GinRummy Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 First time in my life I'm not looking forward to a trip to Hampden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougal Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Despite the injuries, we have players that on paper are better than the players in the majority of teams in the league, yet they aren't performing to how we expect or hoped they'd be and the reason for that falls squarely on the managers and coaches. You just have to look at Kilmarnock under Steve Clarke to see what can happen to a team when coached correctly by a good manager. We can put a decent team out each week but the tactics and style of play are so poor and make us extremely easy to deal with. Levein and the whole coaching set up need to go asap and a new manager appointed. I've said at several points over the last year that if Levein doesn't go we will be in a relegation battle and depressingly that is now the case. One of the most disappointing things is the fact that the old firm aside the rest of the league are rubbish, unfortunately at the moment less rubbish than we are. I'm certain with a good manager that third place is definitely achievable even from our current position but the longer we stick with Levein the tougher it will be to basically uncoach (don't even think this is a word, but you know what I mean) what has been instilled in them by the current regime and get the new manager's and coaches new tactics on board. It really baffles me that Budge doesn't see the damage Levein is doing to the squad and the fans. If any of us did our job this badly for so long I'm sure we would either be sacked or moved on elsewhere. Levein has now even in my opinion burned his bridges as to returning to Director of Football or even being in charge of the academy. He really needs to be removed completely as his staying will affect the quality of applicants that will apply for the job should it become available soon (fingers crossed). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 6 hours ago, JamboAl said: Ditto Hardly ditto though is it? You’re the one defending a manager who can’t win a ****ing game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidelight Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Des Lynam said: He must be sacked. And Locke should be allowed to do it. That thought gives me fresh hope and enthusiasm for Sunday. AB has no legitimate excuses left. The results, the style of play, does she have a stunt double who attends games and therefore in reality is oblivious? Never in the field of football have I felt such frustration and perhaps anger before attending a national cup semi-final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 I have a feeling we will see a levein gone and announce she will step down in March soon.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave1964 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Hearts are in real danger of being relegated. In the 70’s and 80’s our club was in disarray and the teams were not good enough. Our recent relegation was due to the inexperienced squad. The only other example which we escaped on the last day of the season courtesy of Tommy McLean’s poor management. Craig Levein has the squad to be doing better, don’t let your management style get us relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyes open Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 9 minutes ago, dougal said: Despite the injuries, we have players that on paper are better than the players in the majority of teams in the league, yet they aren't performing to how we expect or hoped they'd be and the reason for that falls squarely on the managers and coaches. You just have to look at Kilmarnock under Steve Clarke to see what can happen to a team when coached correctly by a good manager. We can put a decent team out each week but the tactics and style of play are so poor and make us extremely easy to deal with. Levein and the whole coaching set up need to go asap and a new manager appointed. I've said at several points over the last year that if Levein doesn't go we will be in a relegation battle and depressingly that is now the case. One of the most disappointing things is the fact that the old firm aside the rest of the league are rubbish, unfortunately at the moment less rubbish than we are. I'm certain with a good manager that third place is definitely achievable even from our current position but the longer we stick with Levein the tougher it will be to basically uncoach (don't even think this is a word, but you know what I mean) what has been instilled in them by the current regime and get the new manager's and coaches new tactics on board. It really baffles me that Budge doesn't see the damage Levein is doing to the squad and the fans. If any of us did our job this badly for so long I'm sure we would either be sacked or moved on elsewhere. Levein has now even in my opinion burned his bridges as to returning to Director of Football or even being in charge of the academy. He really needs to be removed completely as his staying will affect the quality of applicants that will apply for the job should it become available soon (fingers crossed). Totally agree with the above ,Good post , By the way this thread started back in 23 february 402 pages ago . Surely in all that time close season and all ,It should be obvious to Ann Budge that this has now become unsustainable and change must come . However she chooses to bury her head in the sand . It,s disgraceful . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 7 hours ago, JamboAl said: BTW it's spelt you're! I did not say we have to accept bottom of the league and we're not there anyway. Players will come back gradually and I have confidence we will improve. At what point will it end? You'll have to ask God. 7 hours ago, JamboAl said: I have not been beating any drum about Levein but it clearly suits you to make that up to suit your cause. I have sympathised with the injury crisis that I think would hamper any manager whether it be CL, Tom, Dick or Harry. Please do not make things up in your sttate of uncontrolled anger. You do one with bells on. BTW it’s state not sttate! It’s ok to change your mind on Levein and admit you’ve been wrong many of us have. But don’t lie about your support of him, there’s over 400 pages on this thread alone most of them have a contribution from you stating your position. Last night wasn’t another typical toothless, clueless showing from his team that’s a 39 games now and we see the same thing over and over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biguche Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 After three games last season we had more points than