More Tory lies

[il Duce McTarkin]

3 minutes ago, Punks No Deid said:

Not the best choice of noun gov 

 

 

I'll stand by it.

[Dusk_Till_Dawn]

1 hour ago, Cade said:

 

You submit your question to the clerks.

Some of them are then drawn at random to form the order of business.

Anybody wanting to ask a question but has not been selected can stand up or otherwise draw the eye of the Speaker between other questions and the Speaker then chooses to give them the floor or not.

Diane Abbott stood up 46 times today.

Hoyle ignored her every time.

 

 

 

Probably didn’t want a bigot who couldn’t cope with Times Tables Rockstars wasting parliament’s oxygen.

[Boab]

We are so far down the rabbit hole, this shit seems normal now.

Open racism is defended by the standing PM and cabinet.

I’m pretty glad I stopped contributing 

to this sham by enabling these ^^^^s by voting.

What a shitshow !

[Lone Striker]

Sunak is the absolute worst PM for not giving relevant responses  to points & questions raised by the Leader of the Opposition.   Almost every time, his tactic is deflection followed by a whataboutery jibe at Starmer.

 

I felt Starmer missed a trick today by not responding to Sunak's  deflection answer about not  handing back the £10m to  the racist donor ...... by asking something like   "Given the PM's response & reason for it,   can he therefore now confirm that if these comments had been made by a wealthy Labour donor then he would NOT be calling for me to hand the donation back ?" 

 

Its little surprise that some immediate polling shows that a majority of voters (including Tory voters) feel Sunak's response is downright wrong & weak.. 

 

 

Edited March 13 by Lone Striker

[I P Knightley]

1 hour ago, Cade said:

 

You submit your question to the clerks.

Some of them are then drawn at random to form the order of business.

Anybody wanting to ask a question but has not been selected can stand up or otherwise draw the eye of the Speaker between other questions and the Speaker then chooses to give them the floor or not.

Diane Abbott stood up 46 times today.

Hoyle ignored her every time.

 

 

Still; at least a bunch of white blokes got to discuss her.

 

The sooner Hoyle's gone, the better.

[I P Knightley]

10 minutes ago, Lone Striker said:

 

Its little surprise that some immediate polling shows that a majority of voters (including Tory voters) feel Sunak's response is downright wrong & weak.. 

 

 

His whole leadership is wrong and weak. And I think most Tories know it; even the ones who come on here trolling.

[XB52]

55 minutes ago, Boab said:

We are so far down the rabbit hole, this shit seems normal now.

Open racism is defended by the standing PM and cabinet.

I’m pretty glad I stopped contributing 

to this sham by enabling these ^^^^s by voting.

What a shitshow !

Racism is fully supported on here so not surprising it's supported by the tory MPs. 

[manaliveits105]

The virtue signalling by Keith and In like Flynn at the end by patronising Diane Abbott for the cameras was cringey a f 

[Japan Jambo]

12 hours ago, Cade said:

 

You submit your question to the clerks.

Some of them are then drawn at random to form the order of business.

Anybody wanting to ask a question but has not been selected can stand up or otherwise draw the eye of the Speaker between other questions and the Speaker then chooses to give them the floor or not.

Diane Abbott stood up 46 times today.

Hoyle ignored her every time.

 

 

 

Has he been called a racist yet or should we start a sweepstake on when he will be?

[SectionDJambo]

The worst thing that that idiot said about Abbott, was that she should be shot. It wasn't funny.  No meeting is private anymore. Everyone has a camera and recorder on them.

Some nutter could have heard that and thought it was their time to make their mark in life. Given that 2 MPs have been murdered by nutters with different agendas, it was an offensive thing for him to say in front of people he wouldn't have personally known.

If he had been a known left wing sympathiser saying that about, let's say Braverman, the media would have been, rightly, all over it, as they have been this time. There is no excuse. How would he have liked it if Abbott had told a public gathering, that she was addressing, that he should be shot

 

[il Duce McTarkin]

9 minutes ago, SectionDJambo said:

The worst thing that that idiot said about Abbott, was that she should be shot. It wasn't funny.  No meeting is private anymore. Everyone has a camera and recorder on them.

