More Tory lies

[maroonlegions]

There is absolutely no chance of Labour winning.  It'd be a wasted vote.

 

The best thing to do is vote SNP en masse which leaves Dugdale no option but to stand down thus bringing in a pro/sympathetic-independence supporter.  May will then continue her march towards the reintroduction of fox hunting, abolition of human-rights, continued sanctions on the poor/disabled and then elderly.  It will leave voters in Scotland with two options - independence or a lifetime of nasty Tories.

 

Lesser of two evils, strategic voting. Could do a job.

[maroonlegions]

Yooooou what? Where's Deeside? Are you there??????

 

 

 When they say "its vital to help the industry maximise these" , what they actually mean is .." its vital we get as much cash as we can for all the share holders".  lol; 

[maroonlegions]

Agreed.  However, the difference in the polls translates to a massive majority for them, people in numbers will not vote for Corbyn.

 

If a portion of Scotland votes for Labour rather than SNP to 'keep the Tories out', then it strengthens the union and provides Kezia (who is absolutely useless) impetus to carry on as leader.

 

Scotland has been told to vote Labour for generations as the only way to 'keep the Tories out.'  Never worked when we voted Labour en masse, they'll always get in on the back of English votes.

 

Having a horrible Tory government in place with an absolute majority to do as they wish is what will provide independence.

 

 I have always held the notion that it will be Tories like May who could very well be responsible for the people of Scotland turning to the SNP  and voting for independence to get away from  vile Tory Draconian polices up here.

 

There is still a general hatred of the Tories up here and if Scots do not see a strong and viable challenge to the Tories from Labour then they will vote for a party who are a strong and viable challenger. 

 

Oh the fecking irony for the Scots Tories up here if the above came to pass. 

Edited May 13, 2017 by maroonlegions

[deesidejambo]

 When they say "its vital to help the industry maximise these" , what they actually mean is .." its vital we get as much cash as we can for all the share holders".  lol; 

For Spacey.

 

The official OGA Reserves for the UK, based on audited analysis submitted from the Operators and used for fiscal projections are 6.2 billion boe.     Link available to the detailed reserves tables if you want it Spacey, but you wont like the answer.  Or more exactly, you wont understand it.

 

The fiscal revenue to the Govt for 2016 was negative due to the low oil price and Companies writing off decommissioning costs against tax.

 

The reason this panel is being set up is about 20 more fields have recently had cessation of production submissions sent to the OGA and the Govt need to do everything they can you avoid this or the 6.2 billion wont be achieved, hence the panel.  WoodMac current forecast is about 5 billion now.

 

The only way the Govt whether UK or Scottish can help the oil industry is even more tax breaks, but given the Govt are effectively subsidising the Industry at present then it will be unlikely.    The UK Govt could afford to subsidise the Industry but the Scottish taxpayer in the case of Indy can't.

 

So suck it up Spacey.  From the perspective of oil Reserves your Indy dream is a complete crock of garbage.

[coconut doug]

Thank you for taking time out during a Hearts match to post a lengthy response that serves to reinforce the point I was making. And, again, the ORIGINAL question avoided.

 

Are you a Hearts fan or just some cybernat infesting this Board?

I did not compose this during the match. I composed it before the match and posted it 11 minutes in .I was disturbed as people arrived to see the match. I don't have to explain myself to you though, nor do I have to prove my Hearts supporting credentials.

 

Nevertheless I will point out that I have been a Hearts supporter all my life. I do not have a second team. I reckon I have attended around 1,000 matches at Tynecastle and hundreds elsewhere. I spent at least some of my formative years in Gorgie. My family associations go back to at least the time of Bobby Walker and many members of my family are season ticket holders or regular attenders. 

 

I noticed previously that SM was challenged on the same basis. Do you have to think the same way as you do to be regarded as a PHM?

 

I'm not infesting anything btw. Your turn of phrase is quite demeaning not just to me but to many I believe. I am entitled to my views and I am entitled to express them on here. It's not me who goes on about Nazis, Paedos, Tims and the like. I don't make up obvious lies and slurs to support my prejudices. All I do is challenge some of the misrepresentations made especially when I regard them as deliberate smears.

 

I still haven't answered your question because I still don't know what you are referring to. I have pointed this out three times now.

 

You still haven't explained why you put quotation marks around words that you claimed to be mine, when you knew I had not said them.

