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8 minutes ago, Barack said:

Only at this bit: 

Anderson Cooper: “You-- you told Donald Trump to turn around and take off his pants.

Stormy Daniels: Yes.

Anderson Cooper: And did he?

Stormy Daniels: Yes. So he turned around and pulled his pants down a little -- you know had underwear on and stuff and I just gave him a couple swats.”

 

:wow::scenes:

 

Can’t wait for the other comedy moments...

 

needz moar weewee.......

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5 minutes ago, Barack said:

 

Interview was rather anti-climactic.

 

You paid €130,000 for that, Donald?  She must have seen you coming.  :runaway:

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4 hours ago, Maple Leaf said:

What will it take for all these "family values" hypocrites in the Republican party to say, enough is enough?  Trump is facing multiple charges of sexual assault, multiple accusations of extra-marital affairs, and is twice divorced.  VP Mike Spence, whose attitudes about marriage and fidelity are so severe than he makes the Puritans look like sexual deviants, stands by his man in every picture you see of them together.  What a hypocrite.  

 

If you mean the ones that would inspire an absolutely spot on sign like this, they're behaving like they always have.

 

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Watched Stormy Daniels, not impressed at all.  There is little doubt something happened, Trump is usually more antagonistic, and if nothing happened why would you need a non disclosure agreement. My only doubts on Ms Daniels was that I thought she had been prepared rather than spontaneous, her lawyer is certainly a mover and shaker, he is making a fortune on TV appearances, and I was genuinely surprised to hear he had been a very enthusiastic Democrat supporter. The only people who will get hurt are the genuine well meaning American people who voted for Trump for what they believed him to be, only to find he is a scoundrel, it will be some sort of profound justice if he is brought down by a porn star, and illicit campaign funds. It was an early lesson in my life, take care of the small things they are the ones that will do you in, the big things have a habit of looking after themselves.

 

On a small side note I watched some older video of him and Melania, they were walking somewhere, he as you do while they were walking had his hand make contact with hers so they could walk holding hands and she quickly moved her hand and put it in her pocket.  Which reminded me of my old mothers saying " if he kept his toojer in its pocket he wouldnae be in this bother now"

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34 minutes ago, bobsharp said:

Watched Stormy Daniels, not impressed at all.  There is little doubt something happened, Trump is usually more antagonistic, and if nothing happened why would you need a non disclosure agreement. My only doubts on Ms Daniels was that I thought she had been prepared rather than spontaneous, her lawyer is certainly a mover and shaker, he is making a fortune on TV appearances, and I was genuinely surprised to hear he had been a very enthusiastic Democrat supporter. The only people who will get hurt are the genuine well meaning American people who voted for Trump for what they believed him to be, only to find he is a scoundrel, it will be some sort of profound justice if he is brought down by a porn star, and illicit campaign funds. It was an early lesson in my life, take care of the small things they are the ones that will do you in, the big things have a habit of looking after themselves.

 

On a small side note I watched some older video of him and Melania, they were walking somewhere, he as you do while they were walking had his hand make contact with hers so they could walk holding hands and she quickly moved her hand and put it in her pocket.  Which reminded me of my old mothers saying " if he kept his toojer in its pocket he wouldnae be in this bother now"

 

Yeah, I doubt if her testimony would stand up in a court of law.  However, the question remains, and needs to be answered, is why did Trump's lawyer pay her $130,000, and get her to sign an NDA, if there wasn't some truth to her claims?

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5 hours ago, bobsharp said:

Watched Stormy Daniels, not impressed at all.  There is little doubt something happened, Trump is usually more antagonistic, and if nothing happened why would you need a non disclosure agreement. My only doubts on Ms Daniels was that I thought she had been prepared rather than spontaneous, her lawyer is certainly a mover and shaker, he is making a fortune on TV appearances, and I was genuinely surprised to hear he had been a very enthusiastic Democrat supporter. The only people who will get hurt are the genuine well meaning American people who voted for Trump for what they believed him to be, only to find he is a scoundrel, it will be some sort of profound justice if he is brought down by a porn star, and illicit campaign funds. It was an early lesson in my life, take care of the small things they are the ones that will do you in, the big things have a habit of looking after themselves.

 

On a small side note I watched some older video of him and Melania, they were walking somewhere, he as you do while they were walking had his hand make contact with hers so they could walk holding hands and she quickly moved her hand and put it in her pocket.  Which reminded me of my old mothers saying " if he kept his toojer in its pocket he wouldnae be in this bother now"

 

"Hear now this, O foolish people, and without understanding; which have eyes, and see not; which have ears, and hear not."

