General Election

[Space Mackerel]

you only stop watching MSM to come on here and spout a loada pish, keep up the great work

Here's Tory voting reaths who will be quoting Tory lies for the foreseeable future :-/

[Ron Burgundy]

Any decent totty in The Sun today Spacey?

[reaths17]

Here's Tory voting reaths who will be quoting Tory lies for the foreseeable future :-/

I never voted, I didn't believe a word any politician said so had no desire to vote for a liar.

 

aren't you the one that cant see the light for the huge portfolio your buried under, how more capitalist can you get, c'mon spaced oots blues 

[Space Mackerel]

I never voted, I didn't believe a word any politician said so had no desire to vote for a liar.

 

aren't you the one that cant see the light for the huge portfolio your buried under, how more capitalist can you get, c'mon spaced oots blues

So you come on here and bump your gums about politics then don't even vote

 

You are as bad as some of these posters on the Terrace who watch 10 mins of Hearts games highlights on Sportsscene then wade in with all their shite.

 

 

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[AlimOzturk]

So you come on here and bump your gums about politics then don't even vote

 

You are as bad as some of these posters on the Terrace who watch 10 mins of Hearts games highlights on Sportsscene then wade in with all their shite.

 

 

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Not voting is almost as bad as voting Tory.

 

Almost.

[Victorian]

A lot of Tories, senior ones inc, seem to be making the manifesto the fall guy for all their failings. In a way that seems to suggest the manifesto created itself. An unstoppable, autonomous being that ruined them.

 

The truth is that May and her inner clique of advisors created the manifesto. Cabinet secretaries of state had very little or no input. Some only found out about policy decisions when the manifesto was released.

 

The advisors are gone. The manifesto is being blamed. Who's next for the chopping block? The ****ing Downing St cat?

[Pans Jambo]

A lot of Tories, senior ones inc, seem to be making the manifesto the fall guy for all their failings. In a way that seems to suggest the manifesto created itself. An unstoppable, autonomous being that ruined them.

 

The truth is that May and her inner clique of advisors created the manifesto. Cabinet secretaries of state had very little or no input. Some only found out about policy decisions when the manifesto was released.

 

The advisors are gone. The manifesto is being blamed. Who's next for the chopping block? The ******* Downing St cat?

Acid bath the lot of em I say...

[Thunderstruck]

Acid bath the lot of em I say...

I hope you got your money back from the Charm School.

[Rudy T]

A lot of Tories, senior ones inc, seem to be making the manifesto the fall guy for all their failings. In a way that seems to suggest the manifesto created itself. An unstoppable, autonomous being that ruined them.

 

The truth is that May and her inner clique of advisors created the manifesto. Cabinet secretaries of state had very little or no input. Some only found out about policy decisions when the manifesto was released.

 

The advisors are gone. The manifesto is being blamed. Who's next for the chopping block? The ******* Downing St cat?

Corbyn and Tory Arrogance are too blame he completely blindsided them with his manifesto and his ability to actually talk!

 

They've got Sturgeon and indyref2 to thank for just about holding onto power with the vote here increasing.

 

They got what they deserved.

[reaths17]

So you come on here and bump your gums about politics then don't even vote

 

You are as bad as some of these posters on the Terrace who watch 10 mins of Hearts games highlights on Sportsscene then wade in with all their shite.

 

 

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that spacy the capitalist watching more main stream TV, between here, WOS and the TV you really need to get a life.

[Pans Jambo]

I hope you got your money back from the Charm School.

Nope but I hear they have refunded your clown classes.

[Seymour M Hersh]

Any decent totty in The Sun today Spacey?

 

He's retired hasn't he?

[doctor jambo]

Who is it that loves bringing up indy?

It may be on the back burner but its not going anywhere.

THATS what the yoons & lizard voters are really afraid of.

I welcome a left leaning socialist Labour to batter the lizards into submission. Be better for society as a whole but how long would that ride last before the in-fighting starts & the Blairites call for Corbyn's head again? Then the lizards are back, then the Scots reject them again, then indy is pushed to the fore once more.

 

The FM has went dark on it but hey, was she not 'told' she should shut up about it & 'get on with the day job'?