[Thunderstruck]

I did not compose this during the match. I composed it before the match and posted it 11 minutes in .I was disturbed as people arrived to see the match. I don't have to explain myself to you though, nor do I have to prove my Hearts supporting credentials.

 

Nevertheless I will point out that I have been a Hearts supporter all my life. I do not have a second team. I reckon I have attended around 1,000 matches at Tynecastle and hundreds elsewhere. I spent at least some of my formative years in Gorgie. My family associations go back to at least the time of Bobby Walker and many members of my family are season ticket holders or regular attenders.

 

I noticed previously that SM was challenged on the same basis. Do you have to think the same way as you do to be regarded as a PHM?

 

I'm not infesting anything btw. Your turn of phrase is quite demeaning not just to me but to many I believe. I am entitled to my views and I am entitled to express them on here. It's not me who goes on about Nazis, Paedos, Tims and the like. I don't make up obvious lies and slurs to support my prejudices. All I do is challenge some of the misrepresentations made especially when I regard them as deliberate smears.

 

I still haven't answered your question because I still don't know what you are referring to. I have pointed this out three times now.

 

You still haven't explained why you put quotation marks around words that you claimed to be mine, when you knew I had not said them.

I can assure you that it wasn't so good that you couldn't have waited until the end of the match.

[Space Mackerel]

Another day, another Tory showing their true Brit Nat colours.

 

Whit are they like? [emoji849]

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/why-dont-you-f-back-10417461#ICID=sharebar_facebook

 

 

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[Hunky Dory]

Lesser of two evils, strategic voting. Could do a job.

 

Maybe, but I just think it'll send the wrong message.

[Hunky Dory]

That just isn't true.

Out of interest how many times do you think England would have had a Labour government without the Scottish vote?

 

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How many times have the tories been in power whilst Scotland overwhelmingly voted Labour?  That's what I was putting across.

[Hunky Dory]

Another day, another Tory showing their true Brit Nat colours.

 

Whit are they like? [emoji849]

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/why-dont-you-f-back-10417461#ICID=sharebar_facebook

 

 

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All the while, unionists claim that the BBC is impartial.  There was wall-to-wall coverage when Murphy was hit with an egg.  When it comes to the indiscretions of the Tories, silence...

[Space Mackerel]

So the current defence Secretary Michael Fallon used to support apartheid.

 

Whit are they like? [emoji849]

 

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2017/05/giving-up-on-honesty/

 

 

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[Space Mackerel]

Ruth Davidson getting torn to shreds on BBC 5 Live.

 

The flip flopping is something to behold.

 

https://ayerightradio.wordpress.com/2017/05/12/ruth-davidson-car-crash-interview-radio-five-live/

 

 

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[ToadKiller Dog]

Ruth Davidson getting dirty and nasty on twitter ,calling Corbyn a supporter of the IRA who wanted them to win .

What a stupid divisive and dangerous thing for a senior Scottish politician to say given the sectarian problem in parts of Scotland .

https://twitter.com/RuthDavidsonMSP/status/863663807859757056

Edited May 14, 2017 by ToadKiller Dog

[aussieh]

So Ruth, what has free prescriptions got to do with the GE?. What can Scottish Tory MPs do about free prescriptions at Westminster? It's a devolved SNP policy backed by Slab. And anyway, Thee Tories, yes the ones from England are against it. So stfu!

Edited May 15, 2017 by aussieh

[aussieh]

Ruth Davidson getting dirty and nasty on twitter ,calling Corbyn a supporter of the IRA who wanted them to win .

What a stupid divisive and dangerous thing for a senior Scottish politician to say given the sectarian problem in parts of Scotland .

https://twitter.com/RuthDavidsonMSP/status/863663807859757056

She knows fine well. With people like her about, maybe it's a good thing we didn't vote yes. You just have to read some posts and it's always the unionists(loyalists) who mention NI, partitions and the troubles. Yet they won and nothing of the sort has come the other way from us bad separatist Nazis. Go figure.

 

 

Anyway, she'll soon get too cocky(strange for a lesbian) and boom! In yer fecking face, tank boy.

[Sarah O]

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[Space Mackerel]

Strong and stable nurse strike coming up. 

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/nurses-vote-overwhelmingly-to-strike-for-first-time-ever-over-1-pay-rises-a7735451.html

[doctor jambo]

Strong and stable nurse strike coming up. 

