s hoping 👍 Yes, I'm positive too, believe it or not. One of the good things to come from this is that folk may be able to experience more of Scotland this summer with "staycations". I know, the weather won't be as grand as it would be on the Algarve or the Costa del Sol, but there are so many lovely places to visit in this country and I'm sure that the Scottish tourism industry could do with a wee boost at the moment given how much income it has lost due to the pandemic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 12 minutes ago, redjambo said: That's not how they will be perceived though, especially by the media, and he should have known that. "Just to have a pop at him". No. I don't care about the guy himself, but if he, like anyone else, does something I disagree with then I won't hesitate to mention it. Not everything needs to be viewed as political. So people are going to ignore what he said and that’s his fault. It could not be more clear. The dates were an indicator of how long it will take to get into the position to ease restrictions. It was made crystal clear that conditions would need to be met to achieve these dates. If it isn’t political why are you ignoring what he said ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Shooter McGavin said: That’s not what he said thought was it? That's what would happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costanza Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 9 hours ago, JamesM48 said: The most vulnerable are on their way to being fully vaccinate so the less vulnerable if they caught the virus are less likely to be ill !! I think you may have a touch of the “ cautious “ syndrome ! Given that we've been here before and the expectation that the R number will go above 1 when all schools go back and the number of people in hospitalised with covid is about 50% of people under 60, then yeah, think I'm right to be cautious. See Hospitalisations by Age Group here: https://www.travellingtabby.com/scotland-coronavirus-tracker/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, frankblack said: Hopefully Sunak tells her that her furlough is ending and takes that option away from her. Yes hope so but doubt it now the risd plan is in action. It Will run in tandem to maybe May ? Or June ? 2 minutes ago, Taffin said: Because people need something to work towards, hope and belief that the end is in sight and the government want there to be an end in sight. People spirits are raised down where I am today as they have something to hope for. The idea of June 21st seeing us return to near normal makes sticking with it until then bearable and worth the pain for the reward. If he'd said we might, maybe at some point in Summer, or Autumn, look like a society back to near normal people's spirits would be crushed and a lot would say forget it. I know people who've been sticklers for the rules up to now but started to break them as there was no end date to hold onto. It's better to tell someone to run 10k and when they get there tell them they've got another 5 to go than say 15km off the bat and risk them saying I can't/won't do that. Great analogy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Taffin said: Because people need something to work towards, hope and belief that the end is in sight and the government want there to be an end in sight. People spirits are raised down where I am today as they have something to hope for. The idea of June 21st seeing us return to near normal makes sticking with it until then bearable and worth the pain for the reward. If he'd said we might, maybe at some point in Summer, or Autumn, look like a society back to near normal people's spirits would be crushed and a lot would say forget it. I know people who've been sticklers for the rules up to now but started to break them as there was no end date to hold onto. It's better to tell someone to run 10k and when they get there tell them they've got another 5 to go than say 15km off the bat and risk them saying I can't/won't do that. I'm also very positive that the dates they're aiming for can be achieved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just now, Ray Gin said: That's what would happen. It’s all ready been happening even with furlough . No businesses will open up again. , trade make money employ or re employ again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakened Offender Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 13 hours ago, JamesM48 said: I wouldn't be surprised if you looked like that. 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just now, JamesM48 said: It’s all ready been happening even with furlough . No businesses will open up again. , trade make money employ or re employ again And you want more of that to happen? What a lovely chap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Dazo said: So people are going to ignore what he said and that’s his fault. It could not be more clear. The dates were an indicator of how long it will take to get into the position to ease restrictions. It was made crystal clear that conditions would need to be met to achieve these dates. If it isn’t political why are you ignoring what he said ? What someone says and how those words are perceived are not necessarily the same thing, and that has always to be borne in mind by those who speak. However, we'll see what happens when we get there. Hopefully things will be a lot clearer, and brighter, by that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: Yeah fingers crossed lots of people lose their jobs completely. Unreal comment. The critical thinker said the same