Some nutter could have heard that and thought it was their time to make their mark in life. Given that 2 MPs have been murdered by nutters with different agendas, it was an offensive thing for him to say in front of people he wouldn't have personally known.

If he had been a known left wing sympathiser saying that about, let's say Braverman, the media would have been, rightly, all over it, as they have been this time. There is no excuse. How would he have liked it if Abbott had told a public gathering, that she was addressing, that he should be shot

 

 

Any left winger who thinks Baverman wouldn't benefit from a firing squad is a wrong 'un, imo.

[Lone Striker]

34 minutes ago, SectionDJambo said:

The worst thing that that idiot said about Abbott, was that she should be shot. It wasn't funny.  No meeting is private anymore. Everyone has a camera and recorder on them.

Some nutter could have heard that and thought it was their time to make their mark in life. Given that 2 MPs have been murdered by nutters with different agendas, it was an offensive thing for him to say in front of people he wouldn't have personally known.

If he had been a known left wing sympathiser saying that about, let's say Braverman, the media would have been, rightly, all over it, as they have been this time. There is no excuse. How would he have liked it if Abbott had told a public gathering, that she was addressing, that he should be shot

 

Well said. 👍  Not sure who his audience was, but it speaks volumes about the guy's judgement and level of common sense that he felt it was ok to make a joke out being tempted to hate all black women because Diane Abbott hasn't yet been shot.

 

As you say, there will be proper racist nutters out there who'll take his comment literally.  

 

Fair play to Kemi Badenough for being the first of the Tory Cabinet to call him out for racism.     Abbott was right to report him to the police too, although he'll probably just end up getting a warning.     If the billionaire Sunak isn't going to hand back the money (or better still, donate it to a charity like Crisis), he's mis-judged (again !) how this looks to all but the most blinkered Tory voters - and added fuel to the fire of contempt that some of his own MPs have for him.

 

 

 

 

[Cade]

Cokeheid Govey is saying that Hester should be given "Christian forgiveness"

 

[Japan Jambo]

12 minutes ago, Lone Striker said:

Well said. 👍  Not sure who his audience was, but it speaks volumes about the guy's judgement and level of common sense that he felt it was ok to make a joke out being tempted to hate all black women because Diane Abbott hasn't yet been shot.

 

As you say, there will be proper racist nutters out there who'll take his comment literally.  

 

Fair play to Kemi Badenough for being the first of the Tory Cabinet to call him out for racism.     Abbott was right to report him to the police too, although he'll probably just end up getting a warning.     If the billionaire Suna his own MPs have for him.k isn't going to hand back the money (or better still, donate it to a charity like Crisis), he's mis-judged (again !) how this looks to all but the most blinkered Tory voters - and added fuel to the fire of contempt that some of

 

 

 

 

 

There is of course the added benefit (to her) that it serves to burnish her leadership credentials for the inevitable post election debacle replacement contest by making Rishi look a tit (yet again). Not that one doubts her motives in any way...

[Victorian]

Racism.  

 

Irresponsible language about violence / murder.

 

He has apologised for neither.  He apologised for being "rude".  The Tory defence based on him apologising is laughable.  Standard Junta gaslighting at it's worst.  They really are a foul bunch.

[Victorian]

And with a dollop of irony,  as well as a complete lack of self awareness,  they're about to barge on with the house business of a new definition of extremism.

 

 

[I P Knightley]

2 hours ago, Japan Jambo said:

 

Has he been called a racist yet or should we start a sweepstake on when he will be?

He's frightened of his own shadow. He'd be the least convincing racist you ever came across. 

 

1 hour ago, SectionDJambo said:

The worst thing that that idiot said about Abbott, was that she should be shot. It wasn't funny.  No meeting is private anymore. Everyone has a camera and recorder on them.

Some nutter could have heard that and thought it was their time to make their mark in life. Given that 2 MPs have been murdered by nutters with different agendas, it was an offensive thing for him to say in front of people he wouldn't have personally known.

If he had been a known left wing sympathiser saying that about, let's say Braverman, the media would have been, rightly, all over it, as they have been this time. There is no excuse. How would he have liked it if Abbott had told a public gathering, that she was addressing, that he should be shot

 

Absolutely darn tootin' right. Whilst the racism and misogyny are blatantly clear and unforgiveable, saying that she deserves to be shot is a whole next level of nastiness. 

