U.S. Politics megathread (merged)

[JFK-1]

1 hour ago, Maple Leaf said:

I think it's apocryphal.  It was common in pre-Chunnel days for the weather forecast to say "Fog in the channel.  The continent is cut off", meaning that the channel ferries couldn't run.

 

That aside I do think we raised on the island have always seen ourselves as somehow apart from Europe, beyond the physical boundary of the channel.

 

Not quite Europeans like the continentals are Europeans, a breed unto ourselves. While steadfastly declining to learn their languages. 

 

[ri Alban]

6 minutes ago, JFK-1 said:

 

That aside I do think we raised on the island have always seen ourselves as somehow apart from Europe, beyond the physical boundary of the channel.

 

Not quite Europeans like the continentals are Europeans, a breed unto ourselves. While steadfastly declining to learn their languages. 

 

You could say, a collective 'Ass' And the USA have inherited it.

[JFK-1]

Been reading some of the report, Alex Jones is referenced a heap of times, needless to say not in a flattering manner. This is the first mention of him in the report, page 527.

 

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One especially notorious conspiracy theorist, Alex Jones, repeatedly told his InfoWars’ viewers that January 6th would be a day of reckoning. Jones is known for his outlandish conspiracy-mongering, including his baseless
claim that the massacre of school children at Sandy Hook Elementary School was really a “false flag” operation staged by the U.S. Government.

Of course, his vicious lie was disproven in court, but Jones is obsessed with “deep state” conspiracy theories and often propagates them.

 

After the 2020 presidential election, Jones argued that President Trump should use the power of the Government to impose martial law on American citizens.

 

Along with his InfoWars co-hosts, Jones amplified President Trump’s “Big Lie” and relentlessly promoted President Trump’s “wild” protest. One of Jones’ co-hosts floated the idea of “storming right into the Capitol.” Jones himself marched to the Capitol January 6th. 

 

It goes into some detail of Jones influence in helping to not just gather the mob on the day but rile it up for the day and on the day. Given they talk about Jones so much, and he did indeed promote the big lie big time, they provide links to heaps of articles and videos of him doing it.

 

Given this amount of focus i'm wondering if Jones might find karma coming his way in this shitstorm too. I can't decide which of them is the most reprehensible, Jones or Trump.

 

But what Jones inflicted on those devastated and grieving families cannot ever be atoned for, beyond reprehensible? If he doused himself in petrol and set himself alight it might give some families a little satisfaction. But make nothing like atonement, what he did was beyond the pale.

 

But still conflicted about him or Trump, I know Trump would do anything to slither his way out of this. 

[Unknown user]

2 hours ago, JFK-1 said:

Been reading some of the report, Alex Jones is referenced a heap of times, needless to say not in a flattering manner. This is the first mention of him in the report, page 527.

 

 

It goes into some detail of Jones influence in helping to not just gather the mob on the day but rile it up for the day and on the day. Given they talk about Jones so much, and he did indeed promote the big lie big time, they provide links to heaps of articles and videos of him doing it.

 

Given this amount of focus i'm wondering if Jones might find karma coming his way in this shitstorm too. I can't decide which of them is the most reprehensible, Jones or Trump.

 

But what Jones inflicted on those devastated and grieving families cannot ever be atoned for, beyond reprehensible? If he doused himself in petrol and set himself alight it might give some families a little satisfaction. But make nothing like atonement, what he did was beyond the pale.

 

But still conflicted about him or Trump, I know Trump would do anything to slither his way out of this. 

 

I said this a while ago, when you watch Jones from the time, he's a passionate rabble rouser, spreading lies and encouraging insurrection against the government time and time again.

 

He's also a continuing major problem for the state because he's still talking to these morons in their living rooms every day. It's almost like he thinks no one else has been watching and he can do what he wants.

I want him taken down, and it might happen.

[ri Alban]

5 minutes ago, Smithee said:

 

I said this a while ago, when you watch Jones from the time, he's a passionate rabble rouser, spreading lies and encouraging insurrection against the government time and time again.

 

He's also a continuing major problem for the state because he's still talking to these morons in their living rooms every day. It's almost like he thinks no one else has been watching and he can do what he wants.

I want him taken down, and it might happen.

I remember him during a riot, standing on top of a vehicle with a megaphone, coordinating and encouraging the ***** to violence.

[Unknown user]

Just now, ri Alban said:

I remember him during a riot, standing on top of a vehicle with a megaphone, coordinating and encouraging the ***** to violence.

