Portable Badger Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 1 hour ago, maroonlegions said: Well maybe the ITK"s could just send those requesting PMs to let them fell wanted then. That's when we'll all know that 'snowflakes' have finally taken over the world - when JKB goes all warm, fuzzy & inclusive. Group huge anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott herbertson Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, Ryder said: Nobody is making him out to be a work beater. Not one single poster. He was nowhere near lazy. That is the one thing you could not accuse him of. I never booed him and think those those who did are ****ing morons. Funny how we can see things so differently. At at times I thought he was pretty lazy. Looked as though he had given up. To be fair to him this is when we were playing shite and he was being brought on as a sub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ski Nae Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Gilbert’s Fridge said: That's when we'll all know that 'snowflakes' have finally taken over the world - when JKB goes all warm, fuzzy & inclusive. Group huge anyone? Could Hey Jude be mixed in with All You Need Is Love? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Just now, Rents said: Totally agree He may have been a different player in this CL team. The guy was on a hiding to nothing. He was written off before he had started. He was contributing a lot to the team but wasn’t scoring goals. The goals would probably have come (like they are now for him at Partick in the same league) but he was getting booed on to the pitch and slaughtered from the stands before he had a chance. Also agree that he could have benefitted from having more useful players than Tony Watt beside him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, Ryder said: Nobody is making him out to be a work beater. Not one single poster. He was nowhere near lazy. That is the one thing you could not accuse him of. I never booed him and think those those who did are ****ing morons. Funny how we can see things so differently. Definitely not a lazy player. Quite the opposite. Not great in the air for his size. Run the channels all day for you Given the kind of example that hurled abuse at him he is best off where he is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 1 minute ago, scott herbertson said: At at times I thought he was pretty lazy. Looked as though he had given up. To be fair to him this is when we were playing shite and he was being brought on as a sub. He was involved in plenty moves for us. Good passing movements and noisi g up defences. As time wore on he looked shorn of confidence and I put that down to the team struggling and the abuse from the stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ryder said: The guy was on a hiding to nothing. He was written off before he had started. He was contributing a lot to the team but wasn’t scoring goals. The goals would probably have come (like they are now for him at Partick in the same league) but he was getting booed on to the pitch and slaughtered from the stands before he had a chance. Also agree that he could have benefitted from having more useful players than Tony Watt beside him. Honestly are things that bad people are rewriting history He is simply not good enough, never was and never will be...a terrible signing which was clear to 9/10 Hearts fans even before he signed..........whomever picked him needs their backside kicked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Spencer said: Definitely not a lazy player. Quite the opposite. Not great in the air for his size. Run the channels all day for you Given the kind of example that hurled abuse at him he is best off where he is Agreeing with you far too often at the moment. Not comfortable with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portable Badger Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Ski Nae said: Could Hey Jude be mixed in with All You Need Is Love? Anything goes in happy, funky clappy-land !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Just now, CJGJ said: Honestly are things that bad people are rewriting history He is simply not good enough, never was and never will be...a terrible signing which was clear to 9/10 Hearts fans even before he signed..........whoever picked him needs his backside kicked. “never was” There you have it right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rods Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, Ryder said: He was involved in plenty moves for us. Good passing movements and noisi g up defences. As time wore on he looked shorn of confidence and I put that down to the team struggling and the abuse from the stands. Yeh folk where acting like he was terrible not the best but a bit more time he could have had a few goals for us by now. 8 minutes ago, Spencer said: Definitely not a lazy player. Quite the opposite. Not great in the air for his size. Run the channels all day for you Given the kind of example that hurled abuse at him he is best off where he is Agreed time to cut our losses similar to the Isma situation. I heard a story that CL warned Neilson on him signing so doubt we will see him again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 7 minutes ago, Ryder said: Agreeing with you far too often at the moment. Not comfortable with it. It won't last bud! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 1 minute ago, jonnothejambo said: The treatment dished out to him was shocking and I reckon some of it was based on his nationality. Not all of it, as he was not very good for us, but certainly some of it. He came across interviews as a decent bloke and is doing ok at Thistle which from my point of view is good to see. Agree with much of this Johnno... needs more swearies though! