Vlad Magic Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said: I'm sure the mods will know when and when not to close a thread without your input. What purpose is the thread serving now apart from serving as a platform for further disagreement over a topic that has been discussed to infinite? Why would any Hearts fan want this repeated, nauseating discussion to continue? Edited June 21, 2019 by Vlad Magic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haringshairband Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 We won't get beaten by Dundee Utd. I'm giving Levein another season to improve as the spine of the team looks decent and he has built good teams in the past. The football needs to improve though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Vlad Magic said: What purpose is the thread serving now apart from serving as a platform for further disagreement over a topic that has been discussed to infinite? You could say the same about the Sevco thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hercules Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Finlay James said: Car crash of a thread. Mods, close down, time everyone started supporting the club instead of desperately trying to find reasons not to Car crash of a post. It’s a forum for opinions. Not ostriches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay James Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 28 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said: I'm sure the mods will know when and when not to close a thread without your input. On this occasion, I think it's your input that is the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Finlay James said: On this occasion, I think it's your input that is the problem Are you the forum police? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandylejambo Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, Haringshairband said: We won't get beaten by Dundee Utd. I'm giving Levein another season to improve as the spine of the team looks decent and he has built good teams in the past. The football needs to improve though. We haven't got the spine of a team, we have a defence and possibly the start of a forward line, that's at best as I type Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Magic Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 12 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: You could say the same about the Sevco thread. Sevco thread is at Rangers expense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 10 minutes ago, Finlay James said: On this occasion, I think it's your input that is the problem Is Kickback now a dictatorship with no freedom of speech? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Vlad Magic said: Sevco thread is at Rangers expense. So what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 16 minutes ago, Finlay James said: On this occasion, I think it's your input that is the problem Leave the mods to do their job and if you don't like a thread don't view it or post on it. Simple really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Magic Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Why are some people desperate to keep this thread open? Even bumping it back when it dropped down the order? I am not desperate to see it closed however it’s pretty obvious it’s done it’s course. It serves no purpose now. The club will decide on Levein should circumstances dictate a decision is needed to be made. That’s it. Discussion closed. What else is there to discuss that hasn’t been discussed over and over again? Its been done to death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Jambo Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 19 minutes ago, sandylejambo said: We haven't got the spine of a team, we have a defence and possibly the start of a forward line, that's at best as I type We have three very good centre backs, we have a very solid holding midfielder, our best player plays in the number ten role and we have a very good centre forward. We also have a very good right back. So we do have a spine of team and clearly some additions to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Vlad Magic said: Why are some people desperate to keep this thread open? Even bumping it back when it dropped down the order? I am not desperate to see it closed however it’s pretty obvious it’s done it’s course. It serves no purpose now. The club will decide on Levein should circumstances dictate a decision is needed to be made. That’s it. Discussion closed. What else is there to discuss that hasn’t been discussed over and over again? Its been done to death. You’ve just bumped it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 52 minutes ago, Notts1874 said: Jesus wept ?????? You might as well have typed " i hope we get beat by Dundee Utd so i can boo and demand Levein out" Utter drivel. ?? or you you could’ve just wrote “am a happy clapping Levein fan boy who loves non alcoholic beer and korma, ban the Gorgie boys” ? My point is valid. We will see a Cathro esq reaction to a loss to United in the cup. That was all my point was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Magic Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: You’ve just bumped it up. Not from 2 pages back ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Vlad Magic said: Not from 2 pages back ? Just now then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notts1874 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 18 minutes ago, busby1985 said: ?? or you you could’ve just wrote “am a happy clapping Levein fan boy who loves non alcoholic beer and korma, ban the Gorgie boys” ? My point is valid. We will see a Cathro esq reaction to a loss to United in the cup. That was all my point was. Care to find any post of mine supporting or slagging off Levein ?. I will save you time you won't. People who work for a brewery don't drink non alcoholic beer and korma is only good as a dipping sauce for your naan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 12 minutes ago, Notts1874 said: Care to find any post of mine supporting or slagging off Levein ?. I will save you time you won't. People who work for a brewery don't drink non alcoholic beer and korma is only good as a dipping sauce for your naan. ?? fair play. Although I do enjoy a korma, just no at the football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Notts1874 said: Jesus wept ?????? You might as well have typed " i hope we get beat by Dundee Utd so i can boo and demand Levein out" Utter drivel. He’s got a point. People can blindly believe that things will be different this season, but if we lose to Dundee United then that’ll show