sairyinthat Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Who tf calls Ireland, Southern Ireland. Me.Its where the Southern Irish hail from as opposed to the Norn irish. that help you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 1 minute ago, sairyinthat said: Me.Its where the Southern Irish hail from as opposed to the Norn irish. that help you. Ireland is well one island but partitioned ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 So this entire week or pishing about in Parliament is all for nothing, because the EU remains steadfast in saying that the deal made is no open for re-negotiation. Even if Parliament does accept May's deal now, there isn't enough time left to pass all the hundreds of bits of legislation through Parliament before we leave! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sairyinthat Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Just now, JamesM48 said: Ireland is well one island but partitioned ! And the reason a player while playing at Tynecastle fairly recently claimed sectarianism that he wasn't an irish ******* he was Norn irish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 May has repeatedly deflected criticism of her botch job by asking parliament to indicate what it IS in favour of... yet she is effectively opposing the amendment that would facilitate the answer. Grieve's indicative votes amendment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Tell me what you DO want. They can't... your party (you) voted against it. Scandalous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Back on the 13th then for more rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Yvette Cooper amendment defeated 298 to 321 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Australis Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Government have won all the votes so far in the chamber tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Hopefully brexit will be delivered. You can thank me later . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Original deal defeated by huge margin Every amendment to that deal also defeated so far So, nothing's changed since that historic defeat of the original deal. 59 days to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, Cade said: Original deal defeated by huge margin Every amendment to that deal also defeated so far So, nothing's changed since that historic defeat of the original deal. 59 days to go. It's more exciting than Christmas. And don't deny it you are loving it. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Can't get over how shite Corbyns amendment was. And the snp one was imo a disgrace . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 An utter catastro**** tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 20 minutes ago, jake said: Can't get over how shite Corbyns amendment was. And the snp one was imo a disgrace . The state of the opposition is utterly shocking ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sausage Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 (edited) Cathro would’ve managed this better. Edited January 29, 2019 by Captain Sausage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 An amendment to reject No Deal passes. Not binding but helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Just now, Dawnrazor said: The state of the opposition is utterly shocking ?? This. Can we call a vote of no confidence in the opposition this time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 20 minutes ago, jake said: Can't get over how shite Corbyns amendment was. And the snp one was imo a disgrace . Thought you would back Corbyn Significant in ensuring Brexit happens. You'll thank him later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Tory amendment to change the Backstop passed 317 to 301 Good luck with that one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 12 minutes ago, Captain Sausage said: Cathro would’ve managed this better. Eh, no he wouldn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 39 minutes ago, jake said: Hopefully brexit will be delivered. You can thank me later . Be patient, I think this is going your way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Yaaaaaay! Team GB wins! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 May says she will talk to the EU. Admits there is a limited appetite in EU to discuss / open this. We'll see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Mikey1874 said: Tory amendment to change the Backstop passed 317 to 301 Good luck with that one Over 100 MPs have been sold on her bullshit. Frightening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Corbyn seemed to say he will meet with May now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Gashauskis9 said: Over 100 MPs have been sold on her bullshit. Frightening. Well its a clear position that does reflect thinking in Tory party and DUP. So fair enough for having a go at this. Getting anything agreed with EU is another matter.. Edited January 29, 2019 by Mikey1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 No to the current deal No to no deal No to Parliament being able to block no deal Yes to removing the backstop, which the EU have explicitly ruled out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 20 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Thought you would back Corbyn Significant in ensuring Brexit happens. You'll thank him later. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Just now, Lord BJ said: Mmm it’s gone fairly well for the government tonight. Tories held up much better than labour tonight. So May is going to go back and get some change on backstop? Seems unlikely..........however, who the **** knows. Parliament says no deal is not an option, not binding but still. So an extension seems likely. Yeah. The real stuff will be end of next month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 8 minutes ago, Ulysses said: Be patient, I think this is going your way. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: May says she will talk to the EU. Admits there is a limited appetite in EU to discuss / open this. We'll see what happens. I wouldn't rule anything out. Mind you, it'll be tricky. The UK maintained that there were arrangements that could be put in place to avoid a hard border, but wouldn't make suggestions as to what they would be despite repeated requests from the EU 27. The backstop was designed to deal with that, and deal with UK concerns to avoid something it considered worse. Now the UK is asking the EU 27 to offer suggestions as to what alternative arrangements can be put in place. You couldn't make it up, really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 1 hour ago, sairyinthat said: Part of the majority live with it. Bit like the greens at Holyrood then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Moonbeams. Unicorns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 "notwithstanding what has been said tonight" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 They're ****ing deluded. The whole lot of them. Grayling on TV now talking directly from his ringpiece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: Moonbeams. Unicorns. That patter is pish. Just my opinion . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Just now, The Mighty Thor said: They're ****ing deluded. The whole lot of them. Grayling on TV now talking directly from his ringpiece. That patter is quality. Just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: We wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Ulysses said: We wait and see. 8 weeks . 8 long times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, jake said: That patter is pish. Just my opinion . 1 minute ago, jake said: That patter is quality. Just my opinion. Those opinions are patter. Just my pish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboelite Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 11 minutes ago, Lord BJ said: Mmm it’s gone fairly well for the government tonight. Tories held up much better than labour tonight. So May is going to go back and get some change on backstop? Seems unlikely..........however, who the **** knows. Parliament says no deal is not an option, not binding but still. So an extension seems likely. Except didnt they knock back the amendment for an extension ?? So we are going back to discuss something that the EU has said isnt up for discussion. Well this will end well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwindonJambo Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 31 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: The state of the opposition is utterly shocking ?? And because of just how utterly shocking they are, the government get away with being mediocre at best. Hopefully there will be some appetite to negotiate from the EU. With 59 days left, it's now down to who blinks first. The pound's just taken a wee dunt btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Australis Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 (edited) In one of the votes, tonight MP's rejected a move to delay Brexit day Does that mean at the current time we will leave on the 29th of March as I believe no deal was the default position if the European union stick to their position that there will be no more talks especially over the backstop? Looks like May is going to be told not to bother with her new proposals. From the BBC website tonight MPs have voted against a proposal to delay Brexit in order to prevent the UK leaving without a deal. The amendment had been put forward by Labour MP Yvette Cooper, but was rejected by 23 votes. Edited January 29, 2019 by Australis...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 1 minute ago, SwindonJambo said: And because of just how utterly shocking they are, the government get away with being mediocre at best. Hopefully there will be some appetite to negotiate from the EU. With 59 days left, it's now down to who blinks first. The pound's just taken a wee dunt btw. I find it funny that people don't seem to grasp that this brinkmanship goes on to in every deal being struck from buying a car to this, I understand the magnitude of these negotiations but that's what they are, the principles are the same, neither should or would be a expected to reveal what they're actually willing to accept, the EU seem to wait untill the last moments to sign off on anything, neither side wants a no deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 "The EU is just playing games, they'll budge!" They haven't moved a single millimeter in two years. The UK has been all over the shop since day one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 7 minutes ago, Australis...... said: In one of the votes, tonight MP's rejected a move to delay Brexit day Does that mean at the current time we will leave on the 29th of March as I believe no deal was the default position if the European union stick to their position that there will be no more talks especially over the backstop? Looks like May is going to be told not to bother with her new proposals. From the BBC website tonight MPs have voted against a proposal to delay Brexit in order to prevent the UK leaving without a deal. The amendment had been put forward by Labour MP Yvette Cooper, but was rejected by 23 votes. At present No Deal is where we heading. But there is time for more votes to stop it. Not anything final tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costanza Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 So the engineered no deal where we can blame it on the EU is a strong favourite now. Whilst this is going on, the pound is falling, business are spending millions on trying to mitigate a no deal or making plans to leave, reservists are being put on standby and military bases stockpiling food, fuel and ammunition. Hope everyone is stockpiling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Costanza said: Hope everyone is stockpiling. Already started. Tonight was the start of getting the frozen veg in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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