Or

"There are none so blind as those who will not see"

 

Everybody who voted for Trump knew what they were getting, knew that they were voting for lying misogynistic serial adulterer, a man who has lied about everything his entire life.

And if they didn't know then they must have been living on Mars for the last 40+ years as there has been thousands of pages written and hours of TV footage over many many years showing what the real Donald Trump was like.

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, Maple Leaf said:

 

Yeah, I doubt if her testimony would stand up in a court of law.  However, the question remains, and needs to be answered, is why did Trump's lawyer pay her $130,000, and get her to sign an NDA, if there wasn't some truth to her claims?

 

I wish someone would pay me $130,000 to keep quiet about something which never happened!!!!!

 

It just shows how deluded Trump and his supporters have become if they think anybody is believing that they gave Daniels $130,000 for nothing.

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3 hours ago, Ugly American said:

He's replacing the head of Veteran Affairs.

 

With his personal doctor.

 

A nice reward for the doctor for simply stating, over and over and over, that Tubby Trump is in excellent health.

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8 hours ago, Ugly American said:

He's replacing the head of Veteran Affairs.

 

With his personal doctor.

 

So is this another super fantastic great excellent brilliant talented guy replacing a super fantastic great excellent brilliant talented guy?

 

Of course we all know the results of next years medical now.

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12 hours ago, Ugly American said:

He's replacing the head of Veteran Affairs.

 

With his personal doctor.

I'm sure you've read his resume. So I'm going to go with straw grasping on this post.

Personal doctor? As in White House appointed doctor and for the last three administrations. Not exactly 100% personal to Trump then.

A professional decorated military man who just might have military service personnel and their health as his number one goal.

Just saying.

  

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2 hours ago, alwaysthereinspirit said:

I'm sure you've read his resume. So I'm going to go with straw grasping on this post.

Personal doctor? As in White House appointed doctor and for the last three administrations. Not exactly 100% personal to Trump then.

A professional decorated military man who just might have military service personnel and their health as his number one goal.

Just saying.

  

 

He seems like an honorable public servant with a distinguished military record, but I can see nothing in the versions of his record I found on a quick search before I posted that that indicate he has managed anything higher than a small physician's office. I see nothing that would indicate the experience required to take a cabinet-level position managing one of the major departments of the executive branch.

 

But I also notice that once again you have sat out weeks of actual policy-related things going on to only jump in with a nitpick and a presumption of bad faith on my part. You are obsessed with catching me in some small error or oversight rather than engaging with what the man occupying the most powerful office in the world is doing with that power.

 

Which is sad and pathetic.

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I was quite impressed with this gentleman when he was interviewed after the Presidents medical exam.  He seemed quite straightforward, and also quite adept at handling the media at his present level, As an Admiral he should have these qualities.

 

There are questions about his ability to handle such a large and impportant portfolio, based pretty much on the years he has spent in the White House where his management skills although possibly present may not have been at a level his new position requires.

 

What I feel is most concerning, as can be seen quite clearly with lawyers is that possible candidates for positions are becoming reluctant to accept the offers, and are declining. It seem the President is not the easiest person to work with, and job security is not a high priority for persons under his control. It must be most uncomfortable to have had discussions with the President about an important matter and then read in social media that he is stating positions that are extreme opposite to what has been reportedly discussed.  It also must be uncomfortable and for someone who has earned very senior miltary rank to read and hear on the media that you are the next one to be replaced.

 

Trump has his core support, but it is difficult to see with any optiimism how his Presidency can survive, he combats allegations of marital infidelity, with a new system of the military paying for the wall, he counters every problem with a new statement, and has made so many that some may even be contradictory, certainly are compared to election promises.  There is no doubt he is what he is, a business wheeler and dealer, a reality TV star, and a totally unsuitable President. 

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2 hours ago, Ugly American said:

 

He seems like an honorable public servant with a distinguished military record, but I can see nothing in the versions of his record I found on a quick search before I posted that that indicate he has managed anything higher than a small physician's office. I see nothing that would indicate the experience required to take a cabinet-level position managing one of the major departments of the executive branch.

 

But I also notice that once again you have sat out weeks of actual policy-related things going on to only jump in with a nitpick and a presumption of bad faith on my part. You are obsessed with catching me in some small error or oversight rather than engaging with what the man occupying the most powerful office in the world is doing with that power.

 

Which is sad and pathetic.

