More Tory lies

[Jeffros Furios]

Zahawi is a pathetic Boris  clone ... doesn't he realise no-one believes thier shit anymore .

The game's up and Zahawi is destroying what little credibility he has .

Quality viewing 

[Riccarton3]

1 minute ago, Jeffros Furios said:

Zahawi is a pathetic Boris  clone ... doesn't he realise no-one believes thier shit anymore .

The game's up and Zahawi is destroying what little credibility he has .

Quality viewing 

Rarely will you listen to anyone more smug, condescending and conceited no matter the situation. It's a ****ing game for these *****. Pure and simple

[Don DaniEL]

Alistair Campbell just ripped Kate Burley a new one. Left her in a screaming heap with no credibly by saying that she (they) were guilty of propping up a liar and a charlatan and a crook. 
Quality viewing. 😀

[The Mighty Thor]

LBC this morning is incredible this morning. 

 

English Tory voters coming on, one after the other, saying that 'he's doing his best' 'they're trying to steal our Brexit' and my favourite that its all a media conspiracy to get Johnson out. 

 

I suggested on another thread that there were fundamental differences between Scots and English people. Anyone listening to this stuff could never argue that point again. 

 

It's utterly mesmeric. 

[Japan Jambo]

1 hour ago, The Mighty Thor said:

He's on LBC now trying to defend Johnson and his lying.

 

So far we've had;

 

Good leadership

Getting the big calls right

delivering for the people

getting on with the job

 

EDIT: new one to the lexicon of bullshit = 'making decisions at warp speed' 👍

 

He was on radio 4 earlier - Trott and Quince resigned as he was talking. Made for quite the car crash interview. Interesting that he could scarcely believe he got the job - you aren't alone in this Nadhim !

[Riccarton3]

4 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said:

LBC this morning is incredible this morning. 

 

English Tory voters coming on, one after the other, saying that 'he's doing his best' 'they're trying to steal our Brexit' and my favourite that its all a media conspiracy to get Johnson out. 

 

I suggested on another thread that there were fundamental differences between Scots and English people. Anyone listening to this stuff could never argue that point again. 

 

It's utterly mesmeric. 

It's human nature, unfortunately. Put people in differing situations and they react accordingly.

 

Our country is blighted by sectarianism - same human species, same ingrained beliefs.

[The Mighty Thor]

Another chapter in the catalogue of cun*ery.

 

These little beauties are only this week. It's only Wednesday. 

 

 

[Taffin]

25 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said:

LBC this morning is incredible this morning. 

 

English Tory voters coming on, one after the other, saying that 'he's doing his best' 'they're trying to steal our Brexit' and my favourite that its all a media conspiracy to get Johnson out. 

 

I suggested on another thread that there were fundamental differences between Scots and English people. Anyone listening to this stuff could never argue that point again. 

 

It's utterly mesmeric. 

 

More people in England voted against Brexit than did in Scotland. The percentage balance may be different but there's nowhere near the gap you're making out. Nearly 40% of those who voted in Scotland voted to Leave. It's different but hardly a chasm.

 

I'm rounding of course, but broadly 4 in 10 in Scotland voted to leave, 5 in 10 in England. 

Edited July 6, 2022 by Taffin

[The Mighty Thor]

3 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

More people in England voted against Brexit than did in Scotland. The percentage balance may be different but there's nowhere near the gap you're making out. Nearly 40% of those who voted in Scotland voted to Leave. It's different but hardly a chasm.

Would that be because there's more people living in England? That's Government level truth bending. 

 

Just a reminder;

 

Scotland 62% remain - 38% leave

England 47% remain - 53% leave

 

That's a chasm. That's why we're out and that's why the cost of living crisis will be deeper and longer. That's what a chasm gets you. 

[JudyJudyJudy]

20 minutes ago, Riccarton3 said:

It's human nature, unfortunately. Put people in differing situations and they react accordingly.

 

Our country is blighted by sectarianism - same human species, same ingrained beliefs.

No come on mate apparently our country is all unicorns and rainbows . We are the salt of the earth , decent people , whereas them “ down south” well …..,,,

[JudyJudyJudy]

9 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

More people in England voted against Brexit than did in Scotland. The percentage balance may be different but there's nowhere near the gap you're making out. Nearly 40% of those who voted in Scotland voted to Leave. It's different but hardly a chasm.