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/nurses-vote-overwhelmingly-to-strike-for-first-time-ever-over-1-pay-rises-a7735451.html

So far we have had nurses strike, Junior Drs strike and GP's are either retiring early or emigrating

Pay and conditions seriously damaging the NHS now- I don't even know if it can be repaired

[Space Mackerel]

So far we have had nurses strike, Junior Drs strike and GP's are either retiring early or emigrating

Pay and conditions seriously damaging the NHS now- I don't even know if it can be repaired

 

 

Sure and stable austerity cuts are the reason I would've thought. 

[maroonlegions]

 

 

Its only the nasty evil lefties that want re-nationalisation but contrary to what the right-wing press and the Tories say, nationalising rail is NOT a particularly left-wing policy:

 

 

[Hunky Dory]

So far we have had nurses strike, Junior Drs strike and GP's are either retiring early or emigrating

Pay and conditions seriously damaging the NHS now- I don't even know if it can be repaired

 

It's only going to worsen when Brexit hits and recruitment further stagnates, worrying times for the NHS.

[Hunky Dory]

 

 

 

Its only the nasty evil lefties that want re-nationalisation but contrary to what the right-wing press and the Tories say, nationalising rail is NOT a particularly left-wing policy:

 

 

 

 

I can testify to that, costs 15euros to get directly to the airport from where I am in southern Belgium (1hr15mins away).  Always on time, every 30 minutes, never found myself wanting a seat and the trains are always spotless.

[maroonlegions]

What gets me is the fact that May has point blanked refused to have an open debate with the Labour leader and other leaders of other parties, why??

 

People who usually go down that road are either afraid or  are hiding something that they know is unpopular in its content.

 

Or they do not want to be held accountable , in her case the accountability of the 7 years of the polices of this present  Tory government of which she was the home secretary.

 

Was she responsible for failing to upgrade the security on  NHS computers at the cost of saving  ?5 million  from the NHS in light of the recent cyber attacks??

 

She is running scared of any kind of open public debate outside prime-minister"s  question time in the House of Commons.

 

What or why  is she so scared of in regards to an open  public TV debate??

 

Why hide if you have nothing to hide??

 

 

 

Jeremy Corbyn asks the PM a question during the ITV 'Leaders Live' chat on Facebook

Time well wasted

THEPOKE.CO.UK

 

 

 

 

[Bowmans_Boot]

 

What gets me is the fact that May has point blanked refused to have an open debate with the Labour leader and other leaders of other parties, why??

I think she knows very well that public debates arent her forte and she is so far ahead that she would only lose by taking part.

 

Ruth Davidson, however, generally puts her points across very well in these eg the referendum debate. (Made that point so I am not being anti Tory)

[Thunderstruck]

 

 

 

Its only the nasty evil lefties that want re-nationalisation but contrary to what the right-wing press and the Tories say, nationalising rail is NOT a particularly left-wing policy:

 

 

Several of those in your list are companies run on a commercial basis and where the entire shareholding is in the hands of the government. They are companies that operate along commercial lines and invest abroad - in, for example, Abellio in Scotland as a subsidiary of Nederlandse Spoorwegen.

 

Somewhat different to the image of nationalised companies that sits in many minds.

[Space Mackerel]

What gets me is the fact that May has point blanked refused to have an open debate with the Labour leader and other leaders of other parties, why??

 

People who usually go down that road are either afraid or are hiding something that they know is unpopular in its content.

 

Or they do not want to be held accountable , in her case the accountability of the 7 years of the polices of this present Tory government of which she was the home secretary.

 

Was she responsible for failing to upgrade the security on NHS computers at the cost of saving ?5 million from the NHS in light of the recent cyber attacks??

 

She is running scared of any kind of open public debate outside prime-minister"s question time in the House of Commons.

 

What or why is she so scared of in regards to an open public TV debate??

 

Why hide if you have nothing to hide??

 

 

Jeremy Corbyn asks the PM a question during the ITV 'Leaders Live' chat on Facebook

Time well wasted

THEPOKE.CO.UK

 

 

 

The answers obvious, she would get absolutely annihilated, she is an absolute disaster at PMQ's.

 

She is going to get steam rollered at the Brexit talks by the other 27 EU leaders.

[Space Mackerel]

 

[maroonlegions]

May must really believe that no one is paying attention to what she has done in the past or what she has voted for in the past.

 

Her recent raving about workers rights must look like a very contradictory lie with added horseshite too.

