DarthVodka Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Can he actually be replaced with a permanently while there is still HR and legal processes to go through? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar the Horrible Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, DETTY29 said: Couple of Hibs fans at work saying him and Dempster had a right old barney after his antics at the last Tynie derby. Not sure if our beloved SFA's inaction at the time has benefited or worsened the position to where Lennon / Hibs / Dempster are at now. Hibs paymasters had, had enough of his behaviour, and were tired of defending the indefensible, the antics at Tynecastle were the final straw, He then lost the dressing room and Leanne took the chance to get rid, he wont be back, but there is no chance any other club will risk now total busted flush now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 13 minutes ago, DarthVodka said: Can he actually be replaced with a permanently while there is still HR and legal processes to go through? No he can't. Otherwise he'd gave a strong claim for constructive dismissal. Hibs suspending him is the start of a discipline process so they'll let that run to it's natural conclusion, which will probably be some settlement agreement which suits both parties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Gentleman Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Make of it what you will.... https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/socceroos-boss-arnold-reportedly-eyes-hibernian-job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, John Gentleman said: Make of it what you will.... https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/socceroos-boss-arnold-reportedly-eyes-hibernian-job Given the Asia Cup shambles, that would do me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 59 minutes ago, John Gentleman said: Make of it what you will.... https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/socceroos-boss-arnold-reportedly-eyes-hibernian-job You always get lots of names. Agents put their names out. As well as media, bookies putting out obvious names like Strachan. Hibs have surprised us before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, iainmac said: No he can't. Otherwise he'd gave a strong claim for constructive dismissal. Hibs suspending him is the start of a discipline process so they'll let that run to it's natural conclusion, which will probably be some settlement agreement which suits both parties. He shouldn't get a penny imo. He allegedly assaulted another member of staff and verbally abused his immediate superior. What other job in the world would an employee get a compensation package after that. Open and shut case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, John Gentleman said: Make of it what you will.... https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/socceroos-boss-arnold-reportedly-eyes-hibernian-job Sounds like he’s perfect for the gig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, luckydug said: He shouldn't get a penny imo. He allegedly assaulted another member of staff and verbally abused his immediate superior. What other job in the world would an employee get a compensation package after that. Open and shut case. Spot on. If the rumours are true about what he allegedly did to Kamberi and said to Dempster, he might also be getting a visit from the Police. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, luckydug said: He shouldn't get a penny imo. He allegedly assaulted another member of staff and verbally abused his immediate superior. What other job in the world would an employee get a compensation package after that. Open and shut case. No such thing unless Hibs want to find themselves being sued for either breach of contract or unlawful dismissal. Hibs will be conducting a fact finding interview where all parties will be asked to give their version of events in writing. Only after that will any discipline charges follow. Suspending Lennon makes sure that everyone has enough time to gather facts / put their side / name witnesses etc. If the charge is Gross Misconduct, and he is found guilty, there are a number of options available to Hibs, including summary dismissal. Lennon will have the right to appeal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hibs-playing-dangerous-game-neil-13916169 That Keith Jackson article's brutal! He acknowledges that we don't know what actually happened, but hibs should be ashamed of themselves anyway for risking lennon's career! Of course hibs should be ashamed of themselves, but that's just a general truism, nothing to do with this. Jackson's a rhino sized arse. Edited January 28, 2019 by Smithee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) So how about Rat boy & Gary Josh'connor as the dream team management duo to replace popcorn teeth? C'mon jumbos you know it makes sense. Edited January 28, 2019 by Seymour M Hersh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthVodka Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, iainmac said: No such thing unless Hibs want to find themselves being sued for either breach of contract or unlawful dismissal. Hibs will be conducting a fact finding interview where all parties will be asked to give their version of events in writing. Only after that will any discipline charges follow. Suspending Lennon makes sure that everyone has enough time to gather facts / put their side / name witnesses etc. If the charge is Gross Misconduct, and he is found guilty, there are a number of options available to Hibs, including summary dismissal. Lennon will have the right to appeal. I presumed as much that just now Hibs cannot do a thing to replace him officially, hopefully the process is strung out and takes a while Eddie May was a clear as it comes stating he did not want the job on the Radio on Saturday, not sure he will be pleased being asked to take it for longer that expected. Ideal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, DarthVodka said: I presumed as much that just now Hibs cannot do a thing to replace him officially, hopefully the process is strung out and takes a while Eddie May was a clear as it comes stating he did not want the job on the Radio on Saturday, not sure he will be pleased being asked to take it for longer that expected. Ideal Unless both parties come to a "settlement agreement" (formerly known as a Compromise Agreement), this week will be used up by Fact Finding then Disciplinary Hearing. Written Decision will then be issued with an Appeal window if it goes against Lennon. I think Eddie May will be in the dug out for a couple of weeks at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 2 hours ago, DarthVodka said: Can he actually be replaced with a permanently while there is still HR and legal processes to go through? Nothing to stop them. The worst that could happen is that they will have to pay up his contract. The whole thing depends on what actually