 

Oh man that would be so good. I hope he goes on the run and we get a good perp walk.

[Mikey1874]

Tough crowd

 

 

[Maple Leaf]

36 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said:

Tough crowd

 

 

 

So now Biden isn't Christian enough?  The right-wing nut jobs are scraping the bottom of the barrel.

[Captain Slog]

I had a minister once told me I was the son of God because he's my father.  Had some argument about adoption to back it up and a similar one about why Christians were the chosen people cos we choose to get adopted, and jews dont count cos they crucified our father.

 

My wife ordered me not to espouse that in the mid west.

 

 

Edited December 25, 2022 by Captain Slog

[ri Alban]

Christ is 'Son of Man'

[Unknown user]

12 hours ago, Mikey1874 said:

Tough crowd

 

 

 

Not Bo

[JFK-1]

I'm still trying to figure out what a defence of Trump may look like, and still can't come up with anything but insanity. What's Trump's defence or excuses let's say been all along?

 

"fake news", "witch hunt", and so on, utter witless shite. And utter witless shite like that wont fly in a court.

 

Trump is accustomed to talking total shit while people just listen and then try to humour him in some way. Take that shit into a court the response will be WTF are you rambling about. Literally laughed out of court.

 

That's what he's going to run with? The tired old debunked a million times over crazy shit?  What sort of lawyer would go with that while telling him oh yeah this is the bomb, this will clear you.

 

There's absolutely no way out of this for Trump, if I were him I would already know that even without lawyers around. But i'm in the real world, and i'm not qualified to say if Trump is.

 

Maybe he actually is totally batshit crazy on some level. Call him a high functioning schizophrenic with a very thin veneer of normality. Enough to negotiate the world, albeit chaotically, but actually on a whole other planet in his orange head.

 

And this isn't even all of it, the DOJ are now looking at over 20 attempts by Trump and allies to pressure election officials into changing the vote, in Trumps favour of course.

 

And there's a suggestion there were over 200 attempts in total, probably all aimed at the same people. The first 10 minutes of this video speaks of how totally screwed Trump is.

 

 

[jambopilms]

23 hours ago, Captain Slog said:

I had a minister once told me I was the son of God because he's my father.  Had some argument about adoption to back it up and a similar one about why Christians were the chosen people cos we choose to get adopted, and jews dont count cos they crucified our father.

 

My wife ordered me not to espouse that in the mid west.

 

 

Are there still states/ cities/ towns in the mid west that you are frowned upon if you are not a church goer ?

Edited December 26, 2022 by jambopilms

[Captain Slog]

Oh my word yes, my wife was routinely threatened at Kansas State Uni for not being Christian.  Compare it to Edinburgh where its practically expected for young girls to go through a goth witchy phase.

 

Thing is, it has to be the right sort of church,  Has to be white.  Can't allow gays.  Must give money to Trump.

 

Rebublicans weaponize churches  for votes just as much as ever, you just have to look at some of the post on the Ukraine thread about Putin manipulating that.

[Captain Slog]

And wait till you find out about magic underwear that keeps youngsters pure, though i think that may be just a mormon thing.

[jambopilms]

2 hours ago, Captain Slog said:

Oh my word yes, my wife was routinely threatened at Kansas State Uni for not being Christian.  Compare it to Edinburgh where its practically expected for young girls to go through a goth witchy phase.

 

Thing is, it has to be the right sort of church,  Has to be white.  Can't allow gays.  Must give money to Trump.

 

Rebublicans weaponize churches  for votes just as much as ever, you just have to look at some of the post on the Ukraine thread about Putin manipulating that.

Scary stuff. I thought it might just have been how these things are portrayed on the TV. 

Feels like the US is still a hundred years behind on some aspects of life. 

[Maple Leaf]

30 minutes ago, jambopilms said:

Scary stuff. I thought it might just have been how these things are portrayed on the TV. 

Feels like the US is still a hundred years behind on some aspects of life. 

The US Air Force Academy in Colorado is not a place you'd want to attend if you're not an evangelical Christian.

 

https://ffrf.org/component/k2/item/13195-evangelicalism-is-the-official-religion-of-the-air-force-academy

[Captain Slog]

Wish it was only 100 years.

 

They still have militias and the right to bear arms, despite the mass shooting every nearly day.

 

Their electoral college doesn't actually have to return who they vote for, is the scariest thing as you can guarantee Trumpets been ensuring the electors are part of his cult.