 

This woman is treating the British public with such arrogance and disrespect that its bordering on  psychopathic   levels of bare faced lying or she is just a shite liar..lol; 

 

 

  Tories & workers rights? Here's Theresa May voting for Trade Union Bill to cut workers rights #canttrustawordshesays https://goo.gl/PazmvR 

 

 

 

 

                                                                                                                       

[Hunky Dory]

Is there any anger being displayed in Scotland at the 9 tory councillors who have decided to stand down and run for the GE?

 

What a bunch of scheming scumbags, triggering a by-election before they've even taken their seats.

 

It only goes to show the lack of depth the party has at the top level.

[jambogemz]

Is there any anger being displayed in Scotland at the 9 tory councillors who have decided to stand down and run for the GE?

 

What a bunch of scheming scumbags, triggering a by-election before they've even taken their seats.

 

It only goes to show the lack of depth the party has at the top level.

Where has this been announced mate?

[Hunky Dory]

Where has this been announced mate?

 

It's not been announced, that's probably why you haven't came across the information, I read it in an article.  I've spent the last 10 minutes trying to locate but have failed so far.  Will keep looking.

 

If you look at their candidates for the GE, you'll also find their names on the ballot for the recent council elections, many of whom won seats.

[deesidejambo]

It's not been announced, that's probably why you haven't came across the information, I read it in an article.  I've spent the last 10 minutes trying to locate but have failed so far.  Will keep looking.

 

If you look at their candidates for the GE, you'll also find their names on the ballot for the recent council elections, many of whom won seats.

I would be keen to see this, and also if its the case whether other parties are doing the same.

 

If someone has stood for Council and not been elected then no issue, but if someone is elected as councillor and is going for parliament as well, then thats not good, unless in isolated specific cases.

[aussieh]

I would be keen to see this, and also if its the case whether other parties are doing the same.

 

If someone has stood for Council and not been elected then no issue, but if someone is elected as councillor and is going for parliament as well, then thats not good, unless in isolated specific cases.

Don't know about that. But what about James Heappey? Nice man!

[Hunky Dory]

I couldn't find that article, although I definitely read it somewhere.  What I've done is locate the tory list of candidates for the 2017 GE and compare them with existing current counselors in each local authority.  This process took about 2 hours and I know that not all of the information is correct as there are 9 who have decided to stand, I have managed to accrue more than that.  If someone has more time, they can go through them individually to confirm.

 

The following are MSPs standing in the GE:

 

Ross Thomson ? MSP NE Scotland

 

John Lamont ? MSP ERB

 

The following are counsellors standing in the GE:

 

Gary Mulvaney - Helensburgh Central

 

Straun Mackie - Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross

 

Sheila Mechan ? East Dunbartonshire

 

 

Mark McGeever ?South Lanarkshire

 

 

Katie Mackie ? Musselborough

 

 

Stephanie Smith ?Liberton/Gilmerton ward

 

 

Callum Laidlaw ? Portobello/Craigmillar

 

 

Thomas Kerr ? Shettleston

 

 

Colin Clark ? Aberdeen

 

 

David Wilson ? Inverclyde

 

 

Dave Dempsey ? Kirkcaldy

 

 

Poppy Cobett ? Clydesdale West

 

 

Charles Kennedy ? West Lothian

 

 

Damian Timson ? West Lothian

 

 

Douglas Ross ? Moray

 

 

Meghan Gallacher ? Motherwell West

 

Tony Miklinski ? Cupar

 

 

Ann Le Blond ? South Lanarkshire

[deesidejambo]

 

I couldn't find that article, although I definitely read it somewhere.  What I've done is locate the tory list of candidates for the 2017 GE and compare them with existing current counselors in each local authority.  This process took about 2 hours and I know that not all of the information is correct as there are 9 who have decided to stand, I have managed to accrue more than that.  If someone has more time, they can go through them individually to confirm.

 

The following are MSPs standing in the GE:

 

Ross Thomson ? MSP NE Scotland

 

John Lamont ? MSP ERB

 

The following are counsellors standing in the GE:

 

Gary Mulvaney - Helensburgh Central

 

Straun Mackie - Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross

 

Sheila Mechan ? East Dunbartonshire

 

 

Mark McGeever ?South Lanarkshire

 

 

Katie Mackie ? Musselborough

 

 

Stephanie Smith ?Liberton/Gilmerton ward

 

 

Callum Laidlaw ? Portobello/Craigmillar

 

 

Thomas Kerr ? Shettleston

 

 

Colin Clark ? Aberdeen

 

 

David Wilson ? Inverclyde

 

 

Dave Dempsey ? Kirkcaldy

 

 

Poppy Cobett ? Clydesdale West

 

 

Charles Kennedy ? West Lothian

 

 

Damian Timson ? West Lothian

 

 

Douglas Ross ? Moray

 

 

Meghan Gallacher ? Motherwell West

 

Tony Miklinski ? Cupar

 

 

Ann Le Blond ? South Lanarkshire

 

Thanks.  What about the other parties?