Sad and pathetic? That'll be me unable to sleep tonight.

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20 hours ago, Ugly American said:

 

He seems like an honorable public servant with a distinguished military record, but I can see nothing in the versions of his record I found on a quick search before I posted that that indicate he has managed anything higher than a small physician's office. I see nothing that would indicate the experience required to take a cabinet-level position managing one of the major departments of the executive branch.

 

But I also notice that once again you have sat out weeks of actual policy-related things going on to only jump in with a nitpick and a presumption of bad faith on my part. You are obsessed with catching me in some small error or oversight rather than engaging with what the man occupying the most powerful office in the world is doing with that power.

 

Which is sad and pathetic.

 

 

America, hell Yeah! "The most powerful office in the world" an office so powerful Kim Jong Un has had it dancing round thimbles for the past couple of years, an office so powerful it was beaten at it's own game by the Soviets, an office so powerful it has to bully tiny nations into voting for it's policies on an international scale.

 

Sad and pathetic is correct. A whole nation blinded by the light.

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1 hour ago, Sraman said:

 

 

America, hell Yeah! "The most powerful office in the world" an office so powerful Kim Jong Un has had it dancing round thimbles for the past couple of years, an office so powerful it was beaten at it's own game by the Soviets, an office so powerful it has to bully tiny nations into voting for it's policies on an international scale.

 

Sad and pathetic is correct. A whole nation blinded by the light.

 

It's a generally accepted truism that has been quoted by others here fairly freely, I wasn't making the case for it. Also "most powerful office in the world" does not mean "all-powerful," thank Christ.

 

I would far prefer that it were less powerful considering that the whims of the occupant of that office 15 years ago have destabilized an entire region, spurring multiple murderous terror groups, dragging the West into a protracted war it can never really win, resulting in the deaths of millions and the displacement of tens of millions in addition to destruction of ancient cities.

 

The power inherent in that office is a major problem, not something to be proud of, but you bang on.

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Trump giving a speech in Ohio shows pictures and tells the audience it is a part of his Wall, he does his usual arms wide isn't it beautiful performance, some I told you i would do it, talk.  Turns out it was in fact not a wall at all but a fence erected some time in the 90's, and was being repaired.

 

It raises a couple of questions, did he lie, did he know he was lying, was he stating what he had been given by aides, and failed to check, is he just a totally inefficient President lacking in competence and judgement, or is he a true leader of one of the world's richest, most heavily armed nuclear nations, we better all hope so, because if he isn't, well form your own opinion.  By the way Russia just launched a Satan 2, test rocket, possibly in response to and as a warning to the wests recent actions of expelling Russian diplomats.

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1 hour ago, Ugly American said:

 

It's a generally accepted truism that has been quoted by others here fairly freely, I wasn't making the case for it. Also "most powerful office in the world" does not mean "all-powerful," thank Christ.

 

I would far prefer that it were less powerful considering that the whims of the occupant of that office 15 years ago have destabilized an entire region, spurring multiple murderous terror groups, dragging the West into a protracted war it can never really win, resulting in the deaths of millions and the displacement of tens of millions in addition to destruction of ancient cities.

 

The power inherent in that office is a major problem, not something to be proud of, but you bang on.

 

 

Who would save us from the Russians then?

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50 minutes ago, shaun.lawson said:

 

Which one's his daughter?

 

 

I don't think either is his daughter, I think one may be the former Russian weight lifter now Russian porn star Stormita Danielosov

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On 3/30/2018 at 10:30, LesJambes said:

Can we someone troll DOnald Trump into buying Aberdeen FC? I don't know why but I think that would be hilarious

:lol: Would make Vlad look like an old boring suit...

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Oh dear, picking on the richest man on the planet isn't the best idea. Jealous are we Donald, noone talking about you this week, Donald.

You might need one Ulysses plates at the end of this drama.

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Trump "a subject but not a target" of the Mueller probe.

 

WaPo dropped that at like 9 EDT and political twitter hasn't stopped trying to figure out WTF that means since.

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12 minutes ago, Ugly American said:

Trump "a subject but not a target" of the Mueller probe.

 

WaPo dropped that at like 9 EDT and political twitter hasn't stopped trying to figure out WTF that means since.

 

No. Not yet a target. That means he's under investigation. It also means that Mueller has not yet decided to charge him.

 

Hearing this, Donny might well think: "I'm not a target? Better have a chat with Mueller, clear my good name and end this nonsense!" At which point... :hanged:

Long, long way to go yet, with Mueller behaving like a chess grandmaster. Though in any case: I don't think we'll discover just how deep this has truly gone in terms of the American state and security apparatus for many years. They'll still be making movies about it decades from now IMO.