recently. Before doing a complete U-turn. Utter idiocy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakened Offender Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 (edited) The UK Health Secretary's interview on the telly this morning has to be one of the most shocking interviews with a politician that I have ever seen. Frightening what these animals are capable of. Edited February 23, 2021 by Weakened Offender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costanza Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Dazo said: Big difference between easing restrictions with and without the most vulnerable groups vaccinated. To compare this easing to last time isn’t the same at all. This will certainly spread among younger people as before but it has shown to have no virtually impact on their lives. Yes there will still be people who will die but there will be need to further restrictions. The vaccine by all early accounts is working amazingly well. That's correct on kids but issue for me is a big bang on schools and the virus spreading in parents/teachers who are likely to be unvaccinated. As per my reply to JamesM48, we need to be careful on hospitalisations, although I guess the Govt roadmap should take this into account for each step. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just now, redjambo said: What someone says and how those words are perceived are not necessarily the same thing, and that has always to be borne in mind by those who speak. However, we'll see what happens when we get there. Hopefully things will be a lot clearer, and brighter, by that point. I think the public need dates and by giving 5 weeks between phases allows for a greater reflection on the impact of the easing of restrictions. I can imagine the uproar if he released the phases without any sort of indicator of time. While I would like things to move faster I think yesterday’s news was as sensible and positive as anything we’ve had yet, from Westminster or the SG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 People need to get their heads out of the clouds on furlough. It's purpose isn't as a permanent state benefit. It's an investment. Mass loss of jobs and employers is very, very bad news. The economy needs to retain what can be retained in order to recover when it can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakened Offender Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Victorian said: People need to get their heads out of the clouds on furlough. It's purpose isn't as a permanent state benefit. It's an investment. Mass loss of jobs and employers is very, very bad news. The economy needs to retain what can be retained in order to recover when it can. Right-wing tragedies aren't capable of thinking like that. They see furlough as a freebie and those on furlough as moochers. They're simpletons, y'ken..😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, Dazo said: I think the public need dates and by giving 5 weeks between phases allows for a greater reflection on the impact of the easing of restrictions. I can imagine the uproar if he released the phases without any sort of indicator of time. While I would like things to move faster I think yesterday’s news was as sensible and positive as anything we’ve had yet, from Westminster or the SG. Fair enough, Dazo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Costanza said: That's correct on kids but issue for me is a big bang on schools and the virus spreading in parents/teachers who are likely to be unvaccinated. As per my reply to JamesM48, we need to be careful on hospitalisations, although I guess the Govt roadmap should take this into account for each step. Absolutely but I guess if the vulnerable are vaccinated the rest of us fall into the category this is something we are going to have to live with. As long as the nhs is coping as it does with the flu each year life goes on. People will be ill and die from this but unfortunately it will just be another tick box like the rest of illness we have to live with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 12 minutes ago, Weakened Offender said: I wouldn't be surprised if you looked like that. 13 minutes ago, Weakened Offender said: I wouldn't be surprised if you looked like that. 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 10 minutes ago, Weakened Offender said: The UK Health Secretary's interview on the telly this morning has to be one of the most shocking interviews with a politician that I have ever seen. Frightening what these animals are capable of. I watched it and didn't hear anything controversial. You would probably have come to your conclusion even with the sound turned down though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 14 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: And you want more of that to happen? What a lovely chap. No don’t be silly ! I want people to not be suffering serious physical and mental health issues due to lockdown . I want it ended . I want people back working in their jobs , going to the gym , socialising , feelin alive whereas you want lockdown and obviously furlough as they go hand in hand U.K. continue until everyone is broken apart from you no not you , your clearly doing fine . Is your real name Jack ? As in “ I’m all right ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakened Offender Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just now, Nucky Thompson said: I watched it and didn't hear anything controversial. You would probably have come to your conclusion even with the sound turned down though With no due respect whatsoever, I'm not in the least surprised that you didn't hear anything controversial. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 11 minutes ago, Victorian said: People need to get their heads out of the clouds on furlough. It's purpose isn't as a permanent state benefit. It's an investment. Mass loss of jobs and employers is very, very bad news. The economy needs to retain what can be retained in order to recover when it can. “ an investment “ which children and grandchildren of today will be paying back for decades ! What a comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks said no Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 EasyJet have pulled all their Edinburgh to Crete flight due to fly March and April, first flight now available 1st May. So that’s holiday number 7 cancelled for us, although I was expecting it and had been waiting on them blinking first. Easy call this morning and refund and credit voucher being processed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 17 minutes ago, Weakened Offender said: The UK Health Secretary's interview on the telly this morning has to be one of the most shocking interviews with a politician that I have ever seen. Frightening what these animals are capable of. So you haven’t seen wee Jeanie Freeemsn interviewed then ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: I watched it and didn't hear anything controversial. You would probably have come to your conclusion even with the sound turned down though Brilliant lol 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakened Offender Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 minute ago, JamesM48 said: No don’t be silly ! I want people to not be suffering serious physical and mental health issues due to lockdown . The problem I have believing that you care about people staying mentally healthy during the pandemic is the vile and heinous posts you've made on this thread regarding vulnerable and unhealthy people dying during the pandemic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, The Frenchman Returns said: EasyJet have pulled all their Edinburgh to Crete flight due to fly March and April, first flight now available 1st May. So that’s holiday number 7 cancelled for us, although I was expecting it and had been waiting on them blinking first. Easy call this morning and refund and credit voucher being processed. Least you got your money back ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Weakened Offender said: The problem I have believing that you care about people staying mentally healthy during the pandemic is the vile and heinous posts you've made on this thread regarding vulnerable and unhealthy people dying during the pandemic. Bollocks ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakened Offender Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: Bollocks ! It's not bollocks at all. You've been abysmal. I actually think you should spend less time worrying about other people's mental health and check in on your own. Edited February 23, 2021 by Weakened Offender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: So you haven’t seen wee Jeanie Freeemsn interviewed then ? I thought you were better than that. What has happened to you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakened Offender Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just now, Brian Dundas said: I don't know if it is just me but you do seem to like a disrespectful slight on women in many of your posts. It isn't just you. He's not the only one though. I guess the Mods are cool with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Brian Dundas said: I don't know if it is just me but you do seem to like a disrespectful slight on women in many of your posts. Oh for god sake playing the misogynist card next ???! I’m far from disrespectful to women lol jezz your getting desperate now . Anything to discredit anyone who has differing views . It’s not my fault that our health secretary and F’M are females . Seriously pathetic . Next !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 13 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: No don’t be silly ! I want people to not be suffering serious physical and mental health issues due to lockdown . I want it ended . I want people back working in their jobs , going to the gym , socialising , feelin alive whereas you want lockdown and obviously furlough as they go hand in hand U.K. continue until everyone is broken apart from you no not you , your clearly doing fine . Is your real name Jack ? As in “ I’m all right ? How is just abruptly ending furlough going to achieve any of that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 13 minutes ago, The Frenchman Returns said: EasyJet have pulled all their Edinburgh to Crete flight due to fly March and April, first flight now available 1st May. So that’s holiday number 7 cancelled for us, although I was expecting it and had been waiting on them blinking first. Easy call this morning and refund and credit voucher being processed. My old man's booked up for September. Hopefully they get to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, Weakened Offender said: It's not bollocks at all. You've been abysmal. I actually think you should spend less time worrying about other people's mental health and check in on your own. My mental health is fine thanks for expressing concerns about it . However I’d look in the mirror and think about yours . Your nasty , vindictive and vicious on this with absolutely zero humour or self awareness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: Oh for god sake playing the misogynist