whether or not he’s capable of arresting that alarming slide from last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notts1874 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Phil Dunphy said: He’s got a point. People can blindly believe that things will be different this season, but if we lose to Dundee United then that’ll show whether or not he’s capable of arresting that alarming slide from last season. No it won't. It will mean we have lost one game. Nothing more nothing less. PS We will win ? which will prove nothing either. Edited June 21, 2019 by Notts1874 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 39 minutes ago, Vlad Magic said: should circumstances dictate a decision is needed to be made. Personally I think they already do. And unfortunately I can see the club letting it ride with Levein way beyond the point where a change is needed. I accept that it’s the club’s call but that doesn’t mean the club get to handle this in their own way without dissent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Just now, Notts1874 said: No it won't. It will mean we have lost one game. Nothing more nothing less. PS We will win ? We both know it’s not that simple. Last season will remain in the minds of people. The slate just isn’t wiped clean at the start of every season. Things need to improve to get a lot of the fans back behind the manager. His job won’t hinge on whether we beat Dundee United or not. But a good start to the season is vital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, Phil Dunphy said: He’s got a point. People can blindly believe that things will be different this season, but if we lose to Dundee United then that’ll show whether or not he’s capable of arresting that alarming slide from last season. We have a difficult start, Aberdeen away and Celtic away in the first 3 games of the season. Kinda backs up my point re getting off to a good start against United. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Just now, busby1985 said: We have a difficult start, Aberdeen away and Celtic away in the first 3 games of the season. Kinda backs up my point re getting off to a good start against United. We should win the games after United comfortably. I wouldn’t be using them as a yardstick. But if we make a poor start to the league season, albeit with three tough games, then you can bet the knives will be out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, Phil Dunphy said: We should win the games after United comfortably. I wouldn’t be using them as a yardstick. But if we make a poor start to the league season, albeit with three tough games, then you can bet the knives will be out. I think we will win the United game as well. My point is more about the atmosphere that losing to United will create. Folk seem to forget that before taking 5 off Caley in the league cup last year the knives where being sharpened so to speak. Struggled against cove and drew with Raith. Need to start strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, busby1985 said: I think we will win the United game as well. My point is more about the atmosphere that losing to United will create. Folk seem to forget that before taking 5 off Caley in the league cup last year the knives where being sharpened so to speak. Struggled against cove and drew with Raith. Need to start strong. I think we’re more than capable of beating Dundee United, but they won’t be a pushover by any means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Phil Dunphy said: I think we’re more than capable of beating Dundee United, but they won’t be a pushover by any means. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inch Hearts Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Phil Dunphy said: I think we’re more than capable of beating Dundee United, but they won’t be a pushover by any means. Robbie will have them as an unknown quantity probably hard to break down. I bet about two years ago there was the same said about Cathro in the LC shouted down as hilarious as it was only pre season/league cup and no danger he would get sacked. Then he’s punted and the same people call it a master stroke by the club and results under Levein doesn’t matter that season because it was Cathros team and Levein needs 6 transfer windows forgetting Cathro signed Berra and Laff but then credit the same Levein for doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Inch Hearts said: Robbie will have them as an unknown quantity probably hard to break down. I bet about two years ago there was the same said about Cathro in the LC shouted down as hilarious as it was only pre season/league cup and no danger he would get sacked. Then he’s punted and the same people call it a master stroke by the club and results under Levein doesn’t matter that season because it was Cathros team and Levein needs 6 transfer windows forgetting Cathro signed Berra and Laff but then credit the same Levein for doing so. Last season they looked quick on the counter too. McMullan being a key player for him. Who knows whether they’ll have strengthened significantly for a push at the Championship, but we shouldn’t take them lightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notts1874 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Inch Hearts said: Robbie will have them as an unknown quantity probably hard to break down. I bet about two years ago there was the same said about Cathro in the LC shouted down as hilarious as it was only pre season/league cup and no danger he would get sacked. Then he’s punted and the same people call it a master stroke by the club and results under Levein doesn’t matter that season because it was Cathros team and Levein needs 6 transfer windows forgetting Cathro signed Berra and Laff but then credit the same Levein for doing so. Levein signed Berra ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 2 hours ago, busby1985 said: It’s amazing to think that people have somehow forgotten that we finished 6th, and 6th the season previous under this manager. The same people are now saying they aren’t going to be bothered that in our first competitive game of the season we lose to a championship side, at home. Levein will have to start the season in a similar fashion to last season, preferably without having to beat Raith on pens, score 5 against caley to ensure we get out the group stage of the league cup, or the pressure will be huge. Lose against Dundee United, at home, and I think we will see a very similar reaction to the one Cathro got after Dunfermline. If we lose, that will be 9 without a win for Levein. “Must win” is hyperbole but the United game is as close to must win as you get. IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inch