we do after 11 games this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TweedbankJambo Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 He couldn't give a toss how we're feeling, he really couldn't. What a disgrace you are Mr Levein, get the fu*k away from my beloved football club. NOW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Hope MacPhee will take responsibility soon too. Must have one of the worst records in Hearts senior management history. A complete phoney. https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/austin-macphee-why-ill-never-shirk-responsibility-and-why-i-chose-hearts-over-india-544532 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAndy Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 He has to go, there can't be anyone left wearing a Hearts scarf that believes he is the answer. It's the style of football that is killing us. We have one tactic and one tactic only, set ourselves up to stop the opposition. This is the case both home and away. It's not good enough and its extremely boring. I don't want to keep paying money to watch this garbage. I would rather have Jimmy Calderwood's suicide 4-2-4 football than this crap where we never look like scoring. It's prehistoric football from a dinosaur manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 7 hours ago, j1964m said: Craig Levein: I understand Hearts fans' anger - but my only focus is turning this around Yes but which year is he referring to. Yet again he is just buying himself more time and by her lack of action AB obviously still believes he can turn things around. My respect for her is diminishing daily by allowing this idiot to still be involved with our club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 8 hours ago, JamboAl said: BTW it's spelt you're! I did not say we have to accept bottom of the league and we're not there anyway. Players will come back gradually and I have confidence we will improve. At what point will it end? You'll have to ask God. According to the Godess he’s doing a good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Rudy T said: BTW it’s state not sttate! I speak with a stutter. It’s ok to change your mind on Levein and admit you’ve been wrong many of us have. But don’t lie about your support of him, there’s over 400 pages on this thread alone most of them have a contribution from you stating your position. Are you calling me a liar? Check the 400+ and tell me where, when and in what context I have supported him. It would suit you if I did because it would give you someone else to fire at. Last night wasn’t another typical toothless, clueless showing from his team that’s a 39 games now and we see the same thing over and over. I'll take your word for last night's showing as I wasn't there. Do you mean it was or wasn't a toothless performance? What I will say from what I saw of the goal on TV is that I cannot understand why we there was no one on the goalpost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 4 hours ago, Hearts1975 said: I really don't know anymore He has just came out and said this after the game “We were throwing goals in but we have managed to stop that recently but in attack players don’t want to risk leaving their positions to go ahead of the ball because they have to get back. My job is to fix that.” What the feck does that actually mean and how can players not want to leave their position in the first place.? Its absolutely farcical what the management/coaches are doing to the club at this moment in time. However, obviously they don't care about what is best for HEARTS such is their refusal to move aside and walk away They’re clearly told not to leave their position. He also said that the defenders blamed the strikers for not scoring and they then the defenders for not creating chances, sums up how tactics that irs the defenders jobs to create chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 3 hours ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: This won’t happen but would be incredible mafia revenge story It would be, not a fan of Locke as a coach/manager but he wouldn’t be any worse. He will be unhappy about the situation we are in but no doubt will have a mixed emotions about the manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 2 hours ago, We_are_the_Hearts said: It's sad that a guy who was loved as a player by so many and even respected as a manager first time round is now hated. There are only 2 people to blame for that, himself and Budge. Both need to GTF. Can see fights amongst our own on Sunday due to the sheer frustration at Levein. Surely nobody can defend him now and actually get violent with anyone criticising him? I can see and hear a loud chorus of songs telling him to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Coco said: Hope MacPhee will take responsibility soon too. Must have one of the worst records in Hearts senior management history. A complete phoney. https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/austin-macphee-why-ill-never-shirk-responsibility-and-why-i-chose-hearts-over-india-544532 A team in India is the only club that have ever been interested in him apart from us, quite telling actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts1975 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Pasquale for King said: They’re clearly told not to leave their position. He also said that the defenders blamed the strikers for not scoring and they then the defenders for not creating chances, sums up how tactics that irs the defenders jobs to create chances. I understand the insinuation that the players don’t want to get ahead of the ball in case they can’t get back. I Understand exactly what that means I mean he has had these players for 3 feckin years, leading training, on the training pitch day in, day out. We are going in one direction and the only direction under him you look or try and see what’s going on in his head just to try and make sense of what’s happening and he comes out with this. 3 years in. 3 years to tell us that the players are shiting themselves to run ahead of the ball Whys that Craig ? Are the players shiting themselves to get forward because they might get beat. It isn’t like we are winning so why would they be scared to get ahead of the ball and try and reverse the decline The players are like statues on the park because they have had 3 years of Levein Macphee Fox and Daly talk utter shite to them and confused them to the point the players don’t know what to do Thats on you Craig and your boot room. Your hardly the one to be sorting it out as your the one who created that mindset in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 13 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Surely nobody