Footballfirst Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 3 minutes ago, Victorian said: Another 6pm news story arranged. Election time? Kate cancer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 The plan is working World leading 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Flag shaggers are all losing their minds over the new England football shirt. Not because it costs £125, but because they've changed the colour of the flag on the back of the collar. As if anyone would stoop so low as to change the colour of a national flag, tis a disgrace, I tell thee!! Certainly won't catch the Tories doing that. Or the UK Border Force/Various Police Forces Or UKIP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 4 hours ago, Footballfirst said: Kate cancer. Not the catchiest of nicknames. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 56 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: The plan is working World leading 👍 Land of Hope and Glory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 5 hours ago, joondalupjambo said: Waste of time and resources. The Police will come to same conclusion here as our PM, i.e. He is not a racist and he apologised so nothing to see here. I'm pretty sure I'm not a racist and I've never found myself apologising for saying racist things. If Hester's not a racist, why did apologise for the racist (and misongynistic) things he said? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Well done Dave another trade deal on the horizon onwards and upwards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 3 hours ago, manaliveits105 said: Well done Dave another trade deal on the horizon onwards and upwards Visa free restrictions to Thailand? Freedom of noncing. How very Conservative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Britain leading the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Well, yes. Trade deals mean more immigration. What is apparently holding up the big deal with India who want more people to be able to come to the UK. Go guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Everybody loves the UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad von Carstein Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Posted without comment... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 2 hours ago, manaliveits105 said: Everybody loves the UK Even the part where "Smurfs" live and "ess n pee" are in charge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 8 minutes ago, Konrad von Carstein said: Posted without comment... The entire Tory / Reform/ UKIP/ BNP strategy is to get dafties to blame foreigners/ refugees/ poor people and any other easy target for their shite lives. That's what lands with the hard of thinking and downright nasty and people have voted for it. I suspect that even stupid people have wised up now and they are just left with the bad b'stards who need somebody to hate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joondalupjambo Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 12 hours ago, I P Knightley said: I'm pretty sure I'm not a racist and I've never found myself apologising for saying racist things. If Hester's not a racist, why did apologise for the racist (and misongynistic) things he said? Good question. He will say sorry, as will anyone in public life, or prominence who has been caught out just to save their skins. Saying sorry for using words that folk do not like, or take in a specific way will be, in his head anyway not racist. Just a set of words. If the police investigate and charge him with racism then that will be interesting given how many politicians have said he is not a racist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 (edited) On 22/03/2024 at 10:29, The Mighty Thor said: Fat racist Tory welt (a common characteristic) being investigated by West Yorkshire Police for being a fat racist Tory welt. Aye but free speech likesy Indeed. Our screechy libertarians will be outraged at this waste of police time Edited March 23 by i wish jj was my dad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrysmithsgloves Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 5 hours ago, manaliveits105 said: Britain leading the way How did that trade deal with Australia work out for British farmers ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 3 hours ago, manaliveits105 said: Everybody loves the UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Strategic partnership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 50 minutes ago, Ulysses said: Strategic partnership. 🤪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 9 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said: Visa free restrictions to Thailand? Freedom of noncing. How very Conservative .... and, ahem, "young" Thai folk able to come to the UK without a visa too. Gary Glitter in his jail cell will be furious at this news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 ,,,, something fishy going on here, possibly ? https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/brexit-border-control-post-demolished-rishi-sunak_uk_65fd321ae4b07c954d554c3c Parking the £24m cost to one side - part of which was paid by the local council - plus the additional cost of demolishing the unused Portsmouth border control facility and some others - the Govt are saying its not needed now because FEWER checks on imports from the EU are now required and these can be handled elsewhere more easily ! Um, really ? The |Home Office says there will be MORE checks coming on-stream to beef up UK's bio-security - stuff that we weren't geared up for when we actually left the EU Its not that long ago that the Govt were saying an extra 50k border control staff was needed - so where will they be stationed, and how long will it take to train them ? A cynic might wonder if the Govt is laying the groundwork for UK food standards to diverge downwards from the EU standards - while hiding behind Serco contracts for providing proper border control checks. Quite strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Well aye, if the UK gets rid of all standards then we don't have to check anything...