 

I'm rounding of course, but broadly 4 in 10 in Scotland voted to leave, 5 in 10 in England. 

It’s a narrative used by Scot’s extremists really , like there’s a massively significance difference between the Scot’s and English , bordering on superiority . 

[JudyJudyJudy]

13 hours ago, jonesy said:

Rees Mogg would have us undo decimalisation. 

He’s currently repealing coal fire legislation so kids can get Jobs as chimney sweeps again ! 
 

 

[Shooter McGavin]

Will Quince, Minister for children and families, resigns.

 

Robin Walker, Schools minister, resigns.

 

Robert Halfon, MP for Harlow, withdraws support.

 

Likes rats jumping from a sinking ship.

[Taffin]

17 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said:

Would that be because there's more people living in England? That's Government level truth bending. 

 

Truth bending by mentioning it in my post? Sure; "The percentage balance may be different".

 

You're making out like English people vote differently to Scottish people across the board. Over 13 million people voted to Remain, in England. 

 

17 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said:

Just a reminder;

 

Scotland 62% remain - 38% leave

England 47% remain - 53% leave

 

That's a chasm. That's why we're out and that's why the cost of living crisis will be deeper and longer. That's what a chasm gets you. 

 

A chasm of 1 person in every 10. 😂😂

 

We're out because of nationalism and easily led voters. There's marginally more of them in England, but not by the levels you're making out and certainly not with a significant difference that you'd notice a difference of Leave/Remain based on a phone in with a sample size of a handful of people

Edited July 6, 2022 by Taffin

[Taffin]

12 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said:

It’s a narrative used by Scot’s extremists really , like there’s a massively significance difference between the Scot’s and English , bordering on superiority . 

 

It's worrying because it's that superiority complex that's placed England where it is. Confidence and imperialism that they didn't need the EU...ironically if the Scottish electorate where more like the English we wouldn't be having this conversation as they wouldn't have bottled it in 2014.

[The Mighty Thor]

15 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said:

No come on mate apparently our country is all unicorns and rainbows . We are the salt of the earth , decent people , whereas them “ down south” well …..,,,

You still trying to dig yourself out of that hole of made up stuff? 

 

Post meme's mate.

[JudyJudyJudy]

4 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

It's worrying because it's that superiority complex that's placed England where it is. Confidence and imperialism that they didn't need the EU...ironically if the Scottish electorate where more like the English we wouldn't be having this conversation as they wouldn't have bottled it in 2014.

Agreed . 

[The Mighty Thor]

3 minutes ago, Taffin said:

We're out because of nationalism and easily led voters. There's marginally more of them in England, but not by the levels you're making out and certainly not with a significant difference that you'd notice a difference of Leave/Remain based on a phone in with a sample size of a handful of people

We're out because of the lies of the guy who is now on the verge of getting launched due to er lying. 

 

I'm not claiming that the sample size of a radio phone is indicative of anything other than there appears to be a chunk of the population who, despite the evidence of their eyes and ears, still think Johnson is doing a good job and that when pushes come to shoves at the next GE they'll vote them back in again.

 

To me. That is mind bending. 

 

Anyway we're verging off topic. 

 

 

[JudyJudyJudy]

3 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said:

You still trying to dig yourself out of that hole of made up stuff? 

 

Post meme's mate.

Your in the hole ,,, with your nationalistic nonsense ! 

[JudyJudyJudy]

Just now, The Mighty Thor said:

We're out because of the lies of the guy who is now on the verge of getting launched due to er lying. 

 

I'm not claiming that the sample size of a radio phone is indicative of anything other than there appears to be a chunk of the population who, despite the evidence of their eyes and ears, still think Johnson is doing a good job and that when pushes come to shoves at the next GE they'll vote them back in again.

 

To me. That is mind bending. 

 

Anyway we're verging off topic. 

 

 

“Oh change the topic I don’t like being challenged ! “  you brought it up 

[Victorian]

53 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said:

LBC this morning is incredible this morning. 

 

English Tory voters coming on, one after the other, saying that 'he's doing his best' 'they're trying to steal our Brexit' and my favourite that its all a media conspiracy to get Johnson out. 