Now that she has the MSM (& some on here) are ones continually banging on about it.

 

What are you/they keekin about???

Could we stop with all the class warfare keek please?

Even some sore of basic acknowledgement that the money to fund your socialist fantasies will come from those you so despise would be progress.

One think as sure as not is that the left is utterly incapable of paying for what it wants itself

[jambogemz]

Not voting is almost as bad as voting Tory.

 

Almost.

Really?

 

Perhaps, like me, some people are sick and tired of all the shite that they decided to give it a miss this time round.

 

There is no decent debate to be had anywhere either and this thread is an absolute car crash.

[Pans Jambo]

Could we stop with all the class warfare keek please?

Even some sore of basic acknowledgement that the money to fund your socialist fantasies will come from those you so despise would be progress.

One think as sure as not is that the left is utterly incapable of paying for what it wants itself

That'll be because the right is far too busy giving away billions to billionaires and funding nuclear bombs and foreign wars.

 

Theres plenty of money sloshing around if they concentrate on what us human beings actually need instead of worrying about wiping out the planet of following Trump into foreign wars that has heehaw to do with us.

 

Fantasies indeed. & you claim to work for the NHS???

[Space Mackerel]

Any decent totty in The Sun today Spacey?

[Sraman]

Could we stop with all the class warfare keek please?

Even some sore of basic acknowledgement that the money to fund your socialist fantasies will come from those you so despise would be progress.

One think as sure as not is that the left is utterly incapable of paying for what it wants itself

 

 

What an absolutely crass post. You say to stop the class war keek (sic) then go on to state, in a round about way, that your class isn't prepared to pay a few extra shekels for "socialist fantasies". Meanwhile, at the other end of the "class war", the poor, elderly, disabled and infirm are paying for your right wing utopia with their lives.

[Maroon Sailor]

 

Any decent totty in The Sun today Spacey?

She's got a face like a totty

[doctor jambo]

That'll be because the right is far too busy giving away billions to billionaires and funding nuclear bombs and foreign wars.

 

Theres plenty of money sloshing around if they concentrate on what us human beings actually need instead of worrying about wiping out the planet of following Trump into foreign wars that has heehaw to do with us.

 

Fantasies indeed. & you claim to work for the NHS???

"need versus want" indeed.......

sadly neither socialist and capitalist models do not recognise this.

What do we actually "need" ? that the state should provide?

Most things that I have I don't need- TV, sky, wine, a microwave , a toaster, 3 pairs of shoes for my one pair of feet, a washing machine ( I can do it by hand- the machine is a luxury)

hell, at uni we didn't even have central heating, shared rooms and had no TV. nor did we have a couch-  all luxuries ....

[doctor jambo]

What an absolutely crass post. You say to stop the class war keek (sic) then go on to state, in a round about way, that your class isn't prepared to pay a few extra shekels for "socialist fantasies". Meanwhile, at the other end of the "class war", the poor, elderly, disabled and infirm are paying for your right wing utopia with their lives.

are they?

and its not my class

Hate to burst your bubble but I'm from working class stock,

[Sraman]

are they?

and its not my class

Hate to burst your bubble but I'm from working class stock,

 

How quickly we forget our roots.

[doctor jambo]

How quickly we forget our roots.

Not really-

my working class roots were grafting, self reliance and certainly my gran would rather have been dead than to ask for a handout- too much pride.

Didn't have much, so went without.

Couldn't afford something - saved for it or didn't get it.

Never smoked or drank- as it was expensive

Never been abroad ( apart from with granda the HGV driver on his long distance trips before Newlands went under)

Wife the same- came from single parent family on council estate.

Her mum went out to work. brought the kids up right and they both got degrees.

That is my working class

Not sure what yours is......

I too can look up at the big mansions and Maldives holidays, and I'm aware that if I want them I could get them, but don't want to see them taken off others so I could get more I have not earned

Its not Zimbabwe...

[Jambo-Jimbo]

A lot of Tories, senior ones inc, seem to be making the manifesto the fall guy for all their failings. In a way that seems to suggest the manifesto created itself. An unstoppable, autonomous being that ruined them.

