jambonian Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Don't want Walker back. He downed tools as soon as Rangers 2012 wanted him. Was happy to get out of the club, the same as Jason Holt was. In contrast, i'd have taken David Templeton back. He was immense for Hamilton last season and only 29. Templeton was told he was going to Rangers 2012 while he was on the bus back from Liverpool. Dropped off somewhere to head to Ibrox, turns up there only to find Ryan McGowan sitting there who said he wasn't signing for them. Temps never even got to say cheerio to his team-mates. He had unfinished business here at Tynie and would've walked all the way back. And there in lies the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertarian Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, jambonian said: Don't want Walker back. He downed tools as soon as Rangers 2012 wanted him. Was happy to get out of the club, the same as Jason Holt was. In contrast, i'd have taken David Templeton back. He was immense for Hamilton last season and only 29. Templeton was told he was going to Rangers 2012 while he was on the bus back from Liverpool. Dropped off somewhere to head to Ibrox, turns up there only to find Ryan McGowan sitting there who said he wasn't signing for them. Temps never even got to say cheerio to his team-mates. He had unfinished business here at Tynie and would've walked all the way back. And there in lies the difference. According to a friend of mine who is an Accies supporter Hearts made an approach for Temps at the tail end of last season but Templeton knocked us back as he wanted to try his luck in English football. Personally I would have Templeton back in a flash if we could get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonnicky63 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 4 hours ago, indianajones said: Berra is a centre half? Everything in lambos post is correct. Walker should never be allowed near hearts again. Ah ok then so you don’t need pace at the back only up front, makes sense , you should go into coaching you will do very well??,but let’s see if Hearts agree because like others on here I think and hope he returns next season ,we need him there is no one that plays in his position at the moment at Hearts that is better than Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumpson Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 20 hours ago, Olly Lee's left boot said: Would add a bit intelligence and quality. We'd still need pace and drive tho. Not sure he'd add to the team, but maybe if Djoum left he could replace him. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 57 minutes ago, dumpson said: ? Football intelligence...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amadjambo Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 12 hours ago, maroonnicky63 said: Missed by us I can tell you, would love him back and Hearts should be trying to get him back for next season, good player . If Walker came back with the same attitude and application that Ryan Stevenson came back with he’d be quickly forgiven, and could end up a legend. So much ability in the lad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4marsbars Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 23 hours ago, been here before said: No it shouldnt. He wanted away, he got his wish and its went shit since then. **** him. Whats that saying about making your bed? That saying represents an utterly dismal way to live. Ask any fan who saw Robbo, Skacel or Webster, to name but three. I’m not especially religious but I do genuinely believe in forgiveness and redemption. Otherwise we’re all stuffed. People, especially young footballers, make bad choices. Why not go easy on them? I’m proud to be a soft touch. Life’s hard enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff the Mince Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 6 hours ago, maroonnicky63 said: Inconsistent?? Show me a hearts player that isn’t , you don’t need pace to be a player Berra never had pace and he done ok. As for never tried a leg is garbage he was never fit due to his knee issue and from what i here he has gone through the op he should have had when he was at Hearts. Get him back to Hearts he is better than most we have now IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie2004 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Would take Jamie back in a heartbeat- if he could prove his fitness! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 13 hours ago, Lambo85 said: Injury prone with dodgy knees Bad attitude Lazy Never tried a leg for us for the last year he was with us Inconsistant No pace Aye lets get him back on a 3 year contract!! Sad but all true! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Walkers a chocolate kneed, hun loving, two faced wee shite, that shouldn’t even be allowed into Tynecastle ever again, never mind onto the pitch. Could have been a legend, chose to be a prick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 48 minutes ago, Cruyff Turn said: Walkers a chocolate kneed, hun loving, two faced wee shite, that shouldn’t even be allowed into Tynecastle ever again, never mind onto the pitch. Could have been a legend, chose to be a prick. With his talent I agree, this is a cracking post well done. He is a huge talent but doesn't work hard enough. Peterborough was his last chance in England, Rangers seem to have a love affair with him because he scored v them a few times. Let them have him IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster20 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 He's a good penalty taker tbf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB GIN Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Bunch of bitter losers on this thread Take him back in a heartbeat great player and would improve us dramatically that’s all I care about. Would he