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8 hours ago, shaun.lawson said:

 

No. Not yet a target. That means he's under investigation. It also means that Mueller has not yet decided to charge him.

 

Hearing this, Donny might well think: "I'm not a target? Better have a chat with Mueller, clear my good name and end this nonsense!" At which point... :hanged:

Long, long way to go yet, with Mueller behaving like a chess grandmaster. Though in any case: I don't think we'll discover just how deep this has truly gone in terms of the American state and security apparatus for many years. They'll still be making movies about it decades from now IMO.

 

Mueller continues to be highly regarded by lawmakers in Washington, even if he's under continual attack by Fox News, which I think is the only thing that stopping President Tweet from firing him.  But Mueller appears methodical and relentless so, yes, this inquiry will run for a while yet.

 

Whether Trump's election campaign colluded with the Russians remains to be seen, but there appears to be indicators that the Russians have Trump by the short ones over something that Donald doesn't want made public.  Money laundering?  Dodgy loans?  Women?  Not the last one, surely; Donald wouldn't ... oh wait! 

 

Looking forward to the movie.

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Mueller is apparently considering writing a report on his progress. It would be submitted to Rosenstein who could after review make it public.  It is thought it would be a historic document and put Trump in a terrible public light.  He is going down one way or the other.  How far will he go though to stay in his position, he is firing anyone who even remotely disagrees with him.  He is making decisions on his own, using the military on the border as one.  He is kissing Putins ass, and he is acting, talking and posturing like a dictator, his joke comment about China's president for life may not really be too far from the truth.

It is easy to shoot off ones mouth that someone is nuts, but in truth in a reasonable manner I would say in my humble, minimally trained, but seen a lot of life opinion this man does not think or act in a normal manner, and certainly is not Presidential in the true meaning of the word,  he is in fact in pretty much every way dictatorial, and has delusions that such can actually happen. 

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10 hours ago, Maple Leaf said:

 

Mueller continues to be highly regarded by lawmakers in Washington, even if he's under continual attack by Fox News, which I think is the only thing that stopping President Tweet from firing him.  But Mueller appears methodical and relentless so, yes, this inquiry will run for a while yet.

 

Whether Trump's election campaign colluded with the Russians remains to be seen, but there appears to be indicators that the Russians have Trump by the short ones over something that Donald doesn't want made public.  Money laundering?  Dodgy loans?  Women?  Not the last one, surely; Donald wouldn't ... oh wait! 

 

Looking forward to the movie.

 

From reading Fire and Fury the Kushner family come out of it interestingly. Should the book be 100% truth then Jared is not enjoying the investigation as his family have strong Russian links. Apparently he and Ivanka pushed for the FBI Directors sacking and for Mueller to go.

 

Imo - this is all to do with dirty money in the Trump and Kushner business world. The man is a compulsive hypocrot and liar - his towers use cheap non-American steel and yet he won an election on it. I think the investigation quickly caught a sniff of his personal and business dealings (and those of his nearest and dearest) and is following that. 

 

Cannot see him being impeached but winning a second term seems fanciful too. Remains to be seen if he'll get the nomination. Surely another Republican - Ryan, Nikki Hayley (she'll get sacked) or a Tillerson type - will challenge him for the nomination. 

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6 minutes ago, JamboX2 said:

Imo - this is all to do with dirty money in the Trump and Kushner business world.

 

Bingo. And the connections to Russia arise from that. Does Putin have him by the short and curlies? Yes. Trump and the Kushners have been compromised for years. Albeit there's no pee tape, sadly. 

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17 minutes ago, shaun.lawson said:

 

Bingo. And the connections to Russia arise from that. Does Putin have him by the short and curlies? Yes. Trump and the Kushners have been compromised for years. Albeit there's no pee tape, sadly. 

 

The Kremlin have him imo. Equally they seem to be chortling away with the major economic and political interests behind Brexit... wonder why? Beggars belief really. 

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Just now, JamboX2 said:

 

The Kremlin have him imo. Equally they seem to be chortling away with the major economic and political interests behind Brexit... wonder why? Beggars belief really. 

 

Yup. The big question from a British point of view is whether Mueller unearths similar dirty money around Brexit. Farage is a "person of interest" for the FBI; the response of the funded on pain of imprisonment BBC is to ignore this, invite him on Question Time for the seventy zillionth time, and go after Corbyn instead.