[Hunky Dory]

Thanks.  What about the other parties?

 

No idea.  I feel dirty looking at tories for 2hrs, will refrain from doing the same for labour/lib dems.

 

I'm surprised that no newspapers or media outlets have picked up on this so far, might get some prominence before the election.

[Space Mackerel]

It's not been announced, that's probably why you haven't came across the information, I read it in an article. I've spent the last 10 minutes trying to locate but have failed so far. Will keep looking.

 

If you look at their candidates for the GE, you'll also find their names on the ballot for the recent council elections, many of whom won seats.

WoS did an article on it.

[Hunky Dory]

WoS did an article on it.

 

It never originated on his site, came across an article that talked of the individuals in detail.  Sure I'll find it.

[aussieh]

And there's me thinking, that during official party manifesto day, the opposing parties don't campaign. Oh well, Mrs May(funny how everyone else is referred to by their surname) doesn't seem to know. Typical Tory rule breaks, backed by the EBC.

 

 

Nice manifesto though from Labour, quite SNPish.

[maroonlegions]

Is this why May refused to take part in a Leader debate on TV, or face Corbyn in such a one on one debate??

 

 

 

The problem with lies is that they are prone to change or that they ca be hard to defend if they come under intense scrutiny 

 

 

 

Facebook had a nasty surprise for Theresa May when she decided to lie repeatedly live on air [VIDEO]

On Monday 15 May Theresa May took part in her first ever ITV Leaders Live Facebook question and answer session. And, judging by the public?s reaction on?

THECANARY.CO

 

 

[Space Mackerel]

Strong and stable deflection of the highest order today from Maggie May.

 

[deesidejambo]

It never originated on his site, came across an article that talked of the individuals in detail.  Sure I'll find it.

First thanks for doing your own research as opposed to regurgitating WoS.

 

But you focus on Tories and Lab/Libdem.   Remember that to be balanced research its better if you look at all the parties, and that includes SNP.

[deesidejambo]

Strong and stable deflection of the highest order today from Maggie May.

 

What was she supposed to say?    Voldemort?

[Space Mackerel]

What was she supposed to say? Voldemort?

Instead of jumping in with both feet, try and picture the scene, the context of the question and how all questions are vetted before hand, as has been reported over numerous media platforms. Edited May 16, 2017 by Space Mackerel

[deesidejambo]

Instead of jumping in with both feet, try and picture the scene, the context of the question and how all questions are vetted before hand, as has been reported over numerous media platforms.

So.

 

What was she supposed to say?

[Space Mackerel]

So.

 

What was she supposed to say?

Whoooooooooooooooosh! Right over your head!

 

What about strong and stable Quidditch?

[deesidejambo]

Whoooooooooooooooosh! Right over your head!

 

What about strong and stable Quidditch?

I wonder what Nicola would have said if asked?

 

Dobby?

[Space Mackerel]

I wonder what Nicola would have said if asked?

 

Dobby?

You should Tweet your dear Yoon leader JK Rowling, she's got a gob on her and find out.

[Space Mackerel]

Ra Gers Tory Cooncilor can't be bothered doing the day job.

 

http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/general-election/snp-criticise-tory-msp-for-missing-another-holyrood-meeting-1-4447422

 

Notice the deliberate typo in the subheading from the Hootsman

Edited May 16, 2017 by Space Mackerel

[JamboX2]

No idea. I feel dirty looking at tories for 2hrs, will refrain from doing the same for labour/lib dems.

 

I'm surprised that no newspapers or media outlets have picked up on this so far, might get some prominence before the election.

Jim Eadie is standing in Edinburgh South. He's an MSP for the SNP. Same betrayal?

 

As its a snap poll the parties generally rush pre-vetted persons into seats to contest them under the time constraints.

 

Given the SNP are defending 54 seats there's less scope for it. But in Shetland their sole councillor, recently elected, is standing against Carmichael for the Orkney and Shetland seat and former MSP candidate for Edinburgh West Toni Giugliani is standing.

 

Patrick Harvie is currently up for election in Glasgow North also.

 

Done across all parties. Don't get your seethe and anger at all this.