[Captain Slog]

2 minutes ago, Maple Leaf said:

The US Air Force Academy in Colorado is not a place you'd want to attend if you're not an evangelical Christian.

 

https://ffrf.org/component/k2/item/13195-evangelicalism-is-the-official-religion-of-the-air-force-academy

If a lutherian resigns because its too evangelical - just wow.

[Captain Slog]

I'm looking forward to the media in four years time, just in case Scotland play at Arrowhead stadium.

 

I presume the players will be allowed rainbow armbands, but in many ways USA is as right wing as Qatar.

[SwindonJambo]

Religion or Christianity at least, is a rapidly declining influence on society in every developed country on Earth with one notable and increasingly scary exception.

 

In other news Ron de Santis is now the runaway favourite to be the Republican Candidate in 2024 according to oddschecker. 

[Captain Slog]

I also hear that its now going to the Supreme Court regarding loan forgiveness for students, because some rich republican thinks its not fair on wealthy ex students who paid off their loans.

 

We all know how the supreme court is stacked.

 

 

[Maple Leaf]

37 minutes ago, SwindonJambo said:

Religion or Christianity at least, is a rapidly declining influence on society in every developed country on Earth with one notable and increasingly scary exception.

 

In other news Ron de Santis is now the runaway favourite to be the Republican Candidate in 2024 according to oddschecker. 

If that happens, the noise of an exploding Trump in Mar-a Lago will be heard around the world.

[Maple Leaf]

33 minutes ago, Captain Slog said:

I also hear that its now going to the Supreme Court regarding loan forgiveness for students, because some rich republican thinks its not fair on wealthy ex students who paid off their loans.

 

We all know how the supreme court is stacked.

 

 

 

There can be a discussion about the fairness of student loan forgiveness.

 

Is it fair to students who've paid off their loans?  Is it fair to a person who, instead of going to college, borrowed money to buy a truck and started his own business?   Should that guy's loan be forgiven?

 

PS, I don't know the answers. 

[milky_26]

On 25/12/2022 at 14:15, Mikey1874 said:

Tough crowd

 

 

moonshine has got to his head

[Captain Slog]

1 hour ago, Maple Leaf said:

 

There can be a discussion about the fairness of student loan forgiveness.

 

Is it fair to students who've paid off their loans?  Is it fair to a person who, instead of going to college, borrowed money to buy a truck and started his own business?   Should that guy's loan be forgiven?

 

PS, I don't know the answers. 

Was an astounding answer to my statement though, kudos, you got me thinking.

[Unknown user]

Trump meltdown incoming

[SwindonJambo]

1 hour ago, Maple Leaf said:

If that happens, the noise of an exploding Trump in Mar-a Lago will be heard around the world.

Not kidding 😂 His fragile ego wouldn't cope. The big concern is how his tens of millions of devoted meathead worshipers react.

[Unknown user]

 

[JFK-1]

37 minutes ago, Smithee said:

 

 

I believe "that story", everybody believes it.

[Unknown user]

27 minutes ago, JFK-1 said:

 

I believe "that story", everybody believes it.

 

It's happening, the more I hear about the committee's findings, the more obvious it is that he's coming down.

 

His big problem is that because of him, loads of other people are also implicated in an insurrection, and they're not former Presidents with millions of mindless followers, they need to fear for their futures.

It'll be a race to see who flips first.

[JFK-1]

13 minutes ago, Smithee said:

 

It's happening, the more I hear about the committee's findings, the more obvious it is that he's coming down.

 

His big problem is that because of him, loads of other people are also implicated in an insurrection, and they're not former Presidents with millions of mindless followers, they need to fear for their futures.

It'll be a race to see who flips first.

 

This latest pile of shit is exactly what I was speaking of earlier. This isn't a defence, it's nothing but a rerun of all the shit they just spent 18 months deconstructing, while he pretends they didn't. The report doesn't exist?

 

Freakshow that will be laughed out of court. That is If any lawyer is mental enough to run with it.

[ri Alban]

4 hours ago, Maple Leaf said:

 

There can be a discussion about the fairness of student loan forgiveness.

 

Is it fair to students who've paid off their loans?  Is it fair to a person who, instead of going to college, borrowed money to buy a truck and started his own business?   Should that guy's loan be forgiven?

 

PS, I don't know the answers. 

Maybe not, but you have to start somewhere. The past is the past not everyone can be saved. and if you want to borrow money for a truck, that's up to you. It's not even an argument, or do we buy everyone a home. But I'm sure I can claim my truck back when I do my tax returns, that should even it up. Dumbass with a truck, brainiac with a degree.