improve us is a big yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirky Jambo Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 I can understand some negativity towards him but it’s ludicrous to say he’s a rubbish player. Morrison and Mulraney will never be anywhere near his level imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Looked good in the championship season. No thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 I’d take him back as long as he agreed to cal himself Jimmy Walker instead of Jamie, that’s a proper hearts name Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff the Mince Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 1 hour ago, NB GIN said: Bunch of bitter losers on this thread Take him back in a heartbeat great player and would improve us dramatically that’s all I care about. Would he improve us is a big yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amadjambo Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 22 hours ago, maroonnicky63 said: Inconsistent?? Show me a hearts player that isn’t , you don’t need pace to be a player Berra never had pace and he done ok. As for never tried a leg is garbage he was never fit due to his knee issue and from what i here he has gone through the op he should have had when he was at Hearts. Get him back to Hearts he is better than most we have now IMO. Michael Smith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 If you found out your missus was a prostitute and was punting her wares to a guy you hated ..... then you finally got rid of her, and she got in touch a few years later and with her body knackered...... would you take her back to see if she was still good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 21 minutes ago, doctor jambo said: If you found out your missus was a prostitute and was punting her wares to a guy you hated ..... then you finally got rid of her, and she got in touch a few years later and with her body knackered...... would you take her back to see if she was still good? This. Perfect analogy as that's exactly what Jamie Walker is. A wee hoor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego10 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Lot of folk on this thread who've clearly been dumped and never recovered from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambo85 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 On 11/04/2019 at 14:28, maroonnicky63 said: Inconsistent?? Show me a hearts player that isn’t , you don’t need pace to be a player Berra never had pace and he done ok. As for never tried a leg is garbage he was never fit due to his knee issue and from what i here he has gone through the op he should have had when he was at Hearts. Get him back to Hearts he is better than most we have now IMO. Berra is a centre back mate. Doesnt really need to have pace. Did Carles Puyol have loads of pace?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 20 minutes ago, Diego10 said: Lot of folk on this thread who've clearly been dumped and never recovered from it. The key to recovery - if you ever have been dumped, NEVER take her back 1- because she is now sloppy seconds 2- it shows a massive lack of self esteem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmiyaHearts Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 1 hour ago, doctor jambo said: If you found out your missus was a prostitute and was punting her wares to a guy you hated ..... then you finally got rid of her, and she got in touch a few years later and with her body knackered...... would you take her back to see if she was still good? Haha this perfectly sums it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo Drifter Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 On 10/04/2019 at 20:53, Gary Locke said: Heard he could be on his way to Aberdeen at the end of the season, they enquired in January before they got Stewart Abedeen? Seriously? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambonian Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 (edited) 18 hours ago, 4marsbars said: That saying represents an utterly dismal way to live. Ask any fan who saw Robbo, Skacel or Webster, to name but three. I’m not especially religious but I do genuinely believe in forgiveness and redemption. Otherwise we’re all stuffed. People, especially young footballers, make bad choices. Why not go easy on them? I’m proud to be a soft touch. Life’s hard enough. Those guys you mention never downed tools towards the end of their first stints at the club and would be bursting a gut to get back to Hearts, more-so Robbo and Skacel. Throw McPherson in there as well. It's Hearts that would be the soft touch. It would show other players that as soon as another club was interested they don't need to bother anymore and not give a hoot. Coming back with his tail between his legs would make Hearts look a laughing stock. It's almost like.... "is it alright If I leave you in the lurch and crawl back when i'm not seen as good enough for anywhere else please?" No thanks. Edited April 12, 2019 by jambonian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambonian Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Tokyo Drifter said: Abedeen? Seriously? Maybe we should try to get Gary Mackay-Steven on a free in the summer in that case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambocub Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 21 minutes ago, Tokyo Drifter said: Abedeen? Seriously? Aberdeen are interested and us up here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonnicky63 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Lambo85 said: Berra is a centre back mate. Doesnt really need to have pace. Did Carles Puyol have loads of pace?? I know he is a centre back with no pace or distribution and look at the level he reached. You are talking as if every forward needs pace to make in football