 

The truth is that May and her inner clique of advisors created the manifesto. Cabinet secretaries of state had very little or no input. Some only found out about policy decisions when the manifesto was released.

 

The advisors are gone. The manifesto is being blamed. Who's next for the chopping block? The ******* Downing St cat?

 

You could be right, I have it on good authority that Larry's days are numbered, seems he's getting quite good at catching rats and some in number 10 are getting a bit concerned at that.

[manaliveits105]

Krankies got any policies yet ?   

[jack D and coke]

Really?

 

Perhaps, like me, some people are sick and tired of all the shite that they decided to give it a miss this time round.

 

There is no decent debate to be had anywhere either and this thread is an absolute car crash.

Agreed.

Although I occasionally dip in and out of the political threads I have no idea how people have the energy for the same arguments to go round and round in circles for literally months on end.

[Space Mackerel]

Agreed.

Although I occasionally dip in and out of the political threads I have no idea how people have the energy for the same arguments to go round and round in circles for literally months on end.

It's good fun debunking the slavering Yoons on here though [emoji106]

[Space Mackerel]

LULZ

 

[Mikey1874]

My prediction is 12 months till another election.

 

The DUP will pull out due to a catalogue of govenment failings identified in the initial report to the London fire.

 

There will be an election and...

[SwindonJambo]

My prediction is 12 months till another election.

 

The DUP will pull out due to a catalogue of govenment failings identified in the initial report to the London fire.

 

There will be an election and...

..probably another hung parliament and rinse and repeat

[Pans Jambo]

"need versus want" indeed.......

sadly neither socialist and capitalist models do not recognise this.

What do we actually "need" ? that the state should provide?

Most things that I have I don't need- TV, sky, wine, a microwave , a toaster, 3 pairs of shoes for my one pair of feet, a washing machine ( I can do it by hand- the machine is a luxury)

hell, at uni we didn't even have central heating, shared rooms and had no TV. nor did we have a couch- all luxuries ....

No surprise with that answer. Dripping with contempt for your fellow human being.

Oh I dont know, how about enough food to eat so you dont have to visit a food bank, a decent home where your not taxed for having a 2nd bedroom, some dignity when you actually need help, jobs that pay more than the minimum wage etc.?

 

Its no coincidence that Billionaires have grown at the same time as the chronic poor and almost as fast since the Austerity programme has been introduced.

 

Lizards. Bloody lizards. Eff You as long as I'm alright Jack! Thats the Tories.

[Trapper John McIntyre]

No surprise with that answer. Dripping with contempt for your fellow human being.

Oh I dont know, how about enough food to eat so you dont have to visit a food bank, a decent home where your not taxed for having a 2nd bedroom, some dignity when you actually need help, jobs that pay more than the minimum wage etc.?

 

Its no coincidence that Billionaires have grown at the same time as the chronic poor and almost as fast since the Austerity programme has been introduced.

 

Lizards. Bloody lizards. Eff You as long as I'm alright Jack! Thats the Tories.

It must be exhausting to be so caring and humane.

[Captain Sausage]

No surprise with that answer. Dripping with contempt for your fellow human being.

Oh I dont know, how about enough food to eat so you dont have to visit a food bank, a decent home where your not taxed for having a 2nd bedroom, some dignity when you actually need help, jobs that pay more than the minimum wage etc.?

 

Its no coincidence that Billionaires have grown at the same time as the chronic poor and almost as fast since the Austerity programme has been introduced.

 

Lizards. Bloody lizards. Eff You as long as I'm alright Jack! Thats the Tories.

Is calling people lizards, and telling them to **** off, not showing contempt for your fellow human beings?

 

Ironic. And moronic. In equal measures.

[Boris]

..probably another hung parliament and rinse and repeat

Friend messaged me earlier saying a poll showed if a general election tomorrow Labour would have a 59 seat majority. Sorry no link or source, other than my pal.

[Guess The Crowd]

https://t.co/Vp1p6XYnfr?ssr=true

[Trapper John McIntyre]

Friend messaged me earlier saying a poll showed if a general election tomorrow Labour would have a 59 seat majority. Sorry no link or source, other than my pal.

With hopefully an SNP wipeout, I'd tolerate some of that action.