 

I suggested on another thread that there were fundamental differences between Scots and English people. Anyone listening to this stuff could never argue that point again. 

 

It's utterly mesmeric. 

 

It's the same tribal lunacy as the USA.  STOP THE STEAL,  etc.  

[JudyJudyJudy]

8 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

Truth bending by mentioning it in my post? Sure; "The percentage balance may be different".

 

You're making out like English people vote differently to Scottish people across the board. Over 13 million people voted to Remain, in England. 

 

 

A chasm of 1 person in every 10. 😂😂

 

We're out because of nationalism and easily led voters. There's marginally more of them in England, but not by the levels you're making out and certainly not with a significant difference that you'd notice a difference of Leave/Remain based on a phone in with a sample size of a handful of people

Very well said . Seek to my back teeth with the narrative that’s there’s a real differences between the Scot’s and English . It’s used by NS and her mob to cause rancour and division. Anyway back to Tory lies 

[A Boy Named Crow]

1 hour ago, Imaman said:

Alistair Campbell just ripped Kate Burley a new one. Left her in a screaming heap with no credibly by saying that she (they) were guilty of propping up a liar and a charlatan and a crook. 
Quality viewing. 😀

I just saw the clip. Up there with her 'mansplaining' debacle with Blackford! The media in the UK should be up against the wall,  day one of the revolution!

Edited July 6, 2022 by A Boy Named Crow

[jack D and coke]

9 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

It's worrying because it's that superiority complex that's placed England where it is. Confidence and imperialism that they didn't need the EU...ironically if the Scottish electorate where more like the English we wouldn't be having this conversation as they wouldn't have bottled it in 2014.

A good point. I understand it that some people are just chained to this and can’t let go but I’ll never truly understand it. 
I think we’d be in some better place by now but they probably think we’d have fallen off the side of the earth. 
They’d rather sit in the back seat and let a pished driver take the wheel. 

[Victorian]

A perverse irony is that Spaffer would think nothing of completely reversing course on Brexit and going for a good and close relationship with the EU if he thought it was the way the wind was blowing in populist terms and would extend his premiership.  

[Taffin]

2 minutes ago, jack D and coke said:

A good point. I understand it that some people are just chained to this and can’t let go but I’ll never truly understand it. 
I think we’d be in some better place by now but they probably think we’d have fallen off the side of the earth. 
They’d rather sit in the back seat and let a pished driver take the wheel. 

 

It's hard to fathom how we could possibly be worse off. 

 

We're a few crises away from failed state 😂

[JudyJudyJudy]

3 minutes ago, Victorian said:

A perverse irony is that Spaffer would think nothing of completely reversing course on Brexit and going for a good and close relationship with the EU if he thought it was the way the wind was blowing in populist terms and would extend his premiership.  

I thought “ listening to the will of the people “ was the moral thing to do ? 

[JudyJudyJudy]

Get him installed as Labour leader and let’s have an election 

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jul/06/the-country-is-in-a-dangerous-place-people-are-frightened-andy-burnham-on-power-progress-and-finding-his-place?CMP=fb_gu&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR2NhmkP3WfIH98_98cipau_8wMNp_aPj7sUkNyU7oP7uTUFh9r46Z-3N-k&fs=e&s=cl#Echobox=1657087769

[Ray Gin]

27 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

A chasm of 1 person in every 10. 😂😂

 

 

3 people in every 20.

 

 

[joondalupjambo]

Back to Tory lies.

They said we would all be better together, then all better under a Tory government and then we will all be better off out of the EU.  

To honest for a number of the population it is probably true but for the rest, possibly the majority of the population it is a hat full of porkies.

So they only lie to some folk in reality 😀 Not all bad then😀

[pharmaceutical01]

1 hour ago, Imaman said:

Alistair Campbell just ripped Kate Burley a new one. Left her in a screaming heap with no credibly by saying that she (they) were guilty of propping up a liar and a charlatan and a crook. 
Quality viewing. 😀

Was quality viewing !!!

 

Reminded me of  Jordan Peterson and Cathy Newman… Gotcha!

[dobmisterdobster]

Nadhim Zahawi's first order of business. Cut VAT now!