Hearts Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Phil Dunphy said: Last season they looked quick on the counter too. McMullan being a key player for him. Who knows whether they’ll have strengthened significantly for a push at the Championship, but we shouldn’t take them lightly. I don’t think Craig will let that happen but also I hope that doesn’t mean it’s the usual cautious approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inch Hearts Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Notts1874 said: Levein signed Berra ? So it was partly Leveins team that finished 6th then (added by Jan signings and big Jon who came in when Cathro left)? Shows that excuse as a myth at least. P.s I know Craig signed Berra and Lafferty, was just the point on it being Cathros team as an excuse mate, there always seems to be one. Even Murrayfield and not being at home for a few games the start of the season to not trying bullshit towards the end of the season, there always seems to be something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notts1874 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Inch Hearts said: So it was partly Leveins team that finished 6th then (added by Jan signings and big Jon who came in when Cathro left)? Shows that excuse as a myth at least. P.s I know Craig signed Berra and Lafferty, was just the point on it being Cathros team as an excuse mate, there always seems to be one. Even Murrayfield and not being at home for a few games the start of the season to not trying bullshit towards the end of the season, there always seems to be something. Ah well onwards and upwards then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who_put_the_ball_in... Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, Inch Hearts said: So it was partly Leveins team that finished 6th then (added by Jan signings and big Jon who came in when Cathro left)? Shows that excuse as a myth at least. P.s I know Craig signed Berra and Lafferty, was just the point on it being Cathros team as an excuse mate, there always seems to be one. Even Murrayfield and not being at home for a few games the start of the season to not trying bullshit towards the end of the season, there always seems to be something. He was director of football therefore involved in every signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inch Hearts Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Notts1874 said: Ah well onwards and upwards then. Im actually quietly confident of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inch Hearts Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Who_put_the_ball_in... said: He was director of football therefore involved in every signing. It’s not how it works on here. Apparently Cathros signings set the club back years and years. Fact. end of. Edited June 21, 2019 by Inch Hearts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Just now, Who_put_the_ball_in... said: He was director of football therefore involved in every signing. And, if he wasn't then he wasn't doing his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, To Be Frank said: You can all you like, we lose at home to Dundee Utd and it will be ugly. Not up there with Cathro v Dunfermline but Levein needs a strong start to the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Nookie Bear said: You can all you like, we lose at home to Dundee Utd and it will be ugly. Not up there with Cathro v Dunfermline but Levein needs a strong start to the season. That was all my point was. Need to start the league cup games strongly, especially with Aberdeen and Celtic first two away games of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inch Hearts Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: You can all you like, we lose at home to Dundee Utd and it will be ugly. Not up there with Cathro v Dunfermline but Levein needs a strong start to the season. Full strength squad and team we will pump them, if we don’t it will be down to injured players needing 6 months to get back to form I read ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, Inch Hearts said: Full strength squad and team we will pump them, if we don’t it will be down to injured players needing 6 months to get back to form I read ? We will take care of Dundee Utd. It's a Robbie Neilson away game ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 13 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: You can all you like, we lose at home to Dundee Utd and it will be ugly. Not up there with Cathro v Dunfermline but Levein needs a strong start to the season. Absolutely correct. Losing to United would just bring the return of all the negativity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay James Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 3 hours ago, We_are_the_Hearts said: Is Kickback now a dictatorship with no freedom of speech? No it's not but read the tread title, it's no longer relevant. Levein is here and will be for the foreseeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Nookie Bear said: You can all you like, we lose at home to Dundee Utd and it will be ugly. Not up there with Cathro v Dunfermline but Levein needs a strong start to the season. Ugly? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 39 minutes ago, To Be Frank said: Ugly? ? Yes. You’re offering nothing except smilies. 8 games without a win is poor and a spirited cup final will not hide the fact that Levein needs a very good start to the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 32 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: Yes. You’re offering nothing except smilies. 8 games without a win is poor and a spirited cup final will not hide the fact that Levein needs a very good start to the season. You think things will turn “ugly” if we lose to Dundee Utd. I think you’re talking out your arse. Felt the smilies made that clear but hopefully the words above clarify things ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, To Be Frank said: You think things will turn “ugly” if we lose to Dundee Utd. I think you’re talking out your arse. Felt the smilies made that clear but hopefully the words above clarify things ?? And why do you think he’s talking out of his arse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 15 minutes ago, To Be Frank said: You think things will turn “ugly” if we lose to Dundee Utd. I think you’re talking out your arse. Felt the smilies made that clear but hopefully the words above clarify things ?? Like i said, it's a Robbie Away Day so no chance we will lose. So we will never know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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