 

I don't like Abbott as an MP, largely due to her incompetence, but I would love to have her given a platform today to call this out and draw the comparison to what would undoubtedly happen if she had, at any point, said that Hester (or any other privileged white bloke) should be shot. Given the hounding she got for drinking a can of mojito on a tube train, I think it's fair to assume that she'd be forced out of office. 

 

Hester, along with Sunak, Gove, and the ongoing stream of Tory chunts who support him, have achieved the almost impossible feat of making me feel sympathy for Diane Abbott. 

 

 

32 minutes ago, Lone Striker said:

Fair play to Kemi Badenough for being the first of the Tory Cabinet to call him out for racism.     Abbott was right to report him to the police too, although he'll probably just end up getting a warning.     If the billionaire Sunak isn't going to hand back the money (or better still, donate it to a charity like Crisis), he's mis-judged (again !) how this looks to all but the most blinkered Tory voters - and added fuel to the fire of contempt that some of his own MPs have for him.

Don't discount the strong possibility that Notgoodenough has made a calculated move here.

 

Sunak was dithering over his denouncement of the £10m man and #10 was sending shitgibbons into TV and radio studios to try the same approach as they'd got away with over Lee Anderthal's Islamophobic attack on the London mayor. Notgoodenough read the barometer and thought there was a political gain if she were to come out with a strong statement confirming Hester's racism, whilst making an excuse for keeping the £10 million. 

 

Her doing so forced Sunak's hand and his similar statement followed. So now he looks even weaker than before, having to follow a member of his cabinet rather than, erm, lead. Kemi Badenough has just put herself in pole position to become Leader of the Opposition after the General Election. 

[Mikey1874]

At least the budget worked

 

 

[JudyJudyJudy]

1 hour ago, Lone Striker said:

Kemi Badenough

She will be leader of Tories one day 

[Lone Striker]

11 minutes ago, I P Knightley said:

He's frightened of his own shadow. He'd be the least convincing racist you ever came across. 

 

Absolutely darn tootin' right. Whilst the racism and misogyny are blatantly clear and unforgiveable, saying that she deserves to be shot is a whole next level of nastiness. 

 

I don't like Abbott as an MP, largely due to her incompetence, but I would love to have her given a platform today to call this out and draw the comparison to what would undoubtedly happen if she had, at any point, said that Hester (or any other privileged white bloke) should be shot. Given the hounding she got for drinking a can of mojito on a tube train, I think it's fair to assume that she'd be forced out of office. 

 

Hester, along with Sunak, Gove, and the ongoing stream of Tory chunts who support him, have achieved the almost impossible feat of making me feel sympathy for Diane Abbott. 

 

 

Don't discount the strong possibility that Notgoodenough has made a calculated move here.

 

Sunak was dithering over his denouncement of the £10m man and #10 was sending shitgibbons into TV and radio studios to try the same approach as they'd got away with over Lee Anderthal's Islamophobic attack on the London mayor. Notgoodenough read the barometer and thought there was a political gain if she were to come out with a strong statement confirming Hester's racism, whilst making an excuse for keeping the £10 million. 

 

Her doing so forced Sunak's hand and his similar statement followed. So now he looks even weaker than before, having to follow a member of his cabinet rather than, erm, lead. Kemi Badenough has just put herself in pole position to become Leader of the Opposition after the General Election. 

Yes. I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt on the simple basis that she's a  black woman herself.   As  political journalists tend to describe such things,  she's definitely  "on manoeuvres".    

[Cade]

 

 

Hmmm.....looking back over the last 14 years, it's clear that the Conservative and Unionist party is actually an extremist organisation and should henceforth be banned.

[Gizmo]

 

21 hours ago, TallPaul said:

Oh dear UK economy returns to growth and exits recession. That will piss off the self-loathers on here.

I've got some magic beans to sell you. Guaranteed a 0.2% yield per annum. You can't lose. 

Maybe you can't afford them though, what with shouldering Scotland's entire tax accrual on your shoulders.

