briever Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 Immigrants get £40 per week living expenses once they are accepted into the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 Rishi bounce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 54 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Immigrants get £40 per week living expenses once they are accepted into the system. And not allowed to work unless they then apply for and gain settled status. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Reynolds Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 33 minutes ago, Cade said: And not allowed to work unless they then apply for and gain settled status. But they take all our good honest brits jobs 🙃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 Trigger warning. Moron alert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 So this Williamson who has booted out of cabinet feck knows how many times could be about to get his arse booted out again after bullying and sexism claims made against him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, vegas-voss said: So this Williamson who has booted out of cabinet feck knows how many times could be about to get his arse booted out again after bullying and sexism claims made against him. I know this is a toxicly masculine thing to say but if I'd been bullied by Gavin Williamson, I wouldn't tell anyone. The man wears Batman pyjamas, FFS! p.s. where do you see this story? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 That's SIR Gavin Sex Pest Williamson to you, sonny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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vegas-voss Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 49 minutes ago, I P Knightley said: I know this is a toxicly masculine thing to say but if I'd been bullied by Gavin Williamson, I wouldn't tell anyone. The man wears Batman pyjamas, FFS! p.s. where do you see this story? https://twitter.com/Independent/status/1588511820700340226?t=Iot9cVO7xyodSPScguAASQ&s=19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Mighty Thor Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Reynolds Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 It's everyone else's fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 On 04/11/2022 at 19:10, vegas-voss said: https://twitter.com/Independent/status/1588511820700340226?t=Iot9cVO7xyodSPScguAASQ&s=19 Mentioned on the BBC news at 10 but they're not giving it much prominence on the news website. Poppa Crerar has shared some correspondence between Williamson and the chief who where he gets all stroppy about not getting a ticket to the queen's funeral. He comes across as even more of a **** than I'd given him credit for. There also chat that the chair of the party warned Sunak not to appoint him as the S was about to hit the F over his bullying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Hes trying to play the Tories at their hideous game. What an absolute Roaster.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Next week's fun and games: £60 billion a year worth of spending cuts and tax rises. Can you guess where the cuts will be made and who's going to have the biggest tax rises? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 There is a relatively easy solution to the 'migrant crisis'. Make decisions on asylum applications more quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldChampions1902 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 34 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: There is a relatively easy solution to the 'migrant crisis'. Make decisions on asylum applications more quickly. If the Junta implement a solution, then that’s one less manufactured toxic topic to distract Daily Mail/Express/Torygraph readers. Will never catch on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Rishi Sunak was rushed out of cop27 by his aids. Not sure why as of yet but looks to be something serious. 🤷 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Maybe he was touching cloth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 33 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said: Rishi Sunak was rushed out of cop27 by his aids. Not sure why as of yet but looks to be something serious. 🤷 Maybe Elsie approached him for selfie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboy1982 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 hour ago, AlimOzturk said: Rishi Sunak was rushed out of cop27 by his aids. Not sure why as of yet but looks to be something serious. 🤷 An Albanian illegal had fraudulently claimed an extra 12p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Slog Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 On 04/11/2022 at 16:47, Cade said: And not allowed to work unless they then apply for and gain settled status. The cost of which is currently :- The costs for the application will be as follows: Solicitors £2,600.00 plus vat Home Office £1,538.00 (subject to exchange rates) Imm. Health Surch £1,860.00 (subject to exchange rates) Biometrics Fee £19.20 ((subject to exchange rates) Priority Service £573.00 (subject to exchange rates and availability) The NHS charge due again in another two and half years, naturalisation only allowed after five. No benefits other than NHS during those 5 years. and unless a company sponsors them, spouse has to prove earning for their upkeep, or bank just under 60k at the time of applying for, indeed six months prior to settled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 hour ago, AlimOzturk said: Rishi Sunak was rushed out of cop27 by his aids. Not sure why as of yet but looks to be something serious. 🤷 They are cla8ming to be close to a deal with France regarding how to deal with small migrant boats. Maybe prepping for an announcement on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 7 hours ago, Cade said: Maybe he was touching cloth? “Pharaoh’s Revenge” perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Did someone ask him a question? He doesn't like anyone asking him questions. He meets under the pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Looks like he was spending time with Macron building bridges and trying to tackle the migrant issue. Thankfully we have an adult in the room again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 18 hours ago, Mikey1874 said: There is a relatively easy solution to the 'migrant crisis'. Make decisions on asylum applications more quickly. Indeed. Create a proper, well resourced asylum claim processing department. But naw... that's public sector expenditure. Directly contrary to Tory ideological, self harming obsession. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 15 minutes ago, Japan Jambo said: Looks like he was spending time with Macron building bridges and trying to tackle the migrant issue. Thankfully we have an adult in the room again. Did you not see who he appointed as Home Secretary? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 29 minutes ago, Victorian said: Indeed. Create a proper, well resourced asylum claim processing department. But naw... that's public sector expenditure. Directly contrary to Tory ideological, self harming obsession. How much money are we willing to spend ? As much as it takes ? There are a ridiculous amount of migrants and applications to deal with I’m not sure any system could cope without unlimited funds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dazo said: How much money are we willing to spend ? As much as it takes ? There are a ridiculous amount of migrants and applications to deal with I’m not sure any system could cope without unlimited funds. They're already burning tens of millions, if not hundreds, with the hoplessly broken non-system they have. Housing tens of thousands of them in hotels. Massive sums of money being given to Rwanda for an already failed and doomed off-shore processing regime. All the money spent in legal fees. The money would be much better spent by processing claims quickly, resettling successful applications and removing unsuccessful ones according to the law. Doing things properly often pays off. This could not be a more clear example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, Victorian said: They're already burning tens of millions, if not hundreds, with the hoplessly broken non-system they have. Housing tens of thousands of them in hotels. Massive sums of money being given to Rwanda for an already failed and doomed off-shore processing regime. All the money spent in legal fees. The money would be much better spent by processing claims quickly, resettling successful applications and removing unsuccessful ones according to the law. Doing things properly often pays off. This could not be a more clear example. Completely agree but you could probably say that about every single government department and not just the uk government. Wasting money is what governments do best. You try and make things better though and the uproar is ridiculous. Too many people in too many cushy jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, Dazo said: Completely agree but you could probably say that about every single government department and not just the uk government. Wasting money is what governments do best. You try and make things better though and the uproar is ridiculous. Too many people in too many cushy jobs. Why would they be cushy jobs? If looks like a pretty huge volume of work to be performed and the job of processing claims would be a busy one. Nobody wants wasted public sector expenditure but the reason our public sector is hopelessly under-resourced is an entirely political choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briever Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 54 minutes ago, Victorian said: Indeed. Create a proper, well resourced asylum claim processing department. But naw... that's public sector expenditure. Directly contrary to Tory ideological, self harming obsession. What makes you think they want to fix it - it's needed to distract the morons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffros Furios Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 51 minutes ago, Cade said: Did you not see who he appointed as Home Secretary? Aye and ****in Gavin Mr Bean Williamson ... bunch of wankers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 One of the main attractions for people coming to the UK especially to claim asylum is the broken non-system. It's known that it takes years to settle claims and to progress to the point of return. The solution is to remove the attraction. The Rwanda idea has failed and does not act as the deterrent it was designed to be. Properly removing the attraction is to show it to be the case that unsuccessful applications result in a much shorter stay. If they want to stop people crossing from France to the UK then they need to show that there is no comparative purpose to making the crossing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Indeed. A very quick processing system is a deterrent. You'll either genuinely be in need of protection from persecution at home, or you'll be very quickly declared a chancer and packed right back off again. If that process can be made more efficient and people know that a decision will be made in only 6 weeks then chancers will be far less likely to give it a go. "I'm not going to the UK, they process you fast and I'll get booted out quicksmart" But naw, the far right bams in power prefer to have a broken system so they have someone to blame for all of the troubles the UK is facing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 58 minutes ago, Victorian said: One of the main attractions for people coming to the UK especially to claim asylum is the broken non-system. It's known that it takes years to settle claims and to progress to the point of return. The solution is to remove the attraction. The Rwanda idea has failed and does not act as the deterrent it was designed to be. Properly removing the attraction is to show it to be the case that unsuccessful applications result in a much shorter stay. If they want to stop people crossing from France to the UK then they need to show that there is no comparative purpose to making the crossing. People generally come to UK for existing family ties. One of reasons for large number of successful applications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Meanwhile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Meanwhile Scandalous. Deliberately trying to prevent the demographic who historically don't vote for them from being allowed to vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 So the cover up and whitewash isn't cutting it 😂 It's going great for Rashid. Shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 It's less about Sunak's judgement. Williamson and Braverman show how low the Conservative Party has sunk since the start of the Brexit campaign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Ok who was it ? https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/nov/08/police-investigate-excrement-in-a-box-left-at-tory-mps-office-in-stroud?CMP=fb_gu&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR32qfBCpM1bPFQnjNeogTpUEfAb5uAjmONF80uuwNx2yIUR_k4XR8S1zMs#Echobox=1667905366 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 5 hours ago, Cade said: Did you not see who he appointed as Home Secretary? Yes and she wouldn't have been my choice. Nonetheless I believe we are in better hands than under the stewardship of BoJo or Truss - presumably you either don't or is it just a case of all Tories are scumbags in which case it's a pointless discussion that neither of us should waste time on? 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Just a difference cardboard cutout stood at the front desk. Same evil, deluded, clueless *******s working away in the background. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 25 minutes ago, Japan Jambo said: Yes and she wouldn't have been my choice. Nonetheless I believe we are in better hands than under the stewardship of BoJo or Truss - presumably you either don't or is it just a case of all Tories are scumbags in which case it's a pointless discussion that neither of us should waste time on? 🤷♂️ Are we? BoJo Sunak Patel Truss Kwarteng Braverman Sunak Hunt Braverman It's a close run thing when looking at competence, integrity and accountability. Same arrogance, ideology and selfservatism prevails across all three premierships. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 (edited) The Tories version of Trump's voter suppression looks like it will be implemented in England for next year's local elections. It appears that IDs commonly used by younger people, such as Student ID or Railcards are not acceptable, while senior travel passes are accepted. Surely this fine new (polished turd of a) government wouldn't be trying to gerrymander elections by excluding those most likely to vote against them. https://bylinetimes.com/2022/11/07/voter-id-its-far-worse-than-any-us-state/ Edited November 8, 2022 by Footballfirst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, Footballfirst said: The Tories version of Trump's voter suppression looks like it will be implemented in England for next year's local elections. It appears that IDs commonly used by younger people, such as Student ID or Railcards are not acceptable, while senior travel passes are accepted. Surely this fine new (polished turd of a) government wouldn't be trying to gerrymander elections by excluding those most likely to vote against them. https://bylinetimes.com/2022/11/07/voter-id-its-far-worse-than-any-us-state/ Student ID and Railcards aren’t legitimate forms of ID ffs. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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