 

 

Edited December 27, 2022 by ri Alban

[JFK-1]

6 hours ago, Smithee said:

 

It's happening, the more I hear about the committee's findings, the more obvious it is that he's coming down.

 

His big problem is that because of him, loads of other people are also implicated in an insurrection, and they're not former Presidents with millions of mindless followers, they need to fear for their futures.

It'll be a race to see who flips first.

 

Another thing I was just thinking about it. One of the indictments the committee recommended was for "making false statements", and there he is doing it again, on video, adding to the pile of evidence against him.

You think this guy has a lawyer at all? Or just ignores them? Cos he's the smartest guy in any room isn't he. A "very stable genius".

 

And I think you're right about people flipping, probably lots. I think several big ones may have already flipped. Giuliani will flip. If he doesn't he's probably going to die in jail. For Trump?

When they executed the search warrant, "the raid" Trump called it, they appeared to know exactly where to look for a document stash. Somebody on the inside must have told them exactly where these documents were, the journalists were speculating his son in-law, Jared Kushner.

Who could very well have been involved in the theft of those documents at source then in the concealment of them. And I would be willing to bet he's been involved in countless other questionable or oven illegal activities during Trumps madhouse of a Whitehouse.

Not he or the daughter Ivanka would go to jail for Trump. And doubtless they know he would throw them under the bus in a heartbeat if it somehow got him out. Why would anybody go to jail for Trump now? He's in the descendency.

The GOP don't want him around anymore, he's a proven election loser, and seemingly nor does even Murdoch. Who was arguably the real kingmaker responsible for putting Trump on what Trump thought was the throne of a Tudor era monarch. 

Edited December 27, 2022 by JFK-1

[JFK-1]

The first 10 minutes of the following video has an excellent breakdown of the GOP crash in recent elections which gave Biden a historic election victory. For just one thing they were running Trump nominated candidates in key states, we're talking Dr Oz and Herschel vampires or werewolves Walker FFS.

 

Seems Republicans in this state had endured enough of the insanity, no attempt to even hide the fact this is a bona fide clown car. Walker was confirming that on a daily basis. They began turning to and supporting the Dem candidates. We're talking Republican officials here.

 

That's encouraging, people have had enough of this non stop turmoil began by Trump and now being carried on by the assortment of wackos who did get elected. The like of MTG and an assortment of qanon nuts etc.

 

I think enough are becoming tired of the right in your face insanity the GOP is mired in to make them completely unelectable for the foreseeable future.

 

Unless they unhitch themselves from this insanity, but anybody see a way for them to do that while the curse of Trump still hangs over them?

 

He's out of their control, even worse shit about him is going to surface, he doesn't give the proverbial flying F about their election woes.

 

Only cares about Trump. Call it karma, they richly deserve to be wallowing in the cesspit they enabled the digging of.

 

 

 

[JFK-1]

Truly savage takedown from Salon magazine. Including the fact he has the hots for his daughter. 

 

Trump's idiotic "trading cards" are the last straw for Republicans — but in God's name, why?

 

They didn't mind the coup, the corruption, the sexual misconduct or the lies. But a trading-card scam — horrors!

 

Since Donald Trump's "Major Announcement" the week before last turned out to be his attempt to sell ridiculous "digital trading cards" featuring his head photoshopped onto cartoon bodies he only wishes he had, Republicans have begun to abandon him. It is puzzling, to put it mildly, that this latest grift in a lifetime of grifting could be Trump's bridge too far for many Republicans.

Let us consider a few of the things Donald Trump has done and said that were not enough to get his fellow Republicans to turn against him, and how his supporters apparently reacted:
 

Taking more than $400 million (in today's dollars) from his father and, during the decade between 1985 and 1994, losing more than a billion — more than anyone else in America — and declaring bankruptcy several times while claiming to be a great businessman?

Losing vast amounts of money while running a casino, a business where the house always wins? Well, look at all those buildings with his name on them — and his private jet!

 

FULL ARTICLE: https://www.salon.com/2022/12/27/idiotic-trading-cards-are-the-last-straw-for--but-in-gods-name-why/

 

 

[JFK-1]

Cassidy Hutchinson saw Mark Meadows burning documents 'maybe a couple of times a week or so'. This was during a period through December into mid January. She doesn't know what was in them.