happened last week and possibly earlier. The two parties can come to an agreement on what form, and in what sums, the divorce takes. If an agreement cannot be reached, NL has recourse to an employment tribunal (assuming they sack him) who will decide what he is and is not due and in making their judgment will take into account the gravity of his indiscretion(s) and any previous warnings he has had re the execution of his duties. At the moment however, he is just suspended which technically means he is still manager so the appointment of a new manager is inappropriate unless and until his contract is terminated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Green Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 I wonder if the rumours of what was said / done are true. I wouldn't put it past him with his track record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It should have been ten Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, John Gentleman said: Make of it what you will.... https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/socceroos-boss-arnold-reportedly-eyes-hibernian-job Could do a job swap, Neil Lennon punted over the other side of the world sounds lovely...not for the Aussie’s right enough lol. Edited January 28, 2019 by It should have been ten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 No more word coming out of San Giro or their cowshed? Imagine he will be given 7 days to prepare his defence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Dallas Green said: I wonder if the rumours of what was said / done are true. I wouldn't put it past him with his track record. Can someone give more details of the rumours? Am I right to think he's thrown a chair at Leanne Dempster then made disparaging remarks about Kamberi's sexuality? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 21 minutes ago, DarthVodka said: I presumed as much that just now Hibs cannot do a thing to replace him officially, hopefully the process is strung out and takes a while Eddie May was a clear as it comes stating he did not want the job on the Radio on Saturday, not sure he will be pleased being asked to take it for longer that expected. Ideal Could use them taking points off Aberdeen this week to be honest. Seem to remember Terry of TBGWA fame was placed on garden leave, a successor was appointed with a new job title, Stubbsy must have been Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 16 pages, too many posts to check. Can we clarify if the alleged thrown chair, struck its intended victim, on the chin or the chest, and did the victim lie prone for many seconds as if mortally wounded? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Gentleman Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, It should have been ten said: Could do a job swap, Neil Lennon punted over the other side of the world sounds lovely...obviously not for the Aussie’s right enough lol. He wouldn't last long without the support of a sycophantic media, which he wouldn't get here. He can pi$$ off back to Norn Irn and then sunk without trace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Green Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, Serge said: Can someone give more details of the rumours? Am I right to think he's thrown a chair at Leanne Dempster then made disparaging remarks about Kamberi's sexuality? What I've read from social media (which obviously a lot of the time can be taken with a pinch of salt) is that he was sexist / homophobic. To whom, I'm not sure though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 That Daily Record article is atrocious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimKongUno Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 9 minutes ago, Serge said: Can someone give more details of the rumours? Am I right to think he's thrown a chair at Leanne Dempster then made disparaging remarks about Kamberi's sexuality? Rumour has it he got in Dempsters face and shouted at her , she told him to brush his teeth and he went nuts and called her a stupid dyke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 From all the wee ITK snippets the one thing I'm getting is that lennon's furious and about to go into jilted lover mode. How good would an ugly, bitter battle be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolkeith Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Smithee said: From all the wee ITK snippets the one thing I'm getting is that lennon's furious and about to go into jilted lover mode. How good would an ugly, bitter battle be? We all know what happened the last time Lennon went into jilted lover mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It should have been ten Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Smithee said: From all the wee ITK snippets the one thing I'm getting is that lennon's furious and about to go into jilted lover mode. How good would an ugly, bitter battle be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandylejambo Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 I think he should get paid, not that I have love for Lennon, but because they would have even less money than they do now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1986 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, luckydug said: He shouldn't get a penny imo. He allegedly assaulted another member of staff and verbally abused his immediate superior. What other job in the world would an employee get a compensation package after that. Open and shut case. An open and shut case on something that so far only ‘allegedly’ happened ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 A penny for Scott Allan's thoughts just now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...a bit disco Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Ex Killie boss Lee Clark 'throws his hat in the ring'. https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/former-kilmarnock-boss-lee-clark-very-interested-in-hibs-job-1-4863584 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 21 minutes ago, Koolkeith said: We all know what happened the last time Lennon went into jilted lover mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Apprentice Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 9 minutes ago, ...a bit disco said: Ex Killie boss Lee Clark 'throws his hat in the ring'. https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/former-kilmarnock-boss-lee-clark-very-interested-in-hibs-job-1-4863584 Unfortunately even Hibs wouldn't be that stupid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozi Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 26 minutes ago, Koolkeith said: We all know what happened the last time Lennon went into jilted lover mode. That's what I am really hoping for, lennon to refuse the pay off and a long drawn out bitter battle all in the public eye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheetah Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 19 minutes ago, ...a bit disco said: Ex Killie boss Lee Clark 'throws his hat in the ring'. https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/former-kilmarnock-boss-lee-clark-very-interested-in-hibs-job-1-4863584 Who's ring did he throw it into and is he now suspended? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 36 minutes ago, DH1986 said: An open and shut case on something that so far only ‘allegedly’ happened ? I know! As much as we all find this amusing, Lennon still has Employment Rights. Amanda Jones sits on the Hibs Board. She's a lawyer that specialises in Employment Law & Discrimination. I'd imagine this is being done in a proper manner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodami Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 If the rumours are true about the confrontation and the homophobic remarks I hope it all comes out and he is shown up for what he his, an utter hypocrite. A guy who discusses the impact of depression but indulges in bullying and speaks out about sectarianism but indulges in homophobia. He is the worst kind of opportunist scum and Scottish society would be far better off without him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...a bit disco Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Just now, Jodami said: If the rumours are true about the confrontation and the homophobic remarks I hope it all comes out and he is shown up for what he his, an utter hypocrite. A guy who discusses the impact of depression but indulges in bullying and speaks out about sectarianism but indulges in homophobia. He is the worst kind of opportunist scum and Scottish society would be far better off without him. Say what you mean mate, eh! No holding back now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Smithee said: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hibs-playing-dangerous-game-neil-13916169 That Keith Jackson article's brutal! He acknowledges that we don't know what actually happened, but hibs should be ashamed of themselves anyway for risking lennon's career! Of course hibs should be ashamed of themselves, but that's just a general truism, nothing to do with this. Jackson's a rhino sized arse. utterly hilarious, and appalling at the same time. One thing that Lennon absolutely is - a lightening rod for trouble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheile Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 30 minutes ago, Bozi said: That's what I am really hoping for, lennon to refuse the pay off and a long drawn out bitter battle all in the public eye Insert expensive after battle. The more expensive the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedBoy Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Allegedly a player spat on Mr Lennon, then there was an eruption of ginger fury. so I’m led to believe. get the popcorn at the ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodami Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 16 minutes ago, ...a bit disco said: Say what you mean mate, eh! No holding back now. Save me a fortune in small change at the next derby as well mate... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...a bit disco Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jodami said: Save me a fortune in small change at the next derby as well mate... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N Lincs Jambo Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 20 minutes ago, Jodami said: If the rumours are true about the confrontation and the homophobic remarks I hope it all comes out and he is shown up for what he his, an utter hypocrite. A guy who discusses the impact of depression but indulges in bullying and speaks out about sectarianism but indulges in homophobia. He is the worst kind of opportunist scum and Scottish society would be far better off without him. And let's not forget the alleged "throwing of a chair" by someone who, very recently, pointed to the dangers of throwing coins. Memory shorter than his temper if there's anything at all in these allegations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennant's 6's Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 25 minutes ago, Jodami said: If the rumours are true about the confrontation and the homophobic remarks I hope it all comes out and he is shown up for what he his, an utter hypocrite. A guy who discusses the impact of depression but indulges in bullying and speaks out about sectarianism but indulges in homophobia. He is the worst kind of opportunist scum and Scottish society would be far better off without him. You're bang on the money. His, I mean keith Jackson, article is a joke. He may very well be a nice guy, and he was decent as a pundit for the BBC, but the troubles that he's endured (which you can't condone) is more to do with how he's perceived, as opposed to straight out sectarianism/ racism. If that was the case then wee pat fenlon at all would get just the same.. Will be interesting to see how it develops, especially if there is acrimony & lawyers involved.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Serge said: Can someone give more details of the rumours? Am I right to think he's thrown a chair at Leanne Dempster then made disparaging remarks about Kamberi's sexuality? I wish it was true. Edited January 28, 2019 by Tommy Brown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Sir Gio said: 16 pages, too many posts to check. Can we clarify if the alleged thrown chair, struck its intended victim, on the chin or the chest, and did the victim lie prone for many seconds as if mortally wounded? Before the victim got up went about his business then afterwards admitted to the rest of the players he’d faked it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 2 hours ago, DarthVodka said: I presumed as much that just now Hibs cannot do a thing to replace him officially, hopefully the process is strung out and takes a while Eddie May was a clear as it comes stating he did not want the job on the Radio on Saturday, not sure he will be pleased being asked to take it for longer that expected. Ideal He and Murray said they didn’t want to do it on Sunday, they were reminded that they would be in breach of contract if they didn’t. I would imagine those two will be joining Lennon&Parker on the Buroo in the near future. Love it, been a while since they’ve been in crisis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 52 minutes ago, Jodami said: If the rumours are true about the confrontation and the homophobic remarks I hope it all comes out and he is shown up for what he his, an utter hypocrite. A guy who discusses the impact of depression but indulges in bullying and speaks out about sectarianism but indulges in homophobia. He is the worst kind of opportunist scum and Scottish society would be far better off without him. Fair enough, he shouldn’t have a high pressure job with his issues anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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