[JamboX2]

My prediction is 12 months till another election.

 

The DUP will pull out due to a catalogue of govenment failings identified in the initial report to the London fire.

 

There will be an election and...

Nah. Good Friday Agreement will come before all that.

 

That or May out and an October election

[SwindonJambo]

Friend messaged me earlier saying a poll showed if a general election tomorrow Labour would have a 59 seat majority. Sorry no link or source, other than my pal.

I could believe it. Are you aware of this Twitter Account, Boris- Britain elects ? Seems fairly neutral and lots of interesting stuff on there.

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/britainelects?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

[JamboX2]

https://t.co/Vp1p6XYnfr?ssr=true

Cringe worthy pish.

[SwindonJambo]

Nah. Good Friday Agreement will come before all that.

That or May out and an October election

May is a lame duck. I've no idea who'd replace her from within the Tories though. Another election later this year has to be a good bet, I agree.

[Boris]

With hopefully an SNP wipeout, I'd tolerate some of that action.

Id suspect that the SNP would lose seats, but not near a wipeout.

 

I'm not in the country at the moment so just getting reports of the unrest in London, but I can't help but feel that something is changing.

 

Perhaps a simple slogan such as "For the many, not the few" resonates in these times.

 

I voted yes, and probably would do again given the chance, but in the meantime I would welcome a Corbyn led Labour and the manifesto it proposed.

 

I'd like to see that manifesto go further and tackle the inequities within the (unwritten) British constitution.

[JamboX2]

May is a lame duck. I've no idea who'd replace her from within the Tories though. Another election later this year has to be a good bet, I agree.

Boris v Corbyn imo.

 

Corbyn may squeak that fight.

[Trapper John McIntyre]

Id suspect that the SNP would lose seats, but not near a wipeout.

 

I'm not in the country at the moment so just getting reports of the unrest in London, but I can't help but feel that something is changing.

 

Perhaps a simple slogan such as "For the many, not the few" resonates in these times.

 

I voted yes, and probably would do again given the chance, but in the meantime I would welcome a Corbyn led Labour and the manifesto it proposed.

 

I'd like to see that manifesto go further and tackle the inequities within the (unwritten) British constitution.

 

Boris, you're smart enough to know that Independence is utter horseshit and won't do a single thing to help working class Scots. The SNP are a horrible, worthless, self indulgent distraction to the real issues of ordinary people. It's a pipe dream, a fantasy, utter manure.

 

Me and some mates discussed Corbyn a couple of years ago and what the effect it would have up here. Frankly we were in despair over a  cult taking over Scotland which paid lip service to social justice in order to attract the gullible. And Labour getting a real dyed in the wool old Trot which so  many of the 'Labour left me I didn't leave Labour' brigade were screaming for hadn't made any impact. We thought we were well and truly fecked.

 

I do not believe Corbyn and McDonnell are fit and proper people to run a local darts club never mind the country. But if they can galvanise the Labour vote, get people thinking about real social justice that can be paid for without bankrupting the country and in effect hurting the very people they profess to care about then all to the good. I want the distraction of the SNP wiped out so we can get back to proper choices for Scotland and for Britain.

[Trapper John McIntyre]

Boris v Corbyn imo.

 

Corbyn may squeak that fight.

 

I'm afraid people would vote even for Boris to keep out Corbyn. The Tories got 42% of a large turnout with a lame duck leader to keep the old Trot out and they didn't even get much of a UKIP dividend while Corbyn got the young out at last.

 

If Labour are to win, they need a truly credible leader.

[SwindonJambo]

I'm afraid people would vote even for Boris to keep out Corbyn. The Tories got 42% of a large turnout with a lame duck leader to keep the old Trot out and they didn't even get much of a UKIP dividend while Corbyn got the young out at last.

 

If Labour are to win, they need a truly credible leader.

I agree, I think enough people will bite their lip and force Boris over the line. Corbyn and O'Donnell have far too shady a past for me and the thought of them being in charge terrifies me. I don't trust them on security and I think they'd get the public Finances into an even bigger mess than now.

 

Any one of Kier Starmer, Chukka Ummuna or Dan Jarvis would get me voting Labour. Not that I would ever vote Tory - I never have nor ever will. Grew up in Lanarkshire under Thatcher so put off for life.

