JamboMarc Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 If it is true that his contract with Barnsley is now done then hopefully that is a result of positive discussions with Hearts. Would be good to get him announced in the next few days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 11 minutes ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: People defending the length of time making this appointment miss a vital point. Budge herself said they were giving Levein the first 11 games. He won one. Therefore, you would think discussions about possible successors would have taken place BEFORE the axe fell. Apparently not! I would think they will have had discussions prior to punting him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sac Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: People defending the length of time making this appointment miss a vital point. Budge herself said they were giving Levein the first 11 games. He won one. Therefore, you would think discussions about possible successors would have taken place BEFORE the axe fell. Apparently not! Exactly. potential targets should have been identified, maybe even sounded out on the qt in the event of game 11 being his last. Those responsible have been sitting on their hands for the past three seasons. The need for a good sporting director who will make these decisions would be more productive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, JamboMarc said: If it is true that his contract with Barnsley is now done then hopefully that is a result of positive discussions with Hearts. Would be good to get him announced in the next few days! We should know soon. Or move on to someone else, again soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Just now, sac said: Exactly. potential targets should have been identified, maybe even sounded out on the qt in the event of game 11 being his last. Those responsible have been sitting on their hands for the past three seasons. The need for a good sporting director who will make these decisions would be more productive. Fair point Who gets sacked and becomes available surprisingly can change things. Which is Stendel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheetah Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 38 minutes ago, Taffin said: You'd have just sat there going "everything is fine, we're not in any danger" before receiving a german bayonet to the arse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambocub Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 13 minutes ago, August Landmesser said: Well, I can blame them a bit when it's clear that the club are doing something about it. We've sacked the manager responsible for the past couple of years, and are redesigning the coaching structure. Folk should be feeling optimistic about the future, instead of squealing about the price of their ST and complaining that they have to pay in to watch us win cup matches. We've no really sacked him like any other club does though have we .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Shark Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: Why should they feel optimistic precisely? We have an overpaid squad full of shit and no signs of it being revamped. Pretty sure the revamp will start in January when the transfer window opens and then to a bigger degree in the summer. It's going to take time to sort out. Small steps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Just now, jambocub said: We've no really sacked him like any other club does though have we .. Barnsley didn’t sack Stendel either. Hibs haven’t sacked Heckingbottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Paul Shark said: Pretty sure the revamp will start in January when the transfer window opens and then to a bigger degree in the summer. It's going to take time to sort out. Small steps. It certainly can’t really start before then. Money will be the issue though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, davemclaren said: I would think they will have had discussions prior to punting him. Oh I'm sure they had to discuss removing him. Pity they didn't plan for what would come next rather than crossing their fingers that the end of the "injuries" would solve the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Gashauskis9 said: Please let the headline be - “Adamant Ann hopes Stendel delivers...” Possibly the greatest headline on earth. Bravo Sir, Bravo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Landmesser Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, jambocub said: We've no really sacked him like any other club does though have we .. Is he still the manager? No. Is he still the DoF? No. Are we looking for a new manager? Yes. Are we looking for a new Sporting Director? Yes. This stuff is not rocket science folks, unless you're really trying very hard to misunderstand what's happening just now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambocub Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, davemclaren said: Barnsley didn’t sack Stendel either. Hibs haven’t sacked Heckingbottom. Are stendel and heckingbottom still involved in club duties? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 33 minutes ago, August Landmesser said: We've got 75 points left to play for. Calm down. Where did we finish in the league in 2012, and does anyone honestly care? Who do you think we'll beat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, jambocub said: Are stendel and heckingbottom still involved in club duties? They're in a cupboard if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Landmesser Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 1 minute ago, jr ewing said: Who do you think we'll beat? I think we'll beat Airdrie for a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Just now, Geoff Kilpatrick said: Oh I'm sure they had to discuss removing him. Pity they didn't plan for what would come next rather than crossing their fingers that the end of the "injuries" would solve the problem. Not sure at what point but I still think discussions would have been had around potential successors. re his dismissal Ann said, on the day of his dismissal, she had ( stubbornly ) decided to allow him to have the full 11 games to turn things around. Sounded like there may have been dissent in the board on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambojay84 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 55 minutes ago, Ex member of the SaS said: Too old to keep up with all the new buzz words, but I always assumed snowflake was someone who was easily offended and quickly moved on to the next offending comment. ( as snow melts quickly off a dyke ( no not a lesbian ) ) It is what I’ve always thought too, just the age we live in unfortunately, everyone so desperate to be offended by something so they can bash away at their keyboards condemning everything. Snow is racist cos it’s white ff geez peace 🤦♂️ Hope the new manager doesn’t melt under the pressure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysthereinspirit Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Damn, woke up this morning to three additional pages on this thread. Thought maybe a deal had been completed. Silly me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloustonHMFC Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Jambojay84 said: It is what I’ve always thought too, just the age we live in unfortunately, everyone so desperate to be offended by something so they can bash away at their keyboards condemning everything. Snow is racist cos it’s white ff geez peace 🤦♂️ Hope the new manager doesn’t melt under the pressure Snowflake is typically used by right-wing racist gammons and normally when someone calls them out on their bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 1 hour ago, kingantti1874 said: I’m suggesting our board get their ****ing finger out and get a new man on board, I want Stendel, however if he’s unsure or not interested move on to the next target.. assuming we have one.. We need you on the Hearts board of directors. You make it all sound so easy. Try exercising a bit of patience. There is a lot of factors for DS to consider other than just money there is his family to take into account. I'm confident Mrs Budge will show Hearts and Edinburgh to him in the best possible light. He would be mad to refuse on grounds other than money a great club in a great stadium in a great city. What's not to like ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prof Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 25 minutes ago, Last Laff said: It have something to do with being, I don’t know, joint bottom of the league? Ever heard of a new manager improving a team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Taffin said: You'd have just sat there going "everything is fine, we're not in any danger" before receiving a german bayonet to the arse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Taffin said: You'd have just sat there going "everything is fine, we're not in any danger" before receiving a german bayonet to the arse Don't knock it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGoodLaugh Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 40 minutes ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: People defending the length of time making this appointment miss a vital point. Budge herself said they were giving Levein the first 11 games. He won one. Therefore, you would think discussions about possible successors would have taken place BEFORE the axe fell. Apparently not! To be fair - and this is completely the club's fault as well - I imagine it's difficult to have discussions about replacing your manager when the manager is also Director of Football and sits on the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, luckydug said: We need you on the Hearts board of directors. You make it all sound so easy. Try exercising a bit of patience. There is a lot of factors for DS to consider other than just money there is his family to take into account. I'm confident Mrs Budge will show Hearts and Edinburgh to him in the best possible light. He would be mad to refuse on grounds other than money a great club in a great stadium in a great city. What's not to like ? Send them to the German market on Princess Street - job done!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 The timing of the contract cancellation is key here. Would not have been consented to by Stendel unless he had agreed a role elsewhere (or was paid in full). End game time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 If Daniel agrees, it’ll obviously happen either later this week or early next week. I think the club club will be expecting an answer within that time frame. Not long to wait hopefully. 🤞🏻 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Haken said: Yes I would, because I did. Why is before 8am relevant? Is the time of a comment indicative of an individual's level of interest? Thanks for taking an interest, though. Yes. If you aren’t interested in something, you wouldn’t be posting about it first thing in the morning. Just attention seeking, isn’t it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 1 minute ago, AGoodLaugh said: To be fair - and this is completely the club's fault as well - I imagine it's difficult to have discussions about replacing your manager when the manager is also Director of Football and sits on the board. The Hibs, Aberdeen and to an extent the St Mirren games probably stalled the discussions. Then there appears to have been a few wee porky pies about injuries, before they'd finally had enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB GIN Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 1 hour ago, TheBigO said: McCall only got an interview because Ann saught advice from Walter Smith and thats what he came up with. Waste of time. Look I'm not one to criticise usually. A look at my history on here will confirm that. I like Ann, too. Always indebted and shes a good person who saved and has strengthened our club beyond expectations. Huge place in my heart for her. This manager search is ridiculous though. Overcomplicated and scattered. Believe me on that. It doesn't mean we dont end up with the right guy, it just means we're over ponderous and lack a cut to the chase acumen which you need in these situations. Draw up a list of criterion: budget, wage, playing style, targets Draw up a list of desired candidates. Contact them with the criterion. Are you up for it? Yep, come see us. No, thanks anyway. It takes a week. Even including applications. Would rather she gets it right , if that takes time then so be it. There has been many applications we have no idea what the criteria is for this position. We don’t know if any of these are suitable. Let’s just trust the people in the mix on this one. Looking like stendel is the one let’s just see what happens 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Cruyff Turn said: If Daniel agrees, it’ll obviously happen either later this week or early next week. I think the club club will be expecting an answer within that time frame. Not long to wait hopefully. 🤞🏻 Ohhhhh check you first name terms already !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Rudy T said: The Hibs, Aberdeen and to an extent the St Mirren games probably stalled the discussions. Then there appears to have been a few wee porky pies about injuries, before they'd finally had enough. Mrs Budge going on holiday straight after sacking craig levein wasn't one of her better ideas either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, AGoodLaugh said: To be fair - and this is completely the club's fault as well - I imagine it's difficult to have discussions about replacing your manager when the manager is also Director of Football and sits on the board. Not really. How do you think board members get removed and replaced everywhere else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haken Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said: Yes. If you aren’t interested in something, you wouldn’t be posting about it first thing in the morning. Just attention seeking, isn’t it? 😂 8am is not first thing in the morning - not for me, anyway. I'm interested in the appointment, bored by the process. I am an ardent attention seeker. I'm really quite needy. You quoting my posts is providing me with the fuel I require to get me through the day. Edited November 26, 2019 by Haken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam? Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 announced tomorrow ... Stendel and team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Rudy T said: Ohhhhh check you first name terms already !! He's arranged to go for a pint with him already. Likes a pint does OUR (here's hoping) Daniel.☺ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks said no Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 1 minute ago, sam? said: announced tomorrow ... Stendel and team Based on what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, sam? said: announced tomorrow ... Stendel and team Never known you to be wrong. Here's hoping its the start of something good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRY Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 30 minutes ago, August Landmesser said: Is he still the manager? No. Is he still the DoF? No. Are we looking for a new manager? Yes. Are we looking for a new Sporting Director? Yes. This stuff is not rocket science folks, unless you're really trying very hard to misunderstand what's happening just now. Does he still work for Hearts? Yes. So, he's not been sacked, he's been reassigned to another position, but still very much employed until his contract naturally expires Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Has Stendel been linked to any other named clubs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenNaismith Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 It’s decision time for Herr Stendel ⏲️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 17 minutes ago, Prof said: Ever heard of a new manager improving a team Yes, that’s why people are impatient, obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 With his Barnsley contract being cancelled the only logical conclusion to be drawn is that he has agreed another one elsewhere. Let's hope that is with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 16 minutes ago, AGoodLaugh said: To be fair - and this is completely the club's fault as well - I imagine it's difficult to have discussions about replacing your manager when the manager is also Director of Football and sits on the board. Exactly. A recipe for disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 12 minutes ago, Rudy T said: Ohhhhh check you first name terms already !! Me and Stenny are like 🤞🏻that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, StevenNaismith said: It’s decision time for Herr Stendel ⏲️ Mein Stendel. 🙋🏻♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, Last Laff said: Yes, that’s why people are impatient, obviously. Indeed. I think we are all impatient for improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franko1874 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 12 minutes ago, sam? said: announced tomorrow ... Stendel and team Not going to bother asking source, What's your confidence levels? Percentage is the new sauce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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