 

20 hours ago, manaliveits105 said:

because of the unions playing politics 

Sounding very much like a minimum wage paying, slave driver. 

 

2 hours ago, il Duce McTarkin said:

 

Any left winger who thinks Baverman wouldn't benefit from a firing squad is a wrong 'un, imo.

[The Real Maroonblood]

8 minutes ago, Gizmo said:

 

I've got some magic beans to sell you. Guaranteed a 0.2% yield per annum. You can't lose. 

Maybe you can't afford them though, what with shouldering Scotland's entire tax accrual on your shoulders.

 

Sounding very much like a minimum wage paying, slave driver. 

 

[manaliveits105]

Are the jkb edgy comrades on Michael Goves list ? 

[TallPaul]

1 hour ago, Cade said:

 

 

Hmmm.....looking back over the last 14 years, it's clear that the Conservative and Unionist party is actually an extremist organisation and should henceforth be banned.

I like number 2 hopefully we can follow Spains example and jail the traitors 😁

[I P Knightley]

1 hour ago, Cade said:

 

 

Hmmm.....looking back over the last 14 years, it's clear that the Conservative and Unionist party is actually an extremist organisation and should henceforth be banned.

The Fokkers have had a real go at delivering on number 2 with their completely unnecessary introduction of photo ID at the polling stations to 'combat' a level of voter fraud that could be counted on one hand. 

[Cade]

11 minutes ago, I P Knightley said:

The Fokkers have had a real go at delivering on number 2 with their completely unnecessary introduction of photo ID at the polling stations to 'combat' a level of voter fraud that could be counted on one hand. 

 

#1 is their main aim.

Brexit removed some of your rights.

Right to protest is being curbed.
Right to free medical care is under threat (dentistry is already pretty much all private now)

Right to asylum...etc etc etc etc

[manaliveits105]

Mr Gove goes on to list some organisations that will be looked at.

These include British National Socialist Movement, JKB Edgy Comrades  and Patriotic Alternative.

He also names the Muslim Association of Britain, as a British association of the Muslim Brotherhood, Cage and Mend as giving "rise to concern for their Islamist orientation and views

 

[Mikey1874]

Tricky 

 

 

[Mikey1874]

A wide range of interesting doners. Though this guy wants revenge.

 

 

[Lone Striker]

2 hours ago, manaliveits105 said:

Mr Gove goes on to list some organisations that will be looked at.

These include British National Socialist Movement, JKB Edgy Comrades  and Patriotic Alternative.

He also names the Muslim Association of Britain, as a British association of the Muslim Brotherhood, Cage and Mend as giving "rise to concern for their Islamist orientation and views

 

 

Any thoughts on who will do the actual "looking at" of these organisations ?      There must be a major Tory donor somewhere whose minimum wage company can lend a hand, surely ?    Just so long as said donor doesn't get caught suggesting that an MP should be shot.   

 

If ever there was a robust case for slashing the actual cost of government, its now.   Instant cut of 50% please, to be put towards extra funding for the NHS.

 

 

[Victorian]

1 hour ago, Mikey1874 said:

A wide range of interesting doners. Though this guy wants revenge.

 

 

 

That Amersi guy is an absolute museum piece shithouse.  

[joondalupjambo]

3 hours ago, Mikey1874 said:

A wide range of interesting doners. Though this guy wants revenge.

 

 

I assume that was for a full English breakfast and not a continental one as it would have been post Brexit?

[I P Knightley]

5 hours ago, Lone Striker said:

 

Any thoughts on who will do the actual "looking at" of these organisations ?      There must be a major Tory donor somewhere whose minimum wage company can lend a hand, surely ?    Just so long as said donor doesn't get caught suggesting that an MP should be shot.   

 

If ever there was a robust case for slashing the actual cost of government, its now.   Instant cut of 50% please, to be put towards extra funding for the NHS.

 

 

That does not appear to be a barrier to getting kickbacks from the Tory party. 

[henrysmithsgloves]

 

[Ulysses]

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/mar/16/conservatives-slam-bonkers-plot-to-topple-rishi-sunak-before-election?CMP=share_btn_url

 

 

[Cade]

Penny "stand up and fight" Mordaunt

 

 A shitey, pig-thick Maggie impersonator who's main claim to fame is holding a sword whilst dressed as the Poundland logo.