card next ???! I’m far from disrespectful to women lol jezz your getting desperate now . Anything to discredit anyone who has differing views . It’s not my fault that our health secretary and F’M are females . Seriously pathetic . Next !!!! Oh so you think that them being females is a fault? Speaks volumes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: I watched it and didn't hear anything controversial. You would probably have come to your conclusion even with the sound turned down though Was very different to BJ yesterday. As you know the false hope bluster through it is the way BJ normally is imo I didnt think he was yesterday. It was more cautious optimism and reminding people these dates are far from 💯 but its the goal. Itll be based on data and vaccine rollouts etc. He spoke well. It was a different approach from BJ yesterday and it worked well. Maybe not having Cummings mind controlling him helped 😏 Hancock just looked and sounded his spitting image character today and I can see why some people feel it made BJs speech seem more akin to false hope or took a lot of the shine n polish off it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Brian Dundas said: Without bothering to look back there was an STV news presenter as well. It also looks like I am not the only one who notices it, you are not alone either. Lol your absolutely mad ! Crackers . Oh well I suppose I’ll need to list women I admire and respect ? Joanna Cherry ? Germaine Greer ? Julia Hartley Brewer ? All very different types of women . Gasp I even have some female friends plus my mum anc sisters are aunties are female ? Do they count ? I like em Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: Oh so you think that them being females is a fault? Speaks volumes. Oh your totally mis interpreting that post ! Lol clown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Another one handed their arse to them to wear as a hat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just now, JamesM48 said: Oh your totally mis interpreting that post ! Lol clown If you're going to play at being an antagonising prick, making assumptions about people, you can't complain when people throw it back at you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Brian Dundas said: It's not. Furlough needs to be there to help get the economy going as well as looking after individuals welfare. It really does show the position some posters are coming from when they are talking about improving peoples mental health by removing a crucial financial safety net for them. There does have to come a point though where UK support stops for the devolved nations if they diverge in their strategy. When England (UK govt) has everything back open, if Scotland hasn't but has scored equally or better on the metrics that the UK government has used but Scotland wants to continue down another path (which they're perfectly entitled to do) then they need to fund that. You can't have a situation where the UK government say 'x' metrics hit equals opening up and a devolved nations saying 'no thanks, but we'll keep taking the financial support' despite the data showing they also meet that criteria. It's not about being vindictive but unless something quite drastic happens between now and then, if England can get back to work without furlough by whenever that happens, what in the data suggests that Scotland couldn't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 John Swinney , Boris Johnson , Matt Hancock , Jacob Rees Mogg are just a few of the men I can’t be bothered with just to level it out about my supposed hatred / dislike of women . In actual I don’t like the way this is going and I suspect some other underlying prejudice against me masking as concern About my views about women but I don’t play any cards unless it’s poker. I’ll leave it there ! I’m off to work . Have a good day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Not long now until the white knuckle ride of the Scottish plan. I think the SG have got difficulties to solve. Not sure how they'll marry up the statement that Scotland will be broadly in line with the English plan to a tier system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakened Offender Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: Lol your absolutely mad ! Crackers . Oh well I suppose I’ll need to list women I admire and respect ? Joanna Cherry ? Germaine Greer ? Julia Hartley Brewer ? All very different types of women . Gasp I even have some female friends plus my mum anc sisters are aunties are female ? Do they count ? I like em Why do think you need to list (the three) women you respect and admire? What's going on there, I wonder? 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, Brian Dundas said: It is controversial but you could just stop being disrespectful to women when you are posting, it is not that difficult. Anyway, yesterday was a good news day and hopefully today will be too, stop coming on here and spoiling it. Condescending clap trap . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 10 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: Your nasty , vindictive and vicious. No reason to dislike someone imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Victorian said: Not long now until the white knuckle ride of the Scottish plan. I think the SG have got difficulties to solve. Not sure how they'll marry up the statement that Scotland will be broadly in line with the English plan to a tier system. 14.30. The seethe will start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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