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Just as well that's been cleared up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueRiver Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 6 hours ago, i wish jj was my dad said: The entire Tory / Reform/ UKIP/ BNP strategy is to get dafties to blame foreigners/ refugees/ poor people and any other easy target for their shite lives. That's what lands with the hard of thinking and downright nasty and people have voted for it. I suspect that even stupid people have wised up now and they are just left with the bad b'stards who need somebody to hate. We should abolish the franchise to ensure these despicable people can't vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 16 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Just as well that's been cleared up. An absolute maniac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 (edited) 8 minutes ago, BlueRiver said: We should abolish the franchise to ensure these despicable people can't vote. Or we could challenge the bollocks propaganda that Murdoch, Marshall and Harmsworth churn out so that even easily led dafties can understand the harm being done to them. Edited March 23 by i wish jj was my dad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 6 hours ago, joondalupjambo said: If the police investigate and charge him with racism then that will be interesting given how many Tory politicians, whose party benefits to the tune of £15m from him, have said he is not a racist. Seriously. Anyone who believes that something is reliable just because a Tory politician said it, needs to give their head a wobble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 3 hours ago, Mikey1874 said: Just as well that's been cleared up. "De-stabilise", says the woman who holds the record for inflicting the fastest de-stabilisation in political history. A lettuce came second in the de-stabilisation race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 @Ulysses Is this true ? Just read an online comment from someone, saying that Ireland's High Court have ruled (using EU law) that the UK is not a safe country for them to send their failed asylum seekers to, on account of the UK Govt's intention to implement the Rwanda scheme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 4 minutes ago, Lone Striker said: @Ulysses Is this true ? Just read an online comment from someone, saying that Ireland's High Court have ruled (using EU law) that the UK is not a safe country for them to send their failed asylum seekers to, on account of the UK Govt's intention to implement the Rwanda scheme. If that is true it should be front page news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 14 minutes ago, i wish jj was my dad said: If that is true it should be front page news Yep - it is .... Irish Daily Mail today https://www.pressreader.com/ireland/irish-daily-mail/20240323/281608130428156 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueRiver Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 8 minutes ago, Lone Striker said: Yep - it is .... Irish Daily Mail today https://www.pressreader.com/ireland/irish-daily-mail/20240323/281608130428156 Fancy this will have legs and will go to Supreme Court rather than being decided at that level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 1 hour ago, Lone Striker said: @Ulysses Is this true ? Just read an online comment from someone, saying that Ireland's High Court have ruled (using EU law) that the UK is not a safe country for them to send their failed asylum seekers to, on account of the UK Govt's intention to implement the Rwanda scheme. Sort of. There are a few nuances, but they're boring to explain, so the answer is pretty much yes. 56 minutes ago, BlueRiver said: Fancy this will have legs and will go to Supreme Court rather than being decided at that level. Probably. It strikes down a Ministerial Order made by the Justice Minister declaring the UK to be a safe non-EU state. Sometimes Ministers just let that kind of thing go, because in the grand scheme of things Ministerial Orders are not the most important things in the law. But this one is important because Ireland and the UK have extensive co-operation on matters relating to migration, so I'd say it'll make its way to the Supreme Court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 1 hour ago, i wish jj was my dad said: If that is true it should be front page news Possibly, but Ireland wouldn't be in the business of returning that many migrants to the UK, so it shouldn't have any negative impact on the Rwanda scheme if it actually got up and running. It also doesn't mean that the UK is regarded as an unsafe place as such; it means that the court is recognising that what really matters is where the person being sent back to the UK might end up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 1 minute ago, Ulysses said: Possibly, but Ireland wouldn't be in the business of returning that many migrants to the UK, so it shouldn't have any negative impact on the Rwanda scheme if it actually got up and running. It also doesn't mean that the UK is regarded as an unsafe place as such; it means that the court is recognising that what really matters is where the person being sent back to the UK might end up. Thanks for the explanation. It is still very unsettling how our international partners view us or at least this policy. It us shameful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 3 minutes ago, i wish jj was my dad said: Thanks for the explanation. It is still very unsettling how our international partners view us or at least this policy. It us shameful. Cheers. Mostly people ask why you can't send them whence they came rather than Rwanda. It's just such a random place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 12 minutes ago, Ulysses said: Cheers. Mostly people ask why you can't send them whence they came rather than Rwanda. It's just such a random place. I can't get my head around the concept of shipping anybody not least people fleeing conflict to a place that saw one of the worst genocides since ww2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 16 minutes ago, Ulysses said: Cheers. Mostly people ask why you can't send them whence they came rather than Rwanda. It's just such a random place. Thanks for your thoughts. 