[Cade]

The absolute feckin nick of this.

 

[AlimOzturk]

1 minute ago, Cade said:

The absolute feckin nick of this.

 

 

not even trying anymore. 

[AlimOzturk]

Tories will be wiped out in Scotland imo. I think Labour could make inroads  I also think other parties such as the Green Party, Alba, Lib Dem’s will win seats. SNP won’t come near to a majority this time. 

[Lone Striker]

Cameron, May, Johnson, Truss, Sunak.... maybe Mordaunt.    What a parcel of rogues in one form or another - they all owe their time in the limelight to Cameron's terrible decision to save his own skin by  caving  in  to the ERG nutters  demands that he negotiate "concessions" from the EU or else  call a referendum on  EU membership referendum.  From that moment on, he was a hostage to fortune - battered by the EU when he tried to get concessions on the fundamental concept of free right of movement for  EU citizens to move to and work in Britain...... and when that failed, he got battered by his old Bullingdon buddy and his band of brain-dead followers.    It was all downhill from there for the Tory party, but even worse it was downhill for the country.

 

James O'Brien's book about the events is well worth a read.  "How They Broke Britain".   Thatcher would be turning in her grave at the idea that her Tory successors would be the ones to feck the country up on the back of  ignorance and deliberate deceit.

 

 

[XB52]

26 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said:

Tories will be wiped out in Scotland imo. I think Labour could make inroads  I also think other parties such as the Green Party, Alba, Lib Dem’s will win seats. SNP won’t come near to a majority this time. 

Not a hope in hell that Alba win a seat

[SectionDJambo]

10 minutes ago, Lone Striker said:

 

James O'Brien's book about the events is well worth a read.  "How They Broke Britain".   

Quite an eye opener into how this country has been badly manipulated by both elected and unelected individuals.

[i wish jj was my dad]

11 hours ago, SectionDJambo said:

Quite an eye opener into how this country has been badly manipulated by both elected and unelected individuals.

Yip. It needs a wider audience. I'd like to see it serialised on TV for folk that don't read books. 

[AlimOzturk]

14 hours ago, SectionDJambo said:

Quite an eye opener into how this country has been badly manipulated by both elected and unelected individuals.

Can be listened on Spotify audiobooks if you have premium. 

[Psychedelicropcircle]

Threatening to call an election if you try & take my job! 

[Sooperstar]

Eurozone inflation down to 2.6%.

[I P Knightley]

6 hours ago, Psychedelicropcircle said:

Threatening to call an election if you try & take my job! 

I can't see anyone else wanting to lead that lot into a General Election. Penny Mordaunt was getting nudged forward over the weekend but I really don't see her wanting to "Stand up and Fight" in a battle where the tories will be so badly pumped, they'll ditch the leader almost straight away. We're stuck with Sunak's vanity and pig-headedness until he sees fit to scarper. He knows that no one will challenge him. Little squit.

[Victorian]

Say they got another term.  What reason is there to expect fewer than about 3 or 4 leaders over the course of the term?  None of them are interested in public service.  It's all for the pay-offs and spin-offs.  

 

An annual event of a leader,  an exiting leader,  another ex-leader to be protected by the Parliamentary and Diplomatic Protection division,  another leadership contest pantomime,  another list of peerages and honours being doled out,  another cabinet reshuffle,  it goes on.

 

 

[Lone Striker]

31 minutes ago, I P Knightley said:

I can't see anyone else wanting to lead that lot into a General Election. Penny Mordaunt was getting nudged forward over the weekend but I really don't see her wanting to "Stand up and Fight" in a battle where the tories will be so badly pumped, they'll ditch the leader almost straight away. We're stuck with Sunak's vanity and pig-headedness until he sees fit to scarper. He knows that no one will challenge him. Little squit.

Yep. It will be interesting to see how committed Boris will be "helping to support" red wall candidates during the GE campaign.  He won't want to be associated with an impending Tory disaster, so don't be surprised if its a just a couple of quick visits to shake some hands - or maybe even a full scale change of mind.

 

 

Edited March 18 by Lone Striker