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15 minutes ago, shaun.lawson said:

 

Yup. The big question from a British point of view is whether Mueller unearths similar dirty money around Brexit. Farage is a "person of interest" for the FBI; the response of the funded on pain of imprisonment BBC is to ignore this, invite him on Question Time for the seventy zillionth time, and go after Corbyn instead.

It's pertinent to point out that both campaigns you point to had in respective less money and less foreign money.

It really is a joke the lack of facts and given the choice of clown v criminal I think the US electorate can be judged wisely don't you.

17 minutes ago, JamboX2 said:

 

The Kremlin have him imo. Equally they seem to be chortling away with the major economic and political interests behind Brexit... wonder why? Beggars belief 

Oh my .

That's some team.

Corbyn and Trump

 

If you really believe that Russian intelligence has something onbTrump and that holds US fore8gn policy to account.

 

Loolah 

Tinfoil 

 

Here's a clue.

 

 

C   I   A

 

Controlled a continent for decades.

At least.

Can't carry their own water.

 

?

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1 hour ago, jake said:

It's pertinent to point out that both campaigns you point to had in respective less money and less foreign money.

It really is a joke the lack of facts and given the choice of clown v criminal I think the US electorate can be judged wisely don't you.

Oh my .

That's some team.

Corbyn and Trump

 

If you really believe that Russian intelligence has something onbTrump and that holds US fore8gn policy to account.

 

Loolah 

Tinfoil 

 

Here's a clue.

 

 

C   I   A

 

Controlled a continent for decades.

At least.

Can't carry their own water.

 

?

 

Sorry Jake got to disagree with you on this one. The relationship between Trump and Putin is totally unnatural.  Trump is an egotistical little rich boy, who achieved a modicum of fame through a reality TV show.  Putin on the other hand was trained in all the tactics of the old KGB. He is reasonably quiet, is very Russian but actually more Soviet.  I honestly just do not see him liking Trump who is you would think everything he Putin  should/would dislike.

 

Trump has had dealings in Russia, so the spectre of financial implications is high, he as has been well published as a ladies man, his morals are low, and infidelity common.  As such these would not seem too bad as he has been forgiven at home, but if there is any  evidence of weird or strange practises and Russia threatens to make them public there will be no non disclosure agreements or any other cover up, he will be outed.  The man is a liability to the security of the world.

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6 hours ago, jake said:

It's pertinent to point out that both campaigns you point to had in respective less money and less foreign money.

It really is a joke the lack of facts and given the choice of clown v criminal I think the US electorate can be judged wisely don't you.

Oh my .

That's some team.

Corbyn and Trump

 

If you really believe that Russian intelligence has something onbTrump and that holds US fore8gn policy to account.

 

Loolah 

Tinfoil 

 

Here's a clue.

 

 

C   I   A

 

Controlled a continent for decades.

At least.

Can't carry their own water.

 

?

 

I think this is a tad disingenuous even by your standards Jake.

 

Leave have been accused of massaging figures by paying funds through other campaigns. Electoral Commission investigating this.

 

Trump however is under investigation by a DoJ investigator.

 

These are both instances of no smoke without fire.

 

But yes - CIA roflcopter indeed.

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The right-wing rabble-rouser Ann Coulter recently declared at a talk at Columbia University that the President was a "shallow, lazy ignoramus" and that she's now a former Trumper. "If he doesn't have us anymore, that's what he should be worried about," Coulter later told The New York Times. "He's not giving us what he promised at every campaign stop."

 

Ouch.  

Maybe the far-right in the Republican Party are finally starting to wake up to the fact that they elected a con man. 

 

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/06/opinions/how-trump-lost-ann-coulter-dantonio/index.html

 

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5 minutes ago, Barack said:

:greggy::clyay::sweeet::scenes:

FBI- Tell us about the payment to Stormy Daniels.

 

Trump-I have no idea what you are on about. Speak to my lawyer.

 

FBI- OK if you insist. Lets see what else we find when we pop along for a wee visit.

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2 minutes ago, Barack said:

FBI: "Mr. Cohen. Tell us about these files."

 

Cohen: "I have no idea what you are on about. Speak to MY lawyer."

 

 

And the band played on...

 

:jjyay:

 

It was amusing to see the photo of Cohen with his lawyer, and wondering who that lawyer's lawyer is, etc... :D

 

Does it sometimes go full circle?

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Seems the FBI are also making sure Cohen is very comfortable in his hotel room as they are there as well.

 

Very thoughtful of them.

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