👍 Its got me wondering though - do all EU countries have an identical list of "safe countries" to which it would be lawful to send failed asylum seekers ? If such a list exists, it then begs the question - why is the UK not using that same list too ? (Of course, our Govt will stop at nothing to make sure we're not seen to be aligning in any way with EU doctrines now !! 🙄) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 4 minutes ago, Lone Striker said: Thanks for your thoughts. 👍 Its got me wondering though - do all EU countries have an identical list of "safe countries" to which it would be lawful to send failed asylum seekers ? If such a list exists, it then begs the question - why is the UK not using that same list too ? (Of course, our Govt will stop at nothing to make sure we're not seen to be aligning in any way with EU doctrines now !! 🙄) There isn't a consistent list, because ultimately migration is a reserved national issue. All EU member states include all other EU countries on their lists. Ireland has only designated the UK, as has Iceland. Greece regards Turkey as a safe third country, but only if the migrant is from particular countries. Hungary has the longest list, but even then it's only 15 non-EU countries. Hungary is the only country that recognises the United States, but it excludes States that operate the death penalty. The Croatian government tried to recognise Serbia as a safe non-EU country, but its highest court overruled them. In other words, it's a bit of a mess. But that's also why I'm not sure the court decision about the UK and Rwanda is actually all that big a deal. It's also a tricky issue because although migration is a reserved national policy matter, under EU law individual countries cannot expose migrants to the risk of refoulement, i.e. to the risk of being returned to a country where they would be in danger of persecution for specified reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranston Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 16 minutes ago, Lone Striker said: Thanks for your thoughts. 👍 Its got me wondering though - do all EU countries have an identical list of "safe countries" to which it would be lawful to send failed asylum seekers ? If such a list exists, it then begs the question - why is the UK not using that same list too ? (Of course, our Govt will stop at nothing to make sure we're not seen to be aligning in any way with EU doctrines now !! 🙄) Why don't we the Scots tell UK parliament to send the migrants here up to Scotland? We need migrants right? As many as possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 1 minute ago, Cranston said: Why don't we the Scots tell UK parliament to send the migrants here up to Scotland? We need migrants right? As many as possible? Thick and fast with the post-count accumulation now. 👀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranston Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Just now, Morgan said: Thick and fast with the post-count accumulation now. 👀 Okay mate. Point taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 (edited) 18 hours ago, Cranston said: Why don't we the Scots tell UK parliament to send the migrants here up to Scotland? We need migrants right? As many as possible? The whole UK needs migrants. It always has. I'd prefer that Scotland set its own immigration policy rather than leave the racists and xenophobes of Westminster to decide it for us. Edited March 24 by The Mighty Thor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 20 hours ago, Cranston said: Why don't we the Scots tell UK parliament to send the migrants here up to Scotland? We need migrants right? As many as possible? In return for the money they're willing to chuck Rwanda's way, that's not too bad a proposal. Given that the Tory gov't aren't planning on scrutinising what happens to those who are shipped to Rwanda, the Scots parly could house them in East Kilbride (or similar). Take them to Easter Road on a Saturday afternoon - that will test their mettle; there'll be plenty space for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 22 hours ago, Cranston said: Why don't we the Scots tell UK parliament to send the migrants here up to Scotland? We need migrants right? As many as possible? Good post. We need more migrants imo. No brainer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 1 hour ago, I P Knightley said: In return for the money they're willing to chuck Rwanda's way, that's not too bad a proposal. Given that the Tory gov't aren't planning on scrutinising what happens to those who are shipped to Rwanda, the Scots parly could house them in East Kilbride (or similar). Take them to Easter Road on a Saturday afternoon - that will test their mettle; there'll be plenty space for them. That could be a win-win for everyone actually. Give them a free mobile phone too, so they can call home and tell their relatives and friends not to bother coming to the UK - its sh1t, the house in EK is a tiny concrete pod next to a roundabaout, and the football team is crap. They'd be begging to go to Rwanda instead. Stop The Boats - job done 😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranston Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 5 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said: The whole UK needs migrants. It always has. I'd prefer that Scotland set its own immigration policy rather than leave the racists and xenophobes of Westminster to decide it for us. Scotland has to be one of the least built up countries anywhere. Build new cities, towns, millions of new homes for new people to migrate to Scotland yes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Well done Rishi - onwards and upwards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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