that is not the case. Jamie showed enough for me that he can play in this league with out being pacy.on his game he is better than anything we have at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonnicky63 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 2 hours ago, amadjambo said: Michael Smith. Now you know that’s not true, very good player I grant you but I have seen him being of form but to be fare on you you have picked one of the most consistent Hearts players but there is no one in a maroon jersey who is constantly top notch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambonian Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, maroonnicky63 said: I know he is a centre back with no pace or distribution and look at the level he reached. You are talking as if every forward needs pace to make in football that is not the case. Jamie showed enough for me that he can play in this league with out being pacy.on his game he is better than anything we have at the moment Doesn't say much for our recruitment policy since he left then. Edited April 12, 2019 by jambonian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonnicky63 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, jambonian said: Doesn't say much for our recruitment policy since he leftthen. Can’t argue with that but we still need to support them . Walker came through the ranks and will always get my support Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
132goals1958 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 43 minutes ago, maroonnicky63 said: I know he is a centre back with no pace or distribution and look at the level he reached. You are talking as if every forward needs pace to make in football that is not the case. Jamie showed enough for me that he can play in this league with out being pacy.on his game he is better than anything we have at the moment I think it is a misconception that Berra doesn,t have any pace. The following opinion is from Mick McCarthy and I for one are looking forward to him being his old self next season after a well earned break. I doubt if there are many dedicated and consummate. pros around. "Berra is the best defender in the league, for me, without a doubt," McCarthy told BBC Radio Suffolk. "He's just outstanding, he's big and powerful and wins it in the air, he's quick, he blocks things and is good at defending corners." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busby8 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 (edited) I'd have him back. Plenty of players leave clubs for greener pastures, then return when it's maybe not worked out for them elsewhere. Was there a worse way of leaving your club than the way Andy Webster left Hearts ? Yet he came back and didn't do too badly. Big Dave McPherson was also away back to the weeg the first time Rangers came sniffing around for him to return. He also came back, ...........and played in the 98 final. Both left to chase the money, which was no more than Jamie Walker did......... and as many more will do in years to come. Walker is more of a prodigal son though than either of those examples, having come through the ranks at Tynecastle. I don't think we'd get the daft laddie back. I think we would get a player with a more mature outlook, and one who would be far more committed and responsible. When we are so sadly lacking in creativity, re-signing Walker would certainly be a chance worth taking. Edited April 12, 2019 by Busby8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Busby8 said: I'd have him back. Plenty of players leave clubs for greener pastures, then return when it's maybe not worked out for them elsewhere. Was there a worse way of leaving your club than the way Andy Webster left Hearts ? Yet he came back and didn't do too badly. Big Dave McPherson was also away back to the weeg the first time Rangers came sniffing around for him to return. He also came back, ...........and played in the 98 final. Both left to chase the money, which was no more than Jamie Walker did......... and as many more will do in years to come. Walker is more of a prodigal son than either of those examples. I don't think we'd get the daft laddie back. I think we would get a player with a more mature outlook, and one who would be far more committed and responsible. When we are so sadly lacking in creativity, re-signing Walker would certainly be a chance worth taking. Don't doubt what you say but the only drawback now would be that he is another player who lacks any real pace and is very injury prone. We have enough injuries without bringing back someone who spent large chunks of his career out injured. Some players are just unlucky or possibly their mindset is not right and I think he is both. Nothing against the guy he was a good player for us when fully fit and had his head in the right place but that didn't seem to happen often enough from what I remember of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busby8 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 1 minute ago, wavydavy said: Don't doubt what you say but the only drawback now would be that he is another player who lacks any real pace and is very injury prone. We have enough injuries without bringing back someone who spent large chunks of his career out injured. Some players are just unlucky or possibly their mindset is not right and I think he is both. Nothing against the guy he was a good player for us when fully fit and had his head in the right place but that didn't seem to happen often enough from what I remember of him. Fair doos,..... there's his injuries to consider as well. I was thinking more of a fully fit Jamie Walker, but with a more mature and responsible attitude......... and having been what he's been through the last few years, perhaps a wee bit more humility and respect for the club that nurtured and developed him. If we get that version of Walker, then he's surely worth a punt. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 (edited) 41 minutes ago, 132goals1958 said: I think it is a misconception that Berra doesn,t have any pace. The following opinion is from Mick McCarthy and I for one are looking forward to him being his old self next season after a well earned break. I doubt if there are many dedicated and consummate. pros around. "Berra is the best defender in the league, for me, without a doubt," McCarthy told BBC Radio Suffolk. "He's just outstanding, he's big and powerful and wins it in the air, he's quick, he blocks things and is good at defending corners." He's 34 now and not that long back from a very bad injury which has undoubtedly restricted him this season. I don't know when that piece you quoted from McCarthy was but I think he has slowed down a bit since he was at Ipswich. Undoubtedly a great defender but also a very poor passer of the ball hence the reason why if we play a back three he is best in the middle where he can concentrate on defending and nothing much else. Edited April 12, 2019 by wavydavy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 38 minutes ago, 132goals1958 said: I think it is a misconception that Berra doesn,t have any pace. The following opinion is from Mick McCarthy and I for one are looking forward to him being his old self next season after a well earned break. I doubt if there are many dedicated and consummate. pros around. "Berra is the best defender in the league, for me, without a doubt," McCarthy told BBC Radio Suffolk. "He's just outstanding, he's big and powerful and wins it in the air, he's quick, he blocks things and is good at defending corners." Spot on. This pish about the skipper being slow is nonsense. There are weaknesses in his game but being slow isn't one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Just now, Busby8 said: Fair doos,..... there's his injuries to consider as well. I was thinking more of a fully fit Jamie Walker, but with a more mature and responsible attitude......... and having been what he's been through the last few years, perhaps a wee bit more humility and respect for the club that nurtured and developed him. If we get that version of Walker, then he's surely worth a punt. . Possibly although a lot would depend on what sort of money he would be looking for I would imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busby8 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Just now, wavydavy said: Possibly although a lot would depend on what sort of money he would be looking for I would imagine. I think we could pay him more than any other interested club in Scotland. And let's face it, Scotland or League 2 in England are maybe just about his only realistic options right now. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Busby8 said: I think we could pay him more than any other interested club in Scotland. And let's face it, Scotland or League 2 in England are maybe just about his only realistic options right now. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBTHEBRUCE Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 I'd love to see Jamie Walker and Sam Nicholson back in the team. Both better than what we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Locke Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 3 hours ago, Tokyo Drifter said: Abedeen? Seriously? Heard from someone at Falkirk where Jordan McGhee is that they were in talks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMJ_1874 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 4 hours ago, doctor jambo said: If you found out your missus was a prostitute and was punting her wares to a guy you hated ..... then you finally got rid of her, and she got in touch a few years later and with her body knackered...... would you take her back to see if she was still good? ??? that’s some analogy DJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four faces Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 4 hours ago, doctor jambo said: If you found out your missus was a prostitute and was punting her wares to a guy you hated ..... then you finally got rid of her, and she got in touch a few years later and with her body knackered...... would you take her back to see if she was still good? Surely this should be in the shed?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBTHEBRUCE Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 We've taken risks on worse... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonnicky63 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 16 hours ago, 132goals1958 said: I think it is a misconception that Berra doesn,t have any pace. The following opinion is from Mick McCarthy and I for one are looking forward to him being his old self next season after a well earned break. I doubt if there are many dedicated and consummate. pros around. "Berra is the best defender in the league, for me, without a doubt," McCarthy told BBC Radio Suffolk. "He's just outstanding, he's big and powerful and wins it in the air, he's quick, he blocks things and is good at defending corners." Managers will praise players to give them confidence etc just listen to Craig when he talks about our players. Berra on his game is as good if not better than any defender in Scotland. His distribution is very poor, but he is very good defender Soutar for me is the better player because he seems to have it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert McFly Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Some humble pie going to eaten from some on this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
campbell Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Albert McFly said: Some humble pie going to eaten from some on this thread Look at me type post, care to elaborate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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