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamtartan74 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Sammon just wasn’t all that good for us but one thing he did do was try, wouldn’t have said he was lazy, in fact far from it, always put a shift in but his finishing was terrible and useless in the air. His confidence was shot and no wonder when he got the abuse from the stands the way he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said: The treatment dished out to him was shocking and I reckon some of it was based on his nationality. Not all of it, as he was not very good for us, but certainly some of it. He came across interviews as a decent bloke and is doing ok at Thistle which from my point of view is good to see. Agreed. Never had an issue with Sammon, very good workrate just no luck infront of goal. When the fans got on his back it was game over for him. Hopefully him doing well at Thistle might result in a move elsewhere. Plenty teams down south in League 1 or 2 could do with a player like him. Probably make more money too.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 A lot of people made their mind up on Sammon before he kicked a ball and after the early Euro exit we needed a new boo boy. Boom. Perfect fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Marsh Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 9 minutes ago, Ryder said: He was involved in plenty moves for us. Good passing movements and noisi g up defences. As time wore on he looked shorn of confidence and I put that down to the team struggling and the abuse from the stands. Totally agree. I don't think he is anywhere near as bad as folk make out on here. We seemed to create barrel loads of chances during Sammons brief run in the first team. He and others just couldn't finish them at the start of last season. I don't think Neilson helped either by deploying him as the loan striker. His confidence seemed shot to pieces after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fandango Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Norhing to see here then ..... just a load of guff about a rubbish striker we shoved out on loan. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 32 minutes ago, sandylejambo said: lets not make Sammon out to be a world beater, when he was here he was lazy and couldn't trap a bag of cement and his first touch was his only touch, he stands over 6 foot and when he jumped he was under 5 foot, the man was a non trier and should never be allowed to pull on the jersey again, I never booed him but understand why others did. These parts certainly aren't true. Yes, he was quite poor but a lot of the abuse was unwarranted and I actually thought he took a lot of stick that should have been directed at Tony Watt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavman81 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Sammon tried hard but was rubbish The whole world apart from Robbie Neilson new it would be a bad signing, and his crapness in the two Euro games proved that the fans apathy towards him was justified In saying that - would probably do a job under Levein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Sammon can’t be our ‘new signing’ - he already plays for us. Can we get this thread back on topic please? Just to finish, the last couple of pages prove he was never given a chance by many, certainly wouldn’t be given a second chance by even more. I suspect he wouldn’t want to play for us again. Anyway, any news on a new striker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 11 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: Sammon can’t be our ‘new signing’ - he already plays for us. Can we get this thread back on topic please? Just to finish, the last couple of pages prove he was never given a chance by many, certainly wouldn’t be given a second chance by even more. I suspect he wouldn’t want to play for us again. Anyway, any news on a new striker? Come on Sammon is rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 46 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: A lot of people made their mind up on Sammon before he kicked a ball and after the early Euro exit we needed a new boo boy. Boom. Perfect fit I actually disagree with this. He was more popular than I expected him to be after not doing much in a Killie shirt. His performances made him a boo boy, same as Goncalves and all the other guys who have been booed (not that I boo btw) it's because they are rubbish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, mitch41 said: Come on Sammon is rubbish. I didn’t pass judgement on him. Just commented on comments on this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 9 minutes ago, rudi must stay said: I actually disagree with this. He was more popular than I expected him to be after not doing much in a Killie shirt. His performances made him a boo boy, same as Goncalves and all the other guys who have been booed (not that I boo btw) it's because they are rubbish He was rounded on before he even played his first league match for us!!! His performances at Killie that discredit caused him to be transferred for over £600k before a subsequent move for £1.2M to EPL Sammon was nowhere near as bad as some like to make him out to have been Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 11 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: I didn’t pass judgement on him. Just commented on comments on this thread. Oky doky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Sammon is Shite. A bench warmer at best. The proof is in the pudding. Close thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 8 minutes ago, Spencer said: He was rounded on before he even played his first league match for us!!! His performances at Killie that discredit caused him to be transferred for over £600k before a subsequent move for £1.2M to EPL Sammon was nowhere near as bad as some like to make him out to have been If you follow his career stats Eremenko made Sammons career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sairyinthat Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Didn't work for us,that simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 10 minutes ago, Spencer said: He was rounded on before he even played his first league match for us!!! His performances at Killie that discredit caused him to be transferred for over £600k before a subsequent move for £1.2M to EPL Sammon was nowhere near as bad as some like to make him out to have been Poor first tough, weak shots. Not much pace and I don't like his attitude, for me he's not good enough to be playing for Hearts and I'm glad he isnt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Vladimir of Romanov Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 It was the fans fault for booing. Ffs. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyhmfc Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 If folk want to discuss Sammon, start a new thread please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Morgan Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 14 minutes ago, daveyhmfc said: If folk want to discuss Sammon, start a new thread please. This. Why does every big thread on here go off topic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 If the main job of a striker was to hide behind the centre back as a cross was coming into the box Connor would be right up there with the best . He was an absolute master of this craft . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 2 hours ago, CJGJ said: Honestly are things that bad people are rewriting history He is simply not good enough, never was and never will be...a terrible signing which was clear to 9/10 Hearts fans even before he signed..........whomever picked him needs their backside kicked. Well said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, Joel Miller said: This. Why does every big thread on here go off topic? An interesting question. I think it just mirrors natural face to face conversation. What is your theory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locky Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Regarding Sammon, confidence is a wonderful thing. Ironically, those branding him lazy were probably the ones booing and hounding him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 35 minutes ago, Sir Vladimir of Romanov said: It was the fans fault for booing. Ffs. ? Don't think anyone is saying that. Not sure what it said about our fans though He is extremely unlikely to ever play for us again so it's all in the past now tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Lets get back on track......gies a name notts or daza??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, ramrod said: If the main job of a striker was to hide behind the centre back as a cross was coming into the box Connor would be right up there with the best . He was an absolute master of this craft . That disgrace on loan from Charlton certainly didn't help him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabienleclerq Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Sammon was shite at Hearts but are folk really suggesting he was lazy? He got some pretty awful abuse and bore the brunt of the fans frustration that should've been aimed higher up. i think folk expected a kevin kyle type and it's just not his game. He wasn't given a chance and in the end had to leave. The "lol its the fans fault he's shite" stuff is funny, obviously it seems a silly suggestion but your own fans abusing you will affect people in different ways. Tony cascarino's got a good bit about how it affected him, others will go the other way to silence them. The fans absolutely played a part in his performances imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notts1874 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Sammon is shite......and thankfully we can't recall him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notts1874 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said: Anything in the pipeline, Notts ? Nothing further to report from last night.......but I have been in the pub most of tonight ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Vladimir of Romanov Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 10 minutes ago, Spencer said: Don't think anyone is saying that. Not sure what it said about our fans though He is extremely unlikely to ever play for us again so it's all in the past now tbh It says if he is the best option then someone got something wrong. Agree that he is thankfully unlikely to ever play for us again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 9 minutes ago, Sir Vladimir of Romanov said: It says if he is the best option then someone got something wrong. Agree that he is thankfully unlikely to ever play for us again. Someone did get it wrong. Sadly Sammon wasn't an isolated case as we all know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Vladimir of Romanov Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Just now, Spencer said: Someone did get it wrong. Sadly Sammon wasn't an isolated case as we all know That's certainly true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notts1874 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Just now, Sir Vladimir of Romanov said: That's certainly true. Neilson got this one wrong. Levein tried to talk him out of the signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Vladimir of Romanov Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 27 minutes ago, Notts1874 said: Neilson got this one wrong. Levein tried to talk him out of the signing. You're preaching to the converted here mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Why all this talk about Sammon he's history. We need a goal scoring striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notts1874 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Sir Vladimir of Romanov said: You're preaching to the converted here mate. Nae bother......stories can grow legs though ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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