[deesidejambo]

My prediction is 12 months till another election.

 

The DUP will pull out due to a catalogue of govenment failings identified in the initial report to the London fire.

 

There will be an election and...

And?

 

Labour will win with a landslide.

 

Tories. Feck d. Power corrupts

 

SNP. Wiped out in Central Scotland. Nicolas bubble burst right in her wee pus.

 

 

Tick.

 

 

 

 

 

Tock.

[Geoff Kilpatrick]

Says the hypocrite who apparently voted for the SNP.

I think he was taking the piss, just to clarify for you.

[JamboX2]

I agree, I think enough people will bite their lip and force Boris over the line. Corbyn and O'Donnell have far too shady a past for me and the thought of them being in charge terrifies me. I don't trust them on security and I think they'd get the public Finances into an even bigger mess than now.

 

Any one of Kier Starmer, Chukka Ummuna or Dan Jarvis would get me voting Labour. Not that I would ever vote Tory - I never have nor ever will. Grew up in Lanarkshire under Thatcher so put off for life.

Issue I have with that hypothesis is they'd lose Labour votes and gain us little. It's a reverse back to Miliband and a squeeze by the Tories.

 

I think for many Corbyn has detoxified himself. His economic position is based on the post-war idea of Keynesian economics and investing in infrastructure, green energy, housing and research and development. It's designed to spur on economic growth. Not continue this death by 1000 cuts austerity.

 

This tower fire and adherence to the ? before people is a result of years of austerity and the mindset it creates.

 

I don't see in Ummuna or Cooper a way forward from there.

[Boris]

Boris, you're smart enough to know that Independence is utter horseshit and won't do a single thing to help working class Scots. The SNP are a horrible, worthless, self indulgent distraction to the real issues of ordinary people. It's a pipe dream, a fantasy, utter manure.

 

Me and some mates discussed Corbyn a couple of years ago and what the effect it would have up here. Frankly we were in despair over a cult taking over Scotland which paid lip service to social justice in order to attract the gullible. And Labour getting a real dyed in the wool old Trot which so many of the 'Labour left me I didn't leave Labour' brigade were screaming for hadn't made any impact. We thought we were well and truly fecked.

 

I do not believe Corbyn and McDonnell are fit and proper people to run a local darts club never mind the country. But if they can galvanise the Labour vote, get people thinking about real social justice that can be paid for without bankrupting the country and in effect hurting the very people they profess to care about then all to the good. I want the distraction of the SNP wiped out so we can get back to proper choices for Scotland and for Britain.

Independence was attractive post 2010 election in that it was a genuine alternative.

 

Corbyn is, Imo, a breath of fresh air. I have always liked his politics, but was not sure he had leadership ability. In the GE campaign he played a blinder, Imo.

 

Labour seems to have grasped that and now they have to build on it a progress.

 

The SNP won't disappear... How future Westminster govt approach the constitution could aid that though. Again all Imo.

[Mikey1874]

Nah. Good Friday Agreement will come before all that.

 

That or May out and an October election

So how do you see May being forced into an October election then?

 

My point is about the more honourable side to Northern Ireland politics and in particular the DUP. I say the DUP while happy to accept the extra money for N.Ireland and the general boost for the "poor hard done by unionists", they will choose honour and ditch May as a result a failings in managing the Grenfell fire. Just how I see the future.

 

They can also use that to strengthen own position in N.Ireland. Reality of the power sharing agreement would also tend to them pulling out. Get the money first though.

[Geoff Kilpatrick]

So how do you see May being forced into an October election then?

 

My point is about the more honourable side to Northern Ireland politics and in particular the DUP. I say the DUP while happy to accept the extra money for N.Ireland and the general boost for the "poor hard done by unionists", they will choose honour and ditch May as a result a failings in managing the Grenfell fire. Just how I see the future.

 

They can also use that to strengthen own position in N.Ireland. Reality of the power sharing agreement would also tend to them pulling out. Get the money first though.

 

The DUP won't interfere in who leads the Tories as there are enough problems for Arlene Foster over the same thing. That's why the Assembly collapsed.