[Taffin]

13 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

3 people in every 20.

 

 

 

Indeed, of those who voted. Still not a glaring difference, where the English electorate alone delivered Brexit. If Scotland was this staunch remain utopia Brexit wouldn't have happened. If those in Scotland who didn't care enough to vote had voted remain, remain would have won...likewise if those who voted leave in Scotland had voted Remain (like the narrative suggests surely they did) then remain would have won.

 

Once again it's easier to just blame other nations. Scotland contributed to the result and could (had it wanted to) actually delivered a Remain vote...all other things being equal.

[JudyJudyJudy]

1 minute ago, dobmisterdobster said:

Nadhim Zahawi's first order of business. Cut VAT now!

He’s been hinting about tax cuts . Good . 

[Victorian]

Word is that Zahawi was only given CoEx because he was going to be one of the rats jumping off the sinking ship.  

[Mikey1874]

40 minutes ago, A Boy Named Crow said:

I just saw the clip. Up there with her 'mansplaining' debacle with Blackford! The media in the UK should be up against the wall,  day one of the revolution!

 

The media are okay generally.

 

People like Burley look for drama. The recent interview where she tried to get the RMT leader to condone violence on picket line another example. 

[Mikey1874]

1 minute ago, Victorian said:

Word is that Zahawi was only given CoEx because he was going to be one of the rats jumping off the sinking ship.  

 

Several journalists last evening were saying he was going to resign just before it was announced he was Chancellor. 

[The Real Maroonblood]

2 hours ago, Imaman said:

Alistair Campbell just ripped Kate Burley a new one. Left her in a screaming heap with no credibly by saying that she (they) were guilty of propping up a liar and a charlatan and a crook. 
Quality viewing. 😀

I just saw it on you tube.

Excellent viewing.

[Riccarton3]

3 minutes ago, Victorian said:

Word is that Zahawi was only given CoEx because he was going to be one of the rats jumping off the sinking ship.  

Fabricant turned it down and he was the alternate

[Mikey1874]

2 hours ago, Imaman said:

Alistair Campbell just ripped Kate Burley a new one. Left her in a screaming heap with no credibly by saying that she (they) were guilty of propping up a liar and a charlatan and a crook. 
Quality viewing. 😀

 

[dobmisterdobster]

2 hours ago, Imaman said:

Alistair Campbell just ripped Kate Burley a new one. Left her in a screaming heap with no credibly by saying that she (they) were guilty of propping up a liar and a charlatan and a crook. 
Quality viewing. 😀

 

The irony being that Alastair Campbell is every one of those things. 😂

[Victorian]

Anyone seen any word from the ching hoover Gove?  He probably hasn't noticed anything's happened.

[The Real Maroonblood]

6 minutes ago, dobmisterdobster said:

 

The irony being that Alastair Campbell is every one of those things. 😂

Tell us more.

[Boab]

8 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said:

 

Great watching these crooks implode. 
Even better, watching people trying to defend it. 😂
The game’s up ! Call a GE and get rid once and for all.

[JudyJudyJudy]

11 minutes ago, dobmisterdobster said:

 

The irony being that Alastair Campbell is every one of those things. 😂

Yes “ let hie without sin caste the first stone “ comes to mind 

[The Mighty Thor]

14 minutes ago, Victorian said:

Anyone seen any word from the ching hoover Gove?  He probably hasn't noticed anything's happened.

Mikey boy will be thinking he's got a shot at the big job so he'll be keeping his head down until Johnson has been removed. 

 

At which point the Tory media will probably crucify him for his extra-curricular activities. 

 

 

[The Mighty Thor]

16 gone now. 

 

PMQ's will be a hoot. 

[Ray Gin]

1 minute ago, The Mighty Thor said:

16 gone now. 

 

PMQ's will be a hoot. 

 

[Riccarton3]

13 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said:

Yes “ let hie without sin caste the first stone “ comes to mind 

But no defence for Johnson, obviously

[Mikey1874]

Remember Parliament is protected from all legal limits.

 

Within certain limits they can say anything. 

 

So for example Boris Johnson could refer to Starmer receiving FPN if that has happened. 

 

Edited July 6, 2022 by Mikey1874