can defend him now and actually get violent with anyone criticising him? I can see and hear a loud chorus of songs telling him to go. The Ann Budge songs will start soon as well. That could see some get riled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hearts1975 said: I understand the insinuation that the players don’t want to get ahead of the ball in case they can’t get back. I Understand exactly what that means I mean he has had these players for 3 feckin years, leading training, on the training pitch day in, day out. We are going in one direction and the only direction under him you look or try and see what’s going on in his head just to try and make sense of what’s happening and he comes out with this. 3 years in. 3 years to tell us that the players are shiting themselves to run ahead of the ball Whys that Craig ? Are the players shiting themselves to get forward because they might get beat. It isn’t like we are winning so why would they be scared to get ahead of the ball and try and reverse the decline The players are like statues on the park because they have had 3 years of Levein Macphee Fox and Daly talk utter shite to them and confused them to the point the players don’t know what to do Thats on you Craig and your boot room. Your hardly the one to be sorting it out as your the one who created that mindset in the first place. Spot on. It was really noticeable in the LC games how little movement there is in the final third. Watching the same tactics constantly, that rarely ever work, has lead to so many of us becoming disillusioned. We will put up a show on Sunday but get beat nonetheless and he will carry on 🙈. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Since our week of beating Hibs and Rangers we have played St. Mirren, Kilmarnock Rangers, Livi and St. Johnstone. We have accumulated 3 points out of 15 but more interesting to me we have scored one goal in 5 games and that was against the huns. So we cannot muster up ONE goal against the other 4 so called weaker teams. In fact even our attempts on goal in these 4 games are completely embarrassing. That is an utter disgrace for HMFC and is only the tip of the iceberg with many other stats and problems prevailing within the club. I have said this before but no club in the world would keep their manager with this clowns atrocious record. Why the **** should we then? Over to Mrs Budge on this complete mystery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, We_are_the_Hearts said: The Ann Budge songs will start soon as well. That could see some get riled That’s a fair point, she is tarnishing the good reputation she has forged for herself with her continued backing of Levein. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: Hardly ditto though is it? You’re the one defending a manager who can’t win a ****ing game I'm not defending the manager. I'm pointing out most of our best players are missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 17 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Surely nobody can defend him now and actually get violent with anyone criticising him? I can see and hear a loud chorus of songs telling him to go. Yip a tiny away support were chanting it last night. Kudos to them for actually going. Let's hear many more thousands on Sunday letting us hear how we feel about this man and his destroying of our club. Obviously we also want to support the team as well but a good number of them don't seem to give a toss either tbh. Utter shambles 😞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 15 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: A team in India is the only club that have ever been interested in him apart from us, quite telling actually. You might be right on that one although I think the SFA wanted him around the same time as we took him on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturalOrder74 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 I think considering the quality in depth we have right now particularly with the youth players who won’t get a sniff at the first team somehow behind underperforming Maclean, the injuries aren’t responsible for us being this low in the league it’s down to poor team selections. I mean don’t get me wrong I’m a prime example of a keyboard manager but i genuinely don’t think there’s much to getting results in the spl, high tempo against the wee teams get a goal or two and then keep things tight for the rest of the game, we only seem to play like we give a **** when we’re up against the ‘bigger’ teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, Robbo-Jambo said: Since our week of beating Hibs and Rangers we have played St. Mirren, Kilmarnock Rangers, Livi and St. Johnstone. We have accumulated 3 points out of 15 but more interesting to me we have scored one goal in 5 games and that was against the huns. So we cannot muster up ONE goal against the other 4 so called weaker teams. In fact even our attempts on goal in these 4 games are completely embarrassing. That is an utter disgrace for HMFC and is only the tip of the iceberg with many other stats and problems prevailing within the club. I have said this before but no club in the world would keep their manager with this clowns atrocious record. Why the **** should we then? Over to Mrs Budge on this complete mystery. It wasn’t even a win over Aberdeen it was another home draw. I think it’s only Stenhousemuir that we’ve actually defeated at Tynecastle in 8 months, and that was with two goals from a CH moved up front in the last ten minutes as they tired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 9 minutes ago, JamboAl said: I'm not defending the manager. I'm pointing out most of our best players are missing. Well maybe you should stop. It’s given him a get out he doesn’t deserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, JamboAl said: You might be right on that one although I think the SFA wanted him around the same time as we took him on. Not as a coach though, as an administrator. I don’t think he even coaches at NI, it’s more of an tactical analysts job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpyespana Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Levein made the mistake of not getting a goal machine Washington & Uche cannot hit a barn door never mind the net lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: It wasn’t even a win over Aberdeen it was another home draw. I think it’s only Stenhousemuir that we’ve actually defeated at Tynecastle in 8 months, and that was with two goals from a CH moved up front in the last ten minutes as they tired. Sums it up even more then plus we only started playing against Hibs in the last 20 mins once we scored. Chronic stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Not as a coach though, as an administrator. I don’t think he even coaches at NI, it’s more of an tactical analysts job. Caoch/Tactical analyst. Are we splitting hairs here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 32 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: 33 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Surely nobody can defend him now and actually get violent with anyone criticising him? I can see and hear a loud chorus of songs telling him to go. 19 minutes ago, We_are_the_Hearts said: The Ann Budge songs will start soon as well. That could see some get riled Hearts supporters still need to get behind the team on Sunday, now more than ever. Anyone with a grudge should voice it elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 10 minutes ago, Robbo-Jambo said: Yip a tiny away support were chanting it last night. Kudos to them for actually going. Let's hear many more thousands on Sunday letting us hear how we feel about this man and his destroying of our club. Obviously we also want to support the team as well but a good number of them don't seem to give a toss either tbh. Utter shambles 😞 Definitely, all credit to the usual 2k that go to away games, even these diehards have fallen away in the last two away games. Defeat on Sunday must surely be the time for the club to turn the corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 26 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: A team in India is the only club that have ever been interested in him apart from us, quite telling actually. Similarly with Levein. No speculation of any team wanting him after the Scotland disaster. No sign of him helping out as Billy Brown did at Hearts. And zero speculation on any team wanting him as manager or DoF in the last 6 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, grumpyespana said: Levein made the mistake of not getting a goal machine Washington & Uche cannot hit a barn door never mind the net lol. We don’t create any chances for a goalscorer to take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Real problem for the post Levein and MacPhee era will be the length of contracts many of their poor players have. Will not be easy to tidy up their mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazajmbo Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Apologies for spelling and grammar, my dislexia matched with utter rage got the better of me. I have started the below petition, feel free to sign, add comments, share the more the better https://www.change.org/p/heart-of-midlothian-fc-remove-craig-levein-from-heart-of-midlothian-756df532-b813-44c4-9454-e33cecf59582?recruiter=388016152&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=share_petition&utm_term=tap_basic_share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Coco said: Similarly with Levein. No speculation of any team wanting him after the Scotland disaster. No sign of him helping out as Billy Brown did at Hearts. And zero speculation on any team wanting him as manager or DoF in the last 6 seasons. Yeah I wondered why more ex players didn’t help out, as a true legend like Robbo did. I didn't know at that time that CL&GL didn’t get on. If you remember GL wanted Mackay to be reserve team coach but John Murray (CLs pal so not Lockes) brought Neilson in. When we relegated at Partick we were right behind the dug out, Neilson&Crawford were on the touch line discussing stuff that had happened as the game went on, they weren’t really following the game just analysing players and what they did in certain situations. Levein is doing his last job in football. Edited October 31, 2019 by Pasquale for King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 11 minutes ago, JamboAl said: Caoch/Tactical analyst. Are we splitting hairs here? Not at all, McPhee's role as an analyst should be to provide information to the coaching team that then decide how best to utilise that information, he should be nowhere near the training pitch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, dazajmbo said: Apologies for spelling and grammar, my dislexia matched with utter rage got the better of me. I have started the below petition, feel free to sign, add comments, share the more the better https://www.change.org/p/heart-of-midlothian-fc-remove-craig-levein-from-heart-of-midlothian-756df532-b813-44c4-9454-e33cecf59582?recruiter=388016152&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=share_petition&utm_term=tap_basic_share Considering the text you’ve hardly made any mistakes, its good to get it off your chest. Well done and I’ve just read and signed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tntjambo Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 its over he has to go and apologise the job is way to big for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, JamboAl said: Caoch/Tactical analyst. Are we splitting hairs here? Different jobs really, Cathro is probably the same, clearly not capable of improving or motivating players. Edited October 31, 2019 by Pasquale for King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 17 minutes ago, Robbo-Jambo said: Sums it up even more then plus we only started playing against Hibs in the last 20 mins once we scored. Chronic stuff Pretty much and I loved Hickeys goal but there was an element of luck attached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Different jobs really, Cathro is probably the same. What does "probably" mean in context? Either he is or he isn't. Can you explain how these different jobs pan out in practice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Comedian Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 2 hours ago, JamboFife said: If he’s not there I know the local bookies he uses in crossford that will be my next port of call There isn't a bookies in Crossford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Hans Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 18 minutes ago, Spoleto said: Hearts supporters still need to get behind the team on Sunday, now more than ever. Anyone with a grudge should voice it elsewhere. Or at least wait until we go 1-0 down which won't be long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 19 minutes ago, Spoleto said: Hearts supporters still need to get behind the team on Sunday, now more than ever. Anyone with a grudge should voice it elsewhere. It shows how little you know about Hearts supporters, as at the cup final (that you weren’t at) we will sing our hearts out but if it all goes wrong the manager will hear about it. Nothing wrong with that at all. Feeding the troll 🙈🔫. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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