 

But she does remembering him burning documents on a number of occasions right after meeting Pennsylvania GOP congressman Rick Perry. Between two and four times Meadows burned documents right after meeting Perry.

 

When asked if she knew what they had been talking about she said election issues. When asked if she could be more specific she replied the role of the Vice President on Jan 6th.

[Watt-Zeefuik]

On 26/12/2022 at 16:50, Maple Leaf said:

 

There can be a discussion about the fairness of student loan forgiveness.

 

Is it fair to students who've paid off their loans?  Is it fair to a person who, instead of going to college, borrowed money to buy a truck and started his own business?   Should that guy's loan be forgiven?

 

PS, I don't know the answers. 

I paid off my loans because I got tech jobs after college and have had enough money to do so. Others haven't been as fortunate. College never should have cost so much in the first place so I want as many loans forgiven as possible.

[ri Alban]

35 minutes ago, Led Tasso said:

I paid off my loans because I got tech jobs after college and have had enough money to do so. Others haven't been as fortunate. College never should have cost so much in the first place so I want as many loans forgiven as possible.

I'm sure over here, you don't start to pay back until you earn over a specific salary. Is this the same in the US, or do you start to pay, pronto.

[Unknown user]

On 26/12/2022 at 21:50, Maple Leaf said:

 

There can be a discussion about the fairness of student loan forgiveness.

 

Is it fair to students who've paid off their loans?  Is it fair to a person who, instead of going to college, borrowed money to buy a truck and started his own business?   Should that guy's loan be forgiven?

 

PS, I don't know the answers. 

 

That doesn't seem cool to me, choosing to land people with debt so they're just as ****ed as those other guys.

 

But quite apart from that, education benefits society, it's an investment for us all.

[Maple Leaf]

1 hour ago, Led Tasso said:

I paid off my loans because I got tech jobs after college and have had enough money to do so. Others haven't been as fortunate. College never should have cost so much in the first place so I want as many loans forgiven as possible.

 

22 minutes ago, Smithee said:

 

That doesn't seem cool to me, choosing to land people with debt so they're just as ****ed as those other guys.

 

But quite apart from that, education benefits society, it's an investment for us all.

 

I also think that forgiving students their loans is a good idea, but I can see why some think it's unfair.

[Watt-Zeefuik]

52 minutes ago, Maple Leaf said:

 

 

I also think that forgiving students their loans is a good idea, but I can see why some think it's unfair.

 

Eh, life is unfair. People who still have large student loans tend to be people with lower incomes, and are often those who were swindled by unscrupulous for-profit colleges.

 

Some of those with student loans have already paid back more than the balance of their original principal but because of usurious interest rates are still deep in the hole. To me if you can't see clear to total forgiveness, it should be to retroactively give everyone principal credit for what they've paid into interest, effectively retroactively making the loans interest-free.

[JFK-1]

I think there's some heavy shit in the pipeline for this George Santos guy, newly elected GOP congressman. He's been in the news the past few days for blatant lying on his CV, lots of lying, but that's not illegal.

 

But it's just coming out that there's a lot more to be suspicious about when it comes to him. Federal prosecutors are now investigating his finances. Seems he went from someone of little means to millionaire in a very short space of time. Allegedly investigated for embezzlement in Brazil.

 

I'm wondering what happens if this guy ends up being arrested, seems the GOP would ideally like to unload him, but McCarthy desperately needs the votes.

 

 

[ri Alban]

1 hour ago, JFK-1 said:

I think there's some heavy shit in the pipeline for this George Santos guy, newly elected GOP congressman. He's been in the news the past few days for blatant lying on his CV, lots of lying, but that's not illegal.

 

But it's just coming out that there's a lot more to be suspicious about when it comes to him. Federal prosecutors are now investigating his finances. Seems he went from someone of little means to millionaire in a very short space of time. Allegedly investigated for embezzlement in Brazil.

 

I'm wondering what happens if this guy ends up being arrested, seems the GOP would ideally like to unload him, but McCarthy desperately needs the votes.

 

 

And Trump plays his first pawn.

[JFK-1]

Here's another factor regarding indicting Trump and others I have seen legal analysts describing. The committee report despite being compelling in demonstrating a massive conspiracy on multiple fronts is apparently better described as an abstract. A skeleton case.

 

The actual evidence submitted in a trial would amount to many thick volumes, they're holding masses back from public view. And there's an important reason for this. You put out there all you have then the countless witnesses involved and their lawyers will see it.

 

Then you can have a situation where some or many are contacting each other, or their lawyers are communicating. And what they're doing is trying to sort of tailor their defence case to suit.

 

Plus there are sensitive witnesses who if their identity were revealed right now it could jeopardise their safety and attempts at intimidation. There's speculation that Meadows and/or Pence might already have flipped.

 

it's been reported in the latest release by the committee that Meadows was keen for a pardon, pardon for what? This demonstrates "consciousness of guilt" which is a crucial factor. Trump is in the same boat.

 

It's been revealed that in the final hours Trump wanted to "blanket pardon" all the Capitol insurrectionists, but Pat Cipollone knocked that down. Trumps next idea was a blanket pardon for all Whitehouse staff. Also nixed by Cipollone who asked pardoned for what?

 

Trump replies any little thing they might come after us for. No explanation of what or who they are. The "Biden crime mob" presumably.  To which Cipollone responds with but no one here has done anything to be pardoned for. This also demonstrates consciousness of guilt on the part of Trump.

[JFK-1]

Christian Nationalism Conspicuously Absent From January 6 Report

 

Amanda Tyler, executive director of the Baptist Joint Committee for Religious Liberty, talks about the role that Christian nationalism plays in extremist movements and events like January 6th.

 

 

[Maple Leaf]

9 hours ago, JFK-1 said:

I think there's some heavy shit in the pipeline for this George Santos guy, newly elected GOP congressman. He's been in the news the past few days for blatant lying on his CV, lots of lying, but that's not illegal.

 

But it's just coming out that there's a lot more to be suspicious about when it comes to him. Federal prosecutors are now investigating his finances. Seems he went from someone of little means to millionaire in a very short space of time. Allegedly investigated for embezzlement in Brazil.

 

I'm wondering what happens if this guy ends up being arrested, seems the GOP would ideally like to unload him, but McCarthy desperately needs the votes.

 

 

Regardless of what they uncover on this Santos character, he will take his seat in Congress in January.  Just another liar among a sea of liars.

[JFK-1]

15 hours ago, Maple Leaf said:

 

Regardless of what they uncover on this Santos character, he will take his seat in Congress in January.  Just another liar among a sea of liars.

 

I expect him to take the seat, but I don't know what would happen if he were later arrested and even detained say, as a flight risk. There's some real weird shit about this guy. Claimed both parents were in twin towers 9/11, not true, but what a bizarre thing to say.

 

And from no money to multi millionaire putting significant sums into his own campaign and which appear to have worked. Like Trump in 2016, nobody thought he had a chance, a joke candidate.

 

There's a sniff of some real shady shit about it all when you throw in his embezzlement in Brazil thing too. It's an indication of where the GOP finds itself right now that McCarthy has to rely on such a train wreck of a clown car to get what he wants.

 

McCarthy has no ideology as such, he will support anything that gets him what he wants. Feck the country. The likes of this guy and MGT are essential for everything. Or more accurately their votes are.

 

This is going to be a disaster when they take over. MTG will litter the landscape with all sorts of frivolous 'investigation' committees including apparently looking into impeaching Biden  and arresting the likes of Dr Fauci, that insane. Hunter Biden's laptop of course will be a major 'policy' of the GOP.

 

All sprinkled with a dose of anti Semitism, white nationalism, and encouragement of far right militias. I was glad to see the wackos who plotted to kidnap the Michigan governor got 16 and 19 years.  

[JFK-1]

Trailer for a new documentary breaking down the attack on the capitol, being aired by Discovery+ on Thursday Jan 5th. Some disturbing testimonies from police and first responders on the day.

 

Experience a firsthand look at the events that unfolded at the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021, featuring interviews with members of Congress and exclusive accounts from police officers and first responders.

 

 

 

 

[Bigsmak]

50 minutes ago, JFK-1 said:

Trailer for a new documentary breaking down the attack on the capitol, being aired by Discovery+ on Thursday Jan 5th. Some disturbing testimonies from police and first responders on the day.

 

Experience a firsthand look at the events that unfolded at the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021, featuring interviews with members of Congress and exclusive accounts from police officers and first responders.

 

 

 

 

 

Dont usually watch trailers but made an exception for this. 

 

I just want to know why the police / security were so lenient on the people storming the capitol.  Without trying to sound like an arse - had the first wave of people trying to get in been Black, or wearing Islamic Apparel, they would have been shot. Quickly and decisively and it would have put an